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[RUMOR] Playable Riku and Fantasia in KINGDOM HEARTS 3

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Published on January 20, 2018 @ 11:38 pm
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All big releases are accompanied by an onslaught of rumors and leaks, and KINGDOM HEARTS 3 is certainly no stranger to them. We've had screenshots of a world based on Monsters Inc., found in a FTP server that was supposedly used as a means of communication between Square Enix and an art contractor. PHI from SERGE, an underground DJ, also claimed to have been involved in remixing battle and area music for a specific world, although all trace of this has since been deleted.

This time, the rumor comes from the February 2018 issue of the Playstation Official Magazine - Australia. In a short preview for this long-awaited title, they state that KINGDOM HEARTS 3 will be split up between the perspectives of Sora and Riku, and features new worlds to visit inspired by Toy Story, Fantasia and Tangled. While it's been confirmed that the game will include another playable character, the identity of this individual has yet to be revealed. A Fantasia world has also not been announced.

Do you believe that Playstation Official Magazine - Australia accidentally leaked legitimate information? Although the previously released Dream Drop Distance already includes a Fantasia world (and coincidentally also features Riku as another playable character), a world based on Fantasia 2000, the follow-up to the original film, had been considered but didn't make the cut. Perhaps KINGDOM HEARTS 3 offers the perfect opportunity to include it. Or could this just be a misunderstanding that slipped through in editing?

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Divine Past

January 21, 2018 @ 12:36 amOffline

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I wonder if it means playing as Riku for a boss fight or 2 only or actually exploring worlds and seeing his perspective on the story.

OathkeeperRoxas XIII

January 21, 2018 @ 12:37 amOffline

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Hmm, well we got to be in a Fantasia world outside DDD, but Riku playable I sorta believe since we should control him and Mickey's mission


Right now, half true, half false

Sign

January 21, 2018 @ 12:41 amOffline

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I'm tired of rumors. Can it be February already?

Silver_Soul

January 21, 2018 @ 12:41 amOffline

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You would expect official magazine publications would be accurate, but personally I did not want Riku to be playable. Kairi is pretty much the only main character we had not been able to control, and she needed the most growth.

gosoxtim

January 21, 2018 @ 12:52 amOffline

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um okay the only world riku would be exploring would be the relam of darkness but the fantasia would make the kh15 picture sensesince there were a music note in on them and yeah sign i with you with these rumors is starting to piss me of now i hope they show the trailer for the public

i think it was a typo becuase it sounds like that they though 3d was part of kh3 and accidetly put in the kh3 stuff

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DarkosOverlord

January 21, 2018 @ 12:56 amOffline

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Man, the first half seems something taken from any random DDD excerpt.

Sign
I'm tired of rumors. Can it be February already?


Absolutely seconded. I get why this flow of rumors is a thing, but that doesn't make me like it more.

Silver_Soul

January 21, 2018 @ 12:58 amOffline

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DarkosOverlord
Man, the first half seems something taken from any random DDD excerpt.


That's exactly what I was thinking. I only accept what Nomura says as truth from now on. Leaks and rumors mean zilch haha.

Chaser

January 21, 2018 @ 01:11 amOffline

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I was absolutely lucky to be in the middle of grocery shopping when I saw this edition of Playstation Magazine on sale. I gave it a flick, saw KH3, and immediately sent a pic to Sign.

It does feel reminiscent of Dream Drop Distance, but they might be confusing Fantastia with the Mysterious Tower? After all, the same location was used in both worlds. The Riku thing is out of the blue though.

Dreaded_Desire62

January 21, 2018 @ 01:14 amOffline

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Sign
I'm tired of rumors. Can it be February already?
There's only eleven days left of the month.

gosoxtim

January 21, 2018 @ 01:24 amOffline

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Chaser
I was absolutely lucky to be in the middle of grocery shopping when I saw this edition of Playstation Magazine on sale. I gave it a flick, saw KH3, and immediately sent a pic to Sign.

It does feel reminiscent of Dream Drop Distance, but they might be confusing Fantastia with the Mysterious Tower? After all, the same location was used in both worlds. The Riku thing is out of the blue though.

chaser do you think nomura or sqaure told them that riku is the second playable characther and if he is that sucks or it was a mistake

Chaser

January 21, 2018 @ 01:26 amOffline

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gosoxtim
chaser do you think nomura or sqaure told them that riku is the second playable characther and if he is that sucks or it was a mistake

There was an interview between Playstation Magazine and Yosuke Matsuda, much like the one GamesTM had. They discussed Final Fantasy VII Remake and Tokyo RPG Factory, but no KH3 name drop there. It could be possible they talked about KH3 and he said Sora and Riku would be playable, but its more than likely the writer of that blurb didn't fact check what they thought was confirmed.

gosoxtim

January 21, 2018 @ 01:28 amOffline

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Chaser
There was an interview between Playstation Magazine and Yosuke Matsuda, much like the one GamesTM had. They discussed Final Fantasy VII Remake and Tokyo RPG Factory, but no KH3 name drop there. It could be possible they talked about KH3 and he said Sora and Riku would be playable, but its more than likely the writer of that blurb didn't fact check what they thought was confirmed.
yeah that would make sense thanks chaser for clearing that up

luuizhenriquem

January 21, 2018 @ 01:29 amOffline

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Sign
I'm tired of rumors. Can it be February already?


Right? The worst part is that we don't even know if the stuff shown at D23 Japan will be available for us after the event lol

Let's keep our faith tho

Chaser

January 21, 2018 @ 01:31 amOffline

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For some context, the magazine's theme this month is "100 games to look forward to over the next 12 months" which is why KH3 was put there. Bigger games get a feature, whereas other titles get a tiny blurb. For some reason The Last of Us Part 2 was put into this feature, with a two page spread despite not being confirmed for 2018.

gosoxtim

January 21, 2018 @ 01:33 amOffline

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Chaser
For some context, the magazine's theme this month is "100 games to look forward to over the next 12 months" which is why KH3 was put there. Bigger games get a feature, whereas other titles get a tiny blurb. For some reason The Last of Us Part 2 was put into this feature, with a two page spread despite not being confirmed for 2018.
you know what that piss me off chaser i get it a big really most antiampted game of 2018 is i all hear about when the game doesnt even have a year

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UltimaXOmega

January 21, 2018 @ 01:34 amOffline

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I'm still saying it was a screw up.
I never realized Mysterious Tower was from Fantasia either.

luuizhenriquem

January 21, 2018 @ 01:36 amOffline

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Chaser
For some context, the magazine's theme this month is "100 games to look forward to over the next 12 months" which is why KH3 was put there. Bigger games get a feature, whereas other titles get a tiny blurb. For some reason The Last of Us Part 2 was put into this feature, with a two page spread despite not being confirmed for 2018.


The Last of Us 2 will not be out this year lol I saw an article the other day saying the development have been a mess

edit: here's the article

Chaser

January 21, 2018 @ 01:36 amOffline

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gosoxtim
you know what that piss me off chaser i get it a big really most antiampted game of 2018 is i all hear about when the game doesnt even have a year

Yeah it pisses me off too. There was a video I watched a few weeks ago where they talked about their most anticipated games of 2018 and they even went out of their way to make a point that they're only including games with confirmed 2018 releases. Then they put TLoU Part 2 in going "yeah yeah we know it doesn't have a date!"

With 100 games to cover in this issue, and more, I feel like actually putting a spread on a different game would have been good instead of giving that spot to an unconfirmed release. Same goes for FFVIIR though I think that might have been in a different topic, as there was a two page spread on FFIII.

Cyborg009

January 21, 2018 @ 03:23 amOffline

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yeah, i'll take a grain of salt for this one. but if it is this to be real, i got two words: Firebird Suite.

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notnow123487

January 21, 2018 @ 03:33 amOffline

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luuizhenriquem
The Last of Us 2 will not be out this year lol I saw an article the other day saying the development have been a mess

edit: here's the article


Uh what? That’s a quote from Neil druckmann. The director of the game. He wouldn’t be using the word mess on record unless he was using it facetiously. In context, he’s saying that in game development what the public doesn’t see outside of demos is a broken mess that is daunting because games don’t come together until the last few months. He was talking about game development in general is a mess, not how their development in particular is a mess.

MATGSY

January 21, 2018 @ 03:48 amOffline

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Riku would be like the lamest possible other playable character they could've gone with. He's already been playable to varying degrees in 4 other games. Give someone else*coughKairicough* the spotlight.

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notnow123487

January 21, 2018 @ 04:08 amOffline

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MATGSY
Riku would be like the lamest possible other playable character they could've gone with. He's already been playable to varying degrees in 4 other games. Give someone else*coughKairicough* the spotlight.


Already know how to design his play style and Nomura views him as a secondary protagonist. I know we don’t want it because we want someone new, but it does make the most sense.

astralojia

January 21, 2018 @ 04:08 amOffline

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notnow123487
Uh what? That’s a quote from Neil druckmann. The director of the game. He wouldn’t be using the word mess on record unless he was using it facetiously. In context, he’s saying that in game development what the public doesn’t see outside of demos is a broken mess that is daunting because games don’t come together until the last few months. He was talking about game development in general is a mess, not how their development in particular is a mess.


I think it's hard imagining that a sequel for that game would really have a mess of a development anyway, considering the gameplay is going to be exactly the same and it's going to use the same code.......unless it's adding a whole slew of new features. Feature hell can make a sequels development a mess. I always assumed that's what has made KH3s development take so long. They're using a different engine and adding in a whole bunch of new features, like they do with every game.

That and the fact that they could have just worked on it in the first place rather than the spinoffs, but I actually kind of liked the spinoffs.

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UltimaXOmega

January 21, 2018 @ 04:10 amOffline

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I'd rather see Eraqus or Xehanort before than Kairi tbh.

Oracle Spockanort

January 21, 2018 @ 06:28 amOffline

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I think the editor either didn’t do his research (which wouldn’t be surprising considering how much people actually care about KH at these publications) or accidentally dropped some info before it was supposed to be revealed.

As it stands, I wouldn’t be surprised if there was a segment where we play as Riku. He’s the secondary protagonist, has a pretty important mission in KH3, and since he is traveling with Mickey, the party setup is already halfway designed thanks to 0.2. (Also we need to find out what is in their suitcases /s)

As for Fantasia, they could create beautiful areas designed after 2000 since they wanted it in KH3D. Imagine a Firebird boss!

Sonicfan2525

January 21, 2018 @ 06:30 amOffline

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Yeah after reading the article I can't help but get the impression that the author either got the game mixed up with 3D or they are assuming that elements like the Fantasia world and playing as Riku will carry over to KH3. I have seen gaming websites and magazines make these kinds of mistakes before, so I would assume that is the case here. That said the Fantasia world was one of the highlights of 3D for me (which is a game that I didn't even really care for) so I would love to see it return with the power and potential of the UE4.

Chaser

January 21, 2018 @ 06:30 amOffline

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I’m forever salty that the beautiful field of blue flowers was not a playable section. If Fantasia were to be in KH3, I would want that area to be available.

The Firebird is the only story I know from Fantasia 2000, and that’s because everyone talks about it. Are there any other stories from the film that would beautiful translate to Kingdom Hearts 3?

redcrown

January 21, 2018 @ 06:40 amOffline

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Oracle Spockanort

As it stands, I wouldn’t be surprised if there was a segment where we play as Riku. He’s the secondary protagonist, has a pretty important mission in KH3, and since he is traveling with Mickey, the party setup is already halfway designed thanks to 0.2. (Also we need to find out what is in their suitcases /s)

As for Fantasia, they could create beautiful areas designed after 2000 since they wanted it in KH3D. Imagine a Firebird boss!


This is what I'm thinking/hoping for too. I don't get the fandom aversion to playing as Riku in KH3, he is the deuteragonist pretty much at this point in the series, and he is on a very central plot important mission with Mickey. Plus who says only one other character besides Sora can have their small playable segment in this game? I would be let down if we only got to play as 2 characters in KH3 tops.

I could totally see a small Fantasia 2000 segment or boss being playable in this game, but not an entire world's worth, as there weren't many straight up fantasy segments in that film to begin with; then again they only did use two segments of the original Fantasia in DDD.

Oracle Spockanort

January 21, 2018 @ 06:54 amOffline

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Sonicfan2525
Yeah after reading the article I can't help but get the impression that the author either got the game mixed up with 3D or they are assuming that elements like the Fantasia world and playing as Riku will carry over to KH3. I have seen gaming websites and magazines make these kinds of mistakes before, so I would assume that is the case here. That said the Fantasia world was one of the highlights of 3D for me (which is a game that I didn't even really care for) so I would love to see it return with the power and potential of the UE4.


The thing is that this is an official publication by Sony, so it is weird that they'd mess up on a detail like that.

Chaser
I’m forever salty that the beautiful field of blue flowers was not a playable section. If Fantasia were to be in KH3, I would want that area to be available.

The Firebird is the only story I know from Fantasia 2000, and that’s because everyone talks about it. Are there any other stories from the film that would beautiful translate to Kingdom Hearts 3?


SAME. They promoted it in the KH3D screenshots way back when and when I got there and the area was just a backdrop, I kind of cried inside.

[video=youtube;nMnlxYkZKaU]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMnlxYkZKaU[/video]

The metaphor speaks for itself

[video=youtube;gFanayBhyeA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFanayBhyeA[/video]

This would probably be a solid story to build from

Then this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7EBy1lBXgtE

I'm not the biggest fan of this segment, but I think it'd create some stunning visuals. (Also Nomura can have his own mini Death Stranding lol)

There are a bunch of unused things from the original Fantasia as well if they needed to fill up a Fantasia world with something.

Zettaflare

January 21, 2018 @ 07:11 amOffline

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I'm interested in what excuse they will come up with for Sora(or Kairi) to go inside a second musical themed world. Maybe while training Merlin gets trapped in a spell like Mickey and Kairi has to save him, lol.

Zul

January 21, 2018 @ 07:26 amOffline

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If this happens, I imagine it would be more like FF9 than BBS/KH3D.

At some point in time a mandatory switch to Riku happens, he finishes his short scenario(key to return hearts?) then re-unites with Sora and it continues again with Sora from there, with Riku as a possible party member. Being able to control him FF12-style would work nicely too.


EDIT: I figured it out, we will get to control them all FF12 style and Square will screw up and make Goofy too powerful so the canon story is Goofy just decides to cut a swathe of destruction in his wake.

VoidGear.

January 21, 2018 @ 07:28 amOffline

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Zul
If this happens, I imagine it would be more like FF9 than BBS/KH3D.

At some point in time a mandatory switch to Riku happens, he finishes his short scenario(key to return hearts?) then re-unites with Sora and it continues again with Sora from there, with Riku as a possible party member. Being able to control him FF12-style would work nicely too.


That would be pretty nice and by adding the Riku segment (or whoever it is) before him rejoining with Sora would also make it feel more...connected to each other.

alexis.anagram

January 21, 2018 @ 08:51 amOffline

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Swoosh
I'm interested in what excuse they will come up with for Sora(or Kairi) to go inside a second musical themed world. Maybe while training Merlin gets trapped in a spell like Mickey and Kairi has to save him, lol.

The screenshot posted earlier with the blue flowers around Yen Sid's tower makes me wonder if it isn't that the spellbook starts "leaking" elements of the Fantasia movies out somehow and they have to go inside the book to figure out what's causing the trouble. I'd like it because there could be little things scattered throughout the worlds which escaped the book and which we could go looking for and bring back to Yen Sid/the Three Faeries for rewards (like summons, new spells, new clothes? etc.).

Sora2016

January 21, 2018 @ 09:22 amOffline

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I really thought Fantasia had a lot more to offer, especially when it comes to returning worlds from the past few games, so I have personally been wanting that this whole time. I guess I dunno what the "reason" would be or if it has to be a crazy complex reason or anything like that anyway?

ImVentus

January 21, 2018 @ 11:35 amOffline

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I'm still not sure about this. If it happens to be true then that's good but I'll await for anything to be announced by SE first. By the way all the worlds for the game will be revealed this year, so it's gonna happen anyway rather soon.

I would love to play as Riku again but I do hope this time around that King Mickey will be playable at some point.

Alpha Baymax

January 21, 2018 @ 11:36 amOffline

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I just had the most insane idea to re-incorporate Fantasia for Kingdom Hearts III. What if Fantasia was the path that Mickey took to enter the Realm of Darkness? Yen Sid told Riku in 0.2 that entering the Realm of Darkness was difficult for Mickey, and yet we don't even know how he was able to do that. I wouldn't be at all surprised if we learn that Symphony of Sorcery can be used as a gateway world before Riku and Mickey enter the Realm of Darkness. Alternatively, Fantasia could be the hyperbolic time chamber that Merlin is training Kairi and Lea in.

Now on the topic of the legitimacy of this, I genuinely don't think this is a mix-up with Dream Drop Distance. For starters, Fantasia technically appeared in Kingdom Hearts II if you want to count Mysterious Tower as Fantasia, and then in Birth by Sleep, Re: Coded and extensively in Dream Drop Distance (with Fantasia as a dedicated world in that game). So no, I really don't think that the author of the paragraph would be that clumsy because that'd mean that he had no knowledge of Kingdom Hearts II.

Also, I'll refer you back to the plot summary of Kingdom Hearts III because that seems to fall in line with the split-perspective outlook: "Believing light and darkness must remain in balance, Master Xehanort seeks to spark war against the tyranny of light to restore equilibrium. In an effort to undermine Xehanort's plot, Sora, Donald and Goofy search for seven guardians of light and the Key to Return Hearts, while King Mickey and Riku search for previous Keyblade wielders. KINGDOM HEARTS III features a mature Sora as the main protagonist who sets forth on an adventure with Mickey, Donald and Goofy through new and legendary Disney worlds. KINGDOM HEARTS III will make full use of next generation console technologies to showcase a stunning universe packed full of worlds based on Disney properties".

KeybladeLordSora

January 21, 2018 @ 12:10 pmOffline

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@AlphaBaymax Mickey told Aqua how he got into the RoD in 0.2.

"Turns out, it’s not so easy getting into the realm of darkness. The points you can cross have become unstable. It’s only when a world gets consumed, that an entrance appears in the realm between. So, I waited for my chance…to sneak in."

Alpha Baymax

January 21, 2018 @ 01:03 pmOffline

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KeybladeLordSora
@AlphaBaymax Mickey told Aqua how he got into the RoD in 0.2.

"Turns out, it’s not so easy getting into the realm of darkness. The points you can cross have become unstable. It’s only when a world gets consumed, that an entrance appears in the realm between. So, I waited for my chance…to sneak in."


Oh yeah... forgot about that. Well, it wouldn't hurt to have Fantasia in this game. It'd probably be accessed either through Mysterious Tower or Disney Castle/Disney Town hence not consuming the Disney world count.

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DarkosOverlord

January 21, 2018 @ 01:14 pmOffline

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Fantasia in DDD was the first KH world that I absolutely loved since KH1, so I wouldn't oppose its return.

Zul
If this happens, I imagine it would be more like FF9 than BBS/KH3D.

At some point in time a mandatory switch to Riku happens, he finishes his short scenario(key to return hearts?) then re-unites with Sora and it continues again with Sora from there, with Riku as a possible party member. Being able to control him FF12-style would work nicely too.


This is what I've always wanted KH III to be like. It's not impossible and not that hard either, it's been a staple in many games.
That's why my most treasured hope is that, even if they don't count as "playing as" and this is why they weren't mentioned, we'd get at least a character switcharoo for endgame fights (like briefly controlling Lea with set parameters and abilities against Isa)

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Enturax

January 21, 2018 @ 03:43 pmOffline

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I'd much more prefer Lea, or Kairi for the sake of originality (they may still include them in a form of short chapter(s) or something, though). Riku feels boring to me since DDD, TBH.

FudgemintGuardian

January 21, 2018 @ 04:43 pmOffline

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My first assumption is that the editor was too lazy to do 2 minutes of research and mixed it up with DDD, but normally when I see games getting mixed up it'll just be describing the wrong game, not in combination with the correct one.

It would be pretty funny if the magazine accidentally revealed info before it's proper announcement.

Oracle Spockanort

January 21, 2018 @ 05:24 pmOffline

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redcrown
This is what I'm thinking/hoping for too. I don't get the fandom aversion to playing as Riku in KH3, he is the deuteragonist pretty much at this point in the series, and he is on a very central plot important mission with Mickey. Plus who says only one other character besides Sora can have their small playable segment in this game? I would be let down if we only got to play as 2 characters in KH3 tops.

I could totally see a small Fantasia 2000 segment or boss being playable in this game, but not an entire world's worth, as there weren't many straight up fantasy segments in that film to begin with; then again they only did use two segments of the original Fantasia in DDD.


People say he is boring to play as, but I think he has the best play style of any character in this series besides Aqua. I can’t even begin to imagine what KH3’s gameplay system combined with Riku’s play style would entail, but I can imagine all of the amazing AOE attacks and how beautiful it would look. I also want to experience combat with Riku and Mickey together. They've been traveling together for so long and we still haven't actually had them fight side-by-side in actual gameplay yet besides being able to summon Mickey in CoM.

I think a Fantasia world could easily be a series of bosses with a trippy dream-esque sequences where Sora experiences the metaphysical conflict between light and darkness as a final test of his strength (perhaps being his true final test to becoming a master since people want that so bad).

VoidGear.
That would be pretty nice and by adding the Riku segment (or whoever it is) before him rejoining with Sora would also make it feel more...connected to each other.


I think that is how any kind of segment should work in general. I could easily see the game hitting a point where SDG arrive at a point and come upon something pretty shocking with Riku being there, and the game essentially transitions––either by rewinding or just going to a black screen and saying "A few weeks ago"––and then it opens up with Riku's thoughts or narration as he and Mickey start traveling to find the lost Keyblade wielders.

Then we play through their segment, leading up to the pretty shocking moment and it transitions back to Sora. It'd be effective and wouldn't take up a whole major chunk of the game.

Also they could make it so once you finish the entire game, you can switch between Sora and Riku in each world...maybe add some little hidden dialogue bits or short cutscenes where these characters meet Riku for the first time when you switch over to him.

alexis.anagram
The screenshot posted earlier with the blue flowers around Yen Sid's tower makes me wonder if it isn't that the spellbook starts "leaking" elements of the Fantasia movies out somehow and they have to go inside the book to figure out what's causing the trouble. I'd like it because there could be little things scattered throughout the worlds which escaped the book and which we could go looking for and bring back to Yen Sid/the Three Faeries for rewards (like summons, new spells, new clothes? etc.).


That would actually be really cool. I'd love to see something like that implemented. KH3 needs a quest system, and this would be a great way to implement something like it while being in the spirit of what 0.2 introduced.

Sora2016
I really thought Fantasia had a lot more to offer, especially when it comes to returning worlds from the past few games, so I have personally been wanting that this whole time. I guess I dunno what the "reason" would be or if it has to be a crazy complex reason or anything like that anyway?


I don't think there needs to be a "reason". Nomura and the dev team have chosen worlds for these games with little more reason than "it'd be interesting to see".

Enturax
I'd much more prefer Lea, or Kairi for the sake of originality (they may still include them in a form of short chapter(s) or something, though). Riku feels boring to me since DDD, TBH.


I think they could easily include other character. Riku has an interesting journey ahead of him, and I think it would be a waste to ignore it like KH2 ignored Axel, Namine, and Riku's story.

FudgemintGuardian
My first assumption is that the editor was too lazy to do 2 minutes of research and mixed it up with DDD, but normally when I see games getting mixed up it'll just be describing the wrong game, not in combination with the correct one.

It would be pretty funny if the magazine accidentally revealed info before it's proper announcement.


Yeah, they literally have 2/3 of that blurb correct, so it would be really weird if they chose that moment to not fact check anything else before approving it.

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UltimaXOmega

January 21, 2018 @ 05:57 pmOffline

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This game is sounding more and more boring world wise.
Where's the surprising worlds?
Toy Story?
That was pretty much as likely as Frozen from the beginning.

Neo_GFX

January 21, 2018 @ 06:16 pmOffline

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UltimaXOmega
This game is sounding more and more boring world wise.
Where's the surprising worlds?
Toy Story?
That was pretty much as likely as Frozen from the beginning.

Fantasia is surprising, millions of people (including Nomura) have wanted Toy Story to be a world since the first game, there is no way Frozen will not be a world and the surprising worlds haven't been revealed yet.

Oracle Spockanort

January 21, 2018 @ 06:37 pmOffline

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UltimaXOmega
This game is sounding more and more boring world wise.
Where's the surprising worlds?
Toy Story?
That was pretty much as likely as Frozen from the beginning.


Fantasia is surprising, bro. If this isn't a mistake, people thought that Fantasia would be limited to KH3D since there isn't a lot of grounded story to work with.

Toy Story was surprising because they've been trying to get that in since KH1 and it's always missed the mark.

Monsters Inc. is surprising because everybody thought they hit their Pixar quota with Toy Story.

We've still got a ton of worlds to go, too.

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UltimaXOmega

January 21, 2018 @ 06:48 pmOffline

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Fantasia is not surprising.
Toy Story was obvious af.
Monsters Inc is sort of surprising.
We have like 3 more new worlds.

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mario9785ify

January 21, 2018 @ 06:49 pmOffline

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I had an idea that every 3 worlds or so you would switch to another character and play a adamant as them like riku, Kairi, lea, etc, and maybe later on if numora wants to he can add a multiplayer mission mode like in days as dlc or in an update.

Zettaflare

January 21, 2018 @ 07:17 pmOffline

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What i love love is that SDG (Or whoever else is doing the world) to stay silent during the segments. I know they did that during combat in DDD, but I felt Sora, Riku, and YX should have been silent during cutscenes as well. They can easily convey emotions through facial expressions.

Alpha Baymax

January 21, 2018 @ 08:05 pmOffline

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UltimaXOmega
Fantasia is not surprising.
Toy Story was obvious af.
Monsters Inc is sort of surprising.
We have like 3 more new worlds.




...Well aren't you a debby downer. And you literally have no proof in saying that we have "three more new worlds". Seriously, you have absolutely no basis for your arguments.

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DarkosOverlord

January 21, 2018 @ 08:46 pmOffline

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UltimaXOmega
Fantasia is not surprising.
Toy Story was obvious af.
Monsters Inc is sort of surprising.
We have like 3 more new worlds.


I'd be surprised by Fantasia. Why would your unsurprise be better or worth more than my surprise?
Toy Story was teased yet denied so many times that I think it could've gone either way: we knew it was always in consideration, but never had the certainty it was going to be a thing. And with it, the other Pixar movies.
I'd say Monsters Inc was indeed surprising for most.

Who knows how many more worlds we'll have. And even if, we already have two surprising worlds, San Fransokyo and finally the confirmation Pixar movies can happen.
I'd say KH III is up to a good start for not being boring on this front.

Elysium

January 21, 2018 @ 09:23 pmOffline

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OMG, I SO hope this is true. I would love if most of the games from here were split between Riku and Sora like CoM and 3D. I’d also love to see Fantasia again. Win win!

Chaser

January 21, 2018 @ 09:46 pmOffline

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UltimaXOmega
Fantasia is not surprising.
Toy Story was obvious af.
Monsters Inc is sort of surprising.
We have like 3 more new worlds.

Fantasia is surprising as the only non-recent Disney film added to KH3 is Olympus Coliseum. It’s surprising that we might return there in some capacity, if it isn’t just Yen Sid’s Tower.
Toy Story was surprising. No one was expecting it to be revealed at D23. Sure, it was long overdue to be added to the series but watch any video of that D23 reveal and you will see everyone there was surprised.

Would the only thing that would actually make you happy at this time be if Nomura outright said Eraqus is playable and Shibuya is a world?

Awesome Psycho

January 21, 2018 @ 09:59 pmOffline

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UltimaXOmega
This game is sounding more and more boring world wise.
Where's the surprising worlds?
Toy Story?
That was pretty much as likely as Frozen from the beginning.


Yeah this game is gonna suck because we don’t have any surprising worlds(even though they haven’t shown the full roster) And I bet they’re boring too! :mad:

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UltimaXOmega

January 21, 2018 @ 10:10 pmOffline

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Chaser
Fantasia is surprising as the only non-recent Disney film added to KH3 is Olympus Coliseum. It’s surprising that we might return there in some capacity, if it isn’t just Yen Sid’s Tower.
Toy Story was surprising. No one was expecting it to be revealed at D23. Sure, it was long overdue to be added to the series but watch any video of that D23 reveal and you will see everyone there was surprised.

Would the only thing that would actually make you happy at this time be if Nomura outright said Eraqus is playable and Shibuya is a world?

Star Wars,Marvel,Incredibles,Gargoyles etc.
Treasure Planet even would be surprising since it's a niche classic.
Monsters Inc has been the only surprising world.
Maybe BH6 too.

catcake

January 21, 2018 @ 10:16 pmOffline

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UltimaXOmega
Star Wars,Marvel,Incredibles,Gargoyles etc.
Treasure Planet even would be surprising since it's a niche classic.
Monsters Inc has been the only surprising world.
Maybe BH6 too.


This is just me, but I'd rather have worlds that go well with KH and fit the game well, even if they end up being "unsurprising" and safe choices. There's a reason why Toy Story was an easy guess. Because it makes sense. It fits. People love it, it's about time we have it. I don't think that's a bad thing at all. Choosing a world purely for element of surprise sounds like the bad move to me, if anything. And well, I definitely didn't see Monsters Inc coming. Out of the worlds we know so far, already having one surprise is pretty good in my opinion, especially when it's still a good one that I feel fits.

Neo_GFX

January 21, 2018 @ 10:18 pmOffline

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UltimaXOmega
Fantasia is not surprising.
Toy Story was obvious af.
Monsters Inc is sort of surprising.
We have like 3 more new worlds.

In the context of this being the "big dog" game, Fantasia is surprising, though if it is just a stop for Riku and Mickey, then I agree it isn't that surprising.

Toy Story was obvious... who cares? I still don't get your point. They aren't going to not include worlds in the game because they're "too mainstream". Since everyone else is saying otherwise though, I agree that Toy Story was super obvious, and as my most-wanted world, I'm happy it's in. :smile:

Why do worlds need to be surprising to be in the game? If you're taking them at that alone, then that's a pretty bad prerequisite.

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notnow123487

January 21, 2018 @ 10:19 pmOffline

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A couple things based on the assumption this is true. I’m not concerned with Riku being the other playable character because you know the dlc is going to be what the other main characters are doing while Sora is off. There’s gonna be a dlc episode with Lea and Kairi becoming best friends and a prelude episode with young xehanort and eraqus which will end up being the teaser for KH4 or whatever the next trilogy is..assuming that’s not in the game, I know Nomura said the chess scene is the opening scene.

For the worlds of this is true, there aren’t many other Disney worlds to be revealed if all the rumors are true:
San Fransokyo
Toy Story
Olympus
Tangled
Monsters Inc.
Fantasia
100 Acre Wood
Frozen (rumored/assumed)

If that’s all true, there’s max of three Disney worlds we don’t know about now, but honestly I think it’s more like 1-2. These are 3-5 hour worlds so there’s not going to be that much. I don’t get the people complaining, I think it’s a good list so far overall obviously there’s other worlds I would prefer, but I’m content. But refute the people complaining with the worlds we know since it’s most of the roster at this point, not “stop complaining we don’t even have a full roster yet.”

Plus if the Riku storyline is true, we have:
Realm of Darkness (why wouldn’t they reuse the assets)
Castle Oblivion or wherever Ven is I’m blanking

Plus:
Twilight Town

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DarkosOverlord

January 21, 2018 @ 10:52 pmOffline

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So apparently anything non-Disney movie and/or made by a second party is surprising, therefore worthy of being in an otherwise boring KH III.

I am so hoping KH III will turn out to be the most boring game in existance then.

KeybladeLordSora

January 21, 2018 @ 11:02 pmOffline

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UltimaXOmega
Star Wars,Marvel,Incredibles,Gargoyles etc.
Treasure Planet even would be surprising since it's a niche classic.
Monsters Inc has been the only surprising world.
Maybe BH6 too.
You think Star Wars and Marvel would be surprising? People keep thinking they'll obviously be in KH3. Some even think it's flat out confirmed. So no, those won't be surprising.

Toy Story is surprising. First ever Pixar world.

Monsters Inc is surprising. They aren't doing only one.

Fantasia is surprising. It would be a returning world/new world depending on if it's Fantasia 2000.

Ya know what else would be surprising? Fullmetal Alchemist in KH3.

VoidGear.

January 21, 2018 @ 11:26 pmOffline

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Fullmetal Alchemist in KH3.


Me: OMG YES ME TOO.
Also me: Wait, this isn't the KH3 hopes thread.
[strike]Edward finally wouldn't have to feel short around these minis[/strike]

I wasn't really surprised by either Monsters Inc. or Toy Story, as both somehow make sense, but like catcake said, I'll take an "obvious" good world over a bad surprise.
Cause Nomura is really good with bad surprises.

Neo_GFX

January 21, 2018 @ 11:27 pmOffline

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Toy Story is not surprising; Nomura has wanted it since KH1 (there is concept art of it on the world map) and this is the first proper game it can actually be included in (wouldn't have really made sense in DDD or BBS).

OathkeeperRoxas XIII

January 21, 2018 @ 11:29 pmOffline

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KeybladeLordSora
You think Star Wars and Marvel would be surprising? People keep thinking they'll obviously be in KH3. Some even think it's flat out confirmed. So no, those won't be surprising.

Toy Story is surprising. First ever Pixar world.

Monsters Inc is surprising. They aren't doing only one.

Fantasia is surprising. It would be a returning world/new world depending on if it's Fantasia 2000.

Ya know what else would be surprising? Fullmetal Alchemist in KH3.


I still sell a arm and leg for that, I think they (SE) have some royalies to Brotherhood

Noir

January 21, 2018 @ 11:30 pmOffline

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I want Riku to team up with the giant slug lady from monsters Inc personally.
And Mrs Nesbit from Toy Story. With a new hat.

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UltimaXOmega

January 22, 2018 @ 12:11 amOffline

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I'm 90% sure Star Wars and Marvel aren't in.
This is coming from somebody wants them the most.

ghostwarmen

January 22, 2018 @ 01:06 amOffline

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notnow123487
These are 3-5 hour worlds so there’s not going to be that much. I don’t get the people complaining, I think it’s a good list so far overall obviously there’s other worlds I would prefer, but I’m content.

Where did those numbers come from? I've heard nothing of these worlds being 3-5 hours long. I know Nomura said 0.2 was the length of a KH3 world, but then he went back on it saying it was longer than he realized. Or am I missing something?

meep2meep

January 22, 2018 @ 01:41 amOffline

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As of right now this is all speculation... but plz oh god, chernabog I love you buddy but please not again! I don't think I could fight you a third time....

Sora2016

January 22, 2018 @ 01:43 amOffline

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meep2meep
As of right now this is all speculation... but plz oh god, chernabog I love you buddy but please not again! I don't think I could fight you a third time....


The second one was a glorified mini-game lol, he kinda deserves a redemption due to that alone ha. That being said, as others have pointed out, the Firebird could make a good new boss instead anyway.

meep2meep

January 22, 2018 @ 01:48 amOffline

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Sora2016
The second one was a glorified mini-game lol, he kinda deserves a redemption due to that alone ha. That being said, as others have pointed out, the Firebird could make a good new boss instead anyway.


Square has a habit of re-using bosses... like how many times are we going to fight Darkside lol. Omg fighting him on critical made me want to pull my hair out.
Firebird would make for a cool boss... I just really hate bosses that are huge who I have to chase after.

Sally-boiii

January 22, 2018 @ 01:58 amOffline

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Oracle Spockanort
I think the editor either didn’t do his research (which wouldn’t be surprising considering how much people actually care about KH at these publications) or accidentally dropped some info before it was supposed to be revealed.

As it stands, I wouldn’t be surprised if there was a segment where we play as Riku. He’s the secondary protagonist, has a pretty important mission in KH3, and since he is traveling with Mickey, the party setup is already halfway designed thanks to 0.2. (Also we need to find out what is in their suitcases /s)

As for Fantasia, they could create beautiful areas designed after 2000 since they wanted it in KH3D. Imagine a Firebird boss!



Haven't you heard, it's their dank dank vests (vestments). Yen Sid said so. XD

Unless your question was what do they look like specifically? If so, then my bad.

Oracle Spockanort

January 22, 2018 @ 03:17 amOffline

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Sally-boiii
Haven't you heard, it's their dank dank vests (vestments). Yen Sid said so. XD

Unless your question was what do they look like specifically? If so, then my bad.


Yeah, that was what I meant lol I’ve been hyped about their new costumes for awhile.

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kingsoraful

January 22, 2018 @ 05:43 amOffline

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I'd like this rumor to be true only to debunk that dumb Shibuya stuff. Original Worlds and Disney Worlds Only and with this it puts us at 3-4 more worlds left. This has less Disney worlds then KH 2 which had 12. KH had 10. So we're looking at 10-11 Disney Worlds so we still got 3-4

And I personally want The Jungle Book especially if since it's a title Namura has wanted since KH 1. Plus we need to get some old school Disney up in here, right now the new worlds are mostly from recent Disney films. We should get The Jungle Book.

Oracle Spockanort

January 22, 2018 @ 06:10 amOffline

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OathkeeperRoxas XIII
I still sell a arm and leg for that, I think they (SE) have some royalies to Brotherhood


Royalties? They own the franchise lol Gangan IS Square Enix and they published the series, so it is theirs.

Same goes for stuff like Black Butler, Soul Eater, Pandora Hearts, and so many other series. The only things they don’t own are properties that existed before their manga adaption.

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UltimaXOmega

January 22, 2018 @ 06:12 amOffline

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kingsoraful
I'd like this rumor to be true only to debunk that dumb Shibuya stuff. Original Worlds and Disney Worlds Only and with this it puts us at 3-4 more worlds left. This has less Disney worlds then KH 2 which had 12. KH had 10. So we're looking at 10-11 Disney Worlds so we still got 3-4

And I personally want The Jungle Book especially if since it's a title Namura has wanted since KH 1. Plus we need to get some old school Disney up in here, right now the new worlds are mostly from recent Disney films. We should get The Jungle Book.

Jungle Book would be bland and a waste.
Treasure Planet and Gargoyles were also planned and would be much better.

Chaser

January 22, 2018 @ 06:26 amOffline

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UltimaXOmega
Jungle Book would be bland and a waste.
Treasure Planet and Gargoyles were also planned and would be much better.

Jungle Book wouldn't be bland nor a waste. A vibrant jungle in Unreal Engine 4 would be beautiful. King Louie's throne room would shine with gorgeous detail and the atmospheric noise of the jungle would be just gorgeous to listen to.

I don't agree with Gargoyles, but I do agree with Treasure Planet, which I am so thankful for because I was worrying that I was going to disagree with everything that you say.

Treasure Planet would work wonderfully with that portal (it's been a long time since I watched the movie), and they'd have the potential to include Zidane, Balthier, and Fran in a non-original world. Having FF outside of Olympus and original worlds would be so refreshing.

DefiantHeart

January 22, 2018 @ 02:30 pmOffline

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Honestly, idk. Riku has been playable multiple times already, so I'm hoping if he is playable, that he's not the only one and Kairi is included... tired of just playing as those two for the majority of the kh series. Fantasia has been mentioned as a sleeping world, but Sora and Riku "woke it up" along with those other sleeping worlds in ddd, so it's still possible we'll go back there in kh 3, possibly seeing parts of Fantasia that were left out.

FudgemintGuardian

January 22, 2018 @ 03:00 pmOffline

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kingsoraful
I'd like this rumor to be true only to debunk that dumb Shibuya stuff. Original Worlds and Disney Worlds Only and with this it puts us at 3-4 more worlds left. This has less Disney worlds then KH 2 which had 12. KH had 10. So we're looking at 10-11 Disney Worlds so we still got 3-4

And I personally want The Jungle Book especially if since it's a title Namura has wanted since KH 1. Plus we need to get some old school Disney up in here, right now the new worlds are mostly from recent Disney films. We should get The Jungle Book.
We might have a loophole with the Pixar worlds where they may not count as Disney, so there's a small chance we could get something like say, 11 Disney, 2 Pixar, and 7 original (I have a mighty need for 20 worlds okay?)

But yes, more older Disney properties please!

Elysium

January 22, 2018 @ 06:50 pmOffline

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kingsoraful
I'd like this rumor to be true only to debunk that dumb Shibuya stuff. Original Worlds and Disney Worlds Only and with this it puts us at 3-4 more worlds left. This has less Disney worlds then KH 2 which had 12. KH had 10. So we're looking at 10-11 Disney Worlds so we still got 3-4

And I personally want The Jungle Book especially if since it's a title Namura has wanted since KH 1. Plus we need to get some old school Disney up in here, right now the new worlds are mostly from recent Disney films. We should get The Jungle Book.


I’d much rather a FF or Shibuya world over Star Wars/Marvel, that's for sure.

I agree about needing some old Disney. We have one '90s world and a slew of 2000's and 2010's films. Another reason Fantasia would be great.

WhinyAcademic

January 22, 2018 @ 07:47 pmOffline

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Give me a next gen boss battle with Chernabog or the Firebird

redcrown

January 23, 2018 @ 08:31 amOffline

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Tartarus
I’d much rather a FF or Shibuya world over Star Wars/Marvel, that's for sure.

I agree about needing some old Disney. We have one '90s world and a slew of 2000's and 2010's films. Another reason Fantasia would be great.


Agree on both counts. Lately I haven't been super hyped for KH3 because I assumed it's mostly going to pander to younger audiences with more modern movies (like seriously I might be slightly annoyed if Moana gets in over all the unused classics, save it for the next saga). But this possible world reveal (plus Shibuya being possible) is restoring my excitement for what KH3 might offer us old folks.

On the note of DDD worlds returning because they've woken from their sleep, it makes me wonder if HoND might make an appearance in KH3 or the next saga. It was very fun and immersive world to play in DDD, but the characters and story potential for it were completely squandered. Then again I get the feeling most fans are bit burned out of that world/film for the moment being.

VoidGear.

January 23, 2018 @ 09:28 amOffline

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redcrown

On the note of DDD worlds returning because they've woken from their sleep, it makes me wonder if HoND might make an appearance in KH3 or the next saga. It was very fun and immersive world to play in DDD, but the characters and story potential for it were completely squandered. Then again I get the feeling most fans are bit burned out of that world/film for the moment being.


Burned out like Frollo?? [strike]Sorry[/strike]
While I didn't think the world was fun, that's probably because I despise 3D. In either way, the world really didn't do the characters any justice, so I wouldn't entirely mind seeing it again. I just wonder if it wouldn't look repetitive in environments.

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DarkosOverlord

January 23, 2018 @ 09:52 amOffline

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VoidGear.
Burned out like Frollo?? [strike]Sorry[/strike]


It's okay, he'll take the fall.

VoidGear.
While I didn't think the world was fun, that's probably because I despise 3D. In either way, the world really didn't do the characters any justice, so I wouldn't entirely mind seeing it again. I just wonder if it wouldn't look repetitive in environments.


The only thing I cared for was jumping down the cathedral all the way to the streets imagining both Sora and Riku screaming "weeeeee" in the process.
I could see the world being fun, but only if they give me a KH1 Traverse Town level of exploration.
Then again, at that point I'd just want Traverse Town.

Alpha Baymax

January 23, 2018 @ 11:57 amOffline

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redcrown
On the note of DDD worlds returning because they've woken from their sleep, it makes me wonder if HoND might make an appearance in KH3 or the next saga. It was very fun and immersive world to play in DDD, but the characters and story potential for it were completely squandered. Then again I get the feeling most fans are bit burned out of that world/film for the moment being.


I've always had a theory that a playable Kingdom Hearts Union X HD is going to be the next console Kingdom Hearts title after Kingdom Hearts III. The Hunchback of Notre Dame seems to be a traditional Fairy Tale world so I wouldn't be at all surprised if it's eventually in Union X (and it's hypothetical remake). This also leads me to believe that we won't be seeing the Princess of Heart worlds outside Agrabah (for King of Thieves obviously).

I'm all for the return of The Hunchback of Notre Dame, but when you really think about it, Nomura did mention that Kingdom Hearts 3D was originally a part of Kingdom Hearts III's early draft before it was segmented into Dream Drop Distance. Nomura must have had his reason to add that world for 3D as oppose to saving it for Kingdom Hearts III.

But going back to Fantasia, I echo everyone else in saying that it's entirely possible because there were unused areas from the original and 2000.

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horto12485

January 23, 2018 @ 05:18 pmOffline

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FudgemintGuardian
We might have a loophole with the Pixar worlds where they may not count as Disney, so there's a small chance we could get something like say, 11 Disney, 2 Pixar, and 7 original (I have a mighty need for 20 worlds okay?)

But yes, more older Disney properties please!


I agree we need more Older Disney Properties to appear in the KH Games Series (Like Jungle Book, Treasure Planet, Pocahontas, Atlantis, Robin Hood ETC)

Alpha Baymax

January 28, 2018 @ 11:35 amOffline

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I find it funny that this has yet to be clarified by PlayStation Magazine. Pretty sure the viral response to this news should have gotten PlayStation magazine to issue some sort of follow up statement if they "made an error".

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Vasquez

January 29, 2018 @ 05:24 pmOffline

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-Nomura said he was surprised Riku wasn't more popular and was going to do something about it.
-The 0.2 ending sets clear missions for the both of them and focuses on them equally.
-Riku has been the dual protagonist for years now anyway.

It would be odd if he wasn't playable to a major degree in KH3.

redcrown

January 30, 2018 @ 09:55 pmOffline

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Vasquez
-Nomura said he was surprised Riku wasn't more popular and was going to do something about it.


In Japan he isn't as popular, which is where the poll was done IICR. I've had the vibe he's more popular in the West, we love us some anti heroes with dark sides trying to atone their pasts.

Alpha Baymax
I find it funny that this has yet to be clarified by PlayStation Magazine. Pretty sure the viral response to this news should have gotten PlayStation magazine to issue some sort of follow up statement if they "made an error".


I'm surprised too, but I can see why. They confirm it's fake or mistaken from DDD, it implies neither will happen in KH3 even if part of the rumor is true; they confirm it's true and it spoils the KH3 showcase in February or Summer.

That or KH is not popular enough atm to gain enough heat and pressure for a demanded correction from the article.

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Scorseselover

January 30, 2018 @ 10:11 pmOffline

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I’m all for bringing back Fantasia. It looked good on 3DS but console is where they’ll make it more epic. I hope the fight with Chernabog is a little more well handled unlike the first one and Dream Drop Distance.

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julian14bernardi

February 2, 2018 @ 04:56 amOffline

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Well... I'm all for playing as Riku. I played DDD in my 3DS for a long time. And I hope this time he'll have King Mickey as a party member. I hope Riku and the King should go to Disney worlds first. Then, they should head for the realm of darkness to save Aqua.

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