Mobile01: Star Wars & Marvel unlikely, Frozen and the Black Pearl
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- Published on June 14, 2018 @ 03:10 am
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There's been plenty of news about KINGDOM HEARTS 3 coming out of E3 2018. The latest of this is an interview conducted by Mobile01, a Chinese social network website, and Series Director Tetsuya Nomura.
Players who are new to the series have many concerns about whether or not they will be able to jump right into this new installment. Of course, it's recommended to try and experience all of the previous titles firsthand, it may not be feasible for everyone. To help with this issue, Nomura confirms they are working on a video that will summarize the story in order to make Kingdom Hearts 3 more accessible. The Japanese version is almost complete, and more information will be announced soon.
He also addresses the question of whether or not Star Wars or Marvel properties could make an appearance in the series. After the inclusion of Toy Story, Monsters Inc. and the character of Remy from Ratatouille representing Pixar, many believed other properties from Disney's various acquisitions could make an appearance in the near future. However, as Star Wars and Marvel characters are not original Disney characters, including them may prove to be difficult and therefore unlikely.
Commenting on the long-awaited Frozen reveal, Nomura admitted he was quite cautious about adding someone as popular as Elsa. There are many expectations to live up to after all, and they want to do the character and the film justice. While Arendelle mainly features the story of the original film, they will take the opportunity to expand on the world within Kingdom Hearts 3.
In addition, in the recently released Pirates of the Caribbean trailer, players can spot that several modes of transportation will be available in the game. In particular with the Black Pearl, its primary function is as a vehicle to travel across the seas, and the pirate ship battle system is a special mechanic that is not always available.
Source: Mobile01
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Re: Nomura: Star Wars and Avengers unlikely due to not being original Disney properties
Worry not I'm very sure we will be seeing Star Wars and Marvel in the future of the franchise just not in KH3.
Re: Nomura: Star Wars and Avengers unlikely due to not being original Disney properties
Great information, thanks!
Although it sounds as if Nomura didn't table the matter completely, it sounds like it would be safe to assume not seeing either Marvel or Star Wars, as to not be disappointed. Couldn't be happier with how this game looks so far either way!
Re: Nomura: Star Wars and Avengers unlikely due to not being original Disney properties
With its light vs darkness themes, I guess the series already has a bunch of Star Wars in it already.
Re: Nomura: Star Wars and Avengers unlikely due to not being original Disney properties
This is great news to me! I don't really care if they show up in future installments, but for the end of this saga, just seems right to have original Disney properties.
Re: Nomura: Star Wars and Avengers unlikely due to not being original Disney properties
Star Wars is too big. And KH has a lot of things that are inspired by Star Wars. It would be difficult to add that in without messing with the lore. Same with Marvel, espsically if you watched Infinity War. How would they add all that Thanos world killing plot that doesn't mess with what Xehanort or some other villian is doing? You would have to scale it down to just Earth but what section of the earth since the world of KH is separated, so you could only realistically do one Marvel character's perspective for that to make sense since Marvel characters live in many different places around the world.
Noruma made the right call.
Re: Nomura: Star Wars and Avengers unlikely due to not being original Disney properties
What’s the third world?
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Re: Nomura: Star Wars and Avengers unlikely due to not being original Disney properties
Extremely disappointing. Toy Story wasn't made by Disney and was added so the reasoning is confusing.
Re: Nomura: Star Wars and Avengers unlikely due to not being original Disney properties
Welp, there goes my hope for Lesbian Icon Thor to be included somehow as a summon.
Extremely disappointing. Toy Story wasn't made by Disney and was added so the reasoning is confusing.
Tbf Disney and Pixar, while originally technically being separate companies (sorta?), were still pretty much always connected so it's not really the same.
Re: Nomura: Star Wars and Avengers unlikely due to not being original Disney properties
I'm glad they recognize a difference between PIXAR and Marvel/SW. While I personally would like it if even PIXAR was kept out of KH, I can at least endure those properties since they are animated films. Marvel/SW would further erode this series' identity.
Updated the OP with some more information from the article. Sorry guys, posted a bit prematurely!
In particular with the Black Pearl, its primary function is as a vehicle to travel across the seas, and the pirate ship battle system is a special mechanic that is not always available.
That's kind of a bummer, but I expected that the pirate ship battles are story initiated.
Would've been cool to just take the Black Pearl around and randomly encounter other pirate ships to fight with.
Looking forward to seeing what Nomura does with Elsa. Given that she is intended to be one of the new PoH she might have a larger role outside of her world.
Honestly a bit relieving. Like many have said, BH6 does more than satisfy the hero department and if there were to need any more Incredibles is available. I love Star Wars but don't need in in KH any time soon.
In addition, in the recently released Pirates of the Caribbean trailer, players can spot that several modes of transportation will be available in the game. In particular with the Black Pearl, its primary function is as a vehicle to travel across the seas, and the pirate ship battle system is a special mechanic that is not always available.
I thought this was one of the most interesting parts of the trailer, aside from the underwater gameplay. I love it, personally. I wonder if this kind of vehicular control might be something featured in another world yet to be revealed--maybe Atlantis's flying vehicles, spaceships in Stitch, or a Cruella battle in One Hundred and One Dalmatians for example?
Re: Nomura: Star Wars and Avengers unlikely due to not being original Disney properties
I'm glad they recognize a difference between PIXAR and Marvel/SW. While I personally would like it if even PIXAR was kept out of KH, I can at least endure those properties since they are animated films. Marvel/SW would further erode this series' identity.
So you're against Pirates of The Caribbean being a world and are for a Star Wars Rebels and Marvel cartoon worlds?
To help with this issue, Nomura confirms they are working on a video that will summarize the story in order to make Kingdom Hearts 3 more accessible. The Japanese version is almost complete, and more information will be announced soon.
If he means the story of the entire series, oh boy. Many have tried, and many have failed. OTOH it'll be fun to see if Nomura can keep his own plot straight, and who knows, maybe we'll get some unexpected bits of clarification [strike]even though everything should really be comprehensible just from playing the games you know[/strike].
If he means summarizing the plot of KH3, good. That is needed as well.
I thought this was one of the most interesting parts of the trailer, aside from the underwater gameplay. I love it, personally. I wonder if this kind of vehicular control might be something featured in another world yet to be revealed--maybe Atlantis's flying vehicles, spaceships in Stitch, or a Cruella battle in One Hundred and One Dalmatians for example?
I agree. I'm ambivalent about PotC returning for reasons, but I do like that they're giving the world its own character and drastically altering the way the game will play for at least some portions of it. I think seeing Sora swim in the open ocean is the first time I've really felt that a world looked truly massive, even though others have obviously increased in scale from previous titles.
Re: Nomura: Star Wars and Avengers unlikely due to not being original Disney properties
Extremely disappointing. Toy Story wasn't made by Disney and was added so the reasoning is confusing.
That's flawed logic. Every Pixar movie since Toy Story was disttibuted by Buena Vista Pictures (Walt Disney Studios Motion Pictures). Unlike Marvel Studios and Lucasfilm, Disney always had a partnership with Pixar ever since it spun off as an indipendant company from Lucasfilm's Computer Graphics Division.
And besides, Disney held sequel rights and consumer products and interactive media rights for Pixar before they were vertically integrated into Walt Disney Studios. Nomura's reasoning makes sense from a legal perspective.
Begone Star Wars & Marvel! So glad to hear this ^^
I'm still standing on my previous perspective, no star wars or marvel worlds (yet). but... if possible... DLC weapons for SDG, most likely based on a theme (like infinity war or something). but a dream come true would be... A LIGHTSABER KEYBLADE FOR SORA SO THAT YOU CAN FINALLY END THE "EVIL SPOCK" SAGA WITH STAR WARS SYMBOLISM.
Noticed he didn't specifically say anything about hijacking that flying heartless. Maybe something you'll do in a few other worlds and it's not so much unique to Pirates?
I thought that was a cool moment, though i can't really think of another world that would make use of it.
I thought that was a cool moment, though i can't really think of another world that would make use of it.
Off the top of my head, Olympus could use this mechanic in the Wind Titan fight. And I think there are plenty of ways to add flying heartless bosses even if they aren't really necessary in specific worlds.
Noticed he didn't specifically say anything about hijacking that flying heartless. Maybe something you'll do that in a few other worlds and it's not so much unique to Pirates?
I thought that was a cool moment, though i can't really think of another world that would make use of it.
I keep getting a Mario Odyssey vibe. In that game, you are able to "capture" and take control of various enemy types and use their abilities. Maybe we can use Heartless that for example, move (or swim) extra fast or jump really high. There are so many possibilities, I hardly think the selection of worlds would limit this.
Noticed he didn't specifically say anything about hijacking that flying heartless. Maybe something you'll in a few other worlds and it's not so much unique to Pirates?
I thought that was a cool moment, though i can't really think of another world that would make use of it.
Atlantis would with the gliders. It might be slightly different as it wouldn’t be a Heartless, but it could probably use the same mechanics.
Nomura didn’t dismiss the possibility of SW/Marvel stuff completely. It sounds like if they would only ever attempt it if there was a high demand for it considering how much effort they would have to go through to make it happen. Considering how divisive SW/Marvel is to fans, I don’t think the chance is there.
I still stand by my opinion that they could totally do innocuous things like DLC costumes and weapons for the fun of it, and that spider-Man is the only character who can transcend Marvel and fit into Kingdom Hearts.
Noticed he didn't specifically say anything about hijacking that flying heartless. Maybe something you'll do in a few other worlds and it's not so much unique to Pirates?
I thought that was a cool moment, though i can't really think of another world that would make use of it.
Nomura did say way back when that we’d be able to ride Heartless around, but I think our collective minds thought of something like the Hot Rod Heartless as we couldn’t even fathom where this game would go.
I thought it was this article that mentioned it, but I can’t find it now. I saw somewhere that more characters would be appearing with mini games like Remy’s. This makes me wonder about the status of Winnie the Pooh’s “possible†appearance. Maybe it won’t be a minigame world this time around. I don’t think they’ll depict any violence there, but maybe it could be of an exploration/puzzle solving experience?
As for SW/Marvel, I don’t think they would make good worlds simply because they both have such rich mythos surrounding their universe. But his comments definitely don’t rule out some surprise appearances/references. Big Hero 6 has a Stan Lee reference, so even something like that could be possible. A summon would definitely be a worthwhile way to give fans a big surprise. My hopes would be for Spidey or Groot. But even just some weapons and stuff themed to the properties would be cool.
Sorry not sorry but I'm happy with these news. The question is if Elsa could be a party member? If not will there be any party members at all in Arendelle? I could do without it but I'm curious.
(speaking of big hero 6 anybody cant any epsiode of yet?)i'm more curous on this vodeo and going to tackle it
Sorry not sorry but I'm happy with these news. The question is if Elsa could be a party member? If not will there be any party members at all in Arendelle? I could do without it but I'm curious.
I think she could be. His comments sound similar to how he spoke of Rapunzel when they didn’t want to show her until her combat was refined. They could still be working on her unique ice magic animations and stuff. She probably wouldn’t be a party member until she gained control of her abilities though, which happens at the end.
That leads me back to a previous idea I had. Some of these worlds might have two stage plots. For example, the first half of Toy Story could be what happens in the copy world and then the second half is what happens in the real world, Pirates could be half Dead Man’s Chest and half World’s arms, half of Frozen could be the movie and the other could be an original scenario.
Elsa could end up getting the Hercules treatment. Not a party member in her first appearance to the series, but might become one in later games? I have a feeling the world will be in more KH games in the future.
Off the top of my head, Olympus could use this mechanic in the Wind Titan fight. And I think there are plenty of ways to add flying heartless bosses even if they aren't really necessary in specific worlds.
Yeah that's true.
I keep getting a Mario Odyssey vibe. In that game, you are able to "capture" and take control of various enemy types and use their abilities. Maybe we can use Heartless that for example, move (or swim) extra fast or jump really high. There are so many possibilities, I hardly think the selection of worlds would limit this.
Yeah this really opens up so many potential enemy types he can capture. I'll love to see Sora hijack an underwater heartless..maybe like some sort of submarine inspired type. If there's ground and air..why not underwater too?
Atlantis would with the gliders. It might be slightly different as it wouldn’t be a Heartless, but it could probably use the same mechanics.
Yeah forgot about this.
I can see it being more of a bigger feature for that world, opposed to something that looks a bit more limited to certain parts in pirates. I doubt you'll be able to hijack a random flying heartless and it'll be fine with Sora flying around with it indefinitely lol
I can see the gliders being a little similar to skateboards in Kh2. In that they'll be parked in certain places and Sora can use it whenever for quick movement.
Nomura did say way back when that we’d be able to ride Heartless around, but I think our collective minds thought of something like the Hot Rod Heartless as we couldn’t even fathom where this game would go.
Yeah definitely. Makes me wonder what they'll do in BH6 seeing it's really high tech. I can see hijacking robots coming back but i'm not really imaginative in that department for whatever else they could do.
Elsa could end up getting the Hercules treatment. Not a party member in her first appearance to the series, but might become one in later games? I have a feeling the world will be in more KH games in the future.
Who do you think would be a party member then? I think that she'll be a party member but that she'll come in after they meet her in her tower, when she goes through her "I'm better off alone" phase, it'll just be SDG but after they meet with her and talk with her, she'll probably become a fully fledged party member. I think that this will happen early on in the world, as when they first arrive it looks like she's already running away to be alone.
I have a question.
Will there be sea shanties?
I'd love a harder super boss level pirate ship battle later in the game... Maybe against Hook's ship from KH1?
I still don't see Star Wars fitting in with Kingdom Hearts. Personally, I think they clash. And besides, we already a (better) live action world :)
I still don't see Star Wars fitting in with Kingdom Hearts. Personally, I think they clash. And besides, we already a (better) live action world :)
Nah, Star Wars would have been leagues better and it would have fit better IMO. This is coming from somebody that is hyped for The Caribbean too.
I'd love a harder super boss level pirate ship battle later in the game... Maybe against Hook's ship from KH1?
It sounds like the ship won’t be free roaming but I wish it was so we could accidently run in to endgame level sea monsters or something. Like the Weapons in FF7. We’d have to learn where they are and avoid them until we’re strong enough to come back and fight them later in the game. Even though most people don’t like On Stranger Tides, I think Blackbeard would be an awesome superboss considering he can control the ropes and stuff on his ship.
I always assumed Anna would be the party member shortly after the world started, and Elsa would become the party member after she gained control of her abilities- maybe even just for the final boss or something. I feel like with how often Anna and Elsa become more important than the other depending on the plot they could always be traded out for each other or be absent altogether, though, maybe only both being together for the last little piece.
I always assumed Anna would be the party member shortly after the world started, and Elsa would become the party member after she gained control of her abilities- maybe even just for the final boss or something. I feel like with how often Anna and Elsa become more important than the other depending on the plot they could always be traded out for each other or be absent altogether, though, maybe only both being together for the last little piece.
Olaf has too much interesting potential for quirky animations to be shafted for Anna.
Olaf has too much interesting potential for quirky animations to be shafted for Anna.
Couldn't put it better myself.
Personally, I don't see Anna and Kristoff as combat ready characters. Rapunzel has magic hair going for her whilst Flynn is a thief, a caricature that just so happens to be a Final Fantasy class. Seriously, I really can't think of any combat based integration for Anna and Kristoff.
Hey Kristoff is a big, burly guy. He could wield pick axes
I want Olaf because he wouldn't have to be powered down like they would for Elsa, also the plot isn't conducive to having Elsa around for everything.
Odd pick, but I'd like Sven as our other party member.
Wasn't there a scene in the movie where Kristoff was fighting off wolves? Having him as a party member doesn't seem so farfetched. For the second party member I'd assume Elsa cause of the ice powers.
See, the implementation of Marvel via Big Hero 6 seems right. Honestly, the series could be weaned on to SW correctly (i.e. Stormtroopers in a Disney world based off WIR: Ralph Breaks the Internet). Though I don't exactly want it, it wouldn't really affect me. The series can have shifts in tone, emphasis on specific properties per arc, per game, and I think a team creative and respectful enough could do it right. It's probably appropriate to leave it out if this saga though.
There's another way they can put Marvel in KH3. If they include Game Central Station, Marvel vs. Capcom has long been established as a staple for arcade games. They don't have to show Capcom, just a bunch of suited up retro Marvel superheroes loitering about in a cameo waiting for their turn to fight.
Wtb Stan Lee cameo as a janitor pls
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