Future Interaction Between Roxas and Lea

[Horizon's Knight]

Okay, so we all know that Roxas and Axel were best friends (along with Xion, but that's not what this thread is about). We are also aware of the fact that the Somebodies will remember "their" time as a Nobody. However, despite what might be said or hinted at in fanfiction, a Nobody is not the same person as their Somebody. Therefore, Lea was not friends with Roxas, while Axel was.

Considering that Roxas is one of the people who has to have their hurt mended, it's going to be pretty hard with Lea being around instead of Axel. What's worse is that Roxas might not even acknowledge the difference between the two, or might even force Lea to give Axel back to him. Of course, that's considering that Roxas and Lea don't already view each other as friends. So, this all leads to this question:

Do you think Roxas and Lea will view each other as friends, even though Roxas was actually friends with Axel and not Lea?

 

[MegaWallflower]

I think Roxas and Lea will view each other as friends. A Nobody and his Other may not be exactly the same, but he's probably similar enough, after the development and the promise he remembers and everything. I think Roxas will accept Lea.

 

[Vani]

Well Ven seemed to get along with Lea just fine so yeah, I think Roxas would too.

 

[Hillboy]

Well Ven seemed to get along with Lea just fine so yeah, I think Roxas would too.

Can't argue with that logic :/

 

[MegaWallflower]

Well Ven seemed to get along with Lea just fine so yeah, I think Roxas would too.

In my opinion, Ven acts more like Sora than Roxas... although they are all quite similar.

 

[Cosmic+Amarna]

In my opinion, Ven acts more like Sora than Roxas... although they are all quite similar.

Yeah, and Roxas acts like Ven+Sora, because he is them.

I don't get why anyone is acting like Roxas is coming back...he can't, he's a nobody who met and reconnected with his original self, making him complete again...

Now if Lea ever meets Ven again, well then I'd say yes, they'd be friends or acknowledge something. Lea may even view Sora as a friend because Ven is inside him(and Roxas too, if you wanna go that far).

 

[whisperingspirit]

I don't get why anyone is acting like Roxas is coming back...he can't, he's a nobody who met and reconnected with his original self, making him complete again...

But we did see Xion meeting Sora in the trailer and it could be implied that Roxas could come back as well, since Xion is technically inside Roxas. Of course we won't know for sure until the game comes out.

 

[Sephiroth0812]

Yeah, and Roxas acts like Ven+Sora, because he is them.

I don't get why anyone is acting like Roxas is coming back...he can't, he's a nobody who met and reconnected with his original self, making him complete again...

Nope, Roxas is neither Ven nor Sora, he is his own being. He developed completely from scratch and has several personality differences from Sora and Ven.
Ven and Sora are also only similar, not the same btw.

I would be cautious with statements like "he can't" and portray them as a fact, as Roxas is a highly special being and we don't know how he will be saved.
Then there's of course the newest spoiler from the 10th Anniversary Event as well, which
apparently shows Sora, Riku, Mickey, Donald, Goofy, Aqua, Terra, Ventus and Roxas fighting together at the Keyblade Graveyard.

Now if Lea ever meets Ven again, well then I'd say yes, they'd be friends or acknowledge something. Lea may even view Sora as a friend because Ven is inside him(and Roxas too, if you wanna go that far).

Lea met Ven for only like 10 minutes or so, that's hardly something to build a lasting deep friendship on.
When Lea has Axel's memories he may actually act upon them, but that will be mainly for Roxas then and only secondary in regards to Ven or Sora. The memory scene with Roxas and the promise we are shown in the special trailer apparently occurs right before Lea awakens as a human being, already hinting at the importance it has to him.
As for Roxas accepting Lea instead of Axel...well, he probably won't have a choice on the matter as unlike himself, Axel was a normal nobody who is gone as far as we know, his memories passed on (and accessible) to Lea.

 

[JustSnilloc]

...despite what might be said or hinted at in fanfiction, a Nobody is not the same person as their Somebody.

Except that they are the same person... The only difference is that they've lost their heart- which! has imprinted everything about that person on the body.

The only truth to "A nobody isn't the same as their somebody" is that they have changed, a nobody whose respective heart has stayed submerged in darkness will have reattained every memory they ever had, which means that all their experiences that gave them their personality, that made them who they are, that defined them... All of that is there, the ONLY DIFFERENCE is that they lost their heart- and losing a heart changes people

I would be cautious with statements like "he can't" and portray them as a fact, as Roxas is a highly special being and we don't know how he will be saved.
Then there's of course the newest spoiler from the 10th Anniversary Event as well, which
apparently shows Sora, Riku, Mickey, Donald, Goofy, Aqua, Terra, Ventus and Roxas fighting together at the Keyblade Graveyard.

Wha-? I must have missed something

 

[Hillboy]

Wha-? I must have missed something

It was a trailer that was a projection on a wall, couldn't see it anyway. It was for the 10th anniversary thing they were doing

 

[OblivionPrincess]

Namine did say that Xion and Roxas were among those suffering, maybe there's some way for them to achieve a physical form outside of Sora.

 

[rac7d]

But we did see Xion meeting Sora in the trailer and it could be implied that Roxas could come back as well, since Xion is technically inside Roxas. Of course we won't know for sure until the game comes out.

Technically we saw xion appere before our eyes knowing this game it could have been a illusion or projection of xion we dont know if that was a physical meeting, it takes alot of effort for central and orginal charcter to get together in once place

 

[Luap]

However, despite what might be said or hinted at in fanfiction, a Nobody is not the same person as their Somebody. Therefore, Lea was not friends with Roxas, while Axel was.

I don't agree with this. The only time we've seen for fact that the Somebody and Nobody are totally different people are with XA/Xemnas and Sora/Roxas, and they're nowhere close to a legitimate example. Really, evidence would more point to normal Nobodies and Somebodies being the same person. Especially with the memory thing, and we see that Lea isn't aware that he's Lea until he sees his reflection, he still thought he was Axel.

 

[alexis.anagram]

The problem with arguing this in the case of Axel (not to say anything of other Nobodies) is that it's been heavily implied Axel actually, truly (...probably...) "felt" his connection to Roxas (and Xion...but that's not what this thread is about). For all intents and purposes, he might as well have had a Heart with regards to his friendship with Roxas: it was genuine, not a farce or a play at being whole. This would almost certainly carry over to Lea, and that's the only thing that would matter to Roxas. Aside from the fact that everything about Lea has been shown to be characteristic of Axel and vice versa, minus perhaps some of his more nefarious antics (which I'm sure Roxas wouldn't mind him losing), there's simply nothing else for Roxas to have any investment in.

All of that said, Nobodies are only really separate from their Somebodies in their form of existence. They are technically different "beings," but that doesn't mean they're different as people in terms of their behaviors or personality. The only real difference is that they have no Heart through which to filter those aspects; because they don't experience emotion, they might not recognize why hurting someone is a Bad Thing unlike their Somebody counterparts, etc. Yet, many of the Organization members appear to have deliberately framed their behaviors around their Somebodies. At least, the evidence is overwhelming that, as people, they are not very different from one another. Of the Nobodies whose Somebodies we have encountered, how many are different? Braig/Xigbar is the same. Lea/Axel is the same. Isa/Saix is...well, we don't know much about him, but I would wager a bet that, bar external factors beyond his control, he's mostly the same character, maybe just a bit more hardened or mean as Saix due to a specific objective or experience (or both; this will only be further proven if Isa appears as an antagonist in a future title).

Therefore, unless you're arguing that Roxas would demand Axel be returned based only on his form of existence, it's not really a practical idea. Lea is Axel; same body, same personality, plus an actual Heart. What's there for Roxas to complain about? Axel can finally, truly, love him back and make that marriage proposal we've all been anxiously looking forward to. :')

..Or am I the only one?

 

[Chaser]

Axel will never live again, neither will Roxas. Ventus and Lea will live happily ever after in a gay(happy) little cottage in a woodland area where they have bedbreaking sex before Lea tells Ventus that he is a sparkling vampire.#Nomuracanon.


But fur real real, I can't see Roxas being his own person so the friendship between Lea and Roxas would only just be for proper closure.

 

[alexis.anagram]

Axel will never live again, neither will Roxas. Ventus and Lea will live happily ever after in a gay(happy) little cottage in a woodland area where they have bedbreaking sex before Lea tells Ventus that he is a sparkling vampire.#Nomuracanon.

Actually, what happens is that Sora somehow goes back in time and engages young Lea in sensual, yaoirific time travel porn-sex to the tune of twenty plus pages. #Thisisanactualdoujinshi

Not that I've read it or anything. :x

 

[sora364]

I don't agree with this. The only time we've seen for fact that the Somebody and Nobody are totally different people are with XA/Xemnas and Sora/Roxas, and they're nowhere close to a legitimate example. Really, evidence would more point to normal Nobodies and Somebodies being the same person.

Ugh...do you understand how the process works?

Roxas/Sora and Xemnas/AX are no exception to the rule. They merely retained their sentience as Heartless. That's it. The components of their existence were the only thing that made them "special." Namine is the only "Nobody" that is exempt from the rules.

 

[flurryflames]

Axel/Lea is NOT gay. Stop trying to brain wash people with that. Anyway I hope he doesn't remember him that way Lea could move on in his life. Yes a separate one without being tied to anything of that kind of sort. For once I would to see what Lea's life was with Isa and whoever else that has No real connection to Sora/Roxas, Ven, Namine, Xion, or Sora's other friends. (I said real connection since all of the somebodies, nobodies all knew who Roxas was. So I am going outside of it.)

 

[JustSnilloc]

Ugh...do you understand how the process works?

Roxas/Sora and Xemnas/AX are no exception to the rule. They merely retained their sentience as Heartless. That's it. The components of their existence were the only thing that made them "special." Namine is the only "Nobody" that is exempt from the rules.

Combine this with the "Nobody Theory" in my siggy and you should have a complete understanding of Nobodies TC

 

[Hillboy]

Axel/Lea is NOT gay. Stop trying to brain wash people with that. Anyway I hope he doesn't remember him that way Lea could move on in his life. Yes a separate one without being tied to anything of that kind of sort. For once I would to see what Lea's life was with Isa and whoever else that has No real connection to Sora/Roxas, Ven, Namine, Xion, or Sora's other friends. (I said real connection since all of the somebodies, nobodies all knew who Roxas was. So I am going outside of it.)

I don't think you understand how sarcasm works