Kingdom Hearts 3 Trailer shows Xemnas, Maleficent and More
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- Published on June 12, 2017 @ 01:00 am
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Square Enix have lifted the silence on Kingdom Hearts 3 and delivered an epic trailer that gives fans a good look at Mount Olympus.
The trailer also showcased new shotlocks and limit commands, deepening the battle system that was first introduced in Kingdom Hearts HD 2.8 Final Chapter Prologue earlier this year.
We also got a look at some of the story from the game, as it seems Maleficent and Pete have business with Hades in Olympus. We also saw some more gameplay against the Rock Titan battle, and Sora talking with Xemnas outside of Twilight Town's mansion.
Square Enix released a press release following the reveal of the trailer:
Earlier at the KINGDOM HEARTS Orchestra –World Tour– concert in Los Angeles, SQUARE ENIX® and Disney Interactive dazzled fans with a new KINGDOM HEARTS III gameplay trailer featuring never before seen footage based on Disney’s animated hit, “Hercules,” which celebrates its 20th anniversary this year.
In this action-packed trailer, Sora, Donald Duck and Goofy help Hercules battle various forms of Heartless on Mount Olympus through gorgeous visuals and gameplay. Fans will see Sora in a new form, which allows him to perform special powerful solo and joint attacks on his enemies. A new glimpse into the game’s storyline reveals a reunion with Disney villains Hades, Maleficent and Pete as they discuss the location of a mysterious item while Sora is faced with a dilemma in an effort to bring back an old friend.
Another trailer that will debut a brand new world will be at D23 Expo on July 15th.
More information is expected to flow out of E3 soon so remember to follow Kingdom Hearts Insider on Facebook, Twitter, and Tumblr for the latest updates on Kingdom Hearts Union χ [Cross], Kingdom Hearts 3 and all things Kingdom Hearts!
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I LOVE THIS TRAILER AND THEY SHWOED DISNEY CHARACTERS HOLY FUCK
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Not to be a downer or anything but i really don't like the look of the game,Xemnas and Ansem especially look off to me.
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HADES LOOKS GOOD
MALEFICENT LOOKS GOOD
PETE LOOKS GOOD
GAMEPLAY IS SICK
3 PARTY MEMBERS
KH2 COMBOS
THE MAGIC
THE GRAPHICS
I LOVE IIIIIIIT
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I can feel it. I can feel 2018, it's so polished. Get hype. Give me d23
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This game looks SO FREAKING INCREDIBLE!!! This footage compared to two years ago is absolutely stunning!!! This has to be coming out soon, the work they are doing is phenomenal! SO HYPED!!!
EDIT: AND HADES, my favorite Disney villain of all time, he looks so beautiful! Good lord I'm having a hype attack.
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HOT DAMN.
Release is even closer than we thought I'm thinking. Could they be gearing up for a full marketing push?
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The game looks graphically stunning. The gameplay is so fast paced!
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The characters look great, Hades and Pete in particular look very impressive. Maleficent's lighting isn't great, but her model's good!
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LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, DRY SEASON IS OVER!
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Of course this would be the sort of thing that brings me back to the boards. :P
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[*]Is that quote at the beginning of the trailer Sora's opening quote for this game? And does it seem to anybody else that it ties into KH1's Opening Quote somehow with the talk of dreams?
[*]Why is Sora "diving" into Olympus?
[*]The Kingdom Key is back!!!! I knew the starlight keyblade wasn't replacing it for good!
[*]You can really tell that the "Kingdom Shader" They've been talking about is in effect during the scene between Hades, Pete, & Maleficent, they look like they came straight out of a Disney movie. The Scene with Xemnas though seems to use the default lighting shader that comes with Unreal Engine, so maybe it's still in development. I sure hope it doesn't stay like that, otherwise it's going to look like you're average fangame project.
[*]They better be showing something new off at E3, otherwise they're really going to miss the window of promotion for this game...
[*]Do we have rough translations yet?
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All in all, it looks super cool! I love how Mt. Olympus is turning out! It's super gorgeous!
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HERCULES LOOKS SO GOOD TOO I MEAN HE'S IN THE BACKGROUND BUT BOY
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OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!! I feel Alive!
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Kingdom Key's transformation is Second Form. I noticed that Magnet finish from KH2 is used with it, as well as Sonic Blade.
I am OBSESSING over the weather effects. Fuck, Olympus is going to be one hell of a ride.
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HERCULES LOOKS SO GOOD TOO I MEAN HE'S IN THE BACKGROUND BUT BOY
Its so hard to tell what Party Members are doing lol, but yeah I was super hyped about Herc being a full party member. That and the way Hades looked made me most excited tbh ha.
Looked like KH2 outfit is a drive form now or something? Like Limit Form I'm guessing. I need to rewatch it...and I want translations.
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I FREAKING LOVED THAT TRAILER! The gameplay looks SO smooth and fast paced, and the character models for the Disney characters looks fantastic! Even if it technically isn't an E3 trailer, but I can't see anything else at the expo topping this for me. The fact that we are getting even more footage and information next month just made the whole thing even better! Now i'm even more excited for D23 than I already was!
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UGH that combat is looking ROUGH
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If there wasn't another trailer next month, I would be concerned that they only showed Olympus. But oh man this game is massive. After four years, most of the gameplay we've seen is just from one world. I can't tell if having Disney voice overs done means anything as to the state of the game.
I my guess as to what happened is the plan was always to have this trailer theyve been working on for a long time at d23, but they knew there would be riots and concern if the game didn't show at e3 so they just cut and slapped together a bunch of gameplay from Olympus to tide the fans over for the month.
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UGH that combat is looking ROUGH
I'm not sure we saw the same trailer...
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Looked like KH2 outfit is a drive form now or something? Like Limit Form I'm guessing. I need to rewatch it...and I want translations.
Translations were available at the concert. Like, the font looked just like the game subtitles instead of regular translation shit. Should be available when SENA sends out the PR.
If there wasn't another trailer next month, I would be concerned that they only showed Olympus. But oh man this game is massive. After four years, most of the gameplay we've seen is just from one world. I can't tell if having Disney voice overs done means anything as to the state of the game.
I my guess as to what happened is the plan was always to have this trailer theyve been working on for a long time at d23, but they knew there would be riots and concern if the game didn't show at e3 so they just cut and slapped together a bunch of gameplay from Olympus to tide the fans over for the month.
Lol no, this has been planned for a long time.
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what i got from this:
okay so before sora lands the "attack" commando changes
drives seem to be activated by situation commands
the magnet finisher from kh2 is back, just like many other combos
other than that sora can apparently level his drives - "first form" changes to "second form"
he uses his kh1 moves as well (limit sora stuff)
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GAH I CAN'T WATCH IT BECAUSE OF MY WIFI.
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Why did you use white text, I was waiting for a picture to load.
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Look at my boy Herc finally making it as a party member.
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There were translations when it was shown in the Orchestra.
Basically Maleficent is asking Hades if he found a "Black Box" in the world they're in. Xemnas on the other hand, was talking about there being a way to save Roxas, by having Sora use the power of darkness.
I assume the Black Box is the one that MoM asked Luxu to carry around.
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english trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaHSpUZgW24
Why did you use white text, I was waiting for a picture to load.
Sorry, I copied from FB Messenger and it was weird, but I fixed it
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There were translations when it was shown in the Orchestra.
Basically Maleficent is asking Hades if he found a "Black Box" in the world they're in. Xemnas on the other hand, was talking about there being a way to save Roxas, by having Sora use the power of darkness.
I assume the Black Box is the one that MoM asked Luxu to carry around.
YEAH DO YOU KNOW HOW EXCITED MALEFICENT LOOKING FOR THE BOX MAKES ME!?!?! LIKE YES HOLY SHIT YES MALEFICENT FIND THE BOOK!!! FIND THE BOX!!!
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Y E A H
I still don't know how I feel about the newish art style, but other than that I am hyped beyond fucking belief.
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I AM SO FUCKING GLAD SHE IS ACTIVELY LOOKING FOR THE BOX!!! IM ROOTING FOR YOU, MALEFICENT!!
EVERYTHING LOOKS JUST SO GOOD.
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​WHY DOES MALEFICENT KNOW ABOUT THE BOX
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They need to go back to the drawn portraits..Sora's face in the Ui looks horrible lol.
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They need to go back to the drawn portraits..Sora's face in the Ui looks horrible lol.
?!?!??!?! it looks so much better than in the 2015 E3 trailer, and I actually like it now :D
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This trailer definitely corrected LOADS of small issues from the previous trailers and ever 2.8. From character models to portraits to movement animations, it all looks significantly better, and I thought it wasn't bad before.
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OMG I WAS JUST ABOUT TO GO TO SLEEP WHEN I SAW THAT THIS TRAILER EXISTED. Welp guess I'm not going to bed anymore cause the hype probably won't let me fall asleep
and I work tomorrow morning...
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Fucking aero command looks unbelievably good.
I like the last scene kinda because I hoped that'd be a plot point.
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Really enjoyed the trailer! Olympus is gonna be massive! So many things were going on, so I'll have to rewatch it a bunch of times to soak everything in.
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EVERYTHING ABOUT THIS IS PERFECT AND I LOVE IT. BLESS YOU NOMURA.
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I'm a fan of the Sora/Goofy bromance Wonder Woman style shield fling ground pound Texas two step combo. More of party members interacting directly with Sora throughout gameplay, please.
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I'm so happy with how gigantic Olympus looks. I mean, that's hoping we still haven't seen all of it yet.
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Maleficent's looking for the box.
KH2 style drive form.
Xemnas
Combos
Sora's shield can do the "Ora Ora".
Sora's a freaking beast.
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THIS LOOKS IMPOSSIBLY DOPE. THESE FAST COMBOS, THESE ACTUAL FINISHERS.
this was the EXACT trailer I wanted. many of my fears have been quelled!
HADES LOOKS ESPECIALLY DOPE.
me and Ashton69 react here:
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BEAUTIFUL TRAILER! Did you guys notice no longer a "now in development" BS at the end. Now they're dropping another trailer at D23 next month. You guys I think they may give us the release year in July. I'm so hyped now!
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Translations were available at the concert. Like, the font looked just like the game subtitles instead of regular translation shit. Should be available when SENA sends out the PR.
Lol no, this has been planned for a long time.
I didn't mean literally they threw it together quickly. I mean they planned this as they were making the d23 trailer, but that the d23 trailer is the main trailer and this was just mainly put together as a teaser so fans wouldn't riot about it not being at e3.
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BEAUTIFUL TRAILER! Did you guys notice no longer a "now in development" BS at the end. Now they're dropping another trailer at D23 next month. You guys I think they may give us the release year in July. I'm so hyped now!
Whenever the release shows up I'm thinking it'll be a hard release date. Whether or not they show us a date in July will be telling as to the general time of when the game will come out.
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I can just hear a register noise as Square Enix preps all these new models for KHUX medals.
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​WHY DOES MALEFICENT KNOW ABOUT THE BOX
Maleficent has in-depth knowledge about the Age of Fairytales (either through Master Xehanort or her own research). Why do you think she was aware about The Book of Prophecies to begin with? Plus, she was able to travel back to the Age of Fairy Tales herself: she may have been able to understand what exactly the box is and its importance.
On a more technical note, has anybody noticed the fact that the Seeker of Darkness robes now have the Master of Master's zippers?
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I can just hear a register noise as Square Enix preps all these new models for KHUX medals.
"Sora KH3 everybody is dying of a happy heart attack version"
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I can just hear a register noise as Square Enix preps all these new models for KHUX medals.
And I will prepare my wallet accordingly ^_^
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Another trailer in a month. I expect them to show more of Corona, San Fransokio, along with the new revealed world. My mind can not process that we are actually getting another trailer next month. Only 1 month. Like is this forreal. Is this game'so release closer than we think?
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Whenever the release shows up I'm thinking it'll be a hard release date. Whether or not they show us a date in July will be telling as to the general time of when the game will come out.
It's a DISNEY sponsored event, I think chances are high it's release date.
This game is supposed to have 20 + worlds right. It's supposed to double than KH2 correct? I expect at least 20 + worlds.
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Xemnas: *telling Sora if he will use the power of the dark to bring Roxas back*
Ansem: *leaning against the wall like a cool kid*
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It's a DISNEY sponsored event, I think chances are high it's release date.
This game is supposed to have 20 + worlds right. It's supposed to double than KH2 correct? I expect at least 20 + worlds.
I don't think thats confirmed at all??
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I don't think thats confirmed at all??
Didn't Nomura state it would have twice as many worlds as KH2 and that it's a very big game?
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Didn't Nomura state it would have twice as many worlds as KH2 and that it's a very big game?
Very big, yes, twice as many worlds as kh2, no.
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Very big, yes, twice as many worlds as kh2, no.
with how much content there seems to be in just Olympus, I'd much rather have fewer worlds with more rich and important stories.
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Very big, yes, twice as many worlds as kh2, no.
He said something that this game would have the biggest amount of worlds in the KH series? I could have sworn he said something like that.
KH2 had 11-12 worlds, I see KH3 having maybe 5-6 more then that.
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It could have the same number of worlds at KH2 and still be triple in size judging by these world sizes.
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with how much content there seems to be in just Olympus, I'd much rather have fewer worlds with more rich and important stories.
No thanks. This needs to have the most amount of worlds so far in the series.
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with how much content there seems to be in just Olympus, I'd much rather have fewer worlds with more rich and important stories.
Yeah this is my sentiments exactly as well. Around the same amount as KH2 would still have way more to do in each world presumably.
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It could have the same number of worlds at KH2 and still be triple in size judging by these world sizes.
I feel like this game should have the most worlds in the franchise to this point. KH2 had 11 I believe. So I would think KH3 should have 15-16.
Which is what they said. It's not twice as many worlds it said they have more worlds planned for this game then in KH2. Which would suggest more worlds than in KH2.
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Hades blew my mind. They really striked for perfection on his model.
Pete looks great too. Maleficent looks fine just a little more lightning work and she'll be even better. My only problem with Xemnas is his hair. I feel his face looks finished and his coat is also done just a little more work on the hair for his model. I feel Sora's model looks much better now than it did before. Goofy also looks much better.
I wonder if they are hinting on the weapon Sora is wielding as a upcoming world. If not I really hope it's The Jungle Book. Probably not but I would want that to be true.
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Quality over quantity. I'm okay with there being less if the story feels round and well-done. They can't keep adding the amount of worlds every new title, when would they stop?
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Quality over quantity. I'm okay with there being less if the story feels round and well-done. They can't keep adding the amount of worlds every new title, when would they stop?
The quote said they had more worlds planned for KH3 then in KH2. I imagine that will stick.
I think most gamers wouldn't be alright with their being less worlds in KH3 then in KH2. They always strive to be bigger in the sequels.
I say 14-15 worlds at most.
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I noticed that they also gave Pete a eye color. usually he has the Mickey Mouse eyes but this time he's eyes are coloured blue.
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Y'all reckon Flowchain is that move we saw in the 2015 E3 trailer where Sora just zoomed from Heartless to Heartless?
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Sorry KH2 had 15 worlds. So I imagine 15 worlds at least sounds about right but Nomura said he had more worlds planned for KH3 then KH2 so there's at least 15 worlds with the chance for more. I would say we'll have more in KH3 then in KH2.
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Sorry KH2 had 15 worlds. So I imagine 15 worlds at least sounds about right but Nomura said he had more worlds planned for KH3 then KH2 so there's at least 15 worlds with the chance for more. I would say we'll have more in KH3 then in KH2.
Sure, but no one knows how much will be shown of which worlds. Some might just e really small like Yen Sids tower
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An observation regarding the new forms: 2nd form is accessed through the kingdom key which changes Sora's outfit to a KH2 look alike along with kh2 finishers. Countershield is accessed through the Hercules keyblade, dawning a yellow outfit and a shield weapon game play. Each keyblade unlocks a new outfit recolor and weapon transformation in the form of situational commands a la 0.2 drive forms(that's my theory).
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An observation regarding the new forms: 2nd form is accessed through the kingdom key which changes Sora's outfit to a KH2 look alike along with kh2 finishers. Countershield is accessed through the Hercules keyblade, dawning a yellow outfit and a shield weapon game play. Each keyblade unlocks a new outfit recolor and weapon transformation in the form of situational commands a la 0.2 drive forms(that's my theory).
Where does this put things like the cannon and the chariot we saw in earlier videos? Maybe finishing moves for these forms?
Y'all reckon Flowchain is that move we saw in the 2015 E3 trailer where Sora just zoomed from Heartless to Heartless?
That seems quite likely, yeah. I can't imagine what else it could be ha.
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Sure, but no one knows how much will be shown of which worlds. Some might just e really small like Yen Sids tower
Very true but I imagine we're looking at least at more than KH2 wise and with expansive maps and potential DLC in the future that's a lot of content. Can't wait.
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Odd question, but what is Sora doing in this pic? Is that part of an attack move? A key blade?
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Odd question, but what is Sora doing in this pic? Is that part of an attack move? A key blade?
It's obviously a metal shark.
Sharkhearto confirmed!
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Okay, I've been constantly rewatching the trailer and the situation commands are propping up some big red fucking flags.
You can stack like 5 or 6 of them at the same time. 0.2 had only 3 magic SCs and you could use all of them at once to shred through a bosses health, and this game will probably have as much, if not more spells than KH2.
Just how much shit is relegated to SCs? Magic, Drives, Finishers, Summons?
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I feel like this game should have the most worlds in the franchise to this point. KH2 had 11 I believe. So I would think KH3 should have 15-16.
Which is what they said. It's not twice as many worlds it said they have more worlds planned for this game then in KH2. Which would suggest more worlds than in KH2.
Honestly, I think Kingdom Hearts III will have 13 worlds presented. Dream Drop Distance provided 7 worlds corresponding with the Princess of Heart, I feel that Kingdom Hearts III will have 13 to correspond with the Seekers of Darkness. Some worlds like Mount Olympus and San Fransokyo will be open-sandbox worlds, whilst Mysterious Tower and Twilight Town will be more conventional platforming worlds.
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Okay, I've been constantly rewatching the trailer and the situation commands are propping up some big red diddlying flags.
You can stack like 5 or 6 of them at the same time. 0.2 had only 3 magic SCs and you could use all of them at once to shred through a bosses health, and this game will probably have as much, if not more spells than KH2.
Just how much shit is relegated to SCs? Magic, Drives, Finishers, Summons?
Jesus Christ juggling on a unicycle, what does it take to make you happy? a mini game where you eat puppies?
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And after only 5 pages, this place has become "ONLY POST IF YOU APPRECIATE EVERYTHING"-territory again. This is getting a little old.
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That's quite enough. If people have concerns, they're free to voice them so long as it's not insulting or purposely undermining someone else's thoughts/posts
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Honestly, I think Kingdom Hearts III will have 13 worlds presented. Dream Drop Distance provided 7 worlds corresponding with the Princess of Heart, I feel that Kingdom Hearts III will have 13 to correspond with the Seekers of Darkness. Some worlds like Mount Olympus and San Fransokyo will be open-sandbox worlds, whilst Mysterious Tower and Twilight Town will be more conventional platforming worlds.
No way will it have less worlds then KH2. I do not see that at all. The same level or more but not less.
DDD had that many worlds cause it was on the 3DS, a system that couldn't handle a big amount of worlds. It had nothing to do with the Princesses of Heart. It was also supposed to have another world Treasure Planet but got cut from the game.
I mean I could use that logic and say 13 seekers of darkness and 7 guardians of light = 20 worlds
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Someone make a countdown for D23.
Get your world predictions ready.
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Someone make a countdown for D23.
Get your world predictions ready.
Why do we need a prediction? It's gonna be Frozen.
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Why do we need a prediction? It's gonna be Frozen.
Why would it have to be?
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Could be anything at this point
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Why would it have to be?
Because it's Frozen. I mean...do we really need to question whether it will be included in the game.
I mean they could shock us and reveal Treasure Planet since that's the only world left from that guy. Tangled and BH6 are in, so wonder if 3-3.
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I do agree with Precursor Mar, it seems like you can stack a lot of Situation Commands, and that's not necessarily good balancing if they're gonna be as strong as 0.2's. I feel like 3 should've been the limit.
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So frigging awesome :D
Anyway about that Pandora's box reference, wouldn't this be the perfect world to find it in eh?
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Because it's Frozen. I mean...do we really need to question whether it will be included in the game.
I mean they could shock us and reveal Treasure Planet since that's the only world left from that guy. Tangled and BH6 are in, so wonder if 3-3.
No, we don't. That's exactly why I don't see why they'd need to show it. We know it'll be in.
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Why do we need a prediction? It's gonna be Frozen.
im putting my money on Moana it fits into the theme of kingdom hearts oh to well
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No, we don't. That's exactly why I don't see why they'd need to show it. We know it'll be in.
True but Frozen being confirmed even though obvious creates huge press and interest because it's Frozen.
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im putting my money on Moana it fits into the theme of kingdom hearts oh to well
It'd be good, I just wonder if it isn't too new :/
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OP Updated with information from the press release!
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im putting my money on Moana it fits into the theme of kingdom hearts oh to well
Moana wasn't a big box office success for Disney. While I could see it in the game I'm not sure if it'll be promoted at a big event like D23.
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Does that keyblade transformation signify anything at D23 announcement?
Or is it just any keyblade transformation
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Moana wasn't a big box office success for Disney.
???
It grossed $642.6 million and was the 12th most profitable release of 2016, which is impressive considering it came out late November in the US and even later elsewhere. Big Hero 6 made $657.8 million at the Box Office worldwide and it's in KH3.
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Okay, I've been constantly rewatching the trailer and the situation commands are propping up some big red diddlying flags.
You can stack like 5 or 6 of them at the same time. 0.2 had only 3 magic SCs and you could use all of them at once to shred through a bosses health, and this game will probably have as much, if not more spells than KH2.
Just how much shit is relegated to SCs? Magic, Drives, Finishers, Summons?
Personally I am in love with how the game's combat looks, but this is a very good point. Unless the unlock conditions for them have changed, it could be something that is too easy to spam. It definitely would have been smarter to keep it locked down to three at a time. Maybe it's something that can be altered via the config menu? I feel like that would be an easy fix.
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Does that keyblade transformation signify anything at D23 announcement?
Or is it just any keyblade transformation
A drill from Atlantis maybe?
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A drill from Atlantis maybe?
That's my guess. If the weapon is supposed to be a hint, then I'm putting my money on Atlantis.
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Does that keyblade transformation signify anything at D23 announcement?
Or is it just any keyblade transformation
It's probably tied to the keyblade that comes from the new world that's going to be revealed at D23. It seems like an odd thing to put there otherwise. It's been driving me crazy trying to figure out what it might connect to.
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Atlantis would be great in the game
I hope so
At first I was scared it resembled Thor's hammer, in design.
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Moana wasn't a big box office success for Disney. While I could see it in the game I'm not sure if it'll be promoted at a big event like D23.
While im not using this as a complete 100 percent accurate representation of anything and i cold be completely wrong, and no nothing what so ever, seeing as im going off only NA stuff, as well as it could be coincidence, but if you play kingdom hearts union cross and take into consideration that the medals are "borrowed power" from the future or whatever thing they use to describe it, i dont remember the exact words to it, but if thats the case, The Characters are borrowing the power from Moana meaning that there is a chance that the level could appear in the game, The only other two levels i can think of that dont Appear in kingdom hearts but have medals are Zootopia with Nick And Judie and the Jungle book Characters, And the jungle book was set to appear in Birth By sleep before it was scrapped
I mean theirs a chance Zootopia could appear in teh game to no doubt, esp since Donald and goofy wouldn't have to change there appearence and they could turn Sora into His original Kingdom Hearts 1 look if they wanted to, that would be pretty funny, This isnt solid proof mind you just speculation from Observation
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Which weapon are we talking about? That is a new weapon?
The medals in KH UX were there to promote the movies when they were released. In Moana's case at least.
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Speaking of KHUX, do y'all think we will get a medal to commemorate this trailer?
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GAHHHHH
Pete and Maleficent talking with Hades about a box, probably meaning that they big role in the plot. Man I am so glad. Olympus seems freaking huge, the weather effects oh my god, combat looks really nice, and some plot in the end. Really liking what I am seeing!
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What is this new Keyblade transformation people are talking about?
I can only see the Hercules key and KK
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Well... Am I the only one that expected much more?
Gameplay-wise looks promising, I can't barely see the floatiness if we compare it to BBS or 0.2, However the graphics... The backgrounds are nice, same with the visual effects but Maleficient looks EXTREMELY pale, and Xemnas face looks so unnatural, and the eyes make him look like he just went to the dark side in Star Wars.
About the rest, well, they only showed Olympus, I hope we don't see ANYTHING else about this world (specially from that boss pic that we got months ago) or they will spoil the whole world.
Also I hope they fix those camera angles (1:45). In any case we're getting a second trailer, didn't expect that to be honest, so I'm pretty excited. (Wishing to see more about that damn black box!)
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I am glad that they are having these KH1 one vibes at the beginning of the trailer with the text.
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Some people think that the voice for Hades in the trailer is actually James Woods speaking Japanese.
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I wonder if Hades thinks they're talking about Pandora's Box as opposed to Luxu's. Pandora was in the TV show so there's a canon history to Hercules
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so are Ansem and Xemnas dating? it was pretty sweet of Ansem to accompany Xemnas on his trip to go bully Sora
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Okay can someone get a good shot of that Drive Form that looks like Sora's KH2 outfit?
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My problem with SCs, based on my experience with 0.2, is that they're unreliable.
They way you got them didn't seem to make sense. There were so many times I would throw out 3 Firagas and 1 Blizzaga, and for some reason get Blizzaja (apparently it's based on the way it hits enemies?).
But I can sort of deal with that.
The real problem is Drives. They cannot work the same way. If you want to keep any semblance of strategy, you can't do it. That shit needs to be as straightforward as possible. If a situation calls for Guard Form, I should have access to it (at a cost of course). Keep it in the player's hands.
I can see the benefit of it eliminating Drive spam (which would also remove the need for Anti-Form), but the trade-off isn't worth it imo.
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Well THAT was something pleasant to wake up to
ugh this looks so gorgeous. Yay! Actual story in the Disney worlds! Xemnas! The villains playing off each other!
and again those details. Man I would've killed to see a fully lush Pride Lands world D:
Looks amazing! My bet is we have a good shot of getting the final (for now) release date next month!
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A friend was over when the trailer dropped so I had to contain the nerdom. OMG GUYS ITS HYPE TIME! It all looks so crisp. The models clearly have improved even more. The combat looks even more fun than 0.2. The MUSIC is on point! We got to see new Disney characters and Ahhhh!
The fact we are already being told the next time we'll see the game being only a month away is very telling. I've been feeling it in my soul that we'd be getting the market hype train amping up soon and it's looking that way. We have D23 next month, TGS in September, and anything else that will follow till Jump Festa possibly. Not getting too far ahead of myself but it's time. It is so time.
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So unique Keyblade Transformations were scrapped for forms?
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Btw, gotta love that Naruto vibe in Kingdom hearts.
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Btw, gotta love that Naruto vibe in Kingdom hearts.
>Comparing it to Naruto and not Jojo
Lord Kek is not pleased.
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Sora throwing Goofy at those enemies truly was The Perfect Cast
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Sora literally summoned the Fists of Jonathan Joestar or Star Platinum. He's a Jojo now.
Also guys, this is the first KH3 trailer to not have Now in Development.
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Hahaha! That would be great and funny! I like your idea
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Oh, didn't someone suggest the HUD shows four characters so you know who can be swapped in and how many HP they have left? Because apparently they're all receiving damage here so it seems like they're all present.
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I think that we can dive in every world if we jump from a high platform. You can see a platform in the sky while he dives.
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Oh, didn't someone suggest the HUD shows four characters so you know who can be swapped in and how many HP they have left? Because apparently they're all receiving damage here so it seems like they're all present.
Donald, Goofy, and Hercules are all on that battlefield with Sora.
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Donald, Goofy, and Hercules are all on that battlefield with Sora.
Ah, good, that's what I hoped for.
I wonder if that completely gets rid of the concept of switching out party members of if there'll just be more in some worlds even.
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Someone said: there's no "now in development"
At the start of the UK trailer, when Sora dives, there is the now in development sentence.
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I mean theirs a chance Zootopia could appear in teh game to no doubt, esp since Donald and goofy wouldn't have to change there appearence and they could turn Sora into His original Kingdom Hearts 1 look if they wanted to, that would be pretty funny, This isnt solid proof mind you just speculation from Observation
Donald & Goofy can stroll through a hundred human worlds with no issue but Sora's gotta change for the animal worlds? That's hardly fair!
Plus there's no birds in Zootopia, Donald would still stick out.
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Hrm pretty rad trailer looking it over...
Dang it Xemnas STOP MESSING WITH SORA! Serious for a guy who wants the 7 lights to gather you sure as heck do a poor job showing that when you come in and step in the way of every attempt at doing so. Just let Sora bring Roxas back without all this unnecessary evil manipulation. If I didn't know better I would say Xehanort is torn between having the seven lights gather and being secretly afraid of having to face retribution from a ton of powerful heroes who desire little more than to see him fail and pay for his transgressions. Also glad to see Xemnas and Ansem are traveling buddies and will be appearing in worlds like they did in DDD. Xemnas is such a great character and KH2's greatest crime was how little we got of him.
The luxu box is just gonna be "Maleficent searches for a castle" plot isn't it? She's going to go to the different worlds seeking Luxu's box and along the way mess with Sora because she hates his guts.
Gameplay looks super radical loving...well everything and it's neat that KH2 is being given its own form. I wonder if DDD Sora gets his own form where he summons dream eaters that be pretty cool...speaking of summons they STILL haven't shown that element of gameplay yet. 3 active party members with HUD included = yes finally.
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A the end of the trailer we see the message that there will be a new trailer at the D23. There is also a pic of Sora in the back with something. Can someone tell me what it is?[video]https://youtu.be/0PQivxd36l4[/video]
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So I feel like starting from D23 onwards KH3 is gonna be getting consistent focus from now till it's release. We've got so much ahead. TGS in September, Jump Festa in Dec, all the way to it's release hopefully next year.
Of course the 15 + world reveals should be interesting. I hope we get a balance of old and new worlds.
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2015
2017
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Man the difference good lighting and actual backgrounds makes...
Oh thinking that last scene I think I get why Ansem is also just standing there and what they mean by "use the darkness". Xemnas and Ansem are basically there to make a point. That one way (and currently the only known way) to bring Roxas back is to give into the darkness and gain a relationship like Ansem and Xemnas had. That is Sora become a human heartless and his body will be reborn as Roxas. Similar to the previous relationship Sora and Roxas had but without Kairi joining in this time and without Sora just becoming a shadow. And of course Xehanort would LOVE for Sora to become like him. He'd get a Sora teeming with darkness he could hijack and Roxas his ideal vessel would be ripe for the picking as well.
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that quote at the beging sounded something walt disney world say plus does anybosy else know if if tjust kh3 would be at d23 or other games with be there like star wars
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Oh man! I was so not expecting this. The game is looking great. One thing I can't help but notice that during some points of the trailer, such as about 45 seconds in, there are actually three party members. Really liking that, as it seems we may finally be getting a bigger party for the worlds.
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Man the graphics look amazing, just yesterday I was a bit worried about how well they can improve from the weird lighting from the tower scene in 0.2 but I'm not worried anymore. Sora looks good now as does everyone else. It's certainly a lot to get used to though, compared to the usual KH style! I guess the only thing that's kind of eh about the combat for me is that Sora does a lot of horizontal spinning which reminds me of DDD and flowmotion and all that which I'm not a fan of, but the air combos look really good and glad to see some KH2 elements brought back. The combat sure looks flashy, which also kind of bothered me at first, but since it's just showcasing all the new stuff, and not how a basic combat flow would be going that's fine too.
Looking good, yay for Roxas, though I'm not really sure why Ansem is there lol. Probably just two of the 13 chilling together, bullying Sora since it seemed to work in DDD, why not try it again? I have a feeling the plot will be going even more crazy than in DDD... xD Nice that Maleficent is back in a bigger role apparently too, I hope she'll be all evil again. And that we don't have to fight boring Pete fights again! He can go be invincible somewhere else.
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The darkness? Sora? Oh no.
But this trailer is but so beautiful! I love the new additions, and the Rock Titan battle looks so incredibly epic. ;A;
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The darkness? Sora? Oh no.
But this trailer is but so beautiful! I love the new additions, and the Rock Titan battle looks so incredibly epic. ;A;
They reeeally need to keep their grabby darkness hands away from Sora. Although... I do love anti-form and the brief heartless time you get in KH1 so I wouldn't hate something cool like that. As long as he's safe. And good and comfy and fine.
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I just think the "Sora gives in to the darkness" train should kinda leave for good. I loved shadow-Sora and anti-form is cool but I don't want any 3D-style-"Igottasaveeveryonebyfuckingmyselfup"-bullshit anymore.
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I just think the "Sora gives in to the darkness" train should kinda leave for good. I loved shadow-Sora and anti-form is cool but I don't want any 3D-style-"Igottasaveeveryonebydiddlyingmyselfup"-bullshit anymore.
Agreed.
But with Sora turning to the darkness, makes you wonder if Riku or Mickey has to come into play with that, seeing Riku has experience with keeping from being "swallowed" by darkness like with CoM. Riku needed some help from Mickey at certain points like "Ansem" when he tried to trap Riku but then Mickey shows up and stops him.
Maybe it will be the same with Sora.
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Gotta say, it says a lot when a trailer's got me excited for one of the most overused worlds in the franchise.
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I liked what I saw, except for paled Maleficent and fanmade Xemnas. I imagine they're still perfecting their shading with Unreal Engine 4 and the Kingdom Shader. But I'll remain cautiously optimistic. Though the gameplay is looking like the series has hit a climax. I don't think they can top this anymore than what they have done.
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okay do we know from the kh insider staff going to d23 in july?
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Xemnas looked terrifying to me. Probably the eyes and the hair. Not sure if they were going for that or not. Probably still a work in progress.
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Gotta say, it says a lot when a trailer's got me excited for one of the most overused worlds in the franchise.
Oh yeah.... Coliseum means cups, cups mean... Hades Cup :l I swear if there's another 50 round lvl99 cup I will scream.
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Oh yeah.... Coliseum means cups, cups mean... Hades Cup :l I swear if there's another 50 round lvl99 cup I will scream.
If its like KH1 I will scream with joy lol. But yeah if its like the gimmicky KH2 one, no thanks :P I just want to fight hard enemies...not collect orbs.
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The Disney characters look great, thankfully. Maleficent in particular looks fantastic. It’s going to be hard to get used to Sora looking like this the whole game though…
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Everyone reacting to the battle system and mechanics, meanwhile my eyes, ears, and brain zero'd in on dat plot!
ROXAS MY BADASS BABY YOU'RE COMING BACK!!! ;w; ;w; ;w;
ROXAS LEA AND XION NEED THEIR TRAGIC TRIO REUNION, PLZ NOMURA! THEY SUFFERED ENOUGH! ;w;
*Sings Sanctuary between gross sobs*
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If its like KH1 I will scream with joy lol. But yeah if its like the gimmicky KH2 one, no thanks :P I just want to fight hard enemies...not collect orbs.
Yes, this exactly. I don't like having to spend forever farming orbs with Stitch just to be like 100 points short at the end and having to do the whole things again how about no. I'd rather just focus on the fighting.
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Great trailer and even better news that there's another one to come next month.
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YEEEEEEAAAAAAH BOI
I don't really have much to say 'cause pretty much everyone's already said what's on my mind. KH3 is real, and looking at this trailer, it's gonna be good too.
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I just think the "Sora gives in to the darkness" train should kinda leave for good. I loved shadow-Sora and anti-form is cool but I don't want any 3D-style-"Igottasaveeveryonebydiddlyingmyselfup"-bullshit anymore.
I completely disagree. The lad has to have a first hand experience of darkness. Him turning into a Heartless in Kingdom Hearts 1 doesn't really count because he released his heart in order to set Kairi's heart free. Riku had an arc conquering the darkness, and now he sees light and darkness as two sides of the same coin. Sora's your pure light hero (not in the technical, but in the character sense), I want to see his experience and understanding of darkness throughout Kingdom Hearts III.
Plus, it's an excuse to have Cecil from Final Fantasy IV be featured in the game. He's a knight of darkness, he can teach Sora the ways of controlling it.
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I do love the environments. I might sound silly saying this, but the room Sora is fighting in starting at 1:28 gave me some good chills. I don't know, maybe it's just the contrast from the bright outside to the darker illumination inside is just so good? The feel of him battling Heartless in a room like that just seems surreal and awesome. Hard to explain, silly I know.
The gameplay looks awesome. I had trouble in some parts to figure out what was even happening on the screen, but I suppose that feeling won't be as bad when I play it myself versus watching someone else playing it. Looking at it as a whole, it looks like there will be all sorts of ways to go about battling. I can't wait!
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Im so happy i kept my expectations low. I can't wait to hear how Hades survived being dumped in the pit of lost souls XD.
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That Limit-esque team attack with Goofy didn't drain Sora's MP, which most likely means they're also SCs.
Hmmmm
Also, how can Sora access Second Form when he's still in his KH2 clothes?
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Speaking of outfits, why was he in his KH3 one at the beginning in Olympus? Wasn't he supposed to get it after he completed the world?
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Im so happy i kept my expectations low. I can't wait to hear how Hades survived being dumped in the pit of lost souls XD.
Well he was already out hosting tournaments in KH2. Don't think they'll bother explaining that.
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WOAH WOAH WOAH WANS'T EXPECTING THIS.
BUT HOLY SHEEEEEETTTTT IT LOOKS SO FREAKING AWESOME!!!!!
HYPE!!!!!!
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That Limit-esque team attack with Goofy didn't drain Sora's MP, which most likely means they're also SCs.
Hmmmm
Also, how can Sora access Second Form when he's still in his KH2 clothes?
Honestly, my guess is second world returns. I think it'll follow the Kingdom Hearts II plot in which the first world visit is Disney-centric whilst the second world visit is more in line with the original Kingdom Hearts story.
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Sorry KH2 had 15 worlds. So I imagine 15 worlds at least sounds about right but Nomura said he had more worlds planned for KH3 then KH2 so there's at least 15 worlds with the chance for more. I would say we'll have more in KH3 then in KH2.
Agreed that's what Nomura said that he wanted more Worlds in KH3 than with KH2 so we still got time for the Remainder of 2017 for more New Worlds to be announced next month it was said that we'll see a New World and a Trailer at D23 Expo so yeah.
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I completely disagree. The lad has to have a first hand experience of darkness. Him turning into a Heartless in Kingdom Hearts 1 doesn't really count because he released his heart in order to set Kairi's heart free. Riku had an arc conquering the darkness, and now he sees light and darkness as two sides of the same coin. Sora's your pure light hero (not in the technical, but in the character sense), I want to see his experience and understanding of darkness throughout Kingdom Hearts III.
Plus, it's an excuse to have Cecil from Final Fantasy IV be featured in the game. He's a knight of darkness, he can teach Sora the ways of controlling it.
I mean whatever floats your boat.
I'd rather see Sora as a character who, if any, struggles with the bad parts of light and realizes (yet again) that light and dark dont equal good and bad.
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This is the type of trailer that we needed. It really emphasizes the Disney side of things, making it seem important and engages the fans to want to know more (what are those black boxes?). The visuals, the fighting, everything looked great. And the tiny hint of the storyline was great - Sora confronting the darkness on a personal level. Didn't give away anything, yet hyped me up so much. I cannot wait for the new trailer.
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OH MY GLOB I LOVED THIS TRAILER! ;~;
Okay, Fudge, breathe.
Firstly, I love how it starts off with the phrase "Don't assume your dreams are just fantasy. If you can imagine a world, believe in it...and dive in." Good advice and Kingdom Hearts-y.
Mount Olympus looks fantastic. The Heartless have that "balloony" shine to them, so they're probably not finished yet. Sora's Keyblade animation look so much better than it did previously, and as much as I have a dislike for frequently flashy attacks, I wholly enjoyed Sora going complete Jojo on the Heartless, and his team attack with Goofy was not only satisfying but hilarious. "My friends are my power!" *throws Goofy at the Heartless*
We didn't get the best look at Herc, but I don't think I could be happier with Pete, Maleficent, and Hades. Speaking of Hades, he has his smoke! I don't recall him ever having it in previous games and I'm so happy to see it here! And a thing we wanted to happen appears to be happening: Disney worlds being relevant. Not only are Disney villains interacting with each other again, but Maleficent has purpose in KH3, unlike in KH2 where she was just kinda there for no reason. Looking for the Master of Master's secret box might be a seemingly simple motivation, but it's a good one, and having her ask Hades about a "black box" leads me to believe he's thinking of Pandora's Box. See how easy it is to tie the Disney worlds with KH's story?!
Weather effects. Awesome. Rock Titan. Awesome.
The scene at Twilight Town looks like it's the standard Unreal engine shading. This time around, SDG actually good here, like the FMVs, but my precious Xemnas looks kinda off, though it appears like he's beauty is suffering from the shading and it's not an issue with the model itself. I'm laughing so hard at Ansem in this scene. He's just standing there with his arms crossed, chilling in the background like a cool guy.
I like how Xemnas is messing with Sora. He's telling Sora that the only why Roxas could be brought back is if Sora becomes a human Heartless so his body can be reborn as Roxas, just like what Ansem and Xemnas are. And Xemnas isn't wrong, as it's the only known way (aside from the Key to Return Hearts, which we know jack squat about) and it puts Sora through a dilemma: deny Roxas his own existence? Or become like the bad guys and probably lose the use of the Keyblade? (Since he'd be a Heartless.)
The trailer no longer says "Now in development". I'd say you guys have no idea how happy I am to not see that, but you probably do.
New world and trailer next month! If that silhouette is hinting at what the next world is, the only thing that comes to mind is Atlantis: The Lost Empire.
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I really love the lighting/colors of the clouds on Mount Olympus.
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So are Zeus and the other Gods just hiding as the heartless invaded their realm? You'd think they'd be able to handle them without SDG, lol.
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I've never gotten the feeling that Sora hates darkness or feels it's all evil, I mean he has no problem with Riku being a darkness user? I would be fine with Sora being like hmm wonder if I could use darkness too and learning some new powers, maybe being a bit worried how it'll go since he hasn't used them before and all that, but I don't really want any more of that being taken by darkness thing. DDD was already dumb enough. Sora learning to embrace the darkness in him in a positive way would be different and fine for me, but we've already seen that falling to darkness thing quite enough. In everything. Everywhere. So. Many. Times.
And also, the negative sides to light is something I'd like to see more of, we already got Eraqus but a different perspective would be nice.
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Honestly, my guess is second world returns. I think it'll follow the Kingdom Hearts II plot in which the first world visit is Disney-centric whilst the second world visit is more in line with the original Kingdom Hearts story.
No I mean, he gets Second Form from his new clothes, right? So how come he can access it while still in his old clothes?
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Does this mean we will have 3 party members in some worlds? Or was Hercules there like how he was in KH2 (with no life bar)?
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Does this mean we will have 3 party members in some worlds? Or was Hercules there like how he was in KH2 (with no life bar)?
We will get 3, possibly even 4. That's yet to be seen, but definitely more than 2.
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We will get 3, possibly even 4. That's yet to be seen, but definitely more than 2.
I hope that doesn't make the worlds too easy.
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Hmm so next Month is D23 Expo and so we are going to be Expecting a New World and a New Trailer hmm this makes me wonder...
My Expectations for the New Trailer next month
More Gameplay of Kingdom of Corona(Rapunzel in Action, New Areas)
San Fransokyo Footage(Gameplay and Cutscenes, Interaction with the Team, Battle with Dark Baymax)
Maybe footage of a New World being in it
My New World Predictions
Either Atlantis or Frozen
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I hope that doesn't make the worlds too easy.
If they die as fast as in KH2 on higher difficulties... xD
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Sora always does everything by himself anyway,another party member isn't gonna change anything.
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I think Situation Commands will be what make this game easy
Sora always does everything by himself anyway,another party member isn't gonna change anything.
I mean, it does help the mood. Makes me feel a lot more involved with the world when everyone's running with me and not suddenly a character pops up in a cutscene.
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Man, I should've recorded my reaction to this trailer... lol, I actually had a reaction this time. XD I've been talking to Cinder and another online friend about these weird visions and dreams of other worlds, and telling them they couldn't be real... then Nomu-nomu first thing says, " don't assume your dreams are just fantasy." XD That really freaked me out, but I'm sure people are just normally this way, lol... nothing special. ^_^
Anyways, really nice gameplay, looking forward to it. :3
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Sora still doesn't look great though.
Also, what is that new music track?
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For the sake of comparison:
Aerial Finish
Magnet Burst
Not a fan of Magnet Burst, but Aerial Finish is looking pretty good.
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@DefiantHeart: The gameplay is certainly awesome! And you never know, sometimes a person can predict what will happen in upcoming games and trailers. :D
Can anyone please explain to me why the black box is really important? Is it related to the MoM in 0.2?
As for myself, it's looking really polished. I didn't expect to see Maleficent or Pete at all. We're getting a lot more out of this game than I originally thought.
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Can anyone please explain to me why the black box is really important? Is it related to the MoM in 0.2?
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Also, what is that new music track?
It's from 0.2, "Wave of Darkness", the theme of the final boss.
Can I just say how I'm not a fan of having so many things tied to one button, or rather, Situation Commands? The game has so many mechanics as it is, and having most of them tied to the same button (with seemingly no restrictions) is a little ehhh… I feel like the game could benefit from having less mechanics. Osaka also isn't known for good game balancing, so that's also a little bit troubling.
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Blurry pic, ECH.
So yeah, Second Form is basically Limit Form 2.0. Sora's KH3 outfit is in the colors of his KH2 outfit, and as evidenced by the trailer, he has old abilities in this form.
It's also probably connected to the Kingdom Key, since it's, well, obviously in the Second Form logo.
I wonder if there will be a KH1 version of this form so we can have Limit Form 1.0[hehe]
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I actually hope we can choose how many party members to take with, I personally prefer to just have D&G with me and only ever used the world specific Disney characters if I really needed their limit. D&G don't really count as "Disney characters" to me in the same way as all the others since they're their own characters in these games, but I don't really want the others in at all. As little Disney as possible for me, please.
Also, having many party members means we should have good control over them, I definitely want to be able to turn off their abilities and control what they do, it's annoying when the AI decides to screw up your plans and get in the way. The more members are out, the more likely it is that one of them does something I don't want them to.
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A thought: maybe we see Sora wearing different clothes because the trailer might depict more than one visit to Olympus (remember that in KH2 each world had a new story every time you were prompted to visit it).
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Everything looks good as such and they made such a huge improvement but as for the combat system goes, i don't really like the BBS system as much. I am hoping that you gain abilities just like in KH2FM from defeating bosses like finishing leap, horizontal slash or even gaining them through leveling drive forms like combo plus. If thats in game then i wouldn't mind having the BBS combat system if they would add variations to the attack than instead of just spamming the button X and then pressing triangle. Other than that, The plot is perfect af, the background/scenery is perfect af, portraits and certain models could see some use but they are ok (but i know they will get even more improved). If they can capitalizes on the combat in this game then this will be the best way to end this saga on a high note!
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I actually hope we can choose how many party members to take with, I personally prefer to just have D&G with me and only ever used the world specific Disney characters if I really needed their limit. D&G don't really count as "Disney characters" to me in the same way as all the others since they're their own characters in these games, but I don't really want the others in at all. As little Disney as possible for me, please.
Also, having many party members means we should have good control over them, I definitely want to be able to turn off their abilities and control what they do, it's annoying when the AI decides to screw up your plans and get in the way. The more members are out, the more likely it is that one of them does something I don't want them to.
I agree about being able to have a "settings" function in the same vein as KH2. It was good, you could even turn off all their abilites so they just stand around and do nothing, set things up as "frequently, never, rarely, etc." It was really good.
I do want some more Disney characters in my party, but I guess that's everyone else's taste. :D Though I do have to admit I also always stick with Goofy and Donald
A thought: maybe we see Sora wearing different clothes because the trailer might depict more than one visit to Olympus (remember that in KH2 each world had a new story every time you were prompted to visit it).
I hope this isn't truuueee
Everything looks good as such and they made such a huge improvement but as for the combat system goes, i don't really like the BBS system as much. I am hoping that you gain abilities just like in KH2FM from defeating bosses like finishing leap, horizontal slash or even gaining them through leveling drive forms like combo plus. If thats in game then i wouldn't mind having the BBS combat system if they would add variations to the attack than instead of just spamming the button X and then pressing triangle. Other than that, The plot is perfect af, the background/scenery is perfect af, portraits and certain models could see some use but they are ok (but i know they will get even more improved). If they can capitalizes on the combat in this game then this will be the best way to end this saga on a high note!
Um, this game isn't using BBS' combat system, which is the Comand Deck. The game uses the Command Menu
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A thought: maybe we see Sora wearing different clothes because the trailer might depict more than one visit to Olympus (remember that in KH2 each world had a new story every time you were prompted to visit it).
Oh I hope not. If we get second visits, I'm afraid most of them will be just for filler like kh2.
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I, too, would prefer having control over how many party members you have with you. At least as soon as it's more than two, simply because they can fuck up too much. Also every character is a potential waste of Donald's fucking mp so he gets even more reasons not to heal me. Don't want, don't need.
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It's from 0.2, "Wave of Darkness", the theme of the final boss.
Can I just say how I'm not a fan of having so many things tied to one button, or rather, Situation Commands? The game has so many mechanics as it is, and having most of them tied to the same button (with seemingly no restrictions) is a little ehhh… I feel like the game could benefit from having less mechanics. Osaka also isn't known for good game balancing, so that's also a little bit troubling.
Interesting. I haven't played that yet so thanks for not spoiling. Figured I was first going to hear that track at the concert in 2 weeks, guess it's a moot point now haha.
Have to say, it doesn't sound very final boss-y to me, though.
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Was a nice suprise to find out SE released a new trailer. I really love how the disney characters look especially Hades. TBH Xemnas looks a bit weird but that may be due to lighting. Seeing the limits and other gameplay elements were awesome as well. I noticed how Sora changed to KH2 colors for one of his drive forms. Reminds me of how limit form give KH1 colors. What's interesting is he uses some KH1 moves with that form in the traier. Seeing how kh2 sora and KH3 sora appear in Mt. Olympus I guess we can assume Sora gets his new outfit in Mt. Olympus.
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Agreed, KH1 did it well - only one visit that covers the whole story, and then later on if you go back you can access some new places and do new sidequests etc. when you have more abilities. Even some events could maybe unlock later, but I would much prefer the story would just happen at once, except for the original worlds of course which always have multiple visits. KH2 just made it drag out too much and made the story too all over the place.
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Interesting. I haven't played that yet so thanks for not spoiling. Figured I was first going to hear that track at the concert in 2 weeks, guess it's a moot point now haha.
Have to say, it doesn't sound very final boss-y to me, though.
Sure thing!
That's because it's actually toned down a lot! The in-game theme has even a choir at the second phase of the fight, and the drums are much louder. It's really awesome when you play! :D
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The beginning quote and the dive makes me think we will be visiting the dream realm once more. Let's just visit all the realms!
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I'm okay with some worlds having second visits if it has story reasons. Since the disney worlds seem to be more tied to the story again, it could make sense. But forcing second visits for all worlds is just ehhh.
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Sure thing!
That's because it's actually toned down a lot! The in-game theme has even a choir at the second phase of the fight, and the drums are much louder. It's really awesome when you play! :D
So is the trailer version the one from the concert?
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I mean I feel like multiple world visits should be a given by now that's been KH standard since CoM. In CoM you visit the worlds twice, once as Sora and once as Riku. In KH2 you visit every world twice some mandatory, some optional, and some way more than twice. In Days you visit every world many times. In BBS you visit every world 3 times once as each character. In Coded you technically never revisit a world however they get the same effect when you go through shortened replicas of each world getting a recap on Data Riku's side of those worlds. In DDD you visit every world twice once as Sora and once as Riku.
I would be shocked beyond all reason if KH3 didn't have us visiting every world at least twice...and probably splitting up the plot with Maleficent and Pete the first time and then an original story the next time that is more plot relevant.
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Sorry not BBS system but the gameplay it is very similar to it.
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So is the trailer version the one from the concert?
Exactly.
I doubt we'll be visiting the Realm of Dreams. I think the quote will be voiced over by HJO and will be Sora's quote before the Opening, similar to "I have these weird thoughts lately... like, is any of this for real or not?"
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They'll find a way to implement that opening sentence somehow, but I hope it's not tied to actually going back to dream world.
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Exactly.
I doubt we'll be visiting the Realm of Dreams. I think the quote will be voiced over by HJO and will be Sora's quote before the Opening, similar to "I have these weird thoughts lately... like, is any of this for real or not?"
Doesn't Sora have to obtain the power to awake sleeping hearts? That's the reason he went to the dream world as his mark of mastery.
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I am wondering if Sora will give into the darkness just to bring back Roxas and possibly Xion. It would interesting to see Xehanort have a Heartless that he can't control and possibly have his cohorts turn on him for whatever reason. People can be unpredictable and so is light and darkness, that would be a good payoff, I guess.
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I am wondering if Sora will give into the darkness just to bring back Roxas and possibly Xion. It would interesting to see Xehanort have a Heartless that he can't control and possibly have his cohorts turn on him for whatever reason. People can be unpredictable and so is light and darkness, that would be a good payoff, I guess.
But how would that work?
Sure, Sora could just stab himself with some keyblade again like a crazy boy and then hope Kairi's magic mumbo jumbo still works, but ehhhh, I don't think so.
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Exactly.
I doubt we'll be visiting the Realm of Dreams. I think the quote will be voiced over by HJO and will be Sora's quote before the Opening, similar to "I have these weird thoughts lately... like, is any of this for real or not?"
The Realm of Dreams? Hmm What is the Realm of Dreams?
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The Realm of Dreams? Hmm What is the Realm of Dreams?
Oops. Realm of Sleep* I guess.
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Can anyone please explain to me why the black box is really important? Is it related to the MoM in 0.2?
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Now I know how Pandora feels because now I want to know what is in that box.
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Trailer looks great. Though I still feel a bit weird looking at the new models, I guess that's just coz I'm not used to them yet. Aside from that they are stunning. Really suprised at how good Pete came out though.
The combat system has a lot of moves stuffed in 1 place. I don't mind I guess, but yeah, it would suck if this would hinder our control over Sora's moves. But I'm excellent at button mashing, so who knows.
Olympus looks great and all, very big, very nice. But it worries me that it's the only world we see so far. We've seen smaller bits of other worlds, but this the only one they've extensively shown. I don't really care about how many worlds there are tbh, I just want a statisfying ending for this Saga. But this does make me wonder, are they really that far in development? I mean, 2018? Hell yeah I would be in. But isn't it a bit too soon to get our hopes up? For all we know they only finished 1 world and the rest has yet to be finished.
Also no TAV, much rip ;_;
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Now I know how Pandora feels because now I want to know what is in that box.
INB4 it turns out exactly like Pandora's box, all the way down to the hope at the bottom (and guess whose gonna use that :P)
Overall, the trailer has been a rather interesting one.
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Trailer looks great. Though I still feel a bit weird looking at the new models, I guess that's just coz I'm not used to them yet. Aside from that they are stunning. Really suprised at how good Pete came out though.
The combat system has a lot of moves stuffed in 1 place. I don't mind I guess, but yeah, it would suck if this would hinder our control over Sora's moves. But I'm excellent at button mashing, so who knows.
Olympus looks great and all, very big, very nice. But it worries me that it's the only world we see so far. We've seen smaller bits of other worlds, but this the only one they've extensively shown. I don't really care about how many worlds there are tbh, I just want a statisfying ending for this Saga. But this does make me wonder, are they really that far in development? I mean, 2018? Hell yeah I would be in. But isn't it a bit too soon to get our hopes up? For all we know they only finished 1 world and the rest has yet to be finished.
Also no TAV, much rip ;_;
fyi this was form a famtisu article Nomura says that he has already edited the trailer of the D23, by now provisional, it will take longer than the concert
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quick shoutout to all the people who posted comparison pics. they are super helpful thanks fam
edit: shoutout to gay hades
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Trailer looks great. Though I still feel a bit weird looking at the new models, I guess that's just coz I'm not used to them yet. Aside from that they are stunning. Really suprised at how good Pete came out though.
The combat system has a lot of moves stuffed in 1 place. I don't mind I guess, but yeah, it would suck if this would hinder our control over Sora's moves. But I'm excellent at button mashing, so who knows.
Olympus looks great and all, very big, very nice. But it worries me that it's the only world we see so far. We've seen smaller bits of other worlds, but this the only one they've extensively shown. I don't really care about how many worlds there are tbh, I just want a statisfying ending for this Saga. But this does make me wonder, are they really that far in development? I mean, 2018? Hell yeah I would be in. But isn't it a bit too soon to get our hopes up? For all we know they only finished 1 world and the rest has yet to be finished.
Also no TAV, much rip ;_;
I find it amazing that they're mostly showcasing one (primarily old) world instead of spoiling all the other stuff that's gonna be in. SE has a habit of spoiling way too much and way too early.
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I find it amazing that they're mostly showcasing one (primarily old) world instead of spoiling all the other stuff that's gonna be in. SE has a habit of spoiling way too much and way too early.
Clearly, Disney is doing additional supervision for this game. It shows because the showings are at the Orchestra event and D23, two events sponsored and funded by Disney. It's a stark contrast to 2.8 which was promoted entirely by Square Enix themselves at E3.
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Someone else pointed out there was no attraction flow in this trailer even though IIRC every titan battle they've shown in other trailers has used it. It might not mean anything but I'm gonna be on the lookout now to see if it pops up again or not.
I wouldn't mind visiting the worlds again as long as the story is actually fleshed out both times. With KH2 I felt like they took one world's worth of storyilne and split it up into two parts, with one or both halves of the visit feeling way too short.
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The more footage we see of it, the more intriguing Twilight Town is to me. I'm interested to see what new areas they add. I'm also interested to see what's been going on there since the happenings of KH2. The main reason all of this is so interesting to me is the mansion. Up until this trailer, I had believed we were done visiting the mansion, as previous footage shows the hole in the wall the originally led to the woods, and thereby the mansion, was boarded up. So now that we're confirmed to be able to visit the mansion again, I'm wondering why the wall is boarded up, and where the new path to the mansion is.
I'm also pretty confused by the people saying Maleficent is too pale. She's supposed to be pale, that's one of her main characteristics. I think she looks perfect, and I'm so excited to see what she's up to looking for the Master of Master's box.
All in all, this trailer is great, and I'm really excited to see the D23 trailer. I'm hoping for Atlantis - and a release year.
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not really we dont how many world they finsihed they could 5 or 10 worlds for all we know and keep those wprld a scret until they ready to reveled plus dont forget if they can fishisih cerntain amount by 2018 i ceratin we see some cut worlds as well if they cant make the deadline
fyi this was form a famtisu article Nomura says that he has already edited the trailer of the D23, by now provisional, it will take longer than the concert
I never said I knew. Just looking at it from the other side of the coin.
I find it amazing that they're mostly showcasing one (primarily old) world instead of spoiling all the other stuff that's gonna be in. SE has a habit of spoiling way too much and way too early.
I don't know anything about habits, but the trailers did ruin Back Cover. Well in that case I don't mind, but they could show case atleast a bit more right? But eh, let's see what D23 has to offer.
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Wonder when they'll show the world corresponding with the Keyblade used with power form since it wasn't shown in this trailer.
I'm still pretty optimistic that Keyblade/form is linked with Wreck it Ralph.
Y'know it being about Power,Ralph being about strength,color scheme focusing on red,Ralph wearing red,Felix hammer,Sora's hammer type weapon.
That's just me though.
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Guys. There's so much in one world. I actually can't wait for what's next.
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This trailer gave me life! Everything was so super hype worthy, and I'm so excited for the future of KHIII and its marketing now:D :D :D :D :D :D :D
I don't want to say things that everyone else has already said, though (or that I even have on my Tumblr), so I'll try to keep this post short for now.
1. The Disney characters look A+++ now, and I'm completely on board with this new engine, finally. ^_^'
2. I hadn't even considered that last image could be hinting at an Atlantis world, but if it is I'll be as happy as a clam. Eep!
3. I wonder how Sora giving into the darkness some (if he actually does it, which he probably won't) could effect his and Kairi's relationship. She told him not to change, after all. And even at the previous concert, she was saying: "
[FONT="]The journey might be hard but[/FONT]
[FONT="]Please stay as the cheerful and bright Sora I know. [/FONT]
[FONT="]Because your smile, will save many hearts." [/FONT]
Hmm... Could this be foreshadowing some tension between Sora and Kairi, maybe?
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Is the famitsu interview being discussed anywhere yet?
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Is the famitsu interview being discussed anywhere yet?
There's a famitsu interview? XD
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Here:
https://www.famitsu.com/news/201706/12135107.html
It's seems they are patching in a theater mode for KH1FM and new cutscenes for the 358/2 Days movie.
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Here:
https://www.famitsu.com/news/201706/12135107.html
It's seems they are patching in a theater mode for KH1FM and new cutscenes for the 358/2 Days movie.
Sweet. It's about damn time we can watch KH1's cutscene's in full HD glory without playing the game. As for Days, please add battle scenes.
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Here:
https://www.famitsu.com/news/201706/12135107.html
It's seems they are patching in a theater mode for KH1FM and new cutscenes for the 358/2 Days movie.
I doubt it'll be fighting scenes, I think those scenes will be important for KH3 and either lay out new plot points or retcon some stuff. Why would they add battle sequences this late when they could've done it back when the game released?
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I doubt it'll be fighting scenes, I think those scenes will be important for KH3 and either lay out new plot points or retcon some stuff. Why would they add battle sequences this late when they could've done it back when the game released?
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There are theories flying around suggesting that the reason we are yet to see Summons is because they might very well be Dream Eaters.
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There are theories flying around suggesting that the reason we are yet to see Summons is because they might very well be Dream Eaters.
That would be interesting. I just want regular old Disney summons back. It would be nice to have some Final Fantasy ones this time as well.
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There are theories flying around suggesting that the reason we are yet to see Summons is because they might very well be Dream Eaters.
I'd prefer classic Disney summons again like in KH1 and KH2. If we do get a dream eater summon I'm hoping it's limited to only Meow Wow
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Some neat stuff to be sure.
That Xemnas-scene gave me so many DDD-deja-vus though and I wonder if Sora has learned anything from those former run-ins during his journey through the Realm of Sleep.
The Norts never give sound advice for any altruistic reasons so if our spiky-haired hero has truly learnt anything he won't take the stuff they say seriously.
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We might not have seen anything indicating summons yet because Sora wouldn't have earned them. Most of the gameplay we've seen, especially the recent gameplay, is likely from very early on in the game when he might not have access to a summon.
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3. I wonder how Sora giving into the darkness some (if he actually does it, which he probably won't) could effect his and Kairi's relationship. She told him not to change, after all. And even at the previous concert, she was saying: "
[FONT='inherit']The journey might be hard but[/FONT]
[FONT='inherit']Please stay as the cheerful and bright Sora I know. [/FONT]
[FONT='inherit']Because your smile, will save many hearts." [/FONT]
Hmm... Could this be foreshadowing some tension between Sora and Kairi, maybe?^ I'm hoping this will mean it'll flesh Kairi out a lot more as a character, since she's only had some screen time in the previous major titles. Especially some time between Sora and Kairi would be a good thing to explore, considering it'd make her a bit more involved or relevant to the story. I suppose we'll have to wait and see if anything like this happens in the game.
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We might not have seen anything indicating summons yet because Sora wouldn't have earned them. Most of the gameplay we've seen, especially the recent gameplay, is likely from very early on in the game when he might not have access to a summon.
I hope we don't have access to -za spells early on :x
I am seeing alot of different people on the internet assuming that all of the abilities shown will be given to us at the start. God I hope not. Also I am still not convinced that Hercules is even the first world. Yea it is the teams goal to get to that point but that doesn't mean they will have full control of where they're going. They can easily accidentally go to the Tangled world first or something which would give us more time before becoming overpowered. When have they ever actually purposefully gone to the right disney world. The gummi ship always crashes or something pulls them to different worlds.
Also for the people who think Sora being in his KH2 outfit for part of the world indicates it being the first world, LOOK AT HIS KEYBLADE. We have seen him using 3 different keyblades within that one world so far, so if anything that makes me think there is a world BEFORE this one to obtain that star keyblade. In short Olympus won't be the first visit.
I am seeing alot of different people on the internet assuming that all of the abilities shown will be given to us at the start. God I hope not. Also I am still not convinced that Hercules is even the first world. Yea it is the teams goal to get to that point but that doesn't mean they will have full control of where they're going. They can easily accidentally go to the Tangled world first or something which would give us more time before becoming overpowered. When have they ever actually purposefully gone to the right disney world. The gummi ship always crashes or something pulls them to different worlds.
Also for the people who think Sora being in his KH2 outfit for part of the world indicates it being the first world, LOOK AT HIS KEYBLADE. We have seen him using 3 different keyblades within that one world so far, so if anything that makes me think there is a world BEFORE this one to obtain that star keyblade. In short Olympus won't be the first visit.
Hasn't nomura said it's the first world? What's most likely from the trailer is they have endgame abilities turned on just to demonstrate the gameplay.
I am seeing alot of different people on the internet assuming that all of the abilities shown will be given to us at the start. God I hope not. Also I am still not convinced that Hercules is even the first world. Yea it is the teams goal to get to that point but that doesn't mean they will have full control of where they're going. They can easily accidentally go to the Tangled world first or something which would give us more time before becoming overpowered. When have they ever actually purposefully gone to the right disney world. The gummi ship always crashes or something pulls them to different worlds.
Also for the people who think Sora being in his KH2 outfit for part of the world indicates it being the first world, LOOK AT HIS KEYBLADE. We have seen him using 3 different keyblades within that one world so far, so if anything that makes me think there is a world BEFORE this one to obtain that star keyblade. In short Olympus won't be the first visit.
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I hope we don't have access to -za spells early on :x
I think all that presentation featured in the trailer won't be available from the get-go. I think the Sora in that trailer has progressed a lot and they decided to showcase the evolution of the gameplay in that particular work without spoiling the other ones.
I just hope that critical mode level 1 is viable!
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I think all that presentation featured in the trailer won't be available from the get-go. I think the Sora in that trailer has progressed a lot and they decided to showcase the evolution of the gameplay in that particular work without spoiling the other ones.
His health is rather high as well lol. I realize Aqua's was in 0.2 as well but I don't anticipate them doing the same for this game. And yeah he has his KH3 outfit, so I feel they went back at least or something.
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I am seeing alot of different people on the internet assuming that all of the abilities shown will be given to us at the start. God I hope not. Also I am still not convinced that Hercules is even the first world. Yea it is the teams goal to get to that point but that doesn't mean they will have full control of where they're going. They can easily accidentally go to the Tangled world first or something which would give us more time before becoming overpowered. When have they ever actually purposefully gone to the right disney world. The gummi ship always crashes or something pulls them to different worlds. [/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Tahoma, Calibri, Geneva, sans-serif]Also for the people who think Sora being in his KH2 outfit for part of the world indicates it being the first world, LOOK AT HIS KEYBLADE. We have seen him using 3 different keyblades within that one world so far, so if anything that makes me think there is a world BEFORE this one to obtain that star keyblade. In short Olympus won't be the first visit.
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Tahoma, Calibri, Geneva, sans-serif]I mean they fact that its narratively implied to be the first world, and then he has his KH2 outfit in most footage of the world we have seen so far, the Rock Titan boss being fully in his KH2 outfit kind of seals it imo, that its the first world for Sora. It may not be the tutorial world if someone else is playable but yeah. Also the one Keyblade is from that world so I don't see how him having it really matters ha. I don't know when you get that Starseeker knock off, but I assume its early as well...it looks like its from Yen Sid lol.[/FONT]
So are we going to get a translated English version soon?
i felt nothing watching this trailer
So are we going to get a translated English version soon?
there's already an english version
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaHSpUZgW24
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I think all that presentation featured in the trailer won't be available from the get-go. I think the Sora in that trailer has progressed a lot and they decided to showcase the evolution of the gameplay in that particular work without spoiling the other ones.
Yeah, but the user I was quoting said summons aren't an option because it was early world stuff, but that doesn't make sense since high level spells and shotlocks are available.
His health is rather high as well lol. I realize Aqua's was in 0.2 as well but I don't anticipate them doing the same for this game. And yeah he has his KH3 outfit, so I feel they went back at least or something.
Aqua was level 50 as well lol.
So are we going to get a translated English version soon?
Very first post has an English translated trailer.
Should have been more specific. I meant a english dubbed version like the one back from 2015
Should have been more specific. I meant a english dubbed version like the one back from 2015
IMO that's not going to happen any time soon. They could have just recorded for this trailer if Hades wasn't in it, as I believe it'd be a bit of a waste of money to have James come in to voice a few lines for a trailer that can't be used in game if it changes.
I am hoping a lot of the situation commands are in our abilities and we have to equip them with ability points. I think that would help balance out the 6 stack of commands. Who knows, maybe the Sora here has maxed AP so they can show off everything at once.
Aqua in 0.2 didn't have abilities we could look at, I figured that was just because it is a short game, but what if they are actually going with something different and we won't really get to choose abilities o_O
i guess nomura was at today concert as well and he said he would be d23 in july and said he'll be providing "final information" there
He was at the concert, and that was said, but my understand is they might have meant "new" rather than anything final. Who knows though.
He was at the concert, and that was said, but my understand is they might have meant "new" rather than anything final. Who knows though.
So are the translations given on the trailer going to be exactly what's said in the English version? Something tells me that they're giving us the corresponding English lines from those scenes, as opposed to directly translating what's being said word-for word. Unless I'm completely off on that lol
I feel like new and final are very different words and meanings to be mistranslated, but what do I know. I know crazy mistranslations have happened from him in the past
Hiiii, I was there and he had a translator going as he was talking, I think he meant that the final bit of information for american events (this year) as KH3 still has a lot of press to come.
I feel like the opening quote will deal with the intro video, which leads to the tutorial world (Realm of Dreams) where Sora plays with the dream eaters. After that we're launched straight into what we saw in 0.2.
What I find most interesting is that:
Sora is trying to bring back Roxas, and with that probably Xion. And channeling darkness is the only way to do it. So, Roxas is going to act as a goal for Sora.
And Maleficent and Pete know about Luxu's black box. I wonder what they need it for...
Hiiii, I was there and he had a translator going as he was talking, I think he meant that the final bit of information for american events (this year) as KH3 still has a lot of press to come.
Would make sense, there's not any other US events this year other than psx.
What I find most interesting is that:
Sora is trying to bring back Roxas, and with that probably Xion. And channeling darkness is the only way to do it. So, Roxas is going to act as a goal for Sora.
And Maleficent and Pete know about Luxu's black box. I wonder what they need it for...
xemnas is talking out of his ass let's be real
Starting to hope that raining sequence with the Rock titan fight isn't just for that specific part.
I'll love to have dynamic weather effects in the worlds this time.
xemnas is talking out of his ass let's be real
Lol, of course he is.
But let's be real, if Sora is still his naive DDD-self he won't even notice that Xemnas is just trying to manipulate him.
Hopefully Donald, Goofy and Jiminy can talk some sense into him this time if he's indeed tempted to fall for Xemnas' tricks.
Ansem SoD did try the very same thing in regards to Riku:
Riku: Except...it's not over. I can still save Sora.
(Ansem's orange eyes glint)
Ansem: So you understand what to do. Set the darkness in you free, and you
can rescue your friend.
If you can't tempt one with the promise of power and strength by itself, try it with the prospect of saving someone you care about, one of the oldest tricks in the book for a manipulator.
So after the fan-boy shock and an analysis from Cynical, I'm glad to see how they're implementing the new Drive Form, making them into Situation Commands rather than what KH2 had. This way, we don't have as much clutter with the new Shotlock command Focus Gauge.
Dunno, back in KH II Saix said Axel was trying to turn Sora into a Heartless, and Axel admitted he was trying to see Roxas.
Maybe Darkness IS a way to set him free.
[FONT=arial]I'm so excited , finally a new Trailer and the Graphics are so good[/FONT]
Cynical
bleugh
| we don't have as much clutter with the new Shotlock command Focus Gauge |
i mean, they could've just added another bar on top of the mp bar and itd work fine. we've had worse.
bleugh
i mean, they could've just added another bar on top of the mp bar and itd work fine. we've had worse.
1. I know, I know, but he does make good points sometimes (like how Second Form is most likely just KH and KH2 combos and powers like how Limit Form was in KH2FM).
2. Personally, I wouldn't have liked that at all. Too much clutter on a screen is never a good thing. Plus, it makes the Situation Commands that much more interesting to utilize (given there were like 3 of them all on top of each other in the trailer...clutter).
Also, about the new Drive Forms so far, what do you guys think? Are they just solely going to be based on the Keyblade you're currently wielding? We've only ever seen Guard Form with the new Olympus Keyblade Shield.
PS I've been doing some reading on Greek Mythology, and MAN Zeus was very rapey. I mean, look it up; at a certain point it's not disturbing anymore, it's just...wow.
PPS @Dandelion Shouldn't your Avatar pic be "to the right, to the right"?
1. I know, I know, but he does make good points sometimes (like how Second Form is most likely just KH and KH2 combos and powers like how Limit Form was in KH2FM).
2. Personally, I wouldn't have liked that at all. Too much clutter on a screen is never a good thing. Plus, it makes the Situation Commands that much more interesting to utilize (given there were like 3 of them all on top of each other in the trailer...clutter).
I feel like that's just too many things that you activate through Situation Commands, but meh
I'm hoping Riku told Sora about the whole "Ah, Roxas, now there was a worthy candidate." line from Young Xehanort. If Riku didn't, then Sora giving way to darkness will play into Xehanort's hands easily. Sora will out out of commission and Roxas will be ripe for plucking.
I feel like that's just too many things that you activate through Situation Commands, but meh
I agree -referencing back to my previous "clutter" statement-.
Lol, of course he is.
But let's be real, if Sora is still his naive DDD-self he won't even notice that Xemnas is just trying to manipulate him.
Hopefully Donald, Goofy and Jiminy can talk some sense into him this time if he's indeed tempted to fall for Xemnas' tricks.
At least this time around the manipulation is more believable. From what the characters know (and really, from what we know) Sora becoming a Heartless so Roxas can use the body is the only guaranteed way. There's the "Key to Return Hearts", but we don't actually know what it does. It could be a device DiZ made that specifically extracts the hearts in Sora, but that's still no good for Roxas and Xion if there's no body for the hearts to go to.
While it may be true that Roxas might only be able to return via Sora losing himself to darkness, it's been shown before that both he and Roxas can exist at the same time. If they re-use their previous method, however, then we might have the problem of 358/2 Days Roxas draining Sora's power.
Also, I re-examined the trailer, apparently right at the very beginning we can see 3 party member gauges: Hercules (separate and above the regular members) then Donald and Goofy. Personally, I'd like for there to be a party of 4 at one time. It's reminiscent of a regular JRPG, and it just seems appropriate to keep them all together so that they can interact with one another (not really in gameplay).
Also, from what I can see, it seems we obtain our Drive Forms BEFORE we get our new clothes. In addition, the spell finisher names have changed since 2.8. We've got Blizzaza, Firaza, and Thundaza (instead of the suffix -ja).
I'm also glad that our pics change when we fight. We go from happy to determined once we enter battle.
Lol, of course he is.
But let's be real, if Sora is still his naive DDD-self he won't even notice that Xemnas is just trying to manipulate him.
Hopefully Donald, Goofy and Jiminy can talk some sense into him this time if he's indeed tempted to fall for Xemnas' tricks.
Ansem SoD did try the very same thing in regards to Riku:
If you can't tempt one with the promise of power and strength by itself, try it with the prospect of saving someone you care about, one of the oldest tricks in the book for a manipulator.
Never mind being his 3D self; if Sora learned anything from KH2, it should be that everything Xemnas has ever said was bullshit, and that he is the last person you should trust for any reliable information about Roxas; considering A) he manipulated Roxas' memories to the point where everything he knew was a lie, and B) EVERYTHING HE HAS EVER SAID WAS BULLSHIT!
Never mind being his 3D self; if Sora learned anything from KH2, it should be that everything Xemnas has ever said was bullshit, and that he is the last person you should trust for any reliable information about Roxas; considering A) he manipulated Roxas' memories to the point where everything he knew was a lie, and B) EVERYTHING HE HAS EVER SAID WAS BULLSHIT!
Mmm, yes, bullshit, quite right
[video=youtube;3PT7hRAF36Y]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3PT7hRAF36Y[/video]
Dunno, back in KH II Saix said Axel was trying to turn Sora into a Heartless, and Axel admitted he was trying to see Roxas.
Maybe Darkness IS a way to set him free.
I mean probably.
But it seems pretty obvious there are more than that one and I hope Sora wont fall for it.
PPS @Dandelion Shouldn't your Avatar pic be "to the right, to the right"?
I'm not going to ruin a perfectly good Beyoncé lyric to specify "to my right but your left"
I mean here is the thing about Xemnas he never has actually lied, at least not directly. Every word Xemnas has said is the truth the most lying he is ever done is by lies of omission. However lies of omission aren't really true lies, it just means no one asked Xemnas the right questions. It's what makes Xemnas such an insidious and potent manipulator, he deceives by telling the truth in very deliberately phrased ways.
Like when he said "I can not feel sorrow" listen closely to the delivery, the slight awkward way of spacing. He's not saying he can't feel sorrow he's actually say "I can choose to not feel sorrow". Likewise in that scene where he talks about using the darkness to bring Roxas back that's not a lie, Ansem and Xemnas standing there are living proof of that. If Sora were to embrace the darkness, walk the same path Xehanort did and become an actual human heartless like Ansem his body would be reborn as Roxas. Allowing both Sora and Roxas to exist and without Namine's memory interference this time they really could co-exist with little issue.
And if Sora ever gets desperate enough it's not impossible that he might fall back into that as a final option.
Am I the only one who didn't immediately think that Xemnas was referring to Sora turning into a Heartless when he mentioned "calling upon the darkness?"
I mean, Sora WAS pretty gullible in DDD but I don't think he's THAT stupid. Roxas was born out of some rather unusual circumstances too, so even if Sora did lose his heart, it's pretty likely the Nobody would turn out like it usually would: with Sora's memories and identity, not Roxas'. Plus I'm pretty sure Sora feels a bit obliged to save a couple other people as well as help prevent the end of the universe before throwing his life away (again) like that.
For whatever reason, my first thought was just using darkness in some sort of way to bring people back. Forbidden magic, that sort of thing? Though I guess using darkness to slice open a heart in order to extract its contents is also possible... if not insanely risky and potentially fatal. :I
Then again, we don't have much context to this scene. Who knows if Xemnas is trying to push Sora to mess with darkness, possibly trying to discourage it (since you need 7 light and all), or just decided to show up and be a dick because that's what villains do.
Don't think it's easy to tell in the trailer but did they finally fix that running sliding animation.That part with Sora running in the Rock titan area seemed fairly normal.
We haven't seen him speed up so the issue could still be there.
I'm just here to post "AHHHHHHHHHHHH" two days later
anybody seen dan seto tweet today he said we going to like the news that going come out of d23 if that i what i think it means i dont want to be put expextion on yet but gus oh my god
anybody seen dan seto tweet today he said we going to like the news that going come out of d23 if that i what i think it means i dont want to be put expextion on yet but gus oh my god
[strike]Mission Mode for KH3 pls.[/strike]
[strike]Mission Mode for KH3 pls.[/strike]
With multiple playable characters? Yes pls.
anybody seen dan seto tweet today he said we going to like the news that going come out of d23 if that i what i think it means i dont want to be put expextion on yet but gus oh my god
That's actually fairly similar to what the Famitsu reporter said at the end of their article here, apparently they were able to ask Nomura about the contents of the D23 reveal and from what I understood, reacted with "Seriously!!!!???? That's crazy! Yes, this will be a godly game (literally: ã¯ã„ã€ç¥žã‚²ãƒ¼æ±ºå®š, I have no clue if they were exaggerating or being ironic or not)", so I guess we've got something to look forward to.
Gotta wait for translations first, though.
That's actually fairly similar to what the famitsu reporter said at the end of their article here, apparently they were able to ask Nomura about the contents of the D23 reveal and from what I understood, reacted with "Seriously!!!!???? That's crazy! Yes, this will be a godly game (literally: ã¯ã„ã€ç¥žã‚²ãƒ¼æ±ºå®š, I have no clue if they were exaggerating or being ironic or not)", so I guess we've got something to look forward to.
Oh man sounds really good, can't wait. It would be amazing to have some multiplayer features, some sort of co-op missions pleeease I'd love the heck out of it, especially if it's more than just 2 players, imagine if we could do Ux style party missions and raid bosses and that would be so cool. Days mission mode but so much better. I'm not a fan of pvp at all but I'd take that too, anything that gives us tons of characters and a multiplayer thingy. One can dream.
So Donald and Goofy aren't getting new clothes then? I'm sure the scene with SDG and the Xehanort duo takes place at a later point in the game.
With multiple playable characters? Yes pls.
I didn't know I wanted this until now. Mission mode with playable Kairi. Yes please.
So Donald and Goofy aren't getting new clothes then? I'm sure the scene with SDG and the Xehanort duo takes place at a later point in the game.
I feel like Donald and Goofy are stuck in these clothes.
So Donald and Goofy aren't getting new clothes then? I'm sure the scene with SDG and the Xehanort duo takes place at a later point in the game.
I was actually under the impression that this was towards the beginning, to be honest. Not trying to claim Twilight Town will be the starting world, but I actually think it might be considering it was the first showcased world for KH3 way back, it has enough merit and story exploration to be a starting point, and it would (imo) feel like a much better intro into the story than just landing in some random Disney world first. But that's just my 2 cents.
I was actually under the impression that this was towards the beginning, to be honest. Not trying to claim Twilight Town will be the starting world, but I actually think it might be considering it was the first showcased world for KH3 way back, it has enough merit and story exploration to be a starting point, and it would (imo) feel like a much better intro into the story than just landing in some random Disney world first. But that's just my 2 cents.
Considering that 0.2's last scene, 2.9, leads directly into KH3 and Sora's heading to Olympus Coliseum specifically to get his power back it seems preeeetty likely Olympus is the first world/tutorial world.
I suspect that Sora will have a moment near the end of the world where he regains that power, similar to how Hercules did at the end of the movie, and that will be when he levels up and gets his new clothes and takes on the assault on Mount Olympus
olympus coliseum is pretty much 100% guaranteed to be the first world?
nomura said kh3 starts off right away with sora in a place and that you'd find out how he got there because of 0.2
0.2 then had 2.9 showing them heading to olympus and why.
Yes for multiplayer stuff pls!!
Considering that 0.2's last scene, 2.9, leads directly into KH3 and Sora's heading to Olympus Coliseum specifically to get his power back it seems preeeetty likely Olympus is the first world/tutorial world.
olympus coliseum is pretty much 100% guaranteed to be the first world?
nomura said kh3 starts off right away with sora in a place and that you'd find out how he got there because of 0.2
0.2 then had 2.9 showing them heading to olympus and why.
I know what 0.2 showed off at the end and what has been stated, but I'm still not 100% convinced Olympus is the very first starting world. It very well could be and has more pointing towards the fact, and it very well may be, but I'm just saying that I still believe we may end up in a different world first before heading to Olympus.
It's interesting though, because a lot of the fighting they show in this trailer seems to have him in his newer clothes, but when Sora is fighting the Rock Titan he is still in his KH2 outfit. Perhaps while he is in the process of climbing Mount Oympus he is still in his KH2 garb, but changes once he reaches the top of the mountain? The Rock Titan could be the final boss for the world, which could happen right before he reaches the top, and then once he does that he can do tournaments and stuff there whenever they're happening, as was the case in KH1 and KH2.
I know what 0.2 showed off at the end and what has been stated, but I'm still not 100% convinced Olympus is the very first starting world. It very well could be and has more pointing towards the fact, and it very well may be, but I'm just saying that I still believe we may end up in a different world first before heading to Olympus.
But if Word of God and 2.8 already confirmed that Olympus is the first world, what reason would you have to doubt it?
Dunno, back in KH II Saix said Axel was trying to turn Sora into a Heartless, and Axel admitted he was trying to see Roxas.
Maybe Darkness IS a way to set him free.
I never actually questioned that the things Xemnas says there actually are a possible way?
We know that is one possibility, but no matter how you turn it around it is the worst possibility and one that will in the end only benefit the norts.
Riku already proved us that people can be saved without relying on Darkness by figuratively giving Ansem SoD the middle-finger in DDD when he tried to goad him into it yet again.
The main thing I pointed out is how blatantly obvious Xemnas' manipulation attempt is there and that I am looking forward to see if Sora really "matured" and learned from his past experiences enough to not fall into yet another nort-scheme again.
If he keeps falling for Xehanort's tricks he's no better than, err no, scratch that, he's actually worse than Terra in BBS cause while Terra for the longest time didn't know Xehanort is a foul apple, Sora should by now have plenty enough experience to know not to trust anything coming from Xehanort/Xemnas/Ansem.
SE only remembers Jiminy in the handheld titles.
At least this time around the manipulation is more believable. From what the characters know (and really, from what we know) Sora becoming a Heartless so Roxas can use the body is the only guaranteed way. There's the "Key to Return Hearts", but we don't actually know what it does. It could be a device DiZ made that specifically extracts the hearts in Sora, but that's still no good for Roxas and Xion if there's no body for the hearts to go to.
There's still hope that this may change, lol, not to mention I'm looking forward to how Jiminy looks in the new engine.
Don't you forget Ansem the Wise's data? Yen Sid even mentions the data and that Chip & Dale are currently analyzing it to Sora in the last scenes of 0.2.
This comes on top of the proposed "Key to return Hearts" and if other incidents during the KH series should have taught us and the characters including Sora anything it is that there are more than one way to do most things and that one proposed by the norts always has a catch that plays into their latest scheme.
While it may be true that Roxas might only be able to return via Sora losing himself to darkness, it's been shown before that both he and Roxas can exist at the same time. If they re-use their previous method, however, then we might have the problem of 358/2 Days Roxas draining Sora's power.
It is the only known "sure-fire"-way and even that is not completely "sure-fire" at all since it was a highly special situation in which Roxas was created due to at least three factors that aren't in the usual "succumbing to darkness and creating a Heartless"-procedure:
1. The dark Keyblade used.
2. Ventus' heart playing at least a passive role. and
3. Kairi's interference with her powers.
The only reason Sora and Roxas were able to co-exist at all was due to factor 3 with Kairi restoring Sora's human form, which in turn also prevented Roxas from gaining Sora's memories and thus enabled him becoming a person of his own in the first place (due to being "empty" at first).
Roxas "draining" Sora's power was also not from simply co-existing with Sora, but because of Naminé's memory manipulation in CoM and the existence of Xion.
When Naminé broke Sora's main Chain of Memories some of the links (memories) came to rest inside Roxas due to his connection with Sora, but it was Xion who (unwillingly and subconsciously) started absorbing/draining loose memories from Sora through Roxas, resulting in a total mess in the end with Sora's memories scattered across himself, Xion and Roxas, with the own memories of the latter two also thrown in.
This mess could have been resolved without having Xion and Roxas disappear according to Naminé, but doing that would have required several years of work, time they didn't have due to Xemnas and the Organisation's plans.
Never mind being his 3D self; if Sora learned anything from KH2, it should be that everything Xemnas has ever said was bullshit, and that he is the last person you should trust for any reliable information about Roxas; considering A) he manipulated Roxas' memories to the point where everything he knew was a lie, and B) EVERYTHING HE HAS EVER SAID WAS BULLSHIT!
KH 2's experiences certainly can also play a role, yet the several whams (which actually get Sora angry) during DDD should really raise a thousand red flags about anything Xemnas says.
I also love how Goofy goes into a fancy battle stance in that scene apparently ready to jump at Xemnas in a moments notice.
I mean probably.
But it seems pretty obvious there are more than that one and I hope Sora wont fall for it.
It IS a valid method, there's no doubt about that.
But it is certainly the worst method available and it coming from these people should get the alarm sirens go like crazy.
I mean here is the thing about Xemnas he never has actually lied, at least not directly. Every word Xemnas has said is the truth the most lying he is ever done is by lies of omission. However lies of omission aren't really true lies, it just means no one asked Xemnas the right questions. It's what makes Xemnas such an insidious and potent manipulator, he deceives by telling the truth in very deliberately phrased ways.
Like when he said "I can not feel sorrow" listen closely to the delivery, the slight awkward way of spacing. He's not saying he can't feel sorrow he's actually say "I can choose to not feel sorrow". Likewise in that scene where he talks about using the darkness to bring Roxas back that's not a lie, Ansem and Xemnas standing there are living proof of that. If Sora were to embrace the darkness, walk the same path Xehanort did and become an actual human heartless like Ansem his body would be reborn as Roxas. Allowing both Sora and Roxas to exist and without Namine's memory interference this time they really could co-exist with little issue.
And if Sora ever gets desperate enough it's not impossible that he might fall back into that as a final option.
Really? So the whole thing about the Organisation and Nobodies getting hearts and be whole only through building a KH wasn't a lie?
Sora outright calls it a lie in DDD as that is what it is. Not to mention the whole "you can't feel anything, you have no heart"-mantra he was constantly feeding the others to keep their hearts from growing, all lies and deception.
Xemnas is no better than MX himself in this regard.
I don't recall anyone actually saying that Xemnas is lying there, nope, it IS a valid method but that doesn't change the fact that it reeks of deliberate manipulation and trying to goad people into playing into his hands yet again, hence why one can certainly say that it is NOT a good idea to follow this shady "advice".
Funny though as you mention Ansem and Xemnas standing there in which what is obviously Twilight Town. How is that even possible?
According to Nomura and DDD itself the reason Ansem and Xemnas appear in the Dream Worlds is because of Young Xehanort acting as a portal, yet I don't see Young Xehanort there anywhere.
They also do appear in the "waking" world during the finale but that is as explained because of the special properties of the World that Never Was which allows all norts to assemble there.
So how can Ansem and Xemnas appear in Twilight Town in flesh and blood if it isn't a sleeping world and Young Xehanort isn't there to act as the portal?
Does Twilight Town have the same "special" properties as TWTNW or does the revived Geezernort now act as the portal?
Thing is though that this would only solve the Sora/Roxas situation, but there are still Xion and Ventus as well, not to mention that Sora would lose the Keyblade wielding ability like Ansem SoD and would yet again play into Xehanort's hands.
To the norts, Darkness is the solution to anything but it clearly isn't when looking at the wider picture.
Am I the only one who didn't immediately think that Xemnas was referring to Sora turning into a Heartless when he mentioned "calling upon the darkness?"
I mean, Sora WAS pretty gullible in DDD but I don't think he's THAT stupid. Roxas was born out of some rather unusual circumstances too, so even if Sora did lose his heart, it's pretty likely the Nobody would turn out like it usually would: with Sora's memories and identity, not Roxas'. Plus I'm pretty sure Sora feels a bit obliged to save a couple other people as well as help prevent the end of the universe before throwing his life away (again) like that.
For whatever reason, my first thought was just using darkness in some sort of way to bring people back. Forbidden magic, that sort of thing? Though I guess using darkness to slice open a heart in order to extract its contents is also possible... if not insanely risky and potentially fatal. :I
Then again, we don't have much context to this scene. Who knows if Xemnas is trying to push Sora to mess with darkness, possibly trying to discourage it (since you need 7 light and all), or just decided to show up and be a dick because that's what villains do.
As I mentioned in an earlier post, I did not immediately think of the "Heartless" bit but about the usual Modus operandi ala nort to goad people into giving in to Darkness in order for the old creep to get an entry point, with the whole "use darkness to save someone"-card having been already played by Ansem SoD towards Riku in DDD.
That's another thing to take into account for sure, lol, as there are still TAV, Xion, Naminé and Ansem the Wise to take into account for the whole "saving" thing and then prevent the apocalypse this very nort-cult is trying to bring about.
I mean, people give Axel rightfully some flak about his selfish "plan" to turn Sora into a Heartless in order to get Roxas back, yet now it is suddenly ok or "desirable" because Sora himself might do it?
That was what the Dark Keyblade in KH 1 literally did, unlock the heart in question and exposing it to its own inner darkness.
It is true there isn't much context to this scene, but it lines up very smoothly with what the norts usually do. Both Ansem and Xemnas do the very same things in DDD to both Sora and Riku while MX does some similar things towards Terra in BBS.
The aim is always to make people open up to Darkness so Nort can find an entry point in order to take advantage of the situation and further his own agenda.
If Sora has finally learnt and understood that is what arguably intrigues me most about such scenes.
Regardless if the actual content of the speech isn't an outright lie, never trust a nort and always be wary of how he might to try and exploit you.
I mean probably.
But it seems pretty obvious there are more than that one and I hope Sora wont fall for it.
Am I the only one who didn't immediately think that Xemnas was referring to Sora turning into a Heartless when he mentioned "calling upon the darkness?"
I also don't think that either. I felt like calling the Heartless as an example of how Darkness and Roxas can be tied together.
For whatever reason, my first thought was just using darkness in some sort of way to bring people back. Forbidden magic, that sort of thing? Though I guess using darkness to slice open a heart in order to extract its contents is also possible... if not insanely risky and potentially fatal. :I
Then again, we don't have much context to this scene. Who knows if Xemnas is trying to push Sora to mess with darkness, possibly trying to discourage it (since you need 7 light and all), or just decided to show up and be a dick because that's what villains do.
Both are interesting readings.
I never actually questioned that the things Xemnas says there actually are a possible way?
We know that is one possibility, but no matter how you turn it around it is the worst possibility and one that will in the end only benefit the norts.
Riku already proved us that people can be saved without relying on Darkness by figuratively giving Ansem SoD the middle-finger in DDD when he tried to goad him into it yet again.
The main thing I pointed out is how blatantly obvious Xemnas' manipulation attempt is there and that I am looking forward to see if Sora really "matured" and learned from his past experiences enough to not fall into yet another nort-scheme again.
If he keeps falling for Xehanort's tricks he's no better than, err no, scratch that, he's actually worse than Terra in BBS cause while Terra for the longest time didn't know Xehanort is a foul apple, Sora should by now have plenty enough experience to know not to trust anything coming from Xehanort/Xemnas/Ansem.
I know you didn't, I wasn't trying to call you out or something. Thought I'd clarify that it is possible and not just Xemnas spewing nonsense.
It is definitely a shallow manipulation attempt on Xemnas' part, and as you stated before that's kinda the manipulation the Norts did all the while:
- Set Kairi free but complete the Keyhole
- Set the hearts free but then they gather to make Kingdom Hearts
and now, it's set Roxas free but give into the Darkness. What is important is indeed how Sora will react (also, will that scene happen after some tragic event, thus making using the Darkness more... appealing, or something?)
Oh, and I hope Ansem has something to say and isn't just there for looking though. I mean it's Darkness we're talking about.
All I could think of at the end of the trailer was - "Bring Roxas back? Get it line! Ventus has been waiting to be rescued for 10+ years" XD.
Someone on the KH Reddit edited the render of KH3 Sora to give a more clear picture of what Second Form looks like.
Gotta say, while I love the normal KH3 outfit, the KH2 color scheme Second Form gives it looks really really fiiiiiiiine~
Is it possible they are trying to tempt Sora to fall into Darkness because they haven't had any luck in finding a thirteenth vessel?
Is it possible they are trying to tempt Sora to fall into Darkness because they haven't had any luck in finding a thirteenth vessel?
Possible. I mean, we (at least me) gave for certain they replaced Sora, but what if some people were right and KH III will indeed be about Sora actually becoming a vessel?
Anyone think that the SC could be difficulty-based? Like beginner has up to six SC available at a time but the number decreases as you go up in difficulty? And to everyone bothered about all the seemingly high-level moves being available so early in the game, remember that trailers often show late-game content in early parts of the story, for example, the Bladecharge command style in BBS was shown during the Trinity Armor boss even though Aqua and Terra can't get the style till after the fight (Terra gets it in NeverLand and Aqua gets it right after said boss).
Anyone think that the SC could be difficulty-based? Like beginner has up to six SC available at a time but the number decreases as you go up in difficulty? And to everyone bothered about all the seemingly high-level moves being available so early in the game, remember that trailers often show late-game content in early parts of the story, for example, the Bladecharge command style in BBS was shown during the Trinity Armor boss even though Aqua and Terra can't get the style till after the fight (Terra gets it in NeverLand and Aqua gets it right after said boss).
I considered that possibility. I could easily see Critical and Proud mode having only 2 or 3 SC stacked at a time. It's also possible that you will be able to stack more the more you level up, so it isn't like you will be able to overpower everything early in the game by spamming them.
Personally I would be fine with them allowing you to edit the amount you can stack via the config menu. Not to mention that the amount we seen in the trailer could be just to show off how flashy the gameplay is now, as you pointed out that all these insane abilities being available in the first world seems really unlikely.
Then again, we don't have much context to this scene. Who knows if Xemnas is trying to push Sora to mess with darkness, possibly trying to discourage it (since you need 7 light and all), or just decided to show up and be a dick because that's what villains do.
For some reason, it'd actually amuse me in a way if Ansem and Xemnas were already there doing their own thing and had no clue SDG would show up.
Discouraging Sora from darkness might actually be a good option for Team Nort. As you said, Xehanort needs 7 Lights. But also, while Sora may be susceptible, having Sora fall to darkness in DDD really only worked because Xehanort was pretty much in complete control of Sora's exam. It'd be harder to accomplish this a second time when you factor in that not only is Sora prepared now, but he's not alone this time. So while I say Xehanort's plan of controlling Sora probably isn't off the table, it's also more of a hassle now so they might just be better having him as a Light.
I feel like Donald and Goofy are stuck in these clothes.
Don't you forget Ansem the Wise's data? Yen Sid even mentions the data and that Chip & Dale are currently analyzing it to Sora in the last scenes of 0.2.
This comes on top of the proposed "Key to return Hearts" and if other incidents during the KH series should have taught us and the characters including Sora anything it is that there are more than one way to do most things and that one proposed by the norts always has a catch that plays into their latest scheme.
| I also love how Goofy goes into a fancy battle stance in that scene apparently ready to jump at Xemnas in a moments notice. |
| Funny though as you mention Ansem and Xemnas standing there in which what is obviously Twilight Town. How is that even possible? |
| Does Twilight Town have the same "special" properties as TWTNW or does the revived Geezernort now act as the portal? |
| Regardless if the actual content of the speech isn't an outright lie, never trust a nort and always be wary of how he might to try and exploit you. |
Oh, and I hope Ansem has something to say and isn't just there for looking though. I mean it's Darkness we're talking about.
All I could think of at the end of the trailer was - "Bring Roxas back? Get it line! Ventus has been waiting to be rescued for 10+ years" XD.
Wait...so does this make Ventus that fan who claims they've "been waiting 10 years" for KH3?
Not possible, because not even Nomura and SE woulf be able to resist Ventus's cinnamon rolliness and would've felt bad for not releasing yet.
I mean it wasn't a lie as Xemnas's promise WAS...
"I will give you hearts using Kingdom Hearts"
And he was absolutely going to deliver to that, he just left out that the hearts they would be given via Kingdom Hearts are copies of Xehanort's heart consuming what little self they had left to turn them into him.
When they are first born they can't feel anything and they do have no hearts, it's not a lie to say that. He just never told them that they don't remain like that, he never told them they were able to grow hearts. However he never said Kingdom Hearts was the only way...the most he did is ask Sora what other options Nobodies have which retroactively could be seen as him checking to see if Sora had figured out the truth.
It's true you should never ever trust Xehanort but it's also true that Xemnas doesn't really lie, Sora calls it a lie because technically what Xemnas did is lie by omission. But again a lie by omission isn't really a lie it's certainly as manipulative and deceptive a lie, sharing the same nature, but it's technically still telling the truth. Which is why those who master lying by omission are FAR more insidious and potent as manipulators. It's basically Apprentice Xehanort's calling card, both parts of him Ansem and Xemnas do it when compared to MX who is just a dirty baldface (Or baldhead if you want) liar. It kind of made MX unique in that unlike other Xehanorts pretty much everything he says is just a flat out lie. Maybe that's in part why he never felt convincing in BBS.
And for someone as innocent as Sora, willing to see the good before the bad, someone who lies by omission is probably far more disgusting a person. Which is why I don't see Sora falling into this trap...maybe if he had tried this before DDD Sora might of considered it for at least a moment. But after that meeting in DDD where Sora showed nothing but pure disgust and rage for every slimy thing that came out in Xemnas's silky smooth voice? No he won't fall for it but the Norts knew Riku couldn't be corrupted and still tried anyway in DDD so it makes sense they at least tried this option.
You raise a good point about Ansem and Xemnas being there without YX. It could be YX is off screen or maybe Ansem is the one using the time travel power this time explaining why he is just standing there? I mean Nomura did say with DDD "this time YX is the one who gathered the norts" implying that in the future someone else is gonna do it and that could by why Ansem is there. I mean the power of time travel is Ansem's he just lent it to YX. AND someone was going to have to travel back and grab YX again anyway since YX isn't going to know to travel to the future a second time without someone going back to order him.
if that the case could disney be taking over the marking one you know happens at d23 i mean the news will be hugh if we both think the same thing
What are you thinking that would be huge?
What are you thinking that would be huge?
I know you didn't, I wasn't trying to call you out or something. Thought I'd clarify that it is possible and not just Xemnas spewing nonsense.
It is definitely a shallow manipulation attempt on Xemnas' part, and as you stated before that's kinda the manipulation the Norts did all the while:
- Set Kairi free but complete the Keyhole
- Set the hearts free but then they gather to make Kingdom Hearts
and now, it's set Roxas free but give into the Darkness. What is important is indeed how Sora will react (also, will that scene happen after some tragic event, thus making using the Darkness more... appealing, or something?)
Oh, and I hope Ansem has something to say and isn't just there for looking though. I mean it's Darkness we're talking about.
I was just wondering because as far as I observed no one called the actual validity of Xemnas' claims into question.
Although the whole issue had certain special circumstances nonetheless which resulted in Roxas becoming the unique hybrid being that he is.
To say it as Xemnas himself would: Indeeeeeed.
Wut? As far as this series goes most "tragic" events happening to people is because of some nutjob misusing the Darkness, which IS a dangerous element there's no way around that.
Would be a bit weird to suddenly find the very thing more appealing to use which is used to make most of the tragic events happen in the first place.
Watch there being a mirrored scene during the story somewhere where Ansem SoD is again blabbering his ass off about Darkness towards Riku, Mickey and (possibly) Aqua, and then it is Xemnas who has to stand in the background looking bored.
Maybe Xemnas and Ansem are now "those two bad guys" who have to do all the leg-work for the great wrinkly Overnort.
Pffft, spot on.
Later when going through a dark corridor you have them bicker like brothers about whose speeches are more boring/flashy and who got the better theatralics. ;P
All I could think of at the end of the trailer was - "Bring Roxas back? Get it line! Ventus has been waiting to be rescued for 10+ years" XD.
Strictly spoken that's true, but it is not even sure if Sora even knows about Ventus yet because a certain forgetful Yoda Mouse and a tower-sitting, beard stroking wizard constantly forego telling him.
Sure, Ven's heart stirred within Sora during DDD and there was the whole borrowing armor to buy time issue, yet we don't know how much Sora actually consciously remembers of all that.
But not counting all details it is of course right to say that Ventus, and by extension also Aqua and Terra, are far longer in their "worse than death" situations than Roxas is.
That was their whole role in DDD. I don't want that repeated here. XD
For some reason, it'd actually amuse me in a way if Ansem and Xemnas were already there doing their own thing and had no clue SDG would show up.
Same.
Well, in the old mansion there is still Ansem the Wise's computer and the digital Twilight Town, so it could have to do something with that.
Discouraging Sora from darkness might actually be a good option for Team Nort. As you said, Xehanort needs 7 Lights. But also, while Sora may be susceptible, having Sora fall to darkness in DDD really only worked because Xehanort was pretty much in complete control of Sora's exam. It'd be harder to accomplish this a second time when you factor in that not only is Sora prepared now, but he's not alone this time. So while I say Xehanort's plan of controlling Sora probably isn't off the table, it's also more of a hassle now so they might just be better having him as a Light.
It also worked in DDD due to Sora not being prepared for all the suffering of the other hearts connected to him (possibly because of a certain Mouse forgetting to go more in-depth on the events depicted in Coded and Data-Naminé's warning which was exactly what Xehanort exploited). Therefore Sora's "fall" was more like someone tripping him and dunking him head first into the darkness, yet instead of pulling himself out, he "chose" to dive deeper in a misguided attempt to help.
Yep, Sora's better prepared now but knowing the norts that probably won't deter them fully, they also knew about Riku yet they still weren't ready to completely give up on him in DDD. It was only in Symphony of Sorcery that they finally admitted that Riku is of no more use to them.
I meant to imply that the "Key to Return Hearts" might very well be Ansem the Wise's data, but I've reread my comment and seen that I've failed such. XD
There's just something about having one of the most loved cartoon characters in history ready to brutally murder a beautiful anime man.
I can imagine it being connected to it, since it's implied to include the results of all of Ansem's heart- and nobody-research (which he continued as DiZ in secret), but I doubt the data itself is the KtRH as in that case it would be pointless to send Sora looking for it.
Indeeed, lol.
Goofy has certainly enough of all the shit the norts are pulling.
"Gawrsh Xemnas, you try again something funny and I'm gonna Goofy-rocketing you right back into the nothingness!"
Why did I suddenly picture Xemnas asking Sora for a loan after reading this?
He's probably really pissed at Xemnas right now for stealing his shtick.
Wait...so does this make Ventus that fan who claims they've "been waiting 10 years" for KH3?
Considering the norts usual shtick I'd assume Xemnas asking much more than that, lol.
Or he's rolling his eyes at Xemnas thinking his speeches suck and his own are way superior in both theatralics and content.
*snort* Rather unlikely I'd say since while he's on occasion rather sassy, Ven is usually described as friendly and "too benign for his own good" so he wouldn't be one of those constantly complaining about waiting for KH 2 since 2005. ;P
Not possible, because not even Nomura and SE woulf be able to resist Ventus's cinnamon rolliness and would've felt bad for not releasing yet.
Yep, Ventus would probably have given Nomura one of his puppy-eye-stares of diabetes-inducing cuteness (possibly with some cat-ears put on his head since Nomura loves cats) and KH III would have been released in 2015 already. ;P
I mean it wasn't a lie as Xemnas's promise WAS...
"I will give you hearts using Kingdom Hearts"
And he was absolutely going to deliver to that, he just left out that the hearts they would be given via Kingdom Hearts are copies of Xehanort's heart consuming what little self they had left to turn them into him.
When they are first born they can't feel anything and they do have no hearts, it's not a lie to say that. He just never told them that they don't remain like that, he never told them they were able to grow hearts. However he never said Kingdom Hearts was the only way...the most he did is ask Sora what other options Nobodies have which retroactively could be seen as him checking to see if Sora had figured out the truth.
It's true you should never ever trust Xehanort but it's also true that Xemnas doesn't really lie, Sora calls it a lie because technically what Xemnas did is lie by omission. But again a lie by omission isn't really a lie it's certainly as manipulative and deceptive a lie, sharing the same nature, but it's technically still telling the truth. Which is why those who master lying by omission are FAR more insidious and potent as manipulators. It's basically Apprentice Xehanort's calling card, both parts of him Ansem and Xemnas do it when compared to MX who is just a dirty baldface (Or baldhead if you want) liar. It kind of made MX unique in that unlike other Xehanorts pretty much everything he says is just a flat out lie. Maybe that's in part why he never felt convincing in BBS.
And for someone as innocent as Sora, willing to see the good before the bad, someone who lies by omission is probably far more disgusting a person. Which is why I don't see Sora falling into this trap...maybe if he had tried this before DDD Sora might of considered it for at least a moment. But after that meeting in DDD where Sora showed nothing but pure disgust and rage for every slimy thing that came out in Xemnas's silky smooth voice? No he won't fall for it but the Norts knew Riku couldn't be corrupted and still tried anyway in DDD so it makes sense they at least tried this option.
You raise a good point about Ansem and Xemnas being there without YX. It could be YX is off screen or maybe Ansem is the one using the time travel power this time explaining why he is just standing there? I mean Nomura did say with DDD "this time YX is the one who gathered the norts" implying that in the future someone else is gonna do it and that could by why Ansem is there. I mean the power of time travel is Ansem's he just lent it to YX. AND someone was going to have to travel back and grab YX again anyway since YX isn't going to know to travel to the future a second time without someone going back to order him.
Isn't that splitting hairs a little?
Deception remains deception in the end and using some parts that are the truth in the way one does it doesn't make it any better or "justified" in any way.
Thinking up some fake story or just leaving out some crucial points (aka the full truth) are two different approaches, but still amount to the same result in the end.
If they would really follow the logical approach and show that Sora learned he certainly shouldn't fall for it, anything else would be either bad writing or showing off that Sora is someone who doesn't learn from former mistakes.
An interesting take on the issue for sure.
Ansem was the original "owner" of the time travel powers anyways so it could make sense for him being the portal again, although that gives us the question as to how can Ansem run around freely in the present of KH III and be the portal when the recompleted full Xehanort is also already around.
If this is a "present" Ansem SoD this could mean that Master Xehanort somehow found a way to extract the "essences" or whatever is left of both Ansem and Xemnas from within himself (as that is where the "true" Ansem and Xemnas should be after recompletion) and also give them a form so they can exist alongside him during the present.
Was I the only one who thought this trailer wasn't real when the thumbnail picture popped up on youtube? XD
Overall the trailer was great. I'm really looking forward to the new trailer next month as well.
Its cool that Sora is trying to get Roxas back, the poor kid was only existing for a year before having to give up his own existence for Sora to wake after all. But please don't get tricked by Xemnas again. Once was fine but twice is ridiculous, the guy is obviously evil and not even remotely hiding his motives.
As for Xion coming back I have mixed feelings about. I'm one of those people who have only watched the 1.5 remix cutscenes and I don't really care too much about her as a character.
Also I want Ven to talk to Sora inside his head in KH3. It would be funny (in my opinion) if Sora talks aloud to himself and others over hear him chatting with himself. It would also help in building a proper friendship between the two before they retrieve Ven's body from Castle Oblivion.
Judging by the trailer, I'm pretty sure Roxas is gonna be brought back to life or something in KH3 and since I thought his disappearance in KH2 was a good ending to his story, it feels like the developers will revive him just for fanservice to the Roxas fans.
Judging by the trailer, I'm pretty sure Roxas is gonna be brought back to life or something in KH3 and since I thought his disappearance in KH2 was a good ending to his story, it feels like the developers will revive him just for fanservice to the Roxas fans.
Roxas can be brought back to the series outside of fan service, The Guardians of Light roster has not been defined yet.
Judging by the trailer, I'm pretty sure Roxas is gonna be brought back to life or something in KH3 and since I thought his disappearance in KH2 was a good ending to his story, it feels like the developers will revive him just for fanservice to the Roxas fans.
Roxas (and others) being brought back to life/saved has literally been a plotpoint in the series for the past 7 years, across 4 different games?
i just noticed that all of the buttons are missing
Also I want Ven to talk to Sora inside his head in KH3. It would be funny (in my opinion) if Sora talks aloud to himself and others over hear him chatting with himself. It would also help in building a proper friendship between the two before they retrieve Ven's body from Castle Oblivion.
If the dialogue is anything like Jaime Reyes and the Scarab or TFS's Piccolo, Kami and Nail, then I would 100% be on baord with this. Hell, toss in Xion and Roxas for good measure and we can pretty much have representation from each non-Sora installment in his head during the journey.
Late Response, but this trailer was honestly amazing! I can tell the gameplay in particular is really polished by this point too. I really liked the idea of second form, it's definitely going to make Kingdom Key runs much more interesting for speed runners.Although for some reason, the flashy gameplay didn't hype me up much, at least not like it normally does. Lol, probably cause I watched it at like, five in the morning (to tired to react) and analyzed it so fast I couldn't get excited much later on.I also thought it was funny how the casual gamer's response to ending cut-scene was always like "Oh my god we're getting Roxas back?!!" when it was literally foreshadowed in the past four games and almost outright said in DDD.
Hmm, but despite all these new trailers, I don't think it's coming next year since Nomura said that even though there were completed worlds that were ready to be showcased, many still remained untouched. And they also have to remake character models from scratch, which also doesn't help. So I'm gonna keep banking on a 2019 release for the time being, until they give us a official release window.
Hmm, but despite all these new trailers, I don't think it's coming next year since Nomura said that even though there were completed worlds that were ready to be showcased, many still remained untouched. And they also have to remake character models from scratch, which also doesn't help. So I'm gonna keep banking on a 2019 release for the time being, until they give us a official release window.
I can not imagine they are not doing that now as we speak. Keep in mind that interview was back in January, some of those worlds could be near done or getting an immense amount of work done on them. This trailer, in my opinion, shows that KH3 is far more completed than we imagined. That U.I seems to be working, a lot of it seems final, and the fact that the Japanese and English trailers are different leads me to believe these are different builds, aka cooperative localization of the game. Not to mention cutscenes are already in the game. I think 2018 is still the year we are getting this, and I am pretty confident on that. WHEN in 2018 I have no clue, but I do believe we my receive a hint of the release next month (at least a year and/or quarter).
To be honest, I want them to sleep on the release date for awhile. I don't want another FFXV/Last Guardian incident, that way if they ever have to delay it only the company is aware of what the initial date was.
That being said, I'd like to put money on the fact that Disney probably really wants it out next year, especially considering next year will be the fifth year from when it was announced, even if it's only been in development since restarting in 2014.
If the dialogue is anything like Jaime Reyes and the Scarab or TFS's Piccolo, Kami and Nail, then I would 100% be on baord with this. Hell, toss in Xion and Roxas for good measure and we can pretty much have representation from each non-Sora installment in his head during the journey.
I can only imagine the chaos that would ensue when he stops in a world to talk to himself which either confuses or annoys whatever disney character he comes across.
i just noticed that all of the buttons are missing
They remove them so they don't appear to be favoriting Playstation or Xbox.
OMG
[video=youtube;rwhEY92Iivg]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwhEY92Iivg[/video]
is this yoko's new piece? it's so fire I must have more
is this yoko's new piece? it's so fire I must have more
It's the final boss theme in 0.2 a fragmentary passage. We will get a bunch more when KH3 drops xD
It's the final boss theme in 0.2 a fragmentary passage. We will get a bunch more when KH3 drops xD
God bless. I am ecstatic.
I'm hoping we can dive off Mount Olympus now.
is this yoko's new piece? it's so fire I must have more
[video=youtube;b6ltTZxIzwk]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6ltTZxIzwk[/video]
Technically, it's the Orchestra version. People need to make that clarification cause I got confused first time around.
I've been thinking about the wording at the end of the trailer:
| ...we proudly present a NEW WORLD and NEW TRAILER |
What's the bet that these are both separate, and the new World is only shown off in concept art and producer video while the new trailer shows off just Corona and San Fransokyo lmao
I've been thinking about the wording at the end of the trailer:
What's the bet that these are both separate, and the new World is only shown off in concept art and producer video while the new trailer shows off just Corona and San Fransokyo lmao
I've assumed this exactly for a while. We'll prob get concept art for a new world and actual footage of already announced ones. Fine by me, I don't need to see the whole game in a trailer
I've assumed this exactly for a while. We'll prob get concept art for a new world and actual footage of already announced ones. Fine by me, I don't need to see the whole game in a trailer
I'm satisfied seeing Big Hero 6 in action. I rewatched the film this evening and have a lot of questions about how the world will play out.
I'm satisfied seeing Big Hero 6 in action. I rewatched the film this evening and have a lot of questions about how the world will play out.
Personally, I hope that Abigail Callaghan has a role in the game. Sure, she was more of a plot device as opposed to being an outright character, but she was a former astronaut that traveled to a different dimension. Seeing as the Disney worlds are more connected to the lore of the series for this game, I can see her talking about other worlds like The Realm of Darkness.
Probably an odd question but how do you think Xemnas and the rest of the norts know that Sora and co. are trying to bring Roxas and etc... back?
Probably an odd question but how do you think Xemnas and the rest of the norts know that Sora and co. are trying to bring Roxas and etc... back?
Aside from them being candidates for the X-Blade, it has been showed that Xehanort can read their intentions like a book. Wasn't too hard for him to figure it out.
Aside from them being candidates for the X-Blade, it has been showed that Xehanort can read their intentions like a book. Wasn't too hard for him to figure it out.
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