KINGDOM HEARTS Union X enters its final chapter
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- Published on June 16, 2020 @ 04:04 pm
- Written by Cecily
Square Enix released a new video today detailing upcoming releases for the KINGDOM HEARTS series over the course of 2020. Included is a brief trailer for KINGDOM HEARTS Union X, with the following text overlaying the screen:
Trials that the five young leaders endure.
The chosen leader, Stelitzia, has vanished.
Who is the culprit?
Was it all a part of the Master's plan, or was it a plot by the Darkness?
The door to the Union Leaders' Final Chapter has opened.
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I love that there are gears on the wall. A link to the MoM, Vanitas, both!?
So when do you guys think we will have a schedule of 'story' releases for Union X? The japanese version, at least.
finally putting it out of its misery
This.... This does put a smile on my face
Honestly, fuck all of you bitching in my threads for the past 7 years about a game most of you don't even play. GP and I have dealt with the BS and disrespect for long enough :mad:
Besides, y'all are just going to turn around and take your complaints to the DR threads anyway.
So when do you guys think we will have a schedule of 'story' releases for Union X? The japanese version, at least.
We are due for another letter from the dev team/Nomura outlining the schedule, yeah. Whether it'll cover all the way to the end is another story though.
I feel like a weight has been lifted off my back. lol
Thank God. I mean, don't get me wrong, I am genuinely interested to see how this story ends, but I'm SO. FREAKING. HAPPY that this wallet-swallowing time-sink is finally wrapping the hell up. I've been playing this damn game since 2015, and it's high past time for it to reach its conclusion. From what I've seen of Dark Road's gameplay (and story), that at least seems like it will be a more enjoyable title. Not worthy of telling Xehanort's story, of course, but certainly more like an actual fleshed out game.
I wonder if this "Final Chapter" is gonna be just one update, or will it be a series of updates.
I'm hoping they add a way to only play the story in UX after it finishes, without all the filler and padding.
I'm hoping they add a way to only play the story in UX after it finishes, without all the filler and padding.
I'm on the boat that thinks that updates will be minimal, call it quits after the story is finished and only update medals.
As long as the game is making enough money I don’t really see chi closing down. Gacha games are meant to go on as long as they possibly can. Union X might come to an end but we might just move on to a new arc then. It would seem weird for the service to be ending if you need it to play Dark Road.
I’m not sure how successful this game has been though. It’s not like SE haven’t closed any of their gacha games before.
As long as the game is making enough money I don’t really see chi closing down. Gacha games are meant to go on as long as they possibly can. Union X might come to an end but we might just move on to a new arc then. It would seem weird for the service to be ending if you need it to play Dark Road.
I’m not sure how successful this game has been though. It’s not like SE haven’t closed any of their gacha games before.
KINGDOM HEARTS Union Cross has been running for five years now. They're now closing Mobius FINAL FANTASY, which had been running for four years now.
We'll just have to wait and see what they do with KHUx. I think they'll leave it running as long as DR is running
I wonder how this will all work, since Dark Road is coming on the 22nd plus in story terms, Union X has only just reached the Vanellope (As a princess) reveal part.
We still have the Felix rescue, Race, Bug invasion and King Candy fight (if memory serves me correctly). Not to mention Global is still somewhat behind.
Anyways, things are getting interesting, who murdered Strelitzia? What is Ven's role? Who will take the pods? And who won't?
So excited!
Honestly, fuck all of you bitching in my threads for the past 7 years about a game most of you don't even play. GP and I have dealt with the BS and disrespect for long enough :mad:
Besides, y'all are just going to turn around and take your complaints to the DR threads anyway.
Thank you so much to both of you for doing the translated versions. I think the story and writing is really interesting, better than the main games, so am glad I could follow the latest updates here. I tried to get into playing UX last year for a bit but I just found all the mechanics extremely confusing. If these mobile games are the only way Nomura can tell these stories though I think they're good things and I am looking forward to playing along with DR from the start.
Honestly, fuck all of you bitching in my threads for the past 7 years about a game most of you don't even play. GP and I have dealt with the BS and disrespect for long enough :mad:
Besides, y'all are just going to turn around and take your complaints to the DR threads anyway.
Seriously, thank you and Goldpanner for covering the X sub-series from all the way back in 2013. Can't believe it's been that long.
We're always appreciative of your work. The frustration with the X saga is more to do with the snail's pace updates more than anything else. Nobody's undermining the work and updates that you guys go through to provide all this information.
Seriously, thank you and Goldpanner for covering the X sub-series from all the way back in 2013. Can't believe it's been that long.
We're always appreciative of your work. The frustration with the X saga is more to do with the snail's pace updates more than anything else. Nobody's undermining the work and updates that you guys go through to provide all this information.
I agree. Make sure to add it to your resume
Honestly, fuck all of you bitching in my threads for the past 7 years about a game most of you don't even play. GP and I have dealt with the BS and disrespect for long enough :mad:
Besides, y'all are just going to turn around and take your complaints to the DR threads anyway.
We are due for another letter from the dev team/Nomura outlining the schedule, yeah. Whether it'll cover all the way to the end is another story though.
I love you <3
Maybe once it's done, they can refine it, cut out the filler levels and port it to consoles.
Sorry for the dumb question but what is the black thing on the round table by the bed?
Sorry for the dumb question but what is the black thing on the round table by the bed?
Hard to say, it could be a metallic rectangular basket or something similar.
Sorry for the dumb question but what is the black thing on the round table by the bed?
Looks like a typing machine
Anyways, I got a theory in regards towards the image.
I think what will happen is that Ephemer and Co will try to help Ven remember only for him to end up in a comatose state.
Anyways, I got a theory in regards towards the image.
I think what will happen is that Ephemer and Co will try to help Ven remember only for him to end up in a comatose state.
Is this is the point in time where Ventus appears in the Badlands and Master Xehanort finds him, I doubt he'll enter a coma.
Watch Nomura weaving a scenario where Xehanort creating Vanitas and almost completely trashing Ven's heart was not the first time that poor kid's heart got heavily damaged.
We don't know where and when Xehanort meets (or finds) Ventus so there can be quite a time between the situation with Ven in this bed and his first run-in with Xehanort.
Watch Nomura weaving a scenario where Xehanort creating Vanitas and almost completely trashing Ven's heart was not the first time that poor kid's heart got heavily damaged.
And Xehanort only 'ripped out' Vanitas from Ventus. He existed inside of Ven long before then, according Vanitas to Re Mind.
Currently on 945 quests. If they want to keep dragging this and end it with 1000 quests just for the sake of it, we are still far from the ending.
Honestly, fuck all of you bitching in my threads for the past 7 years about a game most of you don't even play. GP and I have dealt with the BS and disrespect for long enough :mad:
Besides, y'all are just going to turn around and take your complaints to the DR threads anyway.
Sorry for the dumb question but what is the black thing on the round table by the bed?
Looks like a typing machine
A typewriter.
Right, I can make out the keys now. Thank you very much.
Honestly, fuck all of you bitching in my threads for the past 7 years about a game most of you don't even play. GP and I have dealt with the BS and disrespect for long enough :mad:
Besides, y'all are just going to turn around and take your complaints to the DR threads anyway.
Am I allowed to bitch as long as I play the game.;)
Honestly though, without you and Goldpanner the last seven years wouldn't be as entertaining as they were, posting transcripts and translations just hours after the story updates dropped leading to theories en masse.
I hope Dark Road has both more entertaining gameplay and story parity from the start, although the recent silence of the NA team makes me worry about that.
I stand by Skuld being the killer. I refuse to be fooled in believing it's Ventus. It's too obvious. Everyone's been sleeping on Skuld and now she's going to unveil her fangs. Come on Team Skuld!
Honestly, fuck all of you bitching in my threads for the past 7 years about a game most of you don't even play. GP and I have dealt with the BS and disrespect for long enough :mad:
Besides, y'all are just going to turn around and take your complaints to the DR threads anyway.
I hope my obsession with Skuld and Gula didn't come off as annoying in your threads, if so sorry Sign. Just trying to participate.
I hope my obsession with Skuld and Gula didn't come off as annoying in your threads, if so sorry Sign. Just trying to participate.
I should apologize for that too. Your transcripts are really brilliant for making theories because I can just have different tabs for lots of scenes and quickly compare dialogue and watch the videos on the same pages. I'll miss getting the updates here, it kind of felt like a little soap opera and I enjoy the buildup to and discussion after each new chapter is released.
I stand by Skuld being the killer. I refuse to be fooled in believing it's Ventus. It's too obvious. Everyone's been sleeping on Skuld and now she's going to unveil her fangs. Come on Team Skuld!
I concur. The girl has yellow eyes, ffs.
I concur. The girl has yellow eyes, ffs.
Exactly. I think she's framing Ventus. We're gonna find out soon. Skuld is gonna do the biggest heel turn in the history of Kingdom Hearts!
I'm guessing all the arguing about Skuld's eye colour (and they are brown) hasn't been much fun for you either, Sign :(
They're brown? Clearly I am color blind. But she's still up to something.
They're brown? Clearly I am color blind. But she's still up to something.
Sorry, I shouldn't have said that and have deleted the post because I really don't want to be arguing about it. I am still suspicious of her and think her being the culprit would make sense with her pre-War personality and subsequent blandness but we'll see.
Sorry, I shouldn't have said that because I really don't want to be arguing about it. I am still suspicious of her and think her being the culprit would make sense with her pre-War personality and subsequent blandness but we'll see.
From the novel cover Skuld appeared to have amber eyes, but I never paid attention to it lol. But Skuld has some mystery to her. She's been Luxording her way through the story not bringing attention to herself which means she's super important. Don't fall for this Ventus red herring. She's framing the boy to cover her tracks.
I stand by Skuld being the killer. I refuse to be fooled in believing it's Ventus. It's too obvious. Everyone's been sleeping on Skuld and now she's going to unveil her fangs. Come on Team Skuld!
My impression is that Darkness possessed Ventus and he killed her.
My impression is that Darkness possessed Ventus and he killed her.
N...no! It cannot be that simple as that. This is Skuld's moment. Let her have this.
From the novel cover Skuld appeared to have amber eyes, but I never paid attention to it lol. But Skuld has some mystery to her. She's been Luxording her way through the story not bringing attention to herself which means she's super important. Don't fall for this Ventus red herring. She's framing the boy to cover her tracks.
Exactly, she seems to be keeping herself under the radar, always around but never really relevant to the story (and when she should be relevant to Lauriam's investigation she is still sidelined). I still like the idea of Darkness hopping between vessels, maybe possessing Skuld for the murder then residing in Ventus. Honestly though now I think that's just a fun story in my head.
N...no! It cannot be that simple as that. This is Skuld's moment. Let her have this.
Haha, assuming she's Subject X, she'l have her moment.
Exactly, she seems to be keeping herself under the radar, always around but never really relevant to the story (and when she should be relevant to Lauriam's investigation she is still sidelined). I still like the idea of Darkness hopping between vessels, maybe possessing Skuld for the murder then residing in Ventus. Honestly though now I think that's just a fun story in my head.
I suppose the vessel hopping thing is possible. But if Darkness is Vanitas like many think that means he's half-Skuld!
Haha, assuming she's Subject X, she'l have her moment.
But this will make the Subject Sigil reveal even more juicy! They'll save her only to later find out they rescued a Keyblade Killer. It'll be so grand!
On another note anyone think Elerna will appear? She dropped off the face of the Earth. And are Luxord and Demyx still part of this? I assume Luxord is in Verum Rex but Demyx...I have no clue.
I assume Luxord is in Verum Rex but Demyx...I have no clue.
I'm inclined to believe that Demyx is actually from the world of Verum Rex like Luxord is. The Arc already has five spots:
* Ventus
* Lauriam
* Skuld
* Brain/Ephemer
* Elerna
Between Brain and Ephemer someone has to stay and build upon the ruins of flooded Daybreak Town what will be Scala ad Caelum, so there's no room for Demyx in an arc.
...'less Demyx is the MoM :v
I'm inclined to believe that Demyx is actually from the world of Verum Rex like Luxord is. The Arc already has five spots:
* Ventus
* Lauriam
* Skuld
* Brain/Ephemer
* Elerna
Between Brain and Ephemer someone has to stay and build upon the ruins of flooded Daybreak Town what will be Scala ad Caelum, so there's no room for Demyx in an arc.
...'less Demyx is the MoM :v
Hmm, I wondered if Demyx could be from Verum Rex awhile ago. I wonder how Luxord and Demyx are tied to the Keyblade Legacy then? So many questions.
I wonder how Luxord and Demyx are tied to the Keyblade Legacy then?
Assuming Xemnas didn't make a mistake in thinking they were related, perhaps the world of Verum Rex is where the Keyblade was born.
On another note anyone think Elerna will appear? She dropped off the face of the Earth. And are Luxord and Demyx still part of this? I assume Luxord is in Verum Rex but Demyx...I have no clue.
I suspect Demyx will appear in Dark Road.
As some sort of different incarnation? Because otherwise if he shows up in Dark Road by all accounts he should have been an old man in the present
As some sort of different incarnation? Because otherwise if he shows up in Dark Road by all accounts he should have been an old man in the present
Or he somehow ended up in present day KH when either Xigbar or Xaldin recruited him
Assuming Xemnas didn't make a mistake in thinking they were related, perhaps the world of Verum Rex is where the Keyblade was born.
That would be like the funniest thing if Xemnas just lumped them all together and didn't realize they were different.
You think they'll give Darkness a body here or wait for a numbered title? I'm sure if they did it would be another black cloak.
As some sort of different incarnation? Because otherwise if he shows up in Dark Road by all accounts he should have been an old man in the present
I mean, it'd be great if it turned out he's from Verum Rex. Bonus points if he's a completely normal person that somehow got caught up in all this by accident. But we know Nomura's love of "twists" and Dark Road will likely have more characters appear eventually.
It'd be funny if Demyx is from UX, but he has all of two seconds of screentime before the big ending.
And he's just a random character in the background.
You think they'll give Darkness a body here or wait for a numbered title? I'm sure if they did it would be another black cloak.
I'm of the opinion that they won't give Darkness a body, but it's possible they might give "it" some form.
And he's just a random character in the background.
Maybe. It's possible Sora isn't the only random boy being thrown into big things.
I'm of the opinion that they won't give Darkness a body, but it's possible they might give "it" some form.
Maybe. It's possible Sora isn't the only random boy being thrown into big things.
I don't really buy Sora being a random boy thrown into things at this point, personally
I don't really buy Sora being a random boy thrown into things at this point, personally
Up to this point, he is. But I don't think Nomura will change that.
Up to this point, he is. But I don't think Nomura will change that.
Yeah you are probably right. Sorry
Something else I want to know is why exactly does Verum Rex have a connection to the Keyblade legacy. Neither Yozora nor his companions fight with keyblades. Maybe Yozora's ancestors lost the ability to use those weapons over time
Something else I want to know is why exactly does Verum Rex have a connection to the Keyblade legacy. Neither Yozora nor his companions fight with keyblades. Maybe Yozora's ancestors lost the ability to use those weapons over time
Either than or Xemnas was mistaken
Either than or Xemnas was mistaken
Possibly in regards to Luxord. Given what we know of him is that he could have been faking ignorance and just went with Xemnas' assumptions
Possibly in regards to Luxord. Given what we know of him is that he could have been faking ignorance and just went with Xemnas' assumptions
Maybe, maybe not. For all we know, Demyx could appear at the end of KHUx, or actually be a denizen of Scala ad Caelum.
...or maybe not
Or maybe he's the MoM (never forget that Nomura specifically foreshadowed his appearance in Re:MIND)
I‘m not gonna lie, I *am* glad that this series enters its final chapter. That just means we might get updates faster. It‘s amazing to me that the X-series has been going on for 7 years.
Let’s disregard everything except the story for a second. I loved X [chi], still do. The theories and discussions whenever a new story update dropped were fun to read through and participate. I guess the more time passed, the more I grew out of love with the X-era. I think I‘m one of the only ones who genuinely enjoyed the Foretellers and the whole Keyblade War.
I felt very neutral about Unchained. Union Cross, though? There were some ups and downs. I loved Strelitzia, I still don‘t know why. I wish she hadn‘t been killed. I don‘t know if it was because of slow updated but I felt like the murder mystery was kind of dropped a little and has now been given the „spotlight“ again since the latest update. I wonder how it will all end. We still don‘t know who the cloaked girl from the Keyart is..
Anyways, if it weren‘t for the slow updates, in my opinion the X-series has a really strong plot. I hope they will explore this arc again in a few years and refine it a little
I‘m not gonna lie, I *am* glad that this series enters its final chapter. That just means we might get updates faster. It‘s amazing to me that the X-series has been going on for 7 years.
I'm also glad. This could open the possibility of, perhaps, either getting a KHUx movie or console game.
Let’s disregard everything except the story for a second. I loved X [chi], still do. The theories and discussions whenever a new story update dropped were fun to read through and participate. I guess the more time passed, the more I grew out of love with the X-era. I think I‘m one of the only ones who genuinely enjoyed the Foretellers and the whole Keyblade War.
I enjoyed every aspect as well. It's the saga that has a better storytelling than Xehanort's, even though it was limited to updates.
I felt very neutral about Unchained. Union Cross, though? There were some ups and downs. I loved Strelitzia, I still don‘t know why. I wish she hadn‘t been killed. I don‘t know if it was because of slow updated but I felt like the murder mystery was kind of dropped a little and has now been given the „spotlight“ again since the latest update. I wonder how it will all end. We still don‘t know who the cloaked girl from the Keyart is..
Yeah, one of KHUx's problems was pacing.
Something else I want to know is why exactly does Verum Rex have a connection to the Keyblade legacy. Neither Yozora nor his companions fight with keyblades. Maybe Yozora's ancestors lost the ability to use those weapons over time
Other than that, there's the suspiciously Sora-like skull patch with Keyblades on Yozora's sleeve, and that has to mean something, but what? Did Sora create a fashion brand in an alternate timeline or something?
Possibly in regards to Luxord. Given what we know of him is that he could have been faking ignorance and just went with Xemnas' assumptions
I wouldn't jump to the conclusion that Union χ[Cross] is ending.
It specifically says ユニオンリーダー編, or "Union Leader story/arc"
So for those of you celebrating UX's end of service, I would perhaps cool your jets for now.
It's entirely possible we'll just be moving on to a new story arc. For example, we still have no idea what's been happening outside in the real world after the Keyblade War. The Foretellers and Luxu have been MIA ever since the Union Leader arc began.
We don't know when Daybreak Town is destroyed, or why, or how it becomes Scala ad Caelum.
I believe there's still more to come.
Honestly, fuck all of you bitching in my threads for the past 7 years about a game most of you don't even play. GP and I have dealt with the BS and disrespect for long enough :mad:
Besides, y'all are just going to turn around and take your complaints to the DR threads anyway.
Look, it isn't you or goldpanner's fault that this series had an intimate love affair with mobileshit gacha. But it would help massively if we collectively called SE out on their shit and killed KHUX (and KHDR), forcing them to explore other avenues for money (like, idk, a cohesive story in a multi-part adventure that doesn't LITERALLY WASTE TIME WITH INANE FILLER AND 5 MINUTE TEXT SCENES THAT GO NOWHERE).
We still don't know who darkness is btw.
Maybe Verum Rex's connection is that its people developed anti-Keyblade tech.
huuuuuuuh maybe this is the response to stopping the Keyblade War? Develop anti Keyblade technology?
I wouldn't jump to the conclusion that Union χ[Cross] is ending.
It specifically says ユニオンリーダー編, or "Union Leader story/arc"
So for those of you celebrating UX's end of service, I would perhaps cool your jets for now.
It's entirely possible we'll just be moving on to a new story arc. For example, we still have no idea what's been happening outside in the real world after the Keyblade War. The Foretellers and Luxu have been MIA ever since the Union Leader arc began.
We don't know when Daybreak Town is destroyed, or why, or how it becomes Scala ad Caelum.
I believe there's still more to come.
I mean, they can pretty much cover all of that in the new update.
Look, it isn't you or goldpanner's fault that this series had an intimate love affair with mobileshit gacha. But it would help massively if we collectively called SE out on their shit and killed KHUX (and KHDR), forcing them to explore other avenues for money (like, idk, a cohesive story in a multi-part adventure that doesn't LITERALLY WASTE TIME WITH INANE FILLER AND 5 MINUTE TEXT SCENES THAT GO NOWHERE).
We still don't know who darkness is btw.
Unless you'd like to try your hand at shifting the entire nation of Japan's cultural perspective on mobile games, this isn't going away any time soon.
I mean, they can pretty much cover all of that in the new update.
Maybe. But it seems strange to rebrand the app as Union χ Dark Road is the Union χ half is ending a few months later.
And I believe if they were really announcing the end of service, they'd be more explicit about it.
And I believe if they were really announcing the end of service, they'd be more explicit about it.
If they outright kill KHUx, they'll kill Dark Road adoption. I'm of the opinion that they'll casually update KHUx and then maybe kill it off after DR is finished.
The way people are acting is like UX is being terminated within a few months. I fully expect this final chapter of the Union leaders' story to be stretched out at least a year.
In the event that UX continues past this, I'm curious to see where it goes. Hard to imagine a story without the Union leaders.
Look, it isn't you or goldpanner's fault that this series had an intimate love affair with mobileshit gacha. But it would help massively if we collectively called SE out on their shit and killed KHUX (and KHDR), forcing them to explore other avenues for money (like, idk, a cohesive story in a multi-part adventure that doesn't LITERALLY WASTE TIME WITH INANE FILLER AND 5 MINUTE TEXT SCENES THAT GO NOWHERE).
We still don't know who darkness is btw.
Then do that in the appropriate channels? It's that simple. I recommend the UX subreddit and its corresponding Discord channel. The community manager is quite active there.
In the event that UX continues past this, I'm curious to see where it goes. Hard to imagine a story without the Union leaders.
We know that "the Five" get rocketed into the future, which leaves a couple characters left behind in the past. So a third arc could center around them.
With Xehanort having dreams of Player's life in DR, I'm wondering if perhaps the end of the Union Leader arc somehow transitions Player's storyline into Dark Road? The endgame for Player has always been a bit of a mystery. I wonder if it's possible they might dip out of the story and UX follows a different character at some point.
I guess UX will need to address the 'demise' of the world predicted by Luxu in his Secret Report. For some reason I assumed the Five escaped more or less as the world was ending but if that isn't the case and the UX world persists for a bit after Ven and the other leaders have left, then I wonder what the exact agent of the world's destruction would be. Heartless? Maybe the glitches getting worse and worse until the data world is erased? I am looking forward to seeing how it works. Plus, will see see Nightmare Chirithy again?
Maybe once it's done, they can refine it, cut out the filler levels and port it to consoles.
And if it ends up being ported to consoles, please use the Unreal Engine 4 assets and not the HD PlayStation 2 assets.
I wouldn't jump to the conclusion that Union χ[Cross] is ending.
It specifically says ユニオンリーダー編, or "Union Leader story/arc"
So for those of you celebrating UX's end of service, I would perhaps cool your jets for now.
It's entirely possible we'll just be moving on to a new story arc. For example, we still have no idea what's been happening outside in the real world after the Keyblade War. The Foretellers and Luxu have been MIA ever since the Union Leader arc began.
We don't know when Daybreak Town is destroyed, or why, or how it becomes Scala ad Caelum.
I believe there's still more to come.
huuuuuuuh maybe this is the response to stopping the Keyblade War? Develop anti Keyblade technology?
Keyblades are first and foremost weapons of destruction that destroyed the World, so it makes sense why someone would want to develop something against that.
I fully expect this final chapter of the Union leaders' story to be stretched out at least a year.
Uhh... D:
The endgame for Player has always been a bit of a mystery.
In before Subject X is actually the Player.
I just want it to end. ?
And why Keyblades are so rare now? Maybe what Yozora meant by "saving" Sora was saving him from the Keyblade legacy?
Keyblades are first and foremost weapons of destruction that destroyed the World, so it makes sense why someone would want to develop something against that.
That makes a lot of sense. So there might be a fight between people that support th Keyblade Legacy while others that are against it?
Uhh... D:
I mean, my ideal scenario is for them to clarify that they still have more stories to tell with the Player and UX will continue even after the leaders' story has concluded, but I don't think you guys will like that xD
That makes a lot of sense. So there might be a fight between people that support th Keyblade Legacy while others that are against it?
I mean, my ideal scenario is for them to clarify that they still have more stories to tell with the Player and UX will continue even after the leaders' story has concluded, but I don't think you guys will like that xD
Definitely an unpopular opinion but one I can get behind. I'm on the χ train for as long as it lasts.
I mean, my ideal scenario is for them to clarify that they still have more stories to tell with the Player and UX will continue even after the leaders' story has concluded, but I don't think you guys will like that xD
Hey, as long as we get monthly updates, I'm happy lol.
Bingo. And might be how Luxu and the Furrytellers will stay involved going forward. This theory at least finally gives me something to work with for them.
Which would be a plot twist: you end up joining with the Foretellers to stop the erasure of the Keyblades.
Did anyone else see this?
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Above the logo, it reads "χ[chi] Series Final Chapter Union χ Dark Road"
Dark Road doesn't share the same app as UX just because. It's there because it's quite literally the same game.
Which makes the link between Player and Xehanort even more interesting, if we consider the χ series to be Player's story.
Did anyone else see this?
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Above the logo, it reads "χ[chi] Series Final Chapter Union χ Dark Road"
Dark Road doesn't share the same app as UX just because. It's there because it's quite literally the same game.
Which makes the link between Player and Xehanort even more interesting, if we consider the χ series to be Player's story.
brb screaming
This is so fascinating. I need more.
Did anyone else see this?
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Above the logo, it reads "χ[chi] Series Final Chapter Union χ Dark Road"
Dark Road doesn't share the same app as UX just because. It's there because it's quite literally the same game.
Which makes the link between Player and Xehanort even more interesting, if we consider the χ series to be Player's story.
It made me think what if Player and Xehanort are just the same person, after all, if Xehanort is an anagram of “No Heart” with the Sigil included than what is his name, really? And that what if he was just jetted to the future somehow like some of the others?
But, the whole ‘this is a boy who grew up in Destiny Islands and left the islands for good’ kind of throws a wrench in that. Unless Nomura creates some kind of weird plot hole with the explanation of like ‘well, he lost his memories and then grew into a teenager/young adult on the islands’ but..I don’t think the age thing works out. Isn’t he supposed to be a teenager in DR? It would be weird if he only lived in DI for like one year after showing up randomly and then he was remembered as this kid who left the islands. Doesn’t make sense, but my tinfoil hat is still on. There’s a reason Player’s memories are involved in DR, why Xehanort has the name he has, and why he ends up with goatblade. Somehow it’ll all make sense, I just hope it doesn’t take several more years to find out.
*shuffles back to the hole I crawled out of*
It made me think what if Player and Xehanort are just the same person, after all, if Xehanort is an anagram of “No Heart” with the Sigil included than what is his name, really? And that what if he was just jetted to the future somehow like some of the others?
But, the whole ‘this is a boy who grew up in Destiny Islands and left the islands for good’ kind of throws a wrench in that. Unless Nomura creates some kind of weird plot hole with the explanation of like ‘well, he lost his memories and then grew into a teenager/young adult on the islands’ but..I don’t think the age thing works out. Isn’t he supposed to be a teenager in DR? It would be weird if he only lived in DI for like one year after showing up randomly and then he was remembered as this kid who left the islands. Doesn’t make sense, but my tinfoil hat is still on. There’s a reason Player’s memories are involved in DR, why Xehanort has the name he has, and why he ends up with goatblade. Somehow it’ll all make sense, I just hope it doesn’t take several more years to find out.
*shuffles back to the hole I crawled out of*
Xehanort's other anagram is Another X. Could also be Another χ, possibly referring to KHx, more specifically, the Player. Also, check this interesting entry for the letter χ:
"In Plato's Timaeus, it is explained that the two bands that form the soul of the world cross each other like the letter Χ."
"two bands that form the soul of the world"
"two bands"
The "χ" in KINGDOM HEARTS χ represent Player and Xehanort. One band is player (\) and the other is Xehanort (/), thus making two bands: X
Xehanort's other anagram is Another X. Could also be Another χ, possibly referring to KHx, more specifically, the Player. Also, check this interesting entry for the letter χ:
"In Plato's Timaeus, it is explained that the two bands that form the soul of the world cross each other like the letter Χ."
"two bands that form the soul of the world"
"two bands"
The "χ" in KINGDOM HEARTS χ represent Player and Xehanort. One band is player (\) and the other is Xehanort (/), thus making two bands: X
..This..there’s an infinite number of theories that could be developed from that alone. (How does Nomura even think this up??) I’m so confused. Like, would this support a Xehanort=Player theory or some..weird theory like a split reminiscent of Vanitas/Ventus where Xehanort is one half in the world and the other.. I don’t even know what I’m saying lol
Xehanort's other anagram is Another X. Could also be Another χ, possibly referring to KHx, more specifically, the Player. Also, check this interesting entry for the letter χ:
"In Plato's Timaeus, it is explained that the two bands that form the soul of the world cross each other like the letter Χ."
"two bands that form the soul of the world"
"two bands"
The "χ" in KINGDOM HEARTS χ represent Player and Xehanort. One band is player (\) and the other is Xehanort (/), thus making two bands: X
You know...
The logo animation for Union χ shows two bands crossing over each other. The first larger than the second.
And the animation for Union χ Dark Road does the same, but now the bands are about the same size...
I thought of a theory about Player and Xehanort. What if Player doesn't get jetted to the future but instead is somehow reincarnated over and over again (like Luxu, but not remembering each lifetime), living many lives until eventually becoming Xehanort? I can think of a reason for this too.
In Re Mind Xehanort himself talks about people tainted by darkness and says that they 'repeat the cycle, and their darkness grows'. Now, Player is a good person but in X they are tainted by darkness, which manifests itself in the form of Nightmare Chirithy. Then Player has their memories locked away (occasionally seeping through in dreams) and gets a second chance at life in UX. But why shouldn't Player again be tainted by darkness? Perhaps the darkness in them was only supressed along with their memories and could grow stronger this time around. And then if Player were to repeat this cycle of living and forgetting over and over again, their darkness could grow and grow, and eventually become dominant in their heart.
Luxu lived many lives throughout the ''cyclical history of bequeathings" (secret report 12), awaiting the day when a 'Keyblade Master devoted to darkness may finally arise' (13). And we have been told that 'destiny never leaves anything to chance' so maybe the MoM's plan wasn't simply to wait for the Seeker of Darkness to eventually be born but rather to create one by strengthening Player's darkness over a cycle of many lifetimes. 'Project Xehanort', if you will.
I like Ballad's Plato idea too. I can see this question of whether anything is real or not taking inspiration from Plato's cave
Personally, I think any twist that involves the Player secretly being Xehanort this whole time would just be irredeemably stupid. Not to mention, if they were going to do something like that, they should have done it BEFORE KH3. Frankly, I think it's still a huge mistake that they didn't do Dark Road before KH3, as it would have provided much greater development for Xehanort's character before offing him instead of just retrospectively looking back at a character who should at this point be completely gone from the series equation.
But just the thought that they might actually go through with something this convoluted and unnecessary makes my blood curdle. Xehanort was a fine character as he was. Tacking on a bizarre and unnecessary backstory on top of the one he already has would just ruin him imo. Not to mention, what purpose would it serve? Is Xehanort gone or is he not? If they're going to start making connections like that to the X saga for his character, then that would imply that he'll have some importance to the story going forward, and frankly, that's a terrible idea. I loved Xehanort as a villain (despite flaws in his writing), but we were promised a definitive ending to his story. I want that ending to stay, and be left unadulterated. He got a perfect sendoff, and we've been dealing with him as a villain for the past two decades. The man is dead, let him rest, stop tacking stuff onto him as if that makes him more complex.
You know...
The logo animation for Union χ shows two bands crossing over each other. The first larger than the second.
And the animation for Union χ Dark Road does the same, but now the bands are about the same size...
Oh, God. We've never seen a younger iteration of Xehanort. What if Xehanort is an amnesiac Player?
So here's my question for y'all:
Since DR is a continuation of the KHX series, do you guys want us to continue with our own translations? I wasn't planning to originally, since it seemed like they'd be separate games and would update on the same schedule, but now idk.
So can someone please elaborate? if union X ends will the game shut down like the Kh chi? Since they said this is the final chapter.
So can someone please elaborate? if union X ends will the game shut down like the Kh chi? Since they said this is the final chapter.
Final chapter in the Union leader's story =/= game is being terminated
So here's my question for y'all:
Since DR is a continuation of the KHX series, do you guys want us to continue with our own translations? I wasn't planning to originally, since it seemed like they'd be separate games and would update on the same schedule, but now idk.
I would really like that so I can be aware of issues with the official translations and yours and Goldpanner's versions are really good. Obviously I wouldn't begrudge you wanting to not dedicating your time to it though.
I would really like that so I can be aware of issues with the official translations and yours and Goldpanner's versions are really good. Obviously I wouldn't begrudge you wanting to not dedicating your time to it though.
My sentiments exactly. I would very much love to be up to date with the direction Dark Road's story takes, but if you guys don't wanna do it, then by all means take a rest.
So here's my question for y'all:
Since DR is a continuation of the KHX series, do you guys want us to continue with our own translations? I wasn't planning to originally, since it seemed like they'd be separate games and would update on the same schedule, but now idk.
Even if Global launches DR at the same time, who knows if they'll keep parity with story updates...
And throughout UX we've all seen how SENA has, uh, different opinions about how to translate the game.
I'm going to go with what Dast said. Whenever I hear of a KH update of translating anything I come here first to read it since updates are really fast, though I haven't been on Khinsider for very long lol. So I'll trust what the others are saying about how things are run from my newbie perspective.
Truthfully I just got into the Union X stuff last year after KH3 ended. So I'm just following along with whatever is put up for translations here. I'll be following Dark Road's translations from the start, even though I can't play.
Then it's settled! Goldpanner and I will continue and translate/sub the Japanese version of DR :D
Then it's settled! Goldpanner and I will continue and translate/sub the Japanese version of DR :D
Yeah, I wouldn't be at all upset to see Khux gone.
For me Khux Story is really Good, but the Gameplay on the other hand is... Eh ok I guess, It’s not the Best but just ok.
Yeah, I wouldn't be at all upset to see Khux gone.
(Unless you're being sarcastic. I can't tell from text sometimes.)
So I believe we will see in this last chapter how Daybreak Town turned into Scala right?
Interested to see how this ends.
So I believe we will see in this last chapter how Daybreak Town turned into Scala right?
Interested to see how this ends.
All we know is that there was a flood. What caused that flood is a subject of speculation
All we know is that there was a flood. What caused that flood is a subject of speculation
Maybe it is time to introduce FF summons and someone just summoned Leviathan. :p
Maybe it is time to introduce FF summons and someone just summoned Leviathan. :p
My guess is the Traitor didn't carry out their role of turning the tap off before the Keyblade War.
My guess is the Traitor didn't carry out their role of turning the tap off before the Keyblade War.
Actually it's going according to plan. The traitor aka Gula decided to flood the world as one of his many ways to revive MoM. It's all going according to plan.
Maybe it is time to introduce FF summons and someone just summoned Leviathan. :p
Haha it wouldn't be too farfetched, seeing as how Daybreak Town's model seems to have something below it. Perhaps someone broke a seal, unleashed that thing and it flooded everything?
"The day I met the man in the robe, my world was turned upside down" —Xehanort
Here is a theory: MoM's plan must include some way of getting rid of Xehanort after the latter has done his part and destroyed the existing worlds. The Dandelions would be no match for him, especially when he has the χ-blade. So, maybe MoM built a trap for him. Ava delivered the trigger mechanism of this trap to wrong person, who then managed to set it off in UX timeline, and it turned Daybreak Town (or is it just "Break" after the Keyblade War?) upside down and caused the flood.
I don't think that Player is Xehanort, however, I do think that both of them are connected.
I just don't like the idea of Xehnaort being somebody else in a past life. It undermines his current character.
So here's my question for y'all:
Since DR is a continuation of the KHX series, do you guys want us to continue with our own translations? I wasn't planning to originally, since it seemed like they'd be separate games and would update on the same schedule, but now idk.
Personally, I think it's just a good idea to stick with the official translations. It's a lot of time and effort to translate cutscenes.
I don't think that Player is Xehanort,
Neither do I.
I believe that Luxord's somebody, Ludor, is the Player. Mainly because it causes the Yozora stuff to make sense.
Neither do I.
I believe that Luxord's somebody, Ludor, is the Player. Mainly because it causes the Yozora stuff to make sense.
I don't like that idea mainly because I can't see the laconic Player turning into the chatty gambler. It seems like a very big personality difference, and not just of the good/evil sort.
Personally, I think it's just a good idea to stick with the official translations. It's a lot of time and effort to translate cutscenes.
bit too late for this lol
Tbh as I've noticed Sign and goldpanner often hit it better with their translations. The "official" ones fuck up to much. I'll say only two things: "Special Attack Bonus" and "Brain". Lol.
All we know is that there was a flood. What caused that flood is a subject of speculation
Wasn't God the one who caused the Flood in the story of Noah? Maybe some higher power in the KH universe wiped out Daybreak Town
Tbh as I've noticed Sign and goldpanner often hit it better with their translations. The "official" ones fuck up to much. I'll say only two things: "Special Attack Bonus" and "Brain". Lol.
What is wrong with "Brain"? Meaningful names are an intentional thing meant to provide clues...
Both official and unofficial translations contain errors, but for different reasons. In the official ones the problem tends to be in translating between cultures rather than between languages. For example, "lifeboat" is result of either a Japanese translator not knowing the word "ark", or someone being way too cautious about religion. In the unofficial ones, the problem usually is the translator not knowing enough about the story. My favorite example of this is the Cornerstones dialog between MoM and Luxu, where the unofficial translation managed to create an illusion of a powerful enemy that many people here still seem to believe.
What is wrong with "Brain"? Meaningful names are an intentional thing meant to provide clues...
There are legit reasons behind that decision, and I too have since conceded on this matter, but as a name it is still awful xD
| Both official and unofficial translations contain errors, but for different reasons. In the official ones the problem tends to be in translating between cultures rather than between languages. For example, "lifeboat" is result of either a Japanese translator not knowing the word "ark", or someone being way too cautious about religion. In the unofficial ones, the problem usually is the translator not knowing enough about the story. My favorite example of this is the Cornerstones dialog between MoM and Luxu, where the unofficial translation managed to create an illusion of a powerful enemy that many people here still seem to believe. |
I'm definitely of the opinion that going with lifeboat was an intentional choice to avoid religious references, even though the mainline series has already used ark once in BBS. They also refused to have Player mistake Skuld for a goddess in the Keyblade War (an obvious reference to her namesake), but then they went and translated that scene differently on two occasions lol
Actually these two are probably my biggest criticism of the official localization: a lack of familiarity with past works and lack of consistency. We miss out on references to iconic dialogue from past games (my heart still hurts from no "We'll go together" ;-; ), and repeated scenes from UX itself have had multiple translations.
What is wrong with "Brain"? Meaningful names are an intentional thing meant to provide clues...
Both official and unofficial translations contain errors, but for different reasons. In the official ones the problem tends to be in translating between cultures rather than between languages. For example, "lifeboat" is result of either a Japanese translator not knowing the word "ark", or someone being way too cautious about religion. In the unofficial ones, the problem usually is the translator not knowing enough about the story. My favorite example of this is the Cornerstones dialog between MoM and Luxu, where the unofficial translation managed to create an illusion of a powerful enemy that many people here still seem to believe.
"Brain" is not a name for a person but an organ. It's simply stupid when you have an actual name at hand with "Blaine" which is how he was originally called.
What's next? We gonna get introduced to Brain's triplet brothers Loin and Groin as well as their hidden sister Vertebra?
Theme naming is all fine and dandy and it works with the Furrytellers or the BBS trio because it doesn't sound totally ridiculous.
I never claimed that the unofficial translations are flawless, only that they make more sense in conjunction with the rest of the series and simply flow better than several instances of the official ones.
"Brain" is not a name for a person but an organ. It's simply stupid when you have an actual name at hand with "Blaine" which is how he was originally called.
I agree that it's a bit silly, but Nomura clearly wanted it to be like that, so it's not a translation error.
bit too late for this lol
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(my heart still hurts from no "We'll go together" ;-; )
Wait a minute, what did he say in Global?
Also it's actually baffling that they re-translate scenes already in the damn game.
I mean, I know the team running this localization is kind of garbage (can't count the number of bugs, errors, and broken notices I've seen), but that's just absurd.
Wait a minute, what did he say in Global?
Also it's actually baffling that they re-translate scenes already in the damn game.
I mean, I know the team running this localization is kind of garbage (can't count the number of bugs, errors, and broken notices I've seen), but that's just absurd.
"Let's go."
"Let's go."
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"Let's go."
Sucks that the official translations of both of the scenes that have "We'll go together", the Ephemer one and the YX one from DDD, replace the line with completely different lines.
Legit didn't even know what you guys were talking about with the "we'll go together" line. It wasn't memorable whatsoever, in fact, the reverse from Xemnas (YOU shall go together) was way more memorable.
Is there a chance that the international game will keep up with the japanese one (like Dark Road)? In terms of story
tfw you realize you can't even trust SE to translate staff messages correctly anymore
Is there a chance that the international game will keep up with the japanese one (like Dark Road)? In terms of story
There's always a chance, but we try not to get our hopes up.
"Brain" is not a name for a person but an organ. It's simply stupid when you have an actual name at hand with "Blaine" which is how he was originally called.
As stupid as Brain's name sounds, the name actually comes from the computer virus that infected MS-DOS on January 1986. Blaine was just the fan-translated name that sounded better.
Brain called himself a virus and he's from The Age of Fairytales. So if we put two and two together, we can see why he's called Brain.
I'm inclined to believe that Demyx is actually from the world of Verum Rex like Luxord is. The Arc already has five spots:
* Ventus
* Lauriam
* Skuld
* Brain/Ephemer
* Elerna
Between Brain and Ephemer someone has to stay and build upon the ruins of flooded Daybreak Town what will be Scala ad Caelum, so there's no room for Demyx in an arc.
...'less Demyx is the MoM :v
I like this for the simple reason that Demyx would essentially be Yozora's Prompto in this scenario. Yozora might be an edgelord (hopefully not if he's basically supposed to be what Noctis in VXIII was going to be like, which I imagine maybe not all that different from his XV iteration), so you need that goofball to round it all out. Otherwise Versus is going to be "Man Too Angry To Die - The Video Game", and I really don't think we're gonna go in this direction for Kingdom Hearts lmao. The extremely edgy JRPG phase was like in 2005, Idunno if I'm ready to go back. And I loved what's currently known about Versus.
And why Keyblades are so rare now? Maybe what Yozora meant by "saving" Sora was saving him from the Keyblade legacy?
Keyblades are first and foremost weapons of destruction that destroyed the World, so it makes sense why someone would want to develop something against that.
Very well could be. I mean, a weapon that could make a world fall by finding its Keyhole? Even as much as we currently know about the Keyblade, I think it's pretty understandable why Triton didn't want to even entertain the idea of Sora sticking around in Atlantica back in KH1. Imagine all the stuff we don't know about them.
I forget who it was, but I remember they had an idea about Anti-Keyblade weaponry for the next saga. With such a powerful weapon, and most of the cast getting one, a good way to sorta "nerf" the importance of a Keyblade is to have something in place that's directly supposed to counter against it.
Yozora swiped Sora's Keyblade pretty easily, and that's something that should be impossible. Only other time something like that happened was back in KH1 when Riku took the Kingdom Key back, but that was more like a dispute of ownership. And if Yozora's weapons are meant to counter a Keyblade, then I guess the Keyblade probably came from there originally too.
Maybe it is time to introduce FF summons and someone just summoned Leviathan. :p
I thought about this the other day, and how it would be nice to have FF summons finally making an appearance.
As stupid as Brain's name sounds, the name actually comes from the computer virus that infected MS-DOS on January 1986. Blaine was just the fan-translated name that sounded better.
Brain called himself a virus and he's from The Age of Fairytales. So if we put two and two together, we can see why he's called Brain.
Yeah, a "virus in the Master's program that he so carefully wrote." Or something like that. We don't even really know anything about Brain either, so as dumb as the name might sound, it could all come together in this last stretch of Union X.
I like this for the simple reason that Demyx would essentially be Yozora's Prompto in this scenario. Yozora might be an edgelord (hopefully not if he's basically supposed to be what Noctis in VXIII was going to be like, which I imagine maybe not all that different from his XV iteration), so you need that goofball to round it all out. Otherwise Versus is going to be "Man Too Angry To Die - The Video Game", and I really don't think we're gonna go in this direction for Kingdom Hearts lmao. The extremely edgy JRPG phase was like in 2005, Idunno if I'm ready to go back. And I loved what's currently known about Versus.
Yes, and Luxord could be his Prompto. All is missing is his Gladio, lol.
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