Erase?

[Memory Master]

I think erase refers to erased from existence.

If you don't existence, it's like you were never born. Thus unbirth.

To Karate: The realm of nothingness is not a product of nobodies. This was never stated.

 

[Genocide]

I think erase refers to erased from existence.

If you don't existence, it's like you were never born. Thus unbirth.

Then how does that separate them from nobodies?

 

[Hikari~keyblader]

I think erase refers to erased from existence.

If you don't existence, it's like you were never born. Thus unbirth.

Memory master makes a point. if you dont exist you are never born for all intents and purposes.

 

[Genocide]

That's untrue.
Nobodies don't exist.

 

[Hikari~keyblader]

That's untrue.
Nobodies don't exist.

point taken Karate. but it's kind of like their somebodies dont exist. sort of...

 

[royaljminnis]

–What of the enemies called “unbirths”?

Nomura: There is meaning in various ways, adding “un” creates the opposite meaning of “birth” thus the “unbirth”. With this, the “unborn” is given real meaning. Unbirths designate the feeling of this game’s motif. The kind of existence they have will be revealed soon.

Well that's what A Nomura interview said I don't know if that's the one he's talking about.
Anyways going of that big bold part there. Here are the definitions for Unborn.

Uborn:

1. not yet born; yet to come; future: unborn generations.
2. not yet delivered; still existing in the mother's womb: an unborn baby.
3. existing without birth or beginning.

yup short and simple.

 

[Memory Master]

Then how does that separate them from nobodies?
And nobodies exist within the Twilght Realm.

Nobodies are'nt nothingness. They are a body and soul, and we know a body and soul are not nothing. They have no heart, therefore they have no light or dark and exist within the twilight. They are called nobodies because they have no identity, no heart.

But unbirths are truly nothingness, a person who has been erased from existence. If you don't exist, then it's like you were never born, thus unbirth.

 

[Hikari~keyblader]

Well that's what A Nomura interview said I don't know if that's the one he's talking about.
Anyways going of that big bold part there. Here are the definitions for Unborn.

Uborn:

1. not yet born; yet to come; future: unborn generations.
2. not yet delivered; still existing in the mother's womb: an unborn baby.
3. existing without birth or beginning.

yup short and simple.

the bold part, maybe they are called unborn because they are the future? like, they are the basis for Heartless right? so they are the future of what will come after this ordeal is done or it TAV fails to stop them?

 

[Insomniac]

It seems to me that it the name Unbirth does continue the same pattern as the Heartless and Nobodies. The Heartless have Heartless behavior having no remorse or thought process but, behavior based on instinct. The Nobodies lack identity thus making them Nobody because their lack of a Heart. The Unbirths have been said to move rapidly and have a wild behavior which seems to me like a regression in the sense of evelution. They seem to have reverted back to a much more primitive state.

This.

The name Unbirth doesn't have to mean that the actual birth of someone was revesed but, possibly there behavior. It seems like it will continue the same pattern the Heartless and Nobodies names have. The meaning of the name reflects the behavior of the being not the conditions under wich it is born.

 

[Hikari~keyblader]

This.

The name Unbirth doesn't have to mean that the actual birth of someone was revesed but, possibly there behavior. It seems like it will continue the same pattern the Heartless and Nobodies names have. The meaning of the name reflects the behavior of the being not the conditions under wich it is born.

if that's true, what part of an Unbirth's behaviour reflects it's name?

 

[Memory Master]

This.

The name Unbirth doesn't have to mean that the actual birth of someone was revesed but, possibly there behavior. It seems like it will continue the same pattern the Heartless and Nobodies names have. The meaning of the name reflects the behavior of the being not the conditions under wich it is born.

But Nomura said that the name Unbirth was given real meaning. So it is to be taken literaly.

 

[Hikari~keyblader]

so, if the name were to be taken literally, what would that mean? the unbirths are either created by reversing birth or.... what?

 

[Memory Master]

so, if the name were to be taken literally, what would that mean? the unbirths are either created by reversing birth or.... what?

Exactly reverse birth = Erased. Erased = unbirth.

> Go to go, lets continue this later. <

 

[Hikari~keyblader]

bye memory master! and that makes a bit of sense. to be erased is to become an unbirth.
sorry gotta go as well. i'll return later!

 

[royaljminnis]

Exactly reverse birth = Erased. Erased = unbirth.

> Go to go, lets continue this later. <

Lol but the way your using Unbirth is in away so that you can support your claim.
I could just as easily say the term Unbirth applies to Unborn memories or unborn dreams.
Thus subustantiating the title birth by sleep. Unborn nightmares = Unbirth etc.

 

[SKRVAT]

didn't Ven ask Aqua to erase hiim, not Terra?

 

[Smile]

Lol but the way your using Unbirth is in away so that you can support your claim.
I could just as easily say the term Unbirth applies to Unborn memories or unborn dreams.
Thus subustantiating the title birth by sleep. Unborn nightmares = Unbirth etc.

http://forums.khinsider.com/future-kingdom-hearts/111745-dream-little-dream-unbirth-theory.html
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didn't Ven ask Aqua to erase hiim, not Terra?

He did indeed. It's Aqua's shadow we see next to him.

 

[royaljminnis]

http://forums.khinsider.com/future-kingdom-hearts/111745-dream-little-dream-unbirth-theory.html
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inb4u by three months!



He did indeed. It's Aqua's shadow we see next to him.

LMAO who do you think I got that crazy Idea from :*).

I remembered it from way back when I also commented on it to REMEMBER?

 

[Smile]

Fawk no, it's three months ago

 

[royaljminnis]

LMAO Yea we somehow ended up talking about Pure Bloods (heartless) not releasing hearts, but you stopped replying so *meh.