The Top 10 Disney Franchises that Should Be Kingdom Hearts Worlds
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- Published on November 6, 2012 @ 04:27 am
- Written by Taylor
As more and more Kingdom Hearts games are being made, Disney and Square Enix are working together to think of more Disney-inspired worlds to grace the playable stage of the series. Games like Kingdom Hearts Birth by Sleep and Kingdom Hearts 3D are actively trying to utilize Disney movies to create new worlds that haven’t already been ruined (coughHerculescough), and that’s a good idea. But with such a wide variety of worlds left to use under the Disney license, what worlds could and should be used? Luckily, I’m here to help them, so without further ado, here are my top 10 Disney franchises that should be made into Kingdom Hearts worlds.
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1. The Jungle Book
I feel like this one is so very obvious. If worlds like The Lion King and The Little Mermaid can exist, transforming Sora into a lion or, worse, a merman, then surely a jungle-themed world where humans are present could work just as well. You could be like Sora in small orange underpants. Imagine running around the dense jungle with Baloo at your side, just tearing everything up. It would be cool. And hey, considering the Jungle Book was almost a world in Birth by Sleep, it’s not all that farfetched that we could see it in a future installment.
2. Lilo & Stitch
“BUT TAYLOR THEY ALREADY HAD LILO AND STITCH IN BBS IT WAS CALLED DEEP SPACE!!!!” NO SHUT UP I DON’T NEED YOUR SASS. Deep Space was not what I wanted out of the Lilo & Stitch franchise. I wanted a Hawaii-inspired level that had both Stitch and Lilo. Remember that very serene-looking background in the Stitch summon from Kingdom Hearts II? I wanted that. It was beautiful, and I want to save an alien-invested Hawaii from the bad guys. And so do you. Just think about it for a second.
3. The Black Cauldron
Okay, this one feels a little iffy to me. I mean, I always enjoyed this movie as a kid, but I now know that it’s actually a pretty mediocre film, was poorly-received at the box office, and was almost solely responsible for a huge lack of faith in the Disney Animation Studios. Okay. That’s not that bad. Considering that Sora may be spending a little too much time with Pooh and Ariel, I think a brief venture to the world of The Black Cauldron might actually be healthy. Darker worlds have always been interesting for the series, and handled well, this piece-of-poop movie could be turned into a fantastically refreshing experience.
4. The Rescuers Down Under
I feel like a world based in the universe of The Rescuers could be very similar to Cinderella’s world in Birth by Sleep: you’d be shrunk down to tiny size to fight alongside the detective rats of the Rescue Aid Society. What if Mickey met Bernard? I dunno, maybe they’d get along. His world has the opportunity to be far more action-oriented, and that could be something that, once again, the series could really use. I’ve always got the impression that The Rescuers franchise is a bit underrated, and maybe it needs some 21st century loving to get back on the right track to recognition.
5. Toy Story
Easy stuff, right? When the Buzz and Woody models were leaked for Kingdom Hearts II Final Mix, I think most people got really excited. Finally, a subtle confirmation that Pixar movies, or at least characters, might join the world cast of Kingdom Hearts. And then Kingdom Hearts 3D came and passed without any hint of Pixar. So what happened? I would theorize that Square Enix is waiting for something bigger and better…something like Kingdom Hearts III perchance? Surely Pixar’s biggest and greatest franchise would make an appearance in the next major installment. Imagine fighting besides Woody and Buzz against Sid, Zerg, and that really weird chicken man from the second movie. Also, riding Bullseye. Ball’s in your court, Square.
6. The Incredibles
Alright, alright, I know what you might be thinking: “Taylor, the Incredibles was a comparatively weak movie when stacked up against other Pixar movies.” Okay, first and foremost, no. That movie was fantastic and I’ll gentlemen’s duel you into submission if you disagree. But let’s not get into semantics; let’s both be gentlemen and simply conclude that you’re wrong and I’m right. Moving on. In the colorful cast that we call Pixar movies, The Incredibles is action-packed, vibrant, and has the possibly of offering multiple different areas, like the city, the island, or Syndrome’s secret headquarters. And hey, given the inclusion of real humans, doesn’t The Incredibles just seem much more plausible than something like Finding Nemo?
7. Finding Nemo
Just kidding.
7. Up
I don’t want to have to explain this one because I think it’s very obvious why this should be a world in the next Kingdom Hearts. The scenery is varied and colorful, the characters are gripping and easy to mesh with, and the villains are prevalent and probably really easy to tie into the story. Heck, imagine comparing Carl’s journey to Sora’s original journey. The emotional tension would be unbearable. I might cry. I’m crying right now. Just leave me alone and move on.
8. Tangled
Why ride Bullseye when you can ride Maximus (because Bullseye is a toy and that is awesome)? The world of Tangled is like the world of old Disney princess films, except not in 2D. And that’s really cool. Also, imagine all the stuff they actually do in Tangled: they escape the tower, party at the Snuggly Duckling, collapse a dam, and then invade the same tower and fight to the death (literally) with that creepy not-mom mom witch lady. Now imagine if Sora was there. Also Goofy and Donald. Enough motivation for me.
9. Wreck-It Ralph
Look, I just saw this film and I’m really in love with it right now. I might always be. The in-movie in-game (…what?) environments of Hero’s Duty and Sugar Rush would be fantastic locations for the Kingdom Hearts crew to explore. And, not to spoil, the enemies and main villain would be so easy to incorporate into the mix. Considering the content in Wreck-It Ralph, I’m actually surprised that Kingdom Hearts didn’t grace the screen even once. If Disney and Square can work together to recreate the beautiful world of Wreck-It Ralph for Kingdom Hearts III, I might actually buy it just for that (probably not, but maybe (disregard that)).
10. Who Framed Roger Rabbit?
Yep. Why not? This movie is easily one of the greatest movies to be released for animation. It was simply groundbreaking for its time, it single-handedly jumpstarted the interest in the Golden Age of Animation again, and it is still incredibly impressive even by today's standards. Roger fighting besides you would be amazing. I don’t even care if they couldn’t even persuade the Warner Brothers to let them use Looney Toons characters (yes I do). Every part of this movie is charming, and I think Sora and company would fit in really well to the half-realistic, half-cartoon world present in this movie. The villains could easily be threatening to the entire Kingdom Hearts universe as well, and I think that every bit of this film could tie in to the adventures of Sora. Suddenly, Sora is the new detective trying to prove Roger’s innocence. That’d be interesting. I don’t know why this franchise has remained buried for years (after the failed sequel that never saw the light of day), but I’d like to see a fresh gust of air breathed into this series once more.
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Well, there you have it, gents. I would be more than happy to play a game that brilliantly handled all the above-mentioned worlds. I know that some of you might be wondering where other worlds are, but I tried my best to create a varied, exciting, and colorful mix of different worlds. With all these worlds, there’s no way that Kingdom Hearts III could be anything short of fantastic.
I mean, unless they used the Top 10 WORST Disney franchises….
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I think Treasure Planet and Atlantis deserve a spot. Treasure planet especially.
Can't you imagine Sora doing this? Treasure Planet - Solar Surfing. - YouTube
I'd have to agree that Bolt and Brave would be nice. I'd imagine that 'changing your fate' would fit snugly with KHIII.
Treasure planet would be an interesting world, and a nice place to play around in.
I do plan on making a future "What 10 Worlds Should Never Be in KH", and maybe you'll see some of my reasoning for franchises that didn't make it on this list.
But I do admit, there a lot of franchises that I would have liked to add to this list. Brave was the closest to making it on, for sure.
I could imagine that the "What 10 Worlds Should Never Be in KH" will be equally hard to make... I mean, there'd be so many.
I think Treasure Planet and Atlantis deserve a spot. Treasure planet especially.
Can't you imagine Sora doing this? Treasure Planet - Solar Surfing. - YouTube
Both of those are worlds I could really see in KH .. While some others, like "Who Framed Roger Rabbit" is one of those I really could not <.<
You're missing a few good ones from this list.
- The Sword in the Stone
A world based on this movie would fit perfectly into KH! I mean Merlin has been there from the beginning.
- Robin Hood
A Robin Hood world would be very easy to adapt into KH. The animal characters fit well in relation to worlds such as Lion King and The Jungle Book (if they include it).
- Pocahontas
This basically speaks for itself. I really don't know why it's taken them so long to incorporate this world!
- The Emperor's New Groove
This ones a bit of a toss up. I'm sure they could find a way to make it work... And having Sora and Co. turn into various animal versions because of potions would just be amazing!
And last one that I'll just put out there. Continuing with the trend of animals in the KH universe -
- Monsters Inc.
Although not technically animals - these characters would be very easy to incorporate into KH because of their bright colours and somewhat friendly designs. Also the plot of the movie and it's elements - monsters and doors, fits perfectly in the KH universe.
Just some of the franchises I'd like to see incorporated.
i approve of everything taylor said also pocahontas and emperor's new groove yesplz
Well, about what worlds I would like to see... I would love to see more original KH worlds and less Disney worlds...
But replying to what Disney worlds I would like to see, I would choose Pocahontas, Toy Stroy and The Emperor's NEw Groove.
Also, I would like to see again Pride Lands, Port Royal and Land of Dragons :smile:
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So when you say "no homo" are you implying the word homosexual? Do you find homosexuals repugnant? Because I find the use of that phrase "no homo" very offensive.
Meh you'll be okay people say that all the time if they do something that is seen by many others as highly disturbing or of that nature.
As for the topic no lie, but certain movies I don't think would workout I love The Incredibles, but will it work don't think so. Same thing for Fox and the Hound.
They could make certain things work, but it will feel odd.
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The term was removed. The article is all in good humor and did not mean to offend.
When you said Finding Nemo, you almost made me have a panic attack.
That's a pretty good list, I would LOVE to see Who Framed Roger Rabbit? because that film is a classic.
This would complete Kingdom Hearts. ;A;
I have to say that I agree with most of the worlds you guys are bringing up. Good job:) Some of them may be a little iffy, but who knows? Square-Enix might be able to work them out.
Now, here are some other ones I've thought of, that I don't think have been mentioned yet. However, I think I'm just going to list some of the classic Disney movies, because I'm sure someone else will cover the Pixar, live action movies, things like Meet the Robinsons, and the various Disney sequels. LOL.
Onto the list! And I will admit that some of these I haven't seen in a long time (if at all), so I'm not one-hundred percent on all of them, but whatever.
Brother Bear (I'm not really sure about this one, to be honest.)
The Legend of Sleepy Hollow
The Great Mouse Detective (I never actually saw this movie, so it might not work.)
Enchanted (It could possibly be pulled off, but I've heard people say there might be legal problems with doing that one...)
The Tinker Bell movies. (Once again, I've never seen these, but I know a lot of people think they could be done, so...)
Disney's version of The Snow Queen when it comes out.
And for the heck of it, I'll just say something I know some people have been asking for for awhile: the Gargoyles TV show.
So, yeah. Here are some more ideas. I don't know how well they'd do, but they’re something to consider, at least.
It'll be interesting to see just what worlds will end up being used in III…
I would love to see more square enix worlds as well. I can only imagine something like Chrono Trigger, and fighting a massive boss like lavos.
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How about no? Square Enix can put their characters in this series, but I do Not want a world based off an SE Game. The Kingdom Hearts series, contrary to SE Fan Boy belief, is a Disney game; its just made by SE.
I would much rather see worlds based off Disney Films rather than other SE Games. SE characters are fine, but SE worlds are just something I would not approve of.
As for what Disney films id like to see in the KH series, I do believe the Black Cauldron would be an epic movie to include. One of the reasons it was so negatively received was due to how dark and sinister it was compared to 'lighthearted' and 'cute' films that came before it. Because of that I think that it could easily fit in with the Kingdom Hearts series dark tone its been developing as the series progresses.
I would love to see a world based off of Lilo and Stitch, would be interesting since he landed in Hawaii in the time frame of BbS, meaning if Sora were to visit a world based off it, it would be in the time period of the Stitch Anime series, when Lilo is an adult, has a child. I would like to see that be incorporated into KH somehow.
Also the Little Mermaid better come back, and incorporate proper battle mechanics this time around. The Little Mermaid has always been my favorite Disney film, even when i was a child. When I found out Ariel was my battle partner in the first KH game, i about squealed so loud with delight, i herd my windows crack slightly. I honestly think it would make sense, since Ursula showed up in KH3D as the first boss of the game. Something Tells me we will see more of her in the future.
I would also love to see a stage based off of Treasure Planet, would love to be able to traverse the ship Jim rides in the beginning, like Sora and crew could come across their ship while its being attacked by Heartless, and then travel with them to Treasure Planet, and that's how it would show up on the world Map. Would love to have Jim as a party member, his weapon could be the usage of Morph, like in the TP Videogames.
Another film I'd love to see would be Brave. The film only recently came out and there is still a lot of hype and excitement for it, I would also love the chance to fight alongside Merida. Also, who doesn't want the chance to fight agents Mor'Du? Would be one of the best fights in the series I think, especially if they gave him magic Heartless based powers, like they did with Scar in KHII.
Another Disney film id love to see included is Gargoyles. It was one of my favorite movies of all times, including the sequel TV Series. It was probably one of the most in-depth and darker series Disney had ever developed, and I think it would fit in perfectly with the KH Series. and since the TV show which takes place after the film is canon, they could continue using Gargoyels as the Kingdom Hearts series continues.
Also the Little Mermaid better come back, and incorporate proper battle mechanics this time around. The Little Mermaid has always been my favorite Disney film, even when i was a child. When I found out Ariel was my battle partner in the first KH game, i about squealed so loud with delight, i herd my windows crack slightly. I honestly think it would make sense, since Ursula showed up in KH3D as the first boss of the game. Something Tells me we will see more of her in the future.
Yes! Little Mermaid 2 all the way! I won't go into why I think Little Mermaid 2 is near perfect (I feel like I've posted that all over these forums in these types of thread and rehashing the same stuff all over again isn't really productive for anyone xP) but I think it would fit every well overall. I'm all for Disney utilizing sequels, regardless if they weren't well-received. With the example of Black Cauldron, just because critics didn't LOVE the movie, doesn't mean the movie can't be well-utilized in the context of Kingdom Hearts.
I don't want to say it, but with the consideration of time travel now in KH (is DDD spoilers still necessary, I forgot what day it went up too. Also, I know time travel was in KH2...but I still put spoiler tags on this anyways, I could see Sora and co. going to worlds like Little Mermaid 3, that took place in the past with Ariel's mother or Peter Pan 2 that takes place in the future. Mulan 2 I can see them trying to protect the 3 princesses (I can't help but see how that wouldn't be an obvious part of the world that would fit), not to mention the Aladdin sequels are still a gold mine of storylines for Agrabah :) Although I don't like it, I can also see them using the Alice in Wonderland by Tim Burton.
I agree with the worlds of:
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[*]The Emperor's New Groove
[*]The Princess and the Frog
[*]Tangled
[*]Pocahontas
[*]Lilo & Stitch
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This are special but to me the world that is missing is from Mary Poppins, not like a world, maybe they can use it like they did with Winnie the Pooh and the Little Mermaid (KH II) to visit the Cheery Tree Lane and the Banks Family. But they can mix the film version and the musical version, imagine Sora meeting Mary Poppins, interacting with the family, talking with Bert, and maybe Sora can sing or dance in the Step in Time number this could be a difficult one but who doesn´t love Mary Poppins. Maybe if someone is reading this give me your opinion good or bad I don´t know.
I think Treasure Planet and Atlantis deserve a spot. Treasure planet especially.
Can't you imagine Sora doing this? Treasure Planet - Solar Surfing. - YouTube
Hell yes... I just loved treasure planet, easily my favorite modern Animated disney film. I actually would've perferred this being in BBS over Deep space because I could Imagine Ven doing this with his keyboard. (get the pun?)
I would also love to see a stage based off of Treasure Planet, would love to be able to traverse the ship Jim rides in the beginning, like Sora and crew could come across their ship while its being attacked by Heartless, and then travel with them to Treasure Planet, and that's how it would show up on the world Map. Would love to have Jim as a party member, his weapon could be the usage of Morph, like in the TP Videogames.
This.
Except eh the usage of Morph like in the video games? I think they'd just give him a hand held powder gun like in the movie.
I don't think they'd spend too much time and effort on the side characters.
ALL Very good but I think it will be good to add My Neighbor Totoro or Spirited Away :D
@Demyx: Yeah, I can see those being good worlds, though Studio Ghibli owns the rights to those. Disney only does the western distribution of them, as far as I know. :(
ALL Very good but I think it will be good to add My Neighbor Totoro or Spirited Away :D
Sadly those are impossible since Disney only distributes those films. :c
For the record, "Franchise" is a term not usually applied to these movies, but rather groups of movies and toys,etc.
Now, The Rescuers would be cool. Becoming the size of a mouse and doing that.
Wreck-it-ralph was also one of the better movies i've seen this year so far. And I'm pretty sure they can do something with Vanellope's glitching.
I agree with mostly everything in Celtis' article, except Roger Rabbit. I never liked the film and the overall tone isn't something I can see KH or the KH team in general ever getting close to matching.
I also agree with many of you about including other movies like Treasure Planet, Atlantis, and Pocahontas.
Can I have Brother Bear and Meet the Robinsons worlds, though?
For the record, "Franchise" is a term not usually applied to these movies, but rather groups of movies and toys,etc.
To be fair, a lot of these films have been franchised on by Disney/Pixar.
| Wreck-it-ralph was also one of the better movies i've seen this year so far. And I'm pretty sure they can do something with Vanellope's glitching. |
Oi, spoiler tag that crap, especially when it is a new film. Unless you went searching for this info, not many know about Vanellope's glitching.
I see a lot of people wanting Emperor's New Groove and while that remains as one of my favorite movies... it really wouldn't work in the KH universe. The story is learning experience for Pacha and Kuzco and about how they learn from each other, etc etc. And also, there isn't really... any villains to defeat other than Ezma but even then, there wasn't so much of a fight as running. There'd be nothing to fight and I really don't see heartless making a good home in this world.
It'd end up being 95% cutscene and just be forced as an escort mission with Sora and crew with Pacha and Kuzco, which is definitely not something I want to happen with ENG. I think it's better left alone.
Though I will say this: It would be fun to see Sora and crew switch around animal vials as well.
I see a lot of people wanting Emperor's New Groove and while that remains as one of my favorite movies... it really wouldn't work in the KH universe. The story is learning experience for Pacha and Kuzco and about how they learn from each other, etc etc. And also, there isn't really... any villains to defeat other than Ezma but even then, there wasn't so much of a fight as running. There'd be nothing to fight and I really don't see heartless making a good home in this world.
It'd end up being 95% cutscene and just be forced as an escort mission with Sora and crew with Pacha and Kuzco, which is definitely not something I want to happen with ENG. I think it's better left alone.
Though I will say this: It would be fun to see Sora and crew switch around animal vials as well.
I think that while Kuzco and Patcha's relationship is a valid reason on your part, the world in general would have about as much to offer as any Disney world has. And it doesnt even have to end with those two characters.They get the most important bits, but with maneuvring, Sora and Co. could fit without feeling like they lack purpose. Like have them run into Kronk or something(he did have a life outside working for Yzma) or keep them active some other way.
Oi, spoiler tag that crap, especially when it is a new film. Unless you went searching for this info, not many know about Vanellope's glitching.
it's not a spoiler nor is it info that I searched for. It was something implied in the trailer and then revealed in like a press thing or something. Either way, I didnt consider it a spoiler, as there are much bigger spoilers in the movie.
it's not a spoiler nor is it info that I searched for. It was something implied in the trailer and then revealed in like a press thing or something. Either way, I didnt consider it a spoiler, as there are much bigger spoilers in the movie.
How many people have seen the press thing? I can safely say a small portion of people did. I definitely didn't know it when watching the trailers, and I am very sure others will/were just as shocked to know.
It is still a spoiler. Mark anything related to Wreck-It Ralph with spoiler tags, please.
Wreck-It Ralph would be hilarious to see.
Especially if one of the arcade machines was Space Paranoids, just to make Sora go WTF
Wreck-It Ralph would be hilarious to see.
Especially if one of the arcade machines was Space Paranoids, just to make Sora go WTF
I'd also laugh if somebody were to say "Hey, isn't that a character from that Kingdom Hearts game?" xD
It'd end up being 95% cutscene and just be forced as an escort mission with Sora and crew with Pacha and Kuzco, which is definitely not something I want to happen with ENG. I think it's better left alone.
Though I will say this: It would be fun to see Sora and crew switch around animal vials as well.
I agree that Emperor's New Groove, while not an ideal world, could work. I think it would be very funny if the world started off with Sora and co. drinking different potions, each getting turned into a different animal, and then someone steals the human, duck, and dog drinks respectively, forcing SDG to trek through the world, tracking down this person who stole them (probably Yzma). As long as this is in the world, I'm fine:
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it's not a spoiler nor is it info that I searched for. It was something implied in the trailer and then revealed in like a press thing or something. Either way, I didnt consider it a spoiler, as there are much bigger spoilers in the movie.
I'm currently obsessing right now over the film, and technically you are right. Sarah Silverman stated nearly exactly what you said in an interview with her from IGN and it is also in the press release. However, it isn't implied in any one of the trailers or scenes that were revealed on various sites so I still wouldn't include it. Better to be spoiler tag it in case :)
I do plan on making a future "What 10 Worlds Should Never Be in KH", and maybe you'll see some of my reasoning for franchises that didn't make it on this list.
Given the fact that i complain about the movie a lot, Chicken Little is probably gonna be on the list.
What about pixie hollow ?
What about pixie hollow ?
I only agree to this because it is voice actor heaven.
I don't think Roger Rabbit is Disney owned. They created the show Bonkers as a legal substitution of it.
How many people have seen the press thing? I can safely say a small portion of people did. I definitely didn't know it when watching the trailers, and I am very sure others will/were just as shocked to know.
It is still a spoiler. Mark anything related to Wreck-It Ralph with spoiler tags, please.
That is mostly true, but it didnt ruin the movie for me. The best moments were still the best. One of the trailers, she does say "everyone thinks I'm a mistake" but I guess they didnt really put it in much of the ads. It's just one of those things on the web. In fact, the little kids books were released a month before the movie came out and gave away a lot more. It just wasnt a really big one in the long run-more like a relatively basic description of the character. You have to see the movie to see what I consider actual spoilers and they are much bigger than that. That was vaguely implied in one of the trailers, but the spoilers i'm talking about werent given a flim frame's worth of thought in the marketing(aside from Little Golden Books, etc.)
Either way, I apologize.
I don't think Roger Rabbit is Disney owned. They created the show Bonkers as a legal substitution of it.
I could be wrong, but I think he is. Who else would he be owned by? I looked up Roger Rabbit and for the most part, I can't find anything about him outside of Disney properties.
I don't think Roger Rabbit is Disney owned. They created the show Bonkers as a legal substitution of it.
Proof?
It just doesnt make sense that Roger Rabbit wouldnt be Disney owned. A lot of the characters are licensed properties but the original ones must be completely Disney. That might've been the legal issue leading to Bonkers.
Either way, while Roger Rabbit should in some way be represented, Toon Town might not be the best idea because of so many licensed characters being there plus we already have two or three versions of mickey in the series; one where he's an "actor" might be a difficult sell.
Pixie Hollow might make it, as soon as Disney reveals where it is in Neverland. However, based on where that franchise ends, it may have to be a "Time Travel" world, assuming she leaves forever like Barrie's original backstory for her(I think. I dont know if he ever wrote that. the 2003 movie had more pixies)
That is mostly true, but it didnt ruin the movie for me. The best moments were still the best. One of the trailers, she does say "everyone thinks I'm a mistake" but I guess they didnt really put it in much of the ads. It's just one of those things on the web. In fact, the little kids books were released a month before the movie came out and gave away a lot more. It just wasnt a really big one in the long run-more like a relatively basic description of the character. You have to see the movie to see what I consider actual spoilers and they are much bigger than that. That was vaguely implied in one of the trailers, but the spoilers i'm talking about werent given a flim frame's worth of thought in the marketing(aside from Little Golden Books, etc.)
Either way, I apologize.
I saw the movie the day after it came out. It was still unknown to me and I made sure to not pay attention to media besides a few trailers.
It's fine. Just keep the general idea if it is new, it's a spoiler. If its over three months old, it's fine.
I want the Lion King to return, so we can get a better Pride Lands than KH2 gave us.
Also want the next 2 Pirates films, at the very least so we can get a decent remix of He's a Pirate this time.
Oh, and a Fantasia world definitely needs to be on a console KH. That would be out of this world.
But as for franchises that haven't appeared yet, I did like Tangled. ANd also, we still haven't had a Dumbo or 101 Dalmations world (I would love to get to do that chase scene with Cruella)
I want the Lion King to return, so we can get a better Pride Lands than KH2 gave us.
Also want the next 2 Pirates films, at the very least so we can get a decent remix of He's a Pirate this time.
Oh, and a Fantasia world definitely needs to be on a console KH. That would be out of this world.
But as for franchises that haven't appeared yet, I did like Tangled. ANd also, we still haven't had a Dumbo or 101 Dalmations world (I would love to get to do that chase scene with Cruella)
It's a good bit of movies back from the early days that still haven't been seen yet.
Oliver and Company, Aristocats, Dumbo, and a few others I'm leaving out.
Honestly the more I think about it Oliver and Company probably wouldn't fit love the movie, but it's tough to make that work.
yeah, Oliver and Company was in Manhattan. The background artists even based their work off of pics they took in the actual city, making for modern art with coke ads and such. It's one thing when it's in the background, but if it's included in a videogame it might have to be licensed. At the very least, wreck-it-ralph has enough original/public domain characters to include.
The list was pretty good and I agree with all of them... except for 9 and 10.
As much as I love Wreck-It Ralph and Who Framed Rojer Rabbit, having those two as a world is just as bad of an idea, if not worse, than having Star Wars worlds. It would absolutely destroy the forth wall. Both films acknowledge themselves as cartoons and video games. I can't stand the thought of having Sora look at the player and see he's in a video game. Just... no. Just no.
Other than those two though, I do agree with the list.
The list was pretty good and I agree with all of them... except for 9 and 10.
As much as I love Wreck-It Ralph and Who Framed Rojer Rabbit, having those two as a world is just as bad of an idea, if not worse, than having Star Wars worlds. It would absolutely destroy the forth wall. Both films acknowledge themselves as cartoons and video games. I can't stand the thought of having Sora look at the player and see he's in a video game. Just... no. Just no.
Other than those two though, I do agree with the list.
It doesn't have to be like that, you know.
R u kidding me? Who Hired this douche to post this? Let just say right now that both Pooh and Little mermaid are disney classics. To add them to Kingdom Hearts is a no brainer they are beloved disney characters! If Sora was not a merman what would he be? They had to show they were not from a different world. The suggestions he made for the new world I agree with a few but come on now. Up? Really now how would that work. We are looking at story here not how great the graphics look. How would this story play out. I do not see a story here yeah the movie was good but not Kingdom Hearts worthy. Obviously the original Rescuers should be the one that gets to be in Kingdom Hearts the Rescuers down under totally bombed! The incredibles? No I don't think so. I could not handle that stupid blonde fast kid honestly I wanted to see him die in the movie I was hoping he would would! Do not want to see him again in my most favorite games ever. Not Kingdom Hearts worthy. Now Finding Nemo yes I would love to see this a KH world It was funny cute and a lot of people love this movie people also still talk about this movie and quote it. Not when u said who Framed Roger Rabbit? I loved this movie but NO! Was this even a disney movie? The real fans who have commented on this moronic post have way better imagination than u do dude. I love the idea of Spirited Away now there is a KH world! I don't think this guy should post anything else he obviously has no idea what he is talking about and to trash the original Kingdom Hearts in the process! This guy is obviously not a true Kingdom Hearts fan. Lets all vote to not let him post again this guy is an idiot.
R u kidding me? Who Hired this douche to post this? Let just say right now that both Pooh and Little mermaid are disney classics. To add them to Kingdom Hearts is a no brainer they are beloved disney characters! If Sora was not a merman what would he be? They had to show they were not from a different world. The suggestions he made for the new world I agree with a few but come on now. Up? Really now how would that work. We are looking at story here not how great the graphics look. How would this story play out. I do not see a story here yeah the movie was good but not Kingdom Hearts worthy. Obviously the original Rescuers should be the one that gets to be in Kingdom Hearts the Rescuers down under totally bombed! The incredibles? No I don't think so. I could not handle that stupid blonde fast kid honestly I wanted to see him die in the movie I was hoping he would would! Do not want to see him again in my most favorite games ever. Not Kingdom Hearts worthy. Now Finding Nemo yes I would love to see this a KH world It was funny cute and a lot of people love this movie people also still talk about this movie and quote it. Not when u said who Framed Roger Rabbit? I loved this movie but NO! Was this even a disney movie? The real fans who have commented on this moronic post have way better imagination than u do dude. I love the idea of Spirited Away now there is a KH world! I don't think this guy should post anything else he obviously has no idea what he is talking about and to trash the original Kingdom Hearts in the process! This guy is obviously not a true Kingdom Hearts fan. Lets all vote to not let him post again this guy is an idiot.
While I somewhat agree with you on some points like the Rojer Rabbit, but uh... looking at the fact that you created an account just to make that comment....... something tells me you're a troll.
I was going to create this account long before but when I was someone trashing the series that gave me more incentive thinking a real KH fan would understand.
But... he wasn't trashing the series.
R u kidding me? Who Hired this douche to post this? Let just say right now that both Pooh and Little mermaid are disney classics. To add them to Kingdom Hearts is a no brainer they are beloved disney characters! If Sora was not a merman what would he be? They had to show they were not from a different world. The suggestions he made for the new world I agree with a few but come on now. Up? Really now how would that work. We are looking at story here not how great the graphics look. How would this story play out. I do not see a story here yeah the movie was good but not Kingdom Hearts worthy.
I very much agree with you here as I cannot see Up fitting into Kingdom Hearts. At best, I think Kevin would work as a summon and Sora would ride him around hitting people in his path, but I don't think the movie would make a good boss battle. Unless the bad guys in the world were the respective minions (Heartless, Nobody, etc.), I can't see Sora fighting Alpha, any of the dogs, or Charles (beating up on old guys? Come on Sora lmao)
| Obviously the original Rescuers should be the one that gets to be in Kingdom Hearts the Rescuers down under totally bombed! The incredibles? No I don't think so. I could not handle that stupid blonde fast kid honestly I wanted to see him die in the movie I was hoping he would would! Do not want to see him again in my most favorite games ever. Not Kingdom Hearts worthy. Now Finding Nemo yes I would love to see this a KH world It was funny cute and a lot of people love this movie people also still talk about this movie and quote it. |
I know you are saying who is Taylor to say who should and should not be in Kingdom Hearts, but aren't you doing the EXACT same thing lol? I mean, "Kingdom Hearts worthy"? Unless you are actually Nomura secretly, I don't think you get to determine who is Kingdom Hearts-worthy?
Also, you said earlier that Up wasn't Kingdom Hearts worthy because it has a bad story for Kingdom Hearts, but how are gonna say that Finding Nemo does have a good story for Kingdom Hearts? Come on, at least UP had a clearly defined villain, Finding Nemo didn't. They had numerous obstacles in their path, but there wasn't a villain that was behind it all along, so Finding Nemo, no...that would never work (not saying a summon wouldn't, but a world...no).
| Not when u said who Framed Roger Rabbit? I loved this movie but NO! Was this even a disney movie? The real fans who have commented on this moronic post have way better imagination than u do dude. I love the idea of Spirited Away now there is a KH world! |
- Yes, Roger Rabbit is a Disney movie and Disney releases more Roger Rabbit merchandise than any Ghibli films (Jessica Rabbit is very popular among Disney pins...I collect Disney pins so yes, I know).
- Disney only distributes the Ghibli films in the US, they don't have the rights over them. It is kind of like how Square Enix distributed Dead Island, but didn't make the game themselves. Does that mean Dead Island characters can now appear in KH instead of TWEWY? No, it doesn't. So any Studio Ghibli films you want to mention fall moot because Disney cannot put them in the game with Studio Ghibli's okay.
P.S. That last part I cut out because that was just rude, just because you're angry doesn't mean you have to take it out on others. :)
I was going to create this account long before but when I was someone trashing the series that gave me more incentive thinking a real KH fan would understand.
You didnt have to be so Jackarse about it but you are right in a few points, but everybody has the right to their own opinion so let the guy, or gal, be.
In my opinion 10 worlds hmm...
I'll do Seven, Id have to say...
Black Cauldron, Robin Hood, the Sword and the Stone, Pocahontas, Treasure Planet, The Jungle Book, and Aladin and the King of Thieves
The list was pretty good and I agree with all of them... except for 9 and 10.
As much as I love Wreck-It Ralph and Who Framed Rojer Rabbit, having those two as a world is just as bad of an idea, if not worse, than having Star Wars worlds. It would absolutely destroy the forth wall. Both films acknowledge themselves as cartoons and video games. I can't stand the thought of having Sora look at the player and see he's in a video game. Just... no. Just no.
Other than those two though, I do agree with the list.
Except Ralph doesnt have to do that. They dont acknowledge they're in the movie in that movie, so it's perfectly fine to have a "game world"-especially with minigames-in this particular video game series. No need to break the forth wall.
Roger Rabbit, as I said before, the character(s) can fit but with licensing and breaking the forth wall, the world they're in cant.
I was going to create this account long before but when I was someone trashing the series that gave me more incentive thinking a real KH fan would understand.
He's not trashing the series; at least not nearly as much as you seem to be trashing Pixar films. I agree the Incredibles wouldnt be the best fit, but Up isnt about pretty visuals(dont get me wrong, it's also a tough sell for this series, but of all the reasons to keep it out...) and "that stupid blonde fast kid" is at least of average intelligence. Oh, wait, that was your opinion showing. You have a right to it, of course, but here we tend to be a bit more constructive in our criticisms and not as "immature" as most of the internet and you're post gives off that vibe. No offense; just saying for future reference.
The list was pretty good and I agree with all of them... except for 9 and 10.
As much as I love Wreck-It Ralph and Who Framed Rojer Rabbit, having those two as a world is just as bad of an idea, if not worse, than having Star Wars worlds. It would absolutely destroy the forth wall. Both films acknowledge themselves as cartoons and video games. I can't stand the thought of having Sora look at the player and see he's in a video game. Just... no. Just no.
Other than those two though, I do agree with the list.
It wouldn't need to break the 4th wall, like most others have said. Sora has been inside of books and computers, so being in a video game wouldn't make him a video game character (no matter how funny the gag would be. The idea is interesting if played on right, though. It is very possible that there could be a world out in the vast universe where Sora's story has been chronicled into a video game rofl.)
It'd be the same concept as when Sora enters 100 Acre Woods or Space Paranoids, or like how Mickey, Donald, and Goofy are taken into the Datascape. Sora never becomes a book character like Pooh is in the game or a computer program made of data even though Tron was (and no matter how much Xemnas wanted to confused the poor boy on the Grid.) MDG never became a part of the journal even though they knew they were in it.
Personally I think 'Wreck-It-Ralph' is too new of a Disney movie to be in KH.
Considering the newest-ish Disney world we have seen so far in any of the KH games is 'Lilo & Stitch' (forgive me if this is wrong and there is a newer one- but for example) as seen in 'Deep Space' which was made on DVD in 2000.
I do not think anything made from Disney, Pixar, Marvel or Lucas-films (just to name everything Disney owns) that is past 2006-2008 will be in KH. Sorry to good films such as 'Tangled', 'The Princess & the Frog', 'Up', 'Wreck-It-Ralph' and sooooo many more.
I have to agree, the nostalgic element is really what draws you into these worlds. At least that's part of it.
R u kidding me? Who Hired this douche to post this? Let just say right now that both Pooh and Little mermaid are disney classics. To add them to Kingdom Hearts is a no brainer they are beloved disney characters! If Sora was not a merman what would he be? They had to show they were not from a different world. The suggestions he made for the new world I agree with a few but come on now. Up? Really now how would that work. We are looking at story here not how great the graphics look. How would this story play out. I do not see a story here yeah the movie was good but not Kingdom Hearts worthy. Obviously the original Rescuers should be the one that gets to be in Kingdom Hearts the Rescuers down under totally bombed! The incredibles? No I don't think so. I could not handle that stupid blonde fast kid honestly I wanted to see him die in the movie I was hoping he would would! Do not want to see him again in my most favorite games ever. Not Kingdom Hearts worthy. Now Finding Nemo yes I would love to see this a KH world It was funny cute and a lot of people love this movie people also still talk about this movie and quote it. Not when u said who Framed Roger Rabbit? I loved this movie but NO! Was this even a disney movie? The real fans who have commented on this moronic post have way better imagination than u do dude. I love the idea of Spirited Away now there is a KH world! I don't think this guy should post anything else he obviously has no idea what he is talking about and to trash the original Kingdom Hearts in the process! This guy is obviously not a true Kingdom Hearts fan. Lets all vote to not let him post again this guy is an idiot.
Personally I think 'Wreck-It-Ralph' is too new of a Disney movie to be in KH.
Considering the newest-ish Disney world we have seen so far in any of the KH games is 'Lilo & Stitch' (forgive me if this is wrong and there is a newer one- but for example) as seen in 'Deep Space' which was made on DVD in 2000.
I do not think anything made from Disney, Pixar, Marvel or Lucas-films (just to name everything Disney owns) that is past 2006-2008 will be in KH. Sorry to good films such as 'Tangled', 'The Princess & the Frog', 'Up', 'Wreck-It-Ralph' and sooooo many more.
Tron: Legacy came out in 2010, Pirates of the Caribbean came out in 2003, and The 3 Musketeers came out in 2004 (the last two I suppose did not come out past 2006 like you said but still are both newer than Lilo and Stitch).
And I really disagree on this point in general. I mean Tron: Legacy definitely shows they have no problem adding in new movies anyway, and yeah nostalgia is great and everything but I would be just as excited if The Princess and the Frog, Tangled, or Wreck-it Ralph were included in KH as I would if any other amazing Disney film was included. I don't really think their ages should be a factor in their inclusion.
I have to agree, the nostalgic element is really what draws you into these worlds. At least that's part of it.
Nostalgia is what brought fans to the series originally, because those movies are by far and will almost always be Disney's most famous films (I doubt any movie Disney ever makes will ever reach the popularity of Beauty and the Beast or Little Mermaid, easily Disney's two most famous movies), but now that the series has established a good fanbase, I don't think it necessarily matters from what generation they add. Tangled is extremely popular right now (at least among Disney fanatics, Tangled is what is considered "in" lol xP) so if they added Tangled to the game, I know it could really pull people in, especially if you fought WITH Rapunzel and her pan lol xP
It wouldn't need to break the 4th wall, like most others have said. Sora has been inside of books and computers, so being in a video game wouldn't make him a video game character (no matter how funny the gag would be. The idea is interesting if played on right, though. It is very possible that there could be a world out in the vast universe where Sora's story has been chronicled into a video game rofl.)
It'd be the same concept as when Sora enters 100 Acre Woods or Space Paranoids, or like how Mickey, Donald, and Goofy are taken into the Datascape. Sora never becomes a book character like Pooh is in the game or a computer program made of data even though Tron was (and no matter how much Xemnas wanted to confused the poor boy on the Grid.) MDG never became a part of the journal even though they knew they were in it.
The problem is that it would be a cameo-based movie inside a cameo-based game. Kingdom Hearts is already about the idea of seeing Disney characters and Final Fantasy characters around. That was what drew us to play the game was to see them. What drew us to see Wreck-It Ralph? Seeing characters like Sonic, Bison, Pacman, etc. And I just can't imagine seeing a KH game where other Nintendo characters are in it (Que someone posting the Mushroom Kingdom Hearts picture). And you take away the video game references, means taking away half the magic of Wreck-It Ralph. It's like taking away Disney and FF from Kingdom Hearts, it just kills half the fun.
I know I'm not explaining this too well, it's just that my gut feels it is wrong in so many ways. Just like why I am against having Star Wars and Pirates of the Carribean (yes, it was in KH2, and I STILL think it's out of place) in Kingdom Hearts.
To me, the day they use Wreck-It Ralph in Kingdom Hearts is the day that they have run out of Disney movies to use.
Tron: Legacy came out in 2010, Pirates of the Caribbean came out in 2003, and The 3 Musketeers came out in 2004 (the last two I suppose did not come out past 2006 like you said but still are both newer than Lilo and Stitch).
And I really disagree on this point in general. I mean Tron: Legacy definitely shows they have no problem adding in new movies anyway, and yeah nostalgia is great and everything but I would be just as excited if The Princess and the Frog, Tangled, or Wreck-it Ralph were included in KH as I would if any other amazing Disney film was included. I don't really think their ages should be a factor in their inclusion.
I'm sorry what did you just say? -.-
'Space Paranoids' was based off the ORIGINAL TRON which came out in 1982!!!
The only reason they used the new TRON (which in my opinion sucked) was because they didn't want to have the same concept as the first word and because there was already a world that they could expand off- it was a safe sneak in.
Yes we would all be excited if the incorporated a new world such as those above but I really don't believe they will.
I'm sorry what did you just say? -.-
'Space Paranoids' was based off the ORIGINAL TRON which came out in 1982!!!
The only reason they used the new TRON (which in my opinion sucked) was because they didn't want to have the same concept as the first word and because there was already a world that they could expand off- it was a safe sneak in.
Yes we would all be excited if the incorporated a new world such as those above but I really don't believe they will.
Tron: Legacy came out in 2010
The sequel came out in 2010. SEQUEL.
I'm sorry what did you just say? -.-
'Space Paranoids' was based off the ORIGINAL TRON which came out in 1982!!!
Except he was responding to your comment about how the newest film they utilized in the series is Lilo & Stitch, when in fact it was Tron: Legacy that currently holds that position. Neither you nor he ever mentioned the original Tron.
| The only reason they used the new TRON (which in my opinion sucked) was because they didn't want to have the same concept as the first word and because there was already a world that they could expand off- it was a safe sneak in. |
You do realize that they were originally going to include both Space Paranoids and The Grid in 3D, right? Not only that, but
Tron: A computer system---for processing data. This system is a copy of one created by a corporation called ENCOM. The original program was destroyed. |
KH3D takes place in the Sleeping Worlds - worlds that have been erased and lost to the darkness, and had yet to be restored. The Grid fits in perfectly with that concept.
| Yes we would all be excited if the incorporated a new world such as those above but I really don't believe they will. |
Never say never. But it'd be worth giving things a more careful read.
The sequel came out in 2010. SEQUEL.[/COLOR]
Yes I know. I'm sorry I missed the Sequel in the first statement I'm sorry.
Look I could rebut everything you guys have said. But sorry I'm just in a bad mood today. I cna't be screwed and I'm sorry for what ever argument I've started.
Not thinking clearly today.
I very much agree with you here as I cannot see Up fitting into Kingdom Hearts. At best, I think Kevin would work as a summon and Sora would ride him around hitting people in his path, but I don't think the movie would make a good boss battle. Unless the bad guys in the world were the respective minions (Heartless, Nobody, etc.), I can't see Sora fighting Alpha, any of the dogs, or Charles (beating up on old guys? Come on Sora lmao)
Y'know, we sometimes seem to forget that Darkness is the go-to for powering up previously powerless Disney characters. Oogie Boogie and Scar come to mind, though those were second boss fights, it makes for an adequate excuse for Charles/the Dogs, but yeah, the movie just wouldnt fit. I dont see most Pixar movies fitting for various reasons.
And I read the other post fully and have to correct myself. BBS(forgot the rest of his name) did give more than one reason not to put UP in and I apologize for that brief bit of ignorance.
The problem is that it would be a cameo-based movie inside a cameo-based game. Kingdom Hearts is already about the idea of seeing Disney characters and Final Fantasy characters around. That was what drew us to play the game was to see them. What drew us to see Wreck-It Ralph? Seeing characters like Sonic, Bison, Pacman, etc. And I just can't imagine seeing a KH game where other Nintendo characters are in it (Que someone posting the Mushroom Kingdom Hearts picture). And you take away the video game references, means taking away half the magic of Wreck-It Ralph. It's like taking away Disney and FF from Kingdom Hearts, it just kills half the fun.
I know I'm not explaining this too well, it's just that my gut feels it is wrong in so many ways. Just like why I am against having Star Wars and Pirates of the Carribean (yes, it was in KH2, and I STILL think it's out of place) in Kingdom Hearts.
To me, the day they use Wreck-It Ralph in Kingdom Hearts is the day that they have run out of Disney movies to use.
You ignored my post when I said Wreck-it-ralph had a lot of original characters, mostly minor characters, that for the series' current standard(which is almost none filling a decent space) and how many of the cameos in the movie were actually licensed? It's not like we're seeing too many new bartenders and Qberts in the last 20 years. And that's even assuming Game Central Station is gonna appear and be big. Considering the most time in the movie is spent in original games with potentially dozens of original characters(which can be quite numerous if you include Calhoun's army and the Candy citizens and racers), They could largely cut out the central area and still make a big, nicely designed world-even if it's mostly just minigames(and there should be. It's a great opportunity for them, but with combat like Disney Town)
Also, Lilo and Stitch was in 2002, and Tarzan when it was in KH was only 3 years old; not old enough for nostalgia and neither it nor Hercules(which was 5 when KH came out) are nearly as popular as the movies before them, so their goes the nostalgia factor. Disney hasnt even done a decent widescreen DVD for Hercules and the at least 10yo one was still in print a couple years ago. 2009-2010, and it was at target brand new. They've been treating that movie with negligence since before KH1.
but Star Wars would be just wrong. Pirates didnt really work either, but Ralph has a lot going for it. But Star Wars................I seriously doubt they(Square) will touch that.
Nostalgia isn't even a factor for me as to whether or not they use certain Disney films. Wreck-It Ralph and Rojer Rabbit just feel wrong. Even with using the big-enough cast they have, it just doesn't seem right. It's a cameo-based product inside a cameo-based product. That's just... weird.
Nostalgia isn't even a factor for me as to whether or not they use certain Disney films. Wreck-It Ralph and Rojer Rabbit just feel wrong. Even with using the big-enough cast they have, it just doesn't seem right. It's a cameo-based product inside a cameo-based product. That's just... weird.
WIR only has four major characters and one villain. The cameos weren't even a major part of the movie, even if it was all nice. Leaving the film I spent little time thinking of all of the cameos I saw and more of all of the stuff that happened. The entire theme of the film fits rather well into the KH universe, considering how close it is to Riku's entire character arc (except less about change and more about acceptance.) I don't see the problem with WIR being in KH. It is perfect.
None of the cameos would even be in the game if the world was to be included so they don't even matter. The movie could have gone without the cameos and would still have the same story. That's how much the cameos affect the film.
The WIR world would probably just be Sugar Rush.
I personally just dont see a pixar world fitting in Kingdome Hearts.
At best maybe a summon of Wall-E or Sully haha but really what are you going to do in Cars, Up, Wall-E, Ratatouile, Finding Nemo, Monster Inc, A Bugs Life, the incredible, or Toy Story. I have yet to see Brave so I cant comment on that but the other just dont fit IMO.
On what basis would a Pixar world seriously not work?
On what basis would a Pixar world seriously not work?
Just honestly looking at all the Pixar movies and thinking about the possibilty of working with the game name three that would honestly HONESTLY work. MAYBE Toy Story with the crew fighting Sid and his dog but im pretty sure Disney is not going to allow you to beat a kid up. Outside of that just IMO there is nothing there that fits maybe a Bugs Life taht may work but outside of those two I just dont see it
Did you even read the original post? lol
Did you even read the original post? lol
Yes but I dont really have a basis its an opinionated thing I just personally dont think it will work but I may be wrong, we will see...
The problem is that it would be a cameo-based movie inside a cameo-based game. Kingdom Hearts is already about the idea of seeing Disney characters and Final Fantasy characters around. That was what drew us to play the game was to see them. What drew us to see Wreck-It Ralph? Seeing characters like Sonic, Bison, Pacman, etc.
You are definitely right that Nintendo characters won't appear in KH because if it did, they would never be able to use that world in Playstation games nor show a photo of them or anything (the Nintendo characters at least).
However, saying WIR is a cameo-based movie could also be used against Toy Story, despite the fact that Toy Story is too a much lesser extent. It was pretty cool seeing all those toys from your childhood interact with each other after Andy left his room when you were little, and even still nowadays. Totoro made a cameo in Toy Story 3 I know off the top of my head because I thought that was an awesome cameo.
However, the draw of WIR for me was not the cameos, since I knew they were going to be nothing more than cameos, the draw for me was seeing a video game version of Toy Story, and if you were drawn to Toy Story then you should be able to understand why I was drawn to WIR.
In terms of WIR, the way it works if you haven't seen the movie is that each world is only connected through Game Central Station (a power strip), however, each game can exist independently of each other without it.They could always make that power strip be connected to only a few games (WIR and Sugar Rush) thereby eliminating all possibility that a Nintendo character would appear since it would be physically impossible if they weren't connected to that power strip.
At best maybe a summon of Wall-E or Sully haha but really what are you going to do in Cars, Up, Wall-E, Ratatouile, Finding Nemo, Monster Inc, A Bugs Life, the incredible, or Toy Story. I have yet to see Brave so I cant comment on that but the other just dont fit IMO.
While I agree a lot of Pixar movies wouldn't work, some really would. From Monsters Inc., Randall would make a great boss considering he can change his look to blend in to the environment and Waternoose being corrupt would help to make an awesome big Heartless boss. Not to mention the idea that the doors can lead anywhere could really stretch the creativity of the SE staff.
Just honestly looking at all the Pixar movies and thinking about the possibilty of working with the game name three that would honestly HONESTLY work. MAYBE Toy Story with the crew fighting Sid and his dog but im pretty sure Disney is not going to allow you to beat a kid up. Outside of that just IMO there is nothing there that fits maybe a Bugs Life taht may work but outside of those two I just dont see it
They wouldn't have you fight Sid. They can easily have a Heartless drawn to Sid's negativity that is fashioned after some crazy insane looking toy. We fought a cat in BBS so I imagine we'll have some fight against the dog as well.
Monsters Inc. would work considering the entire doors thing plus it'd be hilarious to see Sora trying to sneak around/pretend to be a monster. The Incredibles features superheroes and is rather easy to fit Sora into the equation, not to mention Syndrome being the baddy. Brave because of its themes of true bravery, acceptance, and understanding.
Look, I liked Wreck-It Ralph as a movie in of itself and for the original characters and all... and it's not just for the cameos or whatever. I absolutely loved the movie. Honestly, Wreck-It Ralph and The Avengers are my top 2 favorite movies this year. It's just that even without the cameos, Wreck-It Ralph (I refuse to call it WIR, that just sounds weird) is just a film that I can't see working in Kingdom Hearts.
I can't understand the opposition some have here to the inclusion of Pixar worlds based on personal opinions of not "fitting in" the Kingdom Hearts universe. Really? There's nothing that could be done with the likes of Toy Story, A Bug's Life, Monsters Inc., The Incredibles, WALL-E, Up, and Brave?
I can't understand the opposition some have here to the inclusion of Pixar worlds based on personal opinions of not "fitting in" the Kingdom Hearts universe. Really? There's nothing that could be done with the likes of Toy Story, A Bug's Life, Monsters Inc., The Incredibles, WALL-E, Up, and Brave?
I agreed with you until you said Wall-E. Wall-E has nothing going on. It's an environmental-message based movie (a surprisingly good one.) Other than people living the rest of their lives in obesity, there's no real life-threatening danger in that movie.
Come to think of it, I'm very iffy on Up too... maybe as a cameo appearance, but I don't think a full-on world would work.
It's hard to discuss things if you don't bring up any reasons as to why you think your opinions are valid.
It's a waste of a post to just say "this doesn't fit in." Why doesn't it fit in? Explain why and perhaps your post won't be wasted.
Why the diddly does this bug me so much
I agreed with you until you said Wall-E. Wall-E has nothing going on. It's an environmental-message based movie (a surprisingly good one.) Other than people living the rest of their lives in obesity, there's no real life-threatening danger in that movie.
Come to think of it, I'm very iffy on Up too... maybe as a cameo appearance, but I don't think a full-on world would work.
Agreed. Though Wall-E wasnt originally meant to be an environmental movie-at last the way that it was(the director wasnt really that interested in following humans into space; Stanton originally wanted an alien race on the Axiom). It just evolved into that. Up would work a little better, but really be a hard fit.
The Incredibles is a possibility, but with all dem marriage issues.........having SDG at least a part of that might make a problem.
Though it could lead to a classic moment where Mr. Incredible ask Donald and Goofy what failed experiment caused them to mutate like thatlol
I agreed with you until you said Wall-E. Wall-E has nothing going on. It's an environmental-message based movie (a surprisingly good one.) Other than people living the rest of their lives in obesity, there's no real life-threatening danger in that movie.
Come to think of it, I'm very iffy on Up too... maybe as a cameo appearance, but I don't think a full-on world would work.
Pooh had no life-threatening danger yet it was in KH.
^As a minigame world. And now that I remember, it was kinda senseless to have Unversed in Disney town. All they ever did was enter two of those games.
They wouldn't have you fight Sid. They can easily have a Heartless drawn to Sid's negativity that is fashioned after some crazy insane looking toy. We fought a cat in BBS so I imagine we'll have some fight against the dog as well.
Monsters Inc. would work considering the entire doors thing plus it'd be hilarious to see Sora trying to sneak around/pretend to be a monster. The Incredibles features superheroes and is rather easy to fit Sora into the equation, not to mention Syndrome being the baddy. Brave because of its themes of true bravery, acceptance, and understanding.
Generally this. Plus how old were some of the characters we have beaten up? For all we know, we coulda been fighting some rather elderly (not xehanort) individuals and it's not really PG rated to have toys attack a kid if it's not too violent. And they dont even do that; they just emotionally scar him for the rest of his childhood.
I already posted about the Incredibles, but I do agree about Monsters' Inc. And since Brave is an adventure about a Princess-but primarily an adventure-it would be relatively easy to fit in the series. The key locations are easy enough to distinguish. My only concern with that(and even Monsters) is on the PS3 how much of that detail is too much for SDG? Snow White and Sleeping Beauty have a lot of detail, but not that much. Pixar has always had more of a hyper-real visual sense than simply stylized or cartoony.
Pooh had no life-threatening danger yet it was in KH.
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I would've posted Tigger Movie part 7 like I usually do, but I guess YouTube removed that... ah well.
Winnie the Pooh as a franchise was always about discovering something new and doing different activities. The show and movies in particular had a lot of creativity put into them. There was an episode where you go under Christopher Robin's bed, fight off evil crayons and a giant slug that feeds on filthiness. There's so many ideas, it's unbelievable. With Wall-E... there's really not. There's no real mini-games that I can think of at all. There would really be nothing to do in that world.
^As a minigame world. And now that I remember, it was kinda senseless to have Unversed in Disney town. All they ever did was enter two of those games.
It was, and I'm still lost as to why the Unversed even wanted to bother with the games. For what? Purpose? Pete seemed to be doing a fine job ruining crap.
| Generally this. Plus how old were some of the characters we have beaten up? For all we know, we coulda been fighting some rather elderly (not xehanort) individuals and it's not really PG rated to have toys attack a kid if it's not too violent. And they dont even do that; they just emotionally scar him for the rest of his childhood. I already posted about the Incredibles, but I do agree about Monsters' Inc. And since Brave is an adventure about a Princess-but primarily an adventure-it would be relatively easy to fit in the series. The key locations are easy enough to distinguish. My only concern with that(and even Monsters) is on the PS3 how much of that detail is too much for SDG? Snow White and Sleeping Beauty have a lot of detail, but not that much. Pixar has always had more of a hyper-real visual sense than simply stylized or cartoony. |
And anyways, it wouldn't need to follow any of the movie plots in TS1-TS3 to the exact word. We've beaten up children in Halloween Town, Xehanort split the heart of a 12 year old boy and left him to die on an island, Alice was going to have her head chopped off, everything that happened to Sora, Riku, and Kairi who are still children, pretty sure Ienzo was still pretty young when he got stabbed by Apprentice Xehanort...
Yeah we've had a lot of children involved in violence, direct and indirect in KH.
They can easily tone a few details down to be closer to KH's style while maintaining the same look. Monsters Inc. is actually a bit below what can be done in KH by Square Enix, especially with the tools they have on hand.
^Yeah, monsters' inc shouldnt have much of a problem. I was kinda more thinking about how it is still more detailed that Disney 2D animation and Sulley has hair, which is something else altogether. Brave on a nonvisual level, seems to lend itself well to standard world design in the series.
I agreed with you until you said Wall-E. Wall-E has nothing going on. It's an environmental-message based movie (a surprisingly good one.) Other than people living the rest of their lives in obesity, there's no real life-threatening danger in that movie.
Come to think of it, I'm very iffy on Up too... maybe as a cameo appearance, but I don't think a full-on world would work.
That's life threatening.
I think it all depends on how the story lines are integrated into the games. Just because a story seems like there's no potential, doesn't make it true.
That's life threatening.
Um... yeah. That's why I said "OTHER THAN" :/
So what are you suggesting? A mini-game where we get people to diet? You have to throw food in their mouths and you have to shoot the healthy food and prevent the trash from getting in?
Seriously, I don't see ANY potential to be in a video game. It's one of those movies that works brilliant as a movie, but just would not work as part of a game.
Um... yeah. That's why I said "OTHER THAN" :/
JUST. JOKING.
Goodness.
| So what are you suggesting? A mini-game where we get people to diet? You have to throw food in their mouths and you have to shoot the healthy food and prevent the trash from getting in? |
Yes, something similar to this:
| Seriously, I don't see ANY potential to be in a video game. It's one of those movies that works brilliant as a movie, but just would not work as part of a game. |
They made Winnie the Pooh work. They made Steam Boat Willie work. I have confidence that they could throw something together if they truly wanted.
JUST. JOKING.
Goodness.
When I put words in all caps, I'm not yelling. It's just to put emphasis or attention to it. Like bolding a statement.
Yes, something similar to this:
Okay, THAT was funny.
They made Winnie the Pooh work. They made Steam Boat Willie work.
Because stuff actually happens in Winnie the Pooh and Steam Boat Willie. They are creative worlds where the characters go to different places and do incredible things. I already mentioned examples for Winnie the Pooh in a previous post. Plus with Steam Boat Willie, it's easy to work because it affects the main characters that were already present. Wall-E doesn't really do anything besides fall in love with another robot and hold a plant. It's handled well in the movie, but as a world in a video game... it just wouldn't work.
Wall-E sucks. Please don't make it a world. Serious-glee.
(UP too. Hate on me~(please don't))
When I put words in all caps, I'm not yelling. It's just to put emphasis or attention to it. Like bolding a statement.
Using this ":/" face pretty much said it all.
| Okay, THAT was funny. |
You can't tell me that game was not some of the most fun you ever had as a child?!?
| Because stuff actually happens in Winnie the Pooh and Steam Boat Willie. They are creative worlds where the characters go to different places and do incredible things. I already mentioned examples for Winnie the Pooh in a previous post. Plus with Steam Boat Willie, it's easy to work because it affects the main characters that were already present. Wall-E doesn't really do anything besides fall in love with another robot and hold a plant. It's handled well in the movie, but as a world in a video game... it just wouldn't work. |
You're forgetting about the minor antagonist in Wall-E, Auto, that Sora could have to fight as the main boss. Maybe it's possessed by a Heartless and that's why it has turned against everyone. Sora could fight alongside Wall-E to help him defeat Auto while running around the ship. Etc. That would need a lot more refinement, but there's a bit more to it than you think there is. After all, they managed to squeeze a whole world out of a brief scene in the Lilo & Stitch movie.
You can't tell me that game was not some of the most fun you ever had as a child?!?
You're right... I can't...
You're forgetting about the minor antagonist in Wall-E, Auto, that Sora could have to fight as the main boss. Maybe it's possessed by a Heartless and that's why it has turned against everyone. Sora could fight alongside Wall-E to help him defeat Auto while running around the ship. Etc. That would need a lot more refinement, but there's a bit more to it than you think there is. After all, they managed to squeeze a whole world out of a brief scene in the Lilo & Stitch movie.
I thought about Auto... yeah, that's not good enough for a whole world though. And even then, they'd have to stretch just to make that boss fight work.
And with Lilo and Stitch, again, a lot more happens even in that brief scene and there's a lot more you could do with it. With Wall-E, there's really not a whole lot you could do without stretching it out like a piece of taffy.
It's just one of those movies that doesn't work in a video game (they attempted to in the movie-license game but DAAAAANG, did it suck)
I thought about Auto... yeah, that's not good enough for a whole world though. And even then, they'd have to stretch just to make that boss fight work.
Okay so what about a completely new story. It isn't like KH hasn't made new stories in worlds before. You're acting as if they CAN'T POSSIBLY write something that can make it work.
| And with Lilo and Stitch, again, a lot more happens even in that brief scene and there's a lot more you could do with it. With Wall-E, there's really not a whole lot you could do without stretching it out like a piece of taffy. |
Why would it even be a stretch. Just don't use the Wall-e plot at all, then. Creative liberty and all that jazz.
| It's just one of those movies that doesn't work in a video game (they attempted to in the movie-license game but DAAAAANG, did it suck) |
"Disney and Final Fantasy together? That can't work together" "Tron and KH? That can't work." "PotC and KH? That can't work."
It's just one of those movies that doesn't work in a video game (they attempted to in the movie-license game but DAAAAANG, did it suck)
You do realise that SO many games based on movies suck, right?
Why would it even be a stretch. Just don't use the Wall-e plot at all, then. Creative liberty and all that jazz.
If we go that route, just use the Wall-E character and that's it. No need for the world.
"Disney and Final Fantasy together? That can't work together"
I never said that.
"Tron and KH? That can't work."
I didn't say that either.
"PotC and KH? That can't work."
That DIDN'T work and I will say that until the day I day, PotC did NOT work in Kingdom Hearts.
You're right... I can't...
So clearly that would be the best KH mini-game ever...
| I thought about Auto... yeah, that's not good enough for a whole world though. And even then, they'd have to stretch just to make that boss fight work. And with Lilo and Stitch, again, a lot more happens even in that brief scene and there's a lot more you could do with it. With Wall-E, there's really not a whole lot you could do without stretching it out like a piece of taffy. |
Throw in some Heartless, or whatever enemies they choose to have relevant in that particular game, sub-plot and you can easily make the movie work as a world.
BBS stretched out that Lilo & Stitch world like a piece of taffy but people still enjoyed it.
| It's just one of those movies that doesn't work in a video game (they attempted to in the movie-license game but DAAAAANG, did it suck) |
Well, that's just not a fair comparison. Most of those suck.
Coming from a long time Disney fan (AKA nerd) and fan fic writer, it's more easier to create scenarios to Disney movies than their actual plots. As we know for ten years, most worlds are loosely based on their movies or aren't but have their own story. Take the princesses' worlds, I can involve the move plot or stick to the mission the seven protectors of light have. It's all about free creativity, as long as it is entertaining your viewers, it won't matter what movie you use.
Well, that's just not a fair comparison. Most of those suck.
Pixar ones? Nuh-uh. Toy Story, Bugs Life, The Incredibles, all of those were awesome. Heck, I grew up with a lot of great movie license games. People just never play the good ones :P
I'm absolutely mystified as to how this post got to seven pages, but let me just clear a few things up real quick.
1) It's an editorial, and that denotes that it's an opinion piece. I'm not bagging on KH, and even if I was, it's an opinion piece. Feel free to disagree, but let's all be adult here and refrain from baseless insults.
2) I personally think that the Incredibles would fit in completely, but I guess that's just me? I dunno, for me, it doesn't seem like any more of a stretch than something like Toy Story haha.
3) As for Up, I guess I can see where people are coming from. I'm definitely biased in favor of the movie, but I think it would be a lot more for the story elements than the gameplay elements because yes, it would be really difficult to shoehorn Sora into a world where he fights dogs.
4) Who Framed Roger Rabbit? is an unorthodox choice, but that was kind of what I was going for. I think sometimes the best choices are the ones we don't expect, but I can understand the flip side to that. I mean, the PotC level in KH2 was pretty shitty even though it was rather unexpected soooooo I guess I can understand why WFRR might be a bad idea too!
Just clearing some stuff up. Honestly, I totally forgot about Pocahontas, and had I remembered, I definitely would have included it. Rest assured, there are definitely certain films that you guys have suggested that I do disagree with and at some point in the future, I totally plan on writing a new editorial about the Top 10 Disney franchises that shouldn't ever grace the KH series. So look forward to being able to argue about that at some point down the line!
i think the incredibles would fit in fine
it was a good movie with plenty of action and it wouldn't be the strangest choice
also
| I love the idea of Spirited Away now there is a KH world! |
spirited away isn't a disney movie. it was distributed by disney overseas, but i don't imagine disney would have the rights to it.
The Incredibles isn't appreciated like it should be. :c
i didn't know people thought it was a comparatively weak movie compared to pixar's other works
i would say that it is far from their worst work
The Incredibles is one of my favorite Pixar films. I haven't seen Cars 2 or Brave but I have heard that those are the two worst of Pixar's creations. Although people say similar things about The Incredibles but it's so good.
On the subject of The Incredibles fitting in: Mr. Incredible, your party member of the world, vs Super(or robot)-themed Heartless lured to that world by the darkness in Syndrome's heart which is caused by his hatred for Mr. Incredible. HOW THE FUCK WOULD THAT NOT "FIT" IN KINGDOM HEARTS??
The Incredibles is one of my favorite Pixar films. I haven't seen Cars 2 or Brave but I have heard that those are the two worst of Pixar's creations. Although people say similar things about The Incredibles but it's so good.
On the subject of The Incredibles fitting in: Mr. Incredible, your party member of the world, vs Super(or robot)-themed Heartless lured to that world by the darkness in Syndrome's heart which is caused by his hatred for Mr. Incredible. HOW THE diddly WOULD THAT NOT "FIT" IN KINGDOM HEARTS??
I feel like a lot of Brave's charm is lost on people who don't connect to the theme of the movie. The mother-daughter relationship was really well depicted and had me wanting to talk to my mom immediately after viewing.
Not to mention they could make Syndrome even more tragic and have him become what he hated, a "super-powered" human because he begins to use the Darkness.
I feel like a lot of Brave's charm is lost on people who don't connect to the theme of the movie. The mother-daughter relationship was really well depicted and had me wanting to talk to my mom immediately after viewing.
Yeah. Especially when your mother might be the only person you have. While I still don't find it the best film, after leaving the movie I just really wanted to spend time with my mom. The climax of the film is a very real fear.
Yeah. Especially when your mother might be the only person you have. While I still don't find it the best film, after leaving the movie I just really wanted to spend time with my mom. The climax of the film is a very real fear.
Exactly. I don't think it was Pixar's best, by far. But I found it incredibly touching and thoroughly enjoyable. That's a film I wouldn't mind seeing make its way into KH, somehow. Even if it were just depicted as an Easter Egg, like the Lady & the Tramp water fountain.
Speaking of Lady and the Tramp, that's a world that would have a hard time working in Kingdom Hearts.
There's no good guy or bad guy. It's just the theme of trust between Lady and Tramp. There could be a dog-catcher car themed Heartless akin to the Heartless you fight in Monstro that captures Lady. But for the communication between Sora & Co and the animals to work they would have to be dogs or cats. Or in Goofy's case: a turtle. Forever.
But the combat would probably be very similar to how Sora plays in The Pride Lands and the whole cage-heartless boss has been done already. They should try out a world that tackles fresh grounds.
Speaking of Lady and the Tramp, that's a world that would have a hard time working in Kingdom Hearts.
There's no good guy or bad guy. It's just the theme of trust between Lady and Tramp. There could be a dog-catcher car themed Heartless akin to the Heartless you fight in Monstro that captures Lady. But for the communication between Sora & Co and the animals to work they would have to be dogs or cats. Or in Goofy's case: a turtle. Forever.
But the combat would probably be very similar to how Sora plays in The Pride Lands and the whole cage-heartless boss has been done already. They should try out a world that tackles fresh grounds.
He'll be a smaller turtle, the size of large pitbull. If something like that happens, I feel like we'd be better off with a 101 Dalmatians world because at least then we'd have Cruella. Not to mention Roger and Anita are the best humans ever.
They should, though. A world that is fresh, I mean. I think we could get fresh with Robin Hood. We haven't been in a world where animals are extremely anthropomorphic like Robin Hood is. It'd be interesting to see what kind of animal Sora would be that is not related to a dolphin or a lion.
Or Jungle Book. I think those two are pretty unique to KH.
He'll be a smaller turtle, the size of large pitbull.
I like to imagine Donald turns him only into a turtle just to spite him for no reason. What if Donald turned himself INTO A DUCK? He came close to that in the Pride Lands. lol
| I feel like we'd be better off with a 101 Dalmatians world because at least then we'd have Cruella. |
| I think we could get fresh with Robin Hood. |
Hell yes we would. *wink*
| We haven't been in a world where animals are extremely anthropomorphic like Robin Hood is. It'd be interesting to see what kind of animal Sora would be that is not related to a dolphin or a lion. |
I would freak if they used Sora's original design just for that world.
Toy Story and The Incredibles are the primary Pixar films I want to see as worlds in Kingdom Hearts. Although I'd find it amusing if Nomura and Square Enix decided to include them due to "low demand" all because of a couple comments here on a message board.
;p
Return to Oz (seriously, think of the crazy heartless or whatever there could be!)
Pochahontas
More Cinderella, (less bibbidi Bobbidi boo playing constantly)
Black Cauldron
Tangled
Princess and the Frog
WAY less Aladdin, unless they do Aladdin 3.
More Fantasia, so much potential was squandered in 3d with this world.
Toy Story
(Maybe) a world based on Oz: the Great and Powerful.
^ Yes to everything except those relating to Wizard of Oz. I thought PotC worked, but really didn't work overall that well (now that it is there, I feel like they might as well revisit it, but I don't want them doing any other movies like it). However, any movies relating to Oz would just be...
On the topic of the Pixar films since I feel that is the most popular subject right now that has brought us about another 4 pages into this editorial:
- I do think The Incredibles was overall one of the weaker Pixar films, but it wasn't one of the worst. I think it was somewhere among the lower half of all Pixar films and I remember it got so much buzz when it first came out and I never understood why it was so popular, it never reached that level for me at least, but I do think it is great for Kingdom Hearts. Syndrome kept building robots that were better and could eventually rival and beat Mr. Incredible. In KH, he could meet SDG and realize that there isn't a way for him to beat them without the darkness, or so he thinks (cue Riku monologue).
- Wall-E could fit very well, I think it would be very interesting if SDG encountered the space ship flying through space since the world of Wall-E is pretty much a ship in outerspace, not really a world (unless they use Earth). They could just, as other have said, make a giant enemy attack the ship and take over Auto, thus piloting the ship and sending all those demons to their doom. Working with EVE is almost obvious in my opinion, and we could protect Wall-E as he delivers something that can save the ship and expel the enemy from within the ship's computer system, allowing SDG to take it down once it is expelled (I would prefer protecting Wall-E, we don't always have to protect a female you know).
- Same thing for Up, considering that movie is about them making it too another world, if SE doesn't want to use any other characters besides the main 3 Carl, Russell, and Doug, they could say their world was destroyed and they are using their balloon to make it to another world (anywhere else really, Traverse Town, Radiant Garden, etc.) and they could be a side mission for the game.
Wall-E sucks. Please don't make it a world. Serious-glee.
(UP too. Hate on me~(please don't))
Too late. >( jk
In all seriousness, whether a movie was good or bad doesnt mean it'll make a good or bad world, but the best things Wall-E has going for it was a lot actually happens on the Axiom and Ansem the Wise told Riku that just about anything has a heart. though I dont think he was thinking of robots, Plants are living things and guess what? All that trouble in the movie is for a plant. It changed into something environmental somewhere in production. Movies are weird that way.
Up would only work about as much, though that movie was way better. Even a teacher of mine who doesnt really like Animated movies loved it. but it helps she is a dog lover, and Carl is very similar to her late husband who was a nice guy, dry sense of humor, but never really smiled.
The Incredibles is one of my favorite Pixar films. I haven't seen Cars 2 or Brave but I have heard that those are the two worst of Pixar's creations. Although people say similar things about The Incredibles but it's so good.
On the subject of The Incredibles fitting in: Mr. Incredible, your party member of the world, vs Super(or robot)-themed Heartless lured to that world by the darkness in Syndrome's heart which is caused by his hatred for Mr. Incredible. HOW THE diddly WOULD THAT NOT "FIT" IN KINGDOM HEARTS??
Brave was a real step up from Cars 2 and I already argued that the formula for that movie would fit immensely well in KH.
Cars 2 forgot basically everything it's predecessor preached(story of the world really, but not something that fits well in sequels). It was decent enough, but definitely Pixar's worst. though realistically, they were gonna make a mistake eventually and rumor has it Disney was pressuring them for a Cars sequel while they simply wanted to do a spy movie.
It's just one of those movies that doesn't work in a video game (they attempted to in the movie-license game but DAAAAANG, did it suck)
It was still better than the UP licensed game, and I just played a demo for that one. Most memorable thing about wall-e was those Toy Story collectibles which-up until TS3-was the first time any of those characters were in HD on a consumer product.
^ Yes to everything except those relating to Wizard of Oz. I thought PotC worked, but really didn't work overall that well (now that it is there, I feel like they might as well revisit it, but I don't want them doing any other movies like it). However, any movies relating to Oz would just be...
What is it about Oz that wouldnt work for you?
I'm absolutely mystified as to how this post got to seven pages, but let me just clear a few things up real quick.
1) It's an editorial, and that denotes that it's an opinion piece. I'm not bagging on KH, and even if I was, it's an opinion piece. Feel free to disagree, but let's all be adult here and refrain from baseless insults.
2) I personally think that the Incredibles would fit in completely, but I guess that's just me? I dunno, for me, it doesn't seem like any more of a stretch than something like Toy Story haha.
3) As for Up, I guess I can see where people are coming from. I'm definitely biased in favor of the movie, but I think it would be a lot more for the story elements than the gameplay elements because yes, it would be really difficult to shoehorn Sora into a world where he fights dogs.
4) Who Framed Roger Rabbit? is an unorthodox choice, but that was kind of what I was going for. I think sometimes the best choices are the ones we don't expect, but I can understand the flip side to that. I mean, the PotC level in KH2 was pretty shitty even though it was rather unexpected soooooo I guess I can understand why WFRR might be a bad idea too!
Just clearing some stuff up. Honestly, I totally forgot about Pocahontas, and had I remembered, I definitely would have included it. Rest assured, there are definitely certain films that you guys have suggested that I do disagree with and at some point in the future, I totally plan on writing a new editorial about the Top 10 Disney franchises that shouldn't ever grace the KH series. So look forward to being able to argue about that at some point down the line!
lol, I know it's opinion based. This whole thing is opinion based really, there's no right or wrong answer. Some people think Wall-E and Wreck-It Ralph would be awesome as a world, I think it won't work. Neither of us wrong nor right.
Unfortunately this being the internet, we tend to forget stuff like that. Ah well.
And yes, I agree that Brave is a highly over-rated film. It may not be the best Pixar film, but it's not the worst either.
Some people think Wall-E and Wreck-It Ralph would be awesome as a world, I think it won't work.
It would be nice if you would say
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Have you been ignoring all of my posts or something? I've been saying why this whole time >_>
lol, I know it's opinion based. This whole thing is opinion based really, there's no right or wrong answer. Some people think Wall-E and Wreck-It Ralph would be awesome as a world, I think it won't work. Neither of us wrong nor right.
That is not the problem. The problem is your unwillingness to understand why things could be good. It's fine and dandy about how it "feels" but when people present plausible scenarios you brush it off and say "eh, still not enough" or "well just my opinion". I can say that at least when it came to Wall-E, most of us don't want to see it in KH, but we can still find ways for it to work.
| Unfortunately this being the internet, we tend to forget stuff like that. Ah well. |
You really need to stop this.
| And yes, I agree that Brave is a highly over-rated film. It may not be the best Pixar film, but it's not the worst either. |
Er, I don't think anybody praises Brave, though. It is widely accepted by the massive majority that it is not Pixar's best. Reviewers and regular movie goers alike agree. The only thing I've heard it praised for is it's ambitious and gorgeous animation, which was definitely some of Pixar's best work on that end.
Have you been ignoring all of my posts or something?
Well no seeing as I've responded to almost every single one of them because you think things don't fit "just cuz" and that makes me very upset.
| I've been saying why this whole time >_> |
You really haven't. Prove me wrong. Please.
Er, I don't think anybody praises Brave, though. It is widely accepted by the massive majority that it is not Pixar's best. Reviewers and regular movie goers alike agree. The only thing I've heard it praised for is it's ambitious and gorgeous animation, which was definitely some of Pixar's best work on that end.
To add to this, Brave has been widely accepted as "very good". It doesnt get a huge amount of praise, of course except the ambitious animation(I thought there was more, but I cant think of anything). Honestly, it doesnt turn any heads for creativity or memorable moments, but it does succeed and hasnt been too phased by the sudden change in directors midway through production.
What is it about Oz that wouldnt work for you?
I'm not a fan of live-action in KH (Tron worked purely because it could be passed off as a realistic computer program, I don't mind the style of the world just the idea that they are trying to replicate realistic people in a cartoon environment). Also, I don't see Wizard of Oz as a Disney property, I view it more like Star Wars and Marvel, and I'm opposed to both of those being in it as well because they aren't original Disney as far as I know (were the original Oz films and books all originally owned by Disney or merely bought by them?). I know Walt wanted to make a cartoon Oz film a long time ago, but that never came to fruition so I don't think they should use Oz: The Great and Powerful as a substitution for that or something...
That is not the problem. The problem is your unwillingness to understand why things could be good. It's fine and dandy about how it "feels" but when people present plausible scenarios you brush it off and say "eh, still not enough" or "well just my opinion". I can say that at least when it came to Wall-E, most of us don't want to see it in KH, but we can still find ways for it to work.
And what's wrong with stating "Well, its my opinion and I'll stick to it?" I'm not gonna flat-out say "I'm wrong" because I don't believe that at all. Seriously, what else do you want me to say? Even if you bring up "valid" (and I say valid in HUGE quotation marks) points doesn't mean I have to suddenly say "Okay, now I want Wall-E in KH!" or "No, I'm totally wrong." We both bring up points, neither opinion changes, and that's that. Honestly, what do you want me to do?
You really need to stop this.
Stop what? Posting an awesome gif of Walt Disney giving a 'haters gonna hate' walk?
Er, I don't think anybody praises Brave, though. It is widely accepted by the massive majority that it is not Pixar's best. Reviewers and regular movie goers alike agree. The only thing I've heard it praised for is it's ambitious and gorgeous animation, which was definitely some of Pixar's best work on that end.
What does people praising Brave have to do with this? I just saw in the last page someone commenting about how Brave was under-rated and I just agreed to that comment. And I just said "it may not be the best pixar film" so I'm really confused as to why you think I'm "praising" it or whatever.
You really haven't. Prove me wrong. Please.
Are you flipping kidding me? I explained that Wreck-It Ralph wouldn't work because that would be a cameo-based movie based on video games based on a cameo-based video game based on movies. It's a freakin' paradox. The whole discussion about Wall-E, I've been saying why it wouldn't work. I explained that very little happens in the movie and that it would just be a boring world in general to visit to. I discussed the point about "use Auto as a boss" and saying that just because there is one character as a boss doesn't mean that suddenly the whole story can work. Then someone said, "don't use the movie's story" to which I replied to just use the character Wall-E and not even bother with the world.
You guys say "Oh, it's because your not bringing up points, you're just saying 'it don't feel right.'" I may have said "It doesn't feel right," but I've supported it with points in my posts, but you guys think that for some reason I should just say "I'm wrong" or whatever it is you guys want me to do just because the majority of the forum is arguing against me.
Now I remember why I barely go to khinsider lately. You don't agree with the majority's opinion, and they throw some bullcrap that you're "not giving any reasons" when in reality they just hate that you have a different opinion >_>
I'm not a fan of live-action in KH (Tron worked purely because it could be passed off as a realistic computer program, I don't mind the style of the world just the idea that they are trying to replicate realistic people in a cartoon environment). Also, I don't see Wizard of Oz as a Disney property, I view it more like Star Wars and Marvel, and I'm opposed to both of those being in it as well because they aren't original Disney as far as I know (were the original Oz films and books all originally owned by Disney or merely bought by them?). I know Walt wanted to make a cartoon Oz film a long time ago, but that never came to fruition so I don't think they should use Oz: The Great and Powerful as a substitution for that or something...
Agreed. It's the same problem I have with people suggesting to use Burton's Alice in Wonderland, only that's even worse because Alice in Wonderland is already an established world in KH so it'd just be a massive retcon.
Are you flipping kidding me? I explained that Wreck-It Ralph wouldn't work because that would be a cameo-based movie based on video games based on a cameo-based video game based on movies. It's a freakin' paradox.
Have you even seen the movie? The easiest way to fix that problem to make it work is if the world's story begins when Ralph goes to Sugar Rush. There are zero cameos there at all. Kingdom Hearts worlds have always worked like that. If the story is too long they focus on the movie when it's already halfway done with. In fact that's how almost all of the world's stories work.
| You guys say "Oh, it's because your not bringing up points, you're just saying 'it don't feel right.'" I may have said "It doesn't feel right," but I've supported it with points in my posts, but you guys think that for some reason I should just say "I'm wrong" or whatever it is you guys want me to do just because the majority of the forum is arguing against me. |
We don't care if you're right or I'm wrong (Seriously, is that what you think about whenever you post something? Agreeing with someone isn't the same thing as saying "I guess that sounds right. I am not a smart individual and I admit defeat), but when you come into a thread about discussion and just say, "Nah, that wouldn't work." people will become upset because you are trying to make them sound wrong based off of thin air.
If you can prove someone wrong based off of facts instead of your opinions RIGHT OFF THE BAT then there wouldn't have been any problems. It's only escalated to this point because you've made it very VERY difficult to actually shoehorn in why you thinks things are unable to fit.
| Now I remember why I barely go to khinsider lately. You don't agree with the majority's opinion, and they throw some bullcrap that you're "not giving any reasons" when in reality they just hate that you have a different opinion >_> |
If you can't handle expanding upon your own opinion then you might want to reconsider discussing anything at all.
It helps if you state why you think things right away as to avoid THIS kind of situation.
i think they should put more classsics :)
The three of you, no more bickering. It's done. This is your warning.
I never heard of walt wanting to make a cartoon Oz, but he did try for a feature length Alice in Wonderland with a live action actress.
Now, saying wreck-it ralph is cameo based is actually flat out wrong. It would have to have the cameos holding up everything in the story when you see them more on posters. That's not basing anything, as marketing is meant to sell and not represent a movie.
edit: I realize I'm bickering just a little, and I'm done.
i think they should put more classsics :)
Which ones? Personally I want to see Robin Hood or the Sword in the Stone
Sword in the Stone and Robin Hood are great. I think 101 Dalmatians and Dumbo and.......well, Bambi might need a little thought. The package films might not be too bad either, though that's more for characters than worlds.
You know what I think would be the number one Disney film that should not be in KH3? Remember the Titans. lol
Even if Square wanted to put it in it was only distributed by Disney. Like Spirited Away.
You will never have a football summon in KH3. tfw
You know what I think would be the number one Disney film that should not be in KH3? Remember the Titans. lol
Even if Square wanted to put it in it was only distributed by Disney. Like Spirited Away.
You will never have a football summon in KH3. tfw
We should have a World Fantastista world in KH 8D
The other kind of football. KH3: Birth by Sports.
was just trying to make a funny because SE made a random soccer game but okay
Uhh yeah that's why I said the other kind of football.
Which ones? Personally I want to see Robin Hood or the Sword in the Stone
This. Robin Hood is one of my top wants for world right now despite it not being anywhere near the top of my favorite Disney movies. I would love Sora to be the odd one out (since he isn't a talking animal) with nobody knowing what Sora is or why he is talking lol xP
this was probably already said, but Dinosaur would look awesome, it would put the characters in a new place.
but they wont do that.
roger rabbit could work as a mini game where you look for clues throughout the worlds, like in wonderland in game one. and once you free him he becomes a summon, imagine Roger and Genie working together?
and how is everyone forgetting that disney owns star wars and marvel?
and what about going to actual Disneyland? fighting Pirates and Haunted Mansion, Space Mountain and the Matterhorn?
while were at it get Oswald involved.
and how is everyone forgetting that disney owns star wars and marvel?
Trust me when I say that no one on these forums has forgotten that. The majority of users here just don't agree that either Star Wars of Marvel would suit KH.
and how is everyone forgetting that disney owns star wars and marvel?
Trust, we have not forgotten. We have even reported on these things. We are choosing to ignore it.
| and what about going to actual Disneyland? fighting Pirates and Haunted Mansion, Space Mountain and the Matterhorn? |
There is a Disney book series based on an idea like this...sorta. I'm pretty certain there would be a few right issues if something like this was to happen
Even so, Square Enix has found ways to feature Disney park things in the games (the benches in Disney Town in BBS are the same ones that are on the outside of Disney parks actually, and there are more I'm not thinking of atm...something like Nomura based something off Disneyland something...) but most of these things have movies made after them so the movies would be sooner used before the rides they were based on.
| while were at it get Oswald involved. |
Something always wanted. Always.
If they ever make the Kingdom Keepers book series into a movie there would be a possibility of that being in a Kingdom Hearts game. It's been pitched several times by Ridley Pearson but has yet to go through.
I would love for Oswald to be in a future game. He could pose as one of Yen Sid's eldest students. Back when he was an actual Master.
Some of these ideas are really good, but half of them are Pixar and Studio Ghibli, Disney didn't make those movies, they only produced them.
but Disney only produced it! They had NOTHING to do with the making of the movie! Hayao Miazaki did that, and continues to do an AMAZING job with the movies he makes, but to let Disney have the credit for that isn't right
Some of these ideas are really good, but half of them are Pixar and Studio Ghibli, Disney didn't make those movies, they only produced them.
but Disney only produced it! They had NOTHING to do with the making of the movie! Hayao Miazaki did that, and continues to do an AMAZING job with the movies he makes, but to let Disney have the credit for that isn't right
What are you talking about? Disney doesn't have the credit for making any Ghibli films.
Some of these ideas are really good, but half of them are Pixar and Studio Ghibli, Disney didn't make those movies, they only produced them.
but Disney only produced it! They had NOTHING to do with the making of the movie! Hayao Miazaki did that, and continues to do an AMAZING job with the movies he makes, but to let Disney have the credit for that isn't right
Everyone is already aware that they only produced them, but the Disney label alone gives them equal chance (at least in the case of Pixar, as Woody and Buzz were originally going to be summons in KH2 and have models to prove it). No one is insinuating that Disney deserves all the credit for Ghibli films at all, let alone.. mentioning it in the first place.
1. Marvel Universe(Sora and His Friends teaming up with Marvel's famous Superheroes to take down the villains).
2. Star Wars Universe(Sora and his friends teaming up with the Star Wars gang).
3 Tangled
4. Pixar Universe(Sora and Friends going to Worlds where they meet the Pixar Characters such as Woody Filk Buzz Sulley and Mike Marlin Nemo Dory and other characters).
5. The Black Cauldron
6. Meet the Robinsons(Sora and Friends going to the Future year 2037)
7. Jungle Book
8.Treasure Planet
9. Pocahontas
10. The Princess and the Frog
11. Lady and the Tramp
12. Great Mouse Detective
13 Robin Hood
14. Dinosaur( Sora and Friends transported to a Land of Dinosaurs in Which he and the Gang are Dinos too.)
15. Emperor's New Groove
16. Atlantis
17 Brother Bear
18. Chicken Little
19. Bolt
20. Wreck It Ralph(Sora and the Gang are in a world Called Game Central Station in which different Video Game Characters are and go into different video games.)
21. Home on the Range
22. Bambi
23. Dumbo
24. Sky High(Sora and Friends dressed as Superheroes at Sky High).
25 G-Force(Sora and Friends are gerbils helping Darwin and the Gang)
26. John Carter
27. Oz the Great and Powerful
28. Frozen
29. Disney Television Universe(Sora and Friends in a Disney TV Universe in Which meets different Disney Channel Characters such as Jake Long, Kim Possible, Phineas and Ferb, Penny Proud, Dipper and Mabel and all others.
30. Oliver and Company.
Guys this isn't the worlds thread.
If you want to post your world ideas here, you need to explain how it would fit into the Kingdom Hearts universe.
1. Marvel Universe(Sora and His Friends teaming up with Marvel's famous Superheroes to take down the villains).
2. Star Wars Universe(Sora and his friends teaming up with the Star Wars gang).
3 Tangled
4. Pixar Universe(Sora and Friends going to Worlds where they meet the Pixar Characters such as Woody Filk Buzz Sulley and Mike Marlin Nemo Dory and other characters).
5. The Black Cauldron
6. Meet the Robinsons(Sora and Friends going to the Future year 2037)
7. Jungle Book
8.Treasure Planet
9. Pocahontas
10. The Princess and the Frog
11. Lady and the Tramp
12. Great Mouse Detective
13 Robin Hood
14. Dinosaur( Sora and Friends transported to a Land of Dinosaurs in Which he and the Gang are Dinos too.)
15. Emperor's New Groove
16. Atlantis
17 Brother Bear
18. Chicken Little
19. Bolt
20. Wreck It Ralph(Sora and the Gang are in a world Called Game Central Station in which different Video Game Characters are and go into different video games.)
21. Home on the Range
22. Bambi
23. Dumbo
24. Sky High(Sora and Friends dressed as Superheroes at Sky High).
25 G-Force(Sora and Friends are gerbils helping Darwin and the Gang)
26. John Carter
27. Oz the Great and Powerful
28. Frozen
29. Disney Television Universe(Sora and Friends in a Disney TV Universe in Which meets different Disney Channel Characters such as Jake Long, Kim Possible, Phineas and Ferb, Penny Proud, Dipper and Mabel and all others.
30. Oliver and Company.
If you want to post ideas, explain why you would like the worlds to be included.
Let's just forget about those first two... -.- (do you want worlds or universes with many worlds?)
I would like for that world to be included, but I can't explain why, I haven't actually seen the movie.
It doesn't have to be an entire universe, a couple of worlds are enough.
I loved that movie! And it's so obvious what the plot would be.
It's obvious that there's some potential there, but it should be left out to leave place to better worlds.
Yes!
Even more yes!
A little bit less yes!
Haven't seen it yet.
Please explain to me how that would work, dog catcher heartless?
Getting shrunk down to mouse size, yes!
That's probably one of the movies that already have good chances to be included, robbing a castle without getting seen!
Dinosaur with a keyblade!
All kinds of animals with keyblade!
Great idea! Don't know why, just yes!
Bear with keyblade!
I really don't like that movie, just because he was in KH2 doesn't mean his homeworld should be included (in KH3 at least)
Most non-pixar disney animated movies are just terrible...
It's been discussed on this thread before, personally I would love that world.
Would you be a cow in that world or what?
Old disney classics :)
I love that movie but just because it's disney it doesn't mean it would automatically make a good world. I see it more like a, well, same thing as PotC.
Gerbils with keyblade! Wait...
Haven't seen it.
Hasn't even been released yet.
Only time will tell.
Again, doesn't need an entire universe, just worlds.
Would work, but it's a little bit too much connected to the real, non-KH world.
I didn't put in reasons for all my statements, but some are written somewhere else in detail (couldn't put all of them here, wall-of-text-warning)
Some are pretty obvious
Some of these ideas are really good, but half of them are Pixar and Studio Ghibli, Disney didn't make those movies, they only produced them.
but Disney only produced it! They had NOTHING to do with the making of the movie! Hayao Miazaki did that, and continues to do an AMAZING job with the movies he makes, but to let Disney have the credit for that isn't right
I just want to note that Pixar is fully owned by Disney, therefore Disney gets credit for anything they make.
Btw i just found out roger rabbit is owned by spielberg still.
Btw i just found out roger rabbit is owned by spielberg still.
Welp there we go! No Roger Rabbit in our future (thank the gods I hate Roger Rabbit)
p-p-p-p-please! What did he do to make youhate him?
Spielberg's Amblin actually owns half the character rights of Roger Rabbit.
That being said, Disney still needs their permission to go ahead with it.
p-p-p-p-please! What did he do to make youhate him?
Just never liked the movie. Nobody could make me watch it as a child and when I tried to see it as an adult it was just an irritating experience.
Btw i just found out roger rabbit is owned by spielberg still.
Does Speilberg just own Roger Rabbit himself or the whole movie? Because I think seeing Jessica Rabbit in a world would be cool if her world got destroyed. She fits in Traverse Town imo.
Well, Disney is still allowed to have the Roger Rabbit ride at Disneyland, so its possible we could at most get a cameo from him
I'm not particularly fond of Roger Rabbit either, but that thing he does when he goes apesh** after drinking alcohol would be pretty usefull in a battle as a summon. Obviously it would have to be something different than alcohol.
Just never liked the movie. Nobody could make me watch it as a child and when I tried to see it as an adult it was just an irritating experience.
Yeah, I was kinda joking :P It's not my favorite movie either but I know why people like it.
Does Speilberg just own Roger Rabbit himself or the whole movie? Because I think seeing Jessica Rabbit in a world would be cool if her world got destroyed. She fits in Traverse Town imo.
I direct you to this
Spielberg's Amblin actually owns half the character rights of Roger Rabbit.
That being said, Disney still needs their permission to go ahead with it.
Hope that clears a few things up. It's still a bit in the air, though.
Hope that clears a few things up. It's still a bit in the air, though.
That does, when I first read through it I missed the "character" before rights, so that is why I asked xP I'm okay with that as I like Jessica Rabbit much more than Roger himself...
Well when I say "character rights of Roger Rabbit", I meant the unique characters under the entire WFRR? universe, not just Roger himself.
So Jessica Rabbit would be included and Disney would definitely need permission from Amblin. That being said, I don't think Jessica would ever appear without Roger anyway.
That does, when I first read through it I missed the "character" before rights, so that is why I asked xP I'm okay with that as I like Jessica Rabbit much more than Roger himself...
Jessica Rabbit's too sexy. She alone would give KH a Teen rating. :P
The top ten I'd want are:
10. Toy Story
9. Jungle Book
8. Tangled
7. Black Cauldron
6. Robin Hood
5. The Incredibles
4. The Emorer's New Groove
3. Atlantis
2. Treasure Planet
1. Brave
Again, if you plan on providing a list please give reasons why. If you just want to list worlds you can do so in the Worlds of Kingdom Hearts thread
I think Incredibles is actually one of the better options for a franchise. Lately, in Disney worlds, we've just been talking to characters in cut scenes, and then they disappear. Most of the characters wouldn't seem to be very useful in a fight anyway. They have the chance to change that with an Incredibles world. Not only do the characters actually have combat worth, but I can imagine exploring the world post game and seeing characters fight random bad guys in the background, possibly giving you the option to jump in and help
So Jessica Rabbit would be included and Disney would definitely need permission from Amblin. That being said, I don't think Jessica would ever appear without Roger anyway.
Darn. Well, I hope Amblin would be lenient with all their rights because I sure would love to see them in the game. I think Roger would be a funny summon, and if you don't include any real world characters from that film, I could see it working.
Jessica Rabbit's too sexy. She alone would give KH a Teen rating. :P
I think it would be really funny if Sora and Donald starting fighting over her, only for Roger to come into the picture and crush their hopes xP
I think Incredibles is actually one of the better options for a franchise. Lately, in Disney worlds, we've just been talking to characters in cut scenes, and then they disappear. Most of the characters wouldn't seem to be very useful in a fight anyway. They have the chance to change that with an Incredibles world. Not only do the characters actually have combat worth, but I can imagine exploring the world post game and seeing characters fight random bad guys in the background, possibly giving you the option to jump in and help
that's actually a pretty neat idea. i do love the characters from the incredibles and the atmospheres would work great. post-game could be really interesting.
which is another thing the series needs to work on: you should be encouraged to to back to worlds even after beating the story-related elements. there should be reasons for you to go back.
which is another thing the series needs to work on: you should be encouraged to to back to worlds even after beating the story-related elements. there should be reasons for you to go back.
I completely agree that there needs to be better draws as opposed to a few Treasure Chests and maybe an exclusive enemy that drops a certain item that you need for synthesizing. Do you think they should do that Incredibles idea for most worlds or make it a world-exclusive thing with each world having their own post-game gimmick. I'm almost inclined to think that ever world should have their own unique idea, but then I fear that some worlds will have much better post-game content than others.
well some worlds already have had gimmicks
olypus colloseum- tournament kh 1 &2
pride lands- lion form kh2
atlantica- swim kh1/ music kh2(not as good)
neverland- flying kh1
100 acre wood- minigames kh1,2, com (other worlds have them as well but this is the main place for this)
some worlds alternate costumes are enough for some people
I'm sure there are other examples but there
well some worlds already have had gimmicks
olypus colloseum- tournament kh 1 &2
pride lands- lion form kh2
atlantica- swim kh1/ music kh2(not as good)
neverland- flying kh1
100 acre wood- minigames kh1,2, com (other worlds have them as well but this is the main place for this)
some worlds alternate costumes are enough for some people
I'm sure there are other examples but there
The only two I would seriously count out of that list are 100 Acre Wood and Olympus Colloseum. Costumes might be enough for some people, but those people are far and few between. I would much rather prefer an actual reason to go back, not just a way to run around, the novelty wears off fast for me. Sure there were bosses in some worlds, which is great in my opinion, but after the bosses are over with. I think there should be some other thing to keep you there.
neverland di have the clock tower, but yeah doing something with the characters should probably be the focus there. Also, Neverland and Agrabah had hidden bosses in KH1.
Post game could include a lot of smaller side missions in every world with the difficulty increased by a noticeable amount
Post game could include a lot of smaller side missions in every world with the difficulty increased by a noticeable amount
I was thinking about that, but the way I see it. With so many worlds, I would hope it wouldn't get too tedious to go and do so many different side missions. A few big side missions that involve a few worlds each wouldn't be too bad in my opinion.
Road to eldorado I could see that priest man conjering some crazy heartless
been looking through here seen alot on robin hood at first I thought please no
then people saying what stand up animal will he be to fit in, somehow donald and goofy fit in with humans so why should sora change
finally someone stated that it would be an excuse to use sora's original character design, wait what!?!, I am definatly on board! Nouruma NEEDS to do this!
Road to eldorado I could see that priest man conjering some crazy heartless
Dream works.
finally someone stated that it would be an excuse to use sora's original character design, wait what!?!, I am definatly on board! Nouruma NEEDS to do this!
Sora's original design wouldn't make him fit in any better.
Does Speilberg just own Roger Rabbit himself or the whole movie? Because I think seeing Jessica Rabbit in a world would be cool if her world got destroyed. She fits in Traverse Town imo.
I agree Jessica would make a great cameo background character for a world like Traverse Town. She'd fit in with the feeling of the world. Don't really see it happening after all the worlds have been restored.
I think Incredibles is actually one of the better options for a franchise. Lately, in Disney worlds, we've just been talking to characters in cut scenes, and then they disappear. Most of the characters wouldn't seem to be very useful in a fight anyway. They have the chance to change that with an Incredibles world. Not only do the characters actually have combat worth, but I can imagine exploring the world post game and seeing characters fight random bad guys in the background, possibly giving you the option to jump in and help
Yeah I agree, but if we can play in that world, I'd kinda want the whole family as party members or at least two of them. Your idea for post game content is also pretty cool. Would certainly make revisiting that world worth it. Would be fun if they had a form of villain of the week storyline to go with it. They could also further explore the characters in these side quests.
I completely agree that there needs to be better draws as opposed to a few Treasure Chests and maybe an exclusive enemy that drops a certain item that you need for synthesizing. Do you think they should do that Incredibles idea for most worlds or make it a world-exclusive thing with each world having their own post-game gimmick. I'm almost inclined to think that ever world should have their own unique idea, but then I fear that some worlds will have much better post-game content than others.
I think each world would need it's own gimmick. The fighting in the background works very well for The Incredibles, seeing they're superheros. It wouldn't work so well for say Snow White's world. I think each world should have their own type of side quest. This would give the worlds some more diversity in the post game. For instance in one you need to diliver a package or find some things etc. It would also be nice if we could see what's going on in the world after the crises has been dealt with.
Post game could include a lot of smaller side missions in every world with the difficulty increased by a noticeable amount
That would be fun. But should the difficulty rise within the individual worlds or for all the worlds?
A return to Timeless River, now that Disney owns Oswald again. That'd be too awesome
I'd prefer if Timeless River stayed a one trick pony, honestly. It was a very cool world and repeated use would only diminish its initial effect.
I don't know... I think this world could be reused in a non boring/ seen it before way. Last time the world somewhat focused on Pete vs Mickey, I think if this time the world focused on the rivalry of Mickey and Oswald (a la Epic Mickey) I think it could be really cool.
One of the reasons that Timeless Rive and Space Paronoids were such good levels in my opinion was that it made sense in the story as to why these specific worlds were being traveled to.
I'd prefer if Timeless River stayed a one trick pony, honestly. It was a very cool world and repeated use would only diminish its initial effect.
This, though Timeless River really only included shorts from one era. I seriously doubt there's much reason to do a world for Disney shorts from the 40s and 50s though.
I never liked the Oswald the Lucky Rabbit shorts, but I like the modern take on Oswald more so I'd rather see Oswald just appear in Disney Castle/Disney Town.
I pesonally never saw the shorts, but I should probably get the treasures dvd or something.
I pesonally never saw the shorts, but I should probably get the treasures dvd or something.
You should They are a great piece of history to have. I bought the 1920s-1960s shorts one with my Disney Movie Club discount and plan to get more eventually. (But not the Oswald one. I just cannot do it xD)
Personally I just want worlds that make sense within the context of the plot. Really only two Disney worlds have ever actually linked directly with the plot, Timeless River and Space Paronoids. It made sense that when we needed to find out what happened to the cornerstone of light, we went back in time Timeless River, and when we were sucked into the computer, we ended up in Tron's world.
Any other worlds could have simply been replaced with other Disney stories and the main plot could have continued unfazed. This has really been one of my biggest complaints with the series, is that the actual Disney stories seem shoe horned in after the plot was written out.
Personally I just want worlds that make sense within the context of the plot. Really only two Disney worlds have ever actually linked directly with the plot, Timeless River and Space Paronoids. It made sense that when we needed to find out what happened to the cornerstone of light, we went back in time Timeless River, and when we were sucked into the computer, we ended up in Tron's world.
That is the exact problem with using Timeless River again. Having Sora and co. go back through the door to the past for some reason would just seem like they are milking whatever they can get out of the world. It worked very well in the story once, but I would have to disagree with repeated uses. Also, I don't know if I agree with you about the "any world could be replaced." I mean, Timeless River and Tron could have also been replaced I feel. Timeless River was based on Steamboat Willie, sure, but they could have tapped into countless other parts of Mickey's past to use, they didn't have to use Steamboat Willie so I don't think it was irreplaceable. Tron on the other hand, I felt worked well, but if Disney had never made Tron, I feel like they probably could have bypassed that segment in the game.
That is the exact problem with using Timeless River again. Having Sora and co. go back through the door to the past for some reason would just seem like they are milking whatever they can get out of the world. It worked very well in the story once, but I would have to disagree with repeated uses. Also, I don't know if I agree with you about the "any world could be replaced." I mean, Timeless River and Tron could have also been replaced I feel. Timeless River was based on Steamboat Willie, sure, but they could have tapped into countless other parts of Mickey's past to use, they didn't have to use Steamboat Willie so I don't think it was irreplaceable. Tron on the other hand, I felt worked well, but if Disney had never made Tron, I feel like they probably could have bypassed that segment in the game.
Well, if we're being realistic, they've never shied away from miking series before, for better or for worse...
Timeless River was based on more than just Steamboat Willie however. It was more of a culmination of several of Mickey's old cartoons They just happened to end the world with Steamboat. Really, I just want to see Oswald used in some sense, and I feel a return to Timeless river, where we need to interact with the old Oswald to effect the modern Oswald would be great.
As for Tron, I agree. I honestly feel it (along with Timeless River) made sense as to why we had to travel there. I'm not sure what you mean when you say "
I don't know if I agree with you about the "any world could be replaced." I mean, Timeless River and Tron could have also been replaced I feel."
Within the context of the story, the Disney worlds really had no actual impact on the plot, and I think this is exemplified by the fact that you can travel to them in a semi-random order. As for the worlds themselves, you could have easily replaced Agrabah with a Robin Hood world, or replace Nightmare Before Christmas with Dumbo.
So to answer the original question in somewhat of a cheap way, I just want 10 worlds (preferably one that includes Oswald, MAYBE Timeless River), that actually have an impact on the plot outside of their respective stories.
You should They are a great piece of history to have. I bought the 1920s-1960s shorts one with my Disney Movie Club discount and plan to get more eventually. (But not the Oswald one. I just cannot do it xD)
already ordered mine. Well, I got the Oswald and Mickey Mouse in B&W Vol.2 cuz I already have vol.1. Didnt find any others I needed and I try not to spend too much anyway
That is the exact problem with using Timeless River again. Having Sora and co. go back through the door to the past for some reason would just seem like they are milking whatever they can get out of the world. It worked very well in the story once, but I would have to disagree with repeated uses. Also, I don't know if I agree with you about the "any world could be replaced." I mean, Timeless River and Tron could have also been replaced I feel. Timeless River was based on Steamboat Willie, sure, but they could have tapped into countless other parts of Mickey's past to use, they didn't have to use Steamboat Willie so I don't think it was irreplaceable. Tron on the other hand, I felt worked well, but if Disney had never made Tron, I feel like they probably could have bypassed that segment in the game.
This. Disney shorts may be a treasure trove, and they certainly use more than just steamboat willie(which was the primary focus, of course) but there's only so many excuses that can be used to...well....use them. And DDD adds to the confusion by not only introducing another method of time travel with much stricter rules, but also proving that each world can have copies from different eras(i.e. symphony of Sorcery, literally everything in africa and europe)
Well, if we're being realistic, they've never shied away from miking series before, for better or for worse...
Timeless River was based on more than just Steamboat Willie however. It was more of a culmination of several of Mickey's old cartoons They just happened to end the world with Steamboat. Really, I just want to see Oswald used in some sense, and I feel a return to Timeless river, where we need to interact with the old Oswald to effect the modern Oswald would be great.
As for Tron, I agree. I honestly feel it (along with Timeless River) made sense as to why we had to travel there. I'm not sure what you mean when you say "
I don't know if I agree with you about the "any world could be replaced." I mean, Timeless River and Tron could have also been replaced I feel."
Within the context of the story, the Disney worlds really had no actual impact on the plot, and I think this is exemplified by the fact that you can travel to them in a semi-random order. As for the worlds themselves, you could have easily replaced Agrabah with a Robin Hood world, or replace Nightmare Before Christmas with Dumbo.
So to answer the original question in somewhat of a cheap way, I just want 10 worlds (preferably one that includes Oswald, MAYBE Timeless River), that actually have an impact on the plot outside of their respective stories.
To be fair, KH1 actually did that with the Disney worlds, at least when it was still about Maleficent and her plot to take over everything.
Well, if we're being realistic, they've never shied away from miking series before, for better or for worse...
lol I took that "if we're being realistic" the wrong way and thought you meant that none of what we were saying is supposed to be true...xP
| As for Tron, I agree. I honestly feel it (along with Timeless River) made sense as to why we had to travel there. I'm not sure what you mean when you say " I don't know if I agree with you about the "any world could be replaced." I mean, Timeless River and Tron could have also been replaced I feel." |
I meant that I didn't agree with you statement about how any world but Tron and Timeless River could be replaced because I thought that all of them could be replaced, including Tron and Timeless River lol (at least in KH2)
Within the context of the story, the Disney worlds really had no actual impact on the plot, and I think this is exemplified by the fact that you can travel to them in a semi-random order. As for the worlds themselves, you could have easily replaced Agrabah with a Robin Hood world, or replace Nightmare Before Christmas with Dumbo. |
In KH2 they didn't really affect the story, but in KH1 they did (I mean, Kairi in Neverland, learning of friendship in Deep Jungle, etc.). The problem with the Disney worlds in general is that you are tied down by the characters and their motives so SE can't really go too far out with the stories and make them so extremely relevant to the story. I mean, making the characters out of story or making the stories too far off-base would just be too weird so SE does have problems facing them, I think they do a very admirable job given what they have :)
As for Oswald, I can see a number of ways of bringing him up that doesn't include going back in time. Yensid could have more apprentices we don't know about off the top of my head.
In KH2 they didn't really affect the story, but in KH1 they did (I mean, Kairi in Neverland, learning of friendship in Deep Jungle, etc.). The problem with the Disney worlds in general is that you are tied down by the characters and their motives so SE can't really go too far out with the stories and make them so extremely relevant to the story. I mean, making the characters out of story or making the stories too far off-base would just be too weird so SE does have problems facing them, I think they do a very admirable job given what they have :)
I agree and think that this has been the unfortunate truth of Kingdom Hearts since the very beginning. It's big draw was that it mixes Square and Disney, which to an extent it does, but after KH1 (which I agree had the best mixture of Disney and Square, and for that reason I think is the best KH) the Disney parts seem to be an afterthought so that the Square influences (I personally include Org. XII and the Keyblade Masters as Square aspects of the series) can have more of the focus.
My fear with KH3 is that now there are so many loose ends on the Square side that need to be tied up that, save for Maleficient and Pete, Disney might get the cold shoulder again in the overarching plot (unless the game ends up being 70 hours long).
I would like to see TV series universes (ones not necessarily based on more well known films) such as Duck Tales, TaleSpin, and the Rescue Rangers involved somehow.
Also considering how awesome the 'Tron: Uprising' series on DXD is right now, that could work. As might Motor City or Slugterra.
Also how about Gravity Falls and Phineas and Ferb? Very clever shows with varied plots and interesting characters.
I would like to see TV series universes (ones not necessarily based on more well known films) such as Duck Tales, TaleSpin, and the Rescue Rangers involved somehow.
Also considering how awesome the 'Tron: Uprising' series on DXD is right now, that could work. As might Motor City or Slugterra.
Also how about Gravity Falls and Phineas and Ferb? Very clever shows with varied plots and interesting characters.
Tron Uprising would be perfect! SO PERFECT! Imagine a fight against Dyson or Cyrus!
I would like to see TV series universes (ones not necessarily based on more well known films) such as Duck Tales, TaleSpin, and the Rescue Rangers involved somehow.
Also considering how awesome the 'Tron: Uprising' series on DXD is right now, that could work. As might Motor City or Slugterra.
Also how about Gravity Falls and Phineas and Ferb? Very clever shows with varied plots and interesting characters.
As much as I love most of those shows I really don't think they would fit well with KH. Although, Tron uprising could be nice to see in KH3
1.
Lilo and stitch (yes i agree sooo much)
2.
Brave
3.
Tangled
4.
Spirited Away
yeah thats all i got so far,..but as for a returning world..i'd like to see more nightmare before christmas , because i never get bored of that town.
1. Lady and the Tramp 2: Scamp's Adventure
2. Bambi
3. The Rescuers Down Under
WORLDS
- NOMANISAN ISLAND /+ city (The Incredibles)
- MONSTROPOLIS (Monsters Inc.)
- ATLANTIS (Atlantis)
- TREASURE PLANET /+ ship (Treasure Planet)
- THE HIGHLANDS (Brave)
- PARADISE FALLS (UP)
- KUZCO'S EMPIRE (The Emperor's New Groove)
- DOWN UNDER (Rescuers Down Under)
- SUNNYSIDE /+ Andy's house + Sid's house + Al's apartment-elevator + Al's Toy Barn (Toy Story)
- ??? (Wreck-It Ralph)
- NOTRE DAME (The Hunchback Of Notre Dame)
- HOLLOW BASTION
- TWILIGHT TOWN
- CREEPY FINAL WORLD
SUMMONS
- BUZZ LIGHTYEAR (Toy Story)
- EVE (Wall-E)
- LONG JOHN SILVER (Treasure Planet)
- SONIC (Wreck-It Ralph)
DIDN'T INCLUDE X BECAUSE:
- LILO & STITCH
I think there is absolutely nothing to do action-wise that isn't in any way related to the deep space cast. So, bottom line, the first three quarters of the movie will not be great in game and the world will lack content.
- ROBIN HOOD
I was tempted to include it, but I decided otherwise in favour of Brave. The story isn't the same, but eh. Archery in two similar contexts. Again, same reason why I didn't bother adding-
- SWORD IN THE STONE
...because if it doesn't rely on it's scenario to characterize it, it becomes one of those worlds where you turn into an animal. It's overall not really meant for Kingdom Hearts. Besides, if it were, Merlin would have said so in the film.
- WHO FRAMED ROGER RABBIT
Eh... It's not a must, it's okay. But considering the number of worlds I chose, if one of them had to be sacrificed in order for this to fit in, I wouldn't be happy.
- JUNGLE BOOK
Nothing much to add to Kingdom Hearts. All it's hinges have already been exploited in previous games. Similar reason as Lilo & Stitch, except without the beautiful scenery aspect. It's mostly trees and plants.
- THE FOX AND THE HOUND
Same as Sword in the Stone, I want to be Sora, not a combat-trained Beagle with a grey cardigan and a rapper chain, accompanied by a... duck... and, well... a bipedal dog who apparently isn't happy on two legs and has to become some sort of a lesser animal to stay within the boundaries of social equality.
- TANGLED
Same as Jungle Book. Seen it all.
- PRINCESS AND THE FROG
Same as Tangled.
- POCAHONTAS
The plot is identical to that of Atlantis. Why one and not the other, then? Atlantis has better characters, a more appealing, or if you want, relatively innovative design, dramatic locations, interesting contexts and MASSIVE size dynamics (i.e. Milo - submarine - Leviathan - cave - Atlantis - etc.)
- BOLT
WHAT THE diddly IS GOING ON? WHO BROUGHT THIS UP? Completely inappropriate.
- 101 DALMATIANS (YES, IT'S DALMATIANS, NOT DALAMTIONS >:C)
diddlying same problems as Bolt, Sword in the Stone, Jungle Book and Lilo & Stitch, multiplied by ten. This, people, is THE world that nobody gifted with common sense wants to see in Kingdom Hearts. WHAT ROLE WOULD ONE EVEN PLAY? "OH, HEY, I'M ROGER AND I LIVE IN THE REAL WORLD LONDON, COMPLETELY DEVOID OF ABNORMALITIES. MY PUPPIES HAVE BEEN STOLEN BY A PERFECTLY NORMAL ECCENTRIC ARTIST WOMAN INCAPABLE OF PHYSICALLY HARMING HUMANS FOR WHATEVER REASON. HER SWORDSWOMANSHIP AND HER MAGIC ARE PARTICULARLY NON-EXISTENT AND OUT OF CONTEXT, CONSIDERING HER LIFESTYLE, ESPECIALLY WHEN CONFRONTED (morally, I suppose?) BY A GIANT-KEY-WIELDING ANIME BOY WHO CAME FROM SPACE TO KICK HER ASS, AIDED BY TWO TALKING ANIMALS, ONE OF WHICH IS A DOG APPARENTLY UNWILLING, OR MOST LIKELY UNAWARE OF THE POSSIBILITY, TO MEDIATE MY PUPPIES THOUGHTS FOR ME TO UNDERSTAND THEM. I mean, unless he doesn't speak Dogan. Which seems a more plausible case altogether, given the circumstances..."
Above all, please, let's avoid worlds inspired by films heavily relying on dogs. I know they're a popular object of storytelling for some reason, but it's embarrassing for us, for Nomura, for Sora, and ultimately, for Goofy.
They're not gonna have Sonic as a summon cuz Disney doesn't own the rights to him.
and what's wrong with Bolt? Not the best world maybe but not a bad summon.
They're not gonna have Sonic as a summon cuz Disney doesn't own the rights to him.
and what's wrong with Bolt? Not the best world maybe but not a bad summon.
Yeah, in all honesty, Bolt is a perfect summon. He could have the exact traits as Simba did in KH1 with his super bark but he also has a few other abilities on top of that.
They're not gonna have Sonic as a summon cuz Disney doesn't own the rights to him.
and what's wrong with Bolt? Not the best world maybe but not a bad summon.
True, but I think it would be fun to have Bolt as a prequel to the movie of sorts where he still thinks he has super powers.
True, but I think it would be fun to have Bolt as a prequel to the movie of sorts where he still thinks he has super powers.
It doesn't even have to be a prequel Bolt honestly they could use the Bolt from the TV show or they could just give him his powers back. Did Simba's roar in Lion King actually harm people and send them flying backwards? Nope, but it was a power given to him in KH, they don't even have to explain why Bolt has them, it will just make sense if he did. ^_^
They could just easily say that power, whether you have it or not, comes from the heart and if you believe in yourself anything can happen.
You know, one of those KH morals xD
They could just easily say that power, whether you have it or not, comes from the heart and if you believe in yourself anything can happen.
You know, one of those KH morals xD
You should e-mail SE, I think they'll take that suggestion if they haven't thought of it already haha
It doesn't even have to be a prequel Bolt honestly they could use the Bolt from the TV show or they could just give him his powers back. Did Simba's roar in Lion King actually harm people and send them flying backwards? Nope, but it was a power given to him in KH, they don't even have to explain why Bolt has them, it will just make sense if he did. ^_^
They could explain it, by saying that he gained those powers by the way he was summoned or something. It would definitely be fun if he was a summon in a future game.
Agreed. The more I think a out it, the more sensible it is for him to be a summon.
Agreed. The more I think a out it, the more sensible it is for him to be a summon.
Now we all have to start brainstorming in order to think of a sensible way to incorporate the Leviathan as a gummi ship boss protecting the world of Atlantis...
having it just be like another gummi ship thing would not be taking great advantage of the size of this boss. I move for something more like what was done with Xemnas' dragon thing in KH2.
And even if he was a regular boss, His sheer size would be too awesome for any of the hardware we've had until now.
having it just be like another gummi ship thing would not be taking great advantage of the size of this boss. I move for something more like what was done with Xemnas' dragon thing in KH2.
And even if he was a regular boss, His sheer size would be too awesome for any of the hardware we've had until now.
I just feel like in order to verse him, the arena would be too huge unless it was in the lanes between or on another ship like the gummi ship (like how in KH2 you were on that vehicle to verse Dragon form Xemnas). I mean, as it is, the Leviathan is more than 10x the size of the Ulysses, which is the size of a cruise ship basically, which holds hundreds of people, only one of which is Sora. The dragon boss and a gummi ship boss are extremely similar since you move around the screen in a 2D plane and shoot different things at him so I don't see much of a difference.
Pocahontas is all I really need outta KH. It's pretty much the only CLASSIC Disney movie they haven't covered yet. 101 Dalmatians would be neat, too.
Pocahontas is all I really need outta KH. It's pretty much the only CLASSIC Disney movie they haven't covered yet. 101 Dalmatians would be neat, too.
Couldn't agree more. I personally think it would be criminal if they ended the series without including Pocahontas. It would be nice if they did a world based on the movie but I'll take anything at this point lol. Perhaps Flit or Meeko as a summon (if they decided to include summons).
...In my opinion, the Leviathan shouldn't be a boss battle until after the end of the game. First, because the characters in the film only escape from it.
Second, because it's a diddlying TITAN.
If Sora could defeat a Leviathan, first encounter, unprepared, half leveled, Kingdom Key'd (or whatever crap world themed key'd) the saga would have to come to an end, as everything in the universe would become pointless and Sora's pompous self confidence and motivation would quickly deteriorate until annihilation. He would fly to Saturn to reconsider his values and think of something to do in all the time he has left before trans-game oblivion.
Secret boss battle post-level maxing is the best choice.
As for the size, don't worry about that, the long lived PS4 will handle it trolololololololololo
In case any variables limit freedom of choice, like the possibility of the game being initially conceived for an older console, the fight can take place ON the Leviathan, in a similar style to that first segment of the final battle in KH2, just past the door to Kingdom Hearts, with a pinch of elements from the very final confrontation with Xemnas. As the monster is relatively fast, this means comparatively fast pace action, reaction commands all over the place (not just triangle), instances in which one builds one's own combos during a reaction sequence, sections of the episode full of automated motion and blablabla, you get the point, the battle will have to rely on pre-established fight scenes in order to avoid monotony due to scarce movement and interaction with only a fraction of the boss, plus, most likely flying-- AAAAH THOSE COMMANDS!!! HOW DO I GO UP???-- though mind you, my suggestions also imply the rendering of only a small part of the boss at once, but the dynamism and speed of this ideal battle should be able to hide it.
And again, mind you, it can be a rather engaging battle if done and looked at the right way. That is, if TAPPING TRIANGLE ISN'T THE ONLY REQUIREMENT.
Aaaaand the fact that it all takes place underwater... well there, you have it, I hadn't thought of that, but fuck you anyway, there's always a solution. Key-power generated air bubbles? Yes, possibly.
As always, wall of text, occasional rage outbursts, [FONT=comic sans ms]srry 4 incnvinence see u latr thnx bye[/FONT]
Definitely agree with rescuers and Tangled. Plus, a McLeach boss could be really cool in itself.
I just feel like in order to verse him, the arena would be too huge unless it was in the lanes between or on another ship like the gummi ship (like how in KH2 you were on that vehicle to verse Dragon form Xemnas). I mean, as it is, the Leviathan is more than 10x the size of the Ulysses, which is the size of a cruise ship basically, which holds hundreds of people, only one of which is Sora. The dragon boss and a gummi ship boss are extremely similar since you move around the screen in a 2D plane and shoot different things at him so I don't see much of a difference.
Hence why i said too powerful for hardware pre-ps3.
And Tomasmccann, nobody said Sora had to defeat It. It could be one of those bosses he fights to buy time for everyone to escape or something regardless of how he does so.
Pocahontas is all I really need outta KH. It's pretty much the only CLASSIC Disney movie they haven't covered yet. 101 Dalmatians would be neat, too.
Yeah, I think they definitely need to include all the official Disney princesses at least (probably not by KH3 because that would mean they need at least those 4 worlds <_<). So far, they are still missing Pocahontas, Rapunzel, Tiana, and soon-princess-to-be Merida.
Hence why i said too powerful for hardware pre-ps3.
And Tomasmccann, nobody said Sora had to defeat It. It could be one of those bosses he fights to buy time for everyone to escape or something regardless of how he does so.
I was speaking about an arena being too huge IF you were versing him by yourself with no ship. I think with a ship you could easily make it a gummi ship boss or something using a ship.
Also, I agree that you shouldn't be able to beat him, he's one of those beings that you don't defeat, but once you win you either escape from him or he backs away or something, but he by no way gets vanquished.
I know i'm late on this but this is what i would have wanted
10: Toy Story
9: Emperor's New Groove
8: Brother Bear
7: Gargoyles
6: Atlantis the Lost Empire
5: Jungle Book
4: Wreck It Ralph
3: Pocahontas
2: The Princess and the Frog
and
1: Treasure Planet
Why did you revive a 5 year old topic instead of using the current “Worlds you want in Kingdom Hearts 3†thread?
Sorry Horto, but I have to close this.
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