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KINGDOM HEARTS 3 Japanese Cinema Trailer

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Published on December 16, 2018 @ 09:00 am
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If you've been to the movie theaters recently, there's a chance you've seen a trailer KINGDOM HEARTS 3 being screened during the opening previews. This trailer, featuring a variety of scenes in the Disney worlds, has been playing only in western cinemas. So as to not to leave fans in Japan out of the excitement, Series Director Tetsuya Nomura took to Twitter to announce that a Japanese cinema trailer would be released on December 16th at 6:00pm JST.

Watch the Japanese cinema trailer for Kingdom Hearts 3!

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Chaser

December 16, 2018 @ 09:09 amOffline

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And there's Let It Go​!

Takarifan101

December 16, 2018 @ 09:09 amOffline

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Could we really be getting a Wreck it world? I mean why else would they include that?

Alpha Baymax

December 16, 2018 @ 09:13 amOffline

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What's up with Ralph popping up at the end of the trailer? It seems... suspicious.

the red monster

December 16, 2018 @ 09:14 amOffline

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Hmm sora is crying, can anyone translate that ?

MATGSY

December 16, 2018 @ 09:15 amOffline

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Alpha Baymax
What's up with Ralph popping up at the end of the trailer? It seems... suspicious.

He's a summon, it was the toy story world.

Zettaflare

December 16, 2018 @ 09:15 amOffline

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Wreck it Ralph world reveal on Monday night? It's all or nothing at this point.

Takarifan101

December 16, 2018 @ 09:15 amOffline

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Someone from my discord group said it was something along the lines of him being unable to do it alone

Sora2016

December 16, 2018 @ 09:15 amOffline

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I am very distraught over Sora crying tbh.

Takarifan101
Could we really be getting a Wreck it world? I mean why else would they include that?


Alpha Baymax
What's up with Ralph popping up at the end of the trailer? It seems... suspicious.


I think the movie just came out in Japan

Edit: Ralph Breaks the Internet, specifically lol. Not the original

Paige712

December 16, 2018 @ 09:16 amOffline

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Omg Sora's crying made me want to hug him! I hate seeing my beautiful boy like that.

Alpha Baymax

December 16, 2018 @ 09:18 amOffline

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Sora2016
I think the movie just came out in Japan

Edit: Ralph Breaks the Internet, specifically lol. Not the original


Nope, the movie does not come out until December 21st in Japan, and we have another trailer for the 18th.

Zettaflare

December 16, 2018 @ 09:18 amOffline

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I'm hoping they give a bit of variety to the Let it Go sequence. Have Elsa fight some heartless during her musical number, lol.

Sora2016

December 16, 2018 @ 09:19 amOffline

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Alpha Baymax
Nope, the movie does not come out until December 21st in Japan, and we have another trailer for the 18th.


I know we have another trailer, but I still think this is just gonna be played in front of the movie in a few days then lol. I knew it was soon, couldn't remember when though, thanks for letting me know ha.

LostArtist

December 16, 2018 @ 09:20 amOffline

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nice

Chaser

December 16, 2018 @ 09:20 amOffline

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Ralph's in there because it's still an advertisement in Japanese cinemas. It's nice cross-promotion. Fans of KH may see the ad in front of other movies and think "oh I might see the movie in cinemas rather than waiting for it on home media", whereas people seeing the movie may see the ad and think "oh, there's a video game with this character I'm about to watch in it? That's awesome!"

I applaud those always holding on for hope but there's logical explanations for everything these last few months.

Sign

December 16, 2018 @ 09:21 amOffline

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Alpha Baymax
What's up with Ralph popping up at the end of the trailer? It seems... suspicious.


Nomura's tweet says this trailer debuted during an airing of Wreck-It-Ralph on DLife (basically Disney Channel) and will be screened before Ralph Breaks the Internet.

Alpha Baymax

December 16, 2018 @ 09:22 amOffline

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LostArtist
nice


Nice catch, looks like 2.9 is indeed going to be a part of Kingdom Hearts III. That may ultimately explain why Alyson was kept as Kairi's voice actor.

Takarifan101

December 16, 2018 @ 09:22 amOffline

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Could they be teasing it for KHUX maybe? I'm honestly of the group that doesn't believe it's happening, but to waste 4 seconds of a 30 second trailer on it? It has to be teasing something... right?

EDIT: Nevermind, I just updated the forum. Thanks for the info Sign!

Unusual1290

December 16, 2018 @ 09:25 amOffline

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Great. Let the annoying, delusional WIR world threads begin again. 🙄

Zettaflare

December 16, 2018 @ 09:25 amOffline

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Really have to wonder what could have happened to cause Sora to break down like this. Kind of reminds me of his torment in DDD feeling the suffering of others.

The_Echo

December 16, 2018 @ 09:26 amOffline

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Sora: 俺はみんながいたから戦えたんだ!一人じゃダメなんだ
I could only fight because everyone was here. I can't do it alone.

Riku: 心が面したことは誰も止められない。At least, I think I heard that right.
Nobody can stop what I've set my heart on
Not 100% on this one

Chaser

December 16, 2018 @ 09:28 amOffline

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Swoosh
Really have to wonder what could have happened to cause Sora to break down like this. Kind of reminds me of his torment in DDD feeling the suffering of others.

"Only when your hopes have been broken by battle upon battle can the key to Kingdom Hearts be claimed."

Basically, Master Xehanort is winning at that point of the game.

Leaferian

December 16, 2018 @ 09:28 amOffline

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LostArtist
nice

Very cool. Yeah, looks like we will probably do the runup to that scene from Sora's perspective.

Alpha Baymax

December 16, 2018 @ 09:28 amOffline

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Sign
Nomura's tweet says this trailer debuted during an airing of Wreck-It-Ralph on DLife (basically Disney Channel) and will be screened before Ralph Breaks the Internet.


Oh? Wasn't aware about that. So much for hidden meanings.

Sora2016

December 16, 2018 @ 09:28 amOffline

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The_Echo
Sora: 俺はみんながいたから戦えたんだ!一人じゃダメなんだ
I could only fight because everyone was here. I can't do it alone.

Riku: 心が面したことは誰も止められない。At least, I think I heard that right.
Nobody can stop what you faced in your heart(?)
Not 100% on this one


I caught that he was saying about being alone, which already concerned me. This sorta solidifies that lol... I don't like the implications.

Xblade13

December 16, 2018 @ 09:39 amOffline

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For a short little teaser this one was actually more exciting for me than the Pooh one. I can't wait until the 18th now...

OathkeeperRoxas XIII

December 16, 2018 @ 09:47 amOffline

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Who broke Sora again, that is the question?

Luminary

December 16, 2018 @ 10:08 amOffline

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Alpha Baymax
What's up with Ralph popping up at the end of the trailer? It seems... suspicious.


I get the logic of the naysayers. However, the first Cinema trailer released in the same timeframe to WBTI and also had a shot of Ralph, but it wasn’t a tag at the end. Why put it at the end this time? Also, this was initially planned to be released on the 21st, but was moved to the 16th for some reason. It could definitely be nothing more than a tag to relate the trailer to the movie, but there’s also the possibility of it being a tease. We still have that Sugar Rush Pudding Heartless to be explained after all. We’ll find out one way or another Tuesday and this can all be over... Finally. Lol

Chaser

December 16, 2018 @ 10:12 amOffline

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Zip
I get the logic of the naysayers. However, the first Cinema trailer released in the same timeframe to WBTI and also had a shot of Ralph, but it wasn’t a tag at the end. Why put it at the end this time? Also, this was initially planned to be released on the 21st, but was moved to the 16th for some reason. It could definitely be nothing more than a tag to relate the trailer to the movie, but there’s also the possibility of it being a tease. We still have that Sugar Rush Pudding Heartless to be explained after all. We’ll find out one way or another Tuesday and this can all be over... Finally. Lol

They released the trailer at the same time as the first Wreck-it-Ralph is playing on D-Life in Japan (TV station) and this commercial is playing during the film.

Luminary

December 16, 2018 @ 10:18 amOffline

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Chaser
They released the trailer at the same time as the first Wreck-it-Ralph is playing on D-Life in Japan (TV station) and this commercial is playing during the film.


I saw this. It doesn’t really affect the chances of it also being a teaser though. Again, not saying it is. But if Ralph is revealed Tuesday, in retrospect, this would definitely be seen as a teaser.

Pokie

December 16, 2018 @ 11:08 amOffline

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OathkeeperRoxas XIII
Who broke Sora again, that is the question?


@ the character who has broke Sora


Luminary

December 16, 2018 @ 11:23 amOffline

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Here’s my theory in dialogue form:

Sora: I could only fight because everyone was here. I can’t do this alone!

*A familiar voice comes from off screen*

Roxas: You’re not alone.

Sora and Roxas then kick some ass together.

AmaryllisMoth

December 16, 2018 @ 11:31 amOffline

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Sora: 俺はみんながいたから戦えたんだ!一人じゃダメなんだ
I could only fight because everyone was here. I can't do it alone.

Riku: 心が面したことは誰も止められない。

At least, I think I heard that right.


Nobody can stop what you faced in your heart(?)
Not 100% on this one



Right on the Sora one, not quite on the Riku one.

Riku is saying 心が命じたことは誰も止められない。This means more like no one can stop me from doing what my heart says I have to do.

Luminary

December 16, 2018 @ 11:35 amOffline

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AmaryllisMoth
Right on the Sora one, not quite on the Riku one.

Riku is saying 心が命じたことは誰も止められない。This means more like no one can stop me from doing what my heart says I have to do.


Didnt he say something similar about Ansem the Wise sacrificing himself? That makes me nervous. Lol

bagcifreak

December 16, 2018 @ 12:01 pmOffline

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Oh jeez Ralph having an appearance at the end is so suspicious. I think it's a tease for the 18th.

gosoxtim

December 16, 2018 @ 12:31 pmOffline

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So since we getting let it go that means we getting the full I see the light as well

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KH fan 1989

December 16, 2018 @ 01:41 pmOffline

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So is this the last trailer?

Chainofmemories

December 16, 2018 @ 01:49 pmOffline

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Zip
Didnt he say something similar about Ansem the Wise sacrificing himself? That makes me nervous. Lol

I don't want Riku sacrifices himself! No after all he has been through... He deserves to stay alive :'(
The scene of Sora crying and feeling hopeless made me feel very sad for him. Could this scene be the one of scenes of the chess game when the chess piece of Sora is alone and surrounded by Xehanort's chess pieces?

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Swing

December 16, 2018 @ 01:54 pmOffline

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Chainofmemories
I don't want Riku sacrifices himself! No after all he has been through... He deserves to stay alive :'(
The scene of Sora crying and feeling hopeless made me feel very sad for him. Could this scene be the one of scenes of the chess game when the chess piece of Sora is alone and surrounded by Xehanort's chess pieces?


I don't think that anyone will die in KH3. And if they will do, they will later come back to life. With the KH cast it is the same issue with Sonic's cast. The characters are just way to beloved by fans and the creators to let them die.

Oracle Spockanort

December 16, 2018 @ 02:01 pmOffline

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Zip
Didnt he say something similar about Ansem the Wise sacrificing himself? That makes me nervous. Lol


It is a callback line, for sure.

[video=youtube;CDAZzQA0fpQ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDAZzQA0fpQ[/video]

SuperSaiyanSora

December 16, 2018 @ 02:07 pmOffline

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The_Echo
Sora: 俺はみんながいたから戦えたんだ!一人じゃダメなんだ
I could only fight because everyone was here. I can't do it alone.

Riku: 心が面したことは誰も止められない。At least, I think I heard that right.
Nobody can stop what I've set my heart on
Not 100% on this one


Willing to guess that this is the part of where the prophecy of where the Light is about to be snuffed out is happening. Sora looks to be at a place that's rocky, so possibly the Keyblade Graveyard. I'm guessing that given what he's saying here and seeing him on his knees crying, maybe everyone else were defeated. It also reminds me of the chess game in one of the trailers where YX says checkmate. So whatever that's happening, it's not looking good for Sora at all.

Chaser

December 16, 2018 @ 02:23 pmOffline

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gosoxtim
So since we getting let it go that means we getting the full I see the light as well

No it doesn’t.

Frozen and Let It Go was absolutely massive in Japan, which is why the included it. Osaka putting the lantern scene in does not guarantee that I Can See The Light is being included.

gosoxtim

December 16, 2018 @ 02:33 pmOffline

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Chaser
No it doesn’t.

Frozen and Let It Go was absolutely massive in Japan, which is why the included it. Osaka putting the lantern scene in does not guarantee that I Can See The Light is being included.
damm that sucks oh I hope idina voice changed doesn’t affect us the scene as much then

FudgemintGuardian

December 16, 2018 @ 02:43 pmOffline

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That little bit where Sora meets Remy makes my heart melt. <3

KH fan 1989
So is this the last trailer?
Nope! The final trailer will be either on the 18th.

Luminary

December 16, 2018 @ 02:49 pmOffline

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Of course, it doesn’t mean I See the Light will be in, but I sure hope it is. Even if it’s an orchestration of it.

Yborra

December 16, 2018 @ 02:57 pmOffline

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Interesting. I believe the ”Let it Go” sequence is pre rendered, Elsa’s dress simulation is way better than Rapunzel’s ingame dress.
I hope “I see the Light” is on the game too, I love that song ❤️

Oracle Spockanort

December 16, 2018 @ 03:15 pmOffline

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gosoxtim
damm that sucks oh I hope idina voice changed doesn’t affect us the scene as much then


It would probably be the studio version of the song and not a completely new performance of it. It shouldn’t be jarring at all.

Sakuraba Neku

December 16, 2018 @ 03:24 pmOffline

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Besides the first scene, this trailer was as disappointing as I expected it to be.

And it's another trailer where Riku speaks and yet we don't have a english version to officially confirm David Gallagher's return. It's such a strange coincidence. I'm getting anxious...=\

Final Trailer so be it!

Twilight Lumiair

December 16, 2018 @ 04:59 pmOffline

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Alrighty, so I've had this idea for a weeks now, and thanks to this trailer, I'm much more confident about it. Since KH3 was first announced, I was one of the ones who believed, if nothing more than for the sake of poetic value (when looking at the title of the game) that there would at least 3 people left to oppose Xehanort when all was lost (KH1- Sora; KH2- Sora and Riku). For months, I personally believed, and hoped, that these potential three would be Sora, Roxas, and Ventus. The opening (from what we've seen) appeared to mildly support this idea: showing the three of them reaching out for the female of their trio before being left alone in the end, indicating to me that they shared a similar goal. Grant it, the openings have always been more conceptual than anything else, so this wasn't the strongest of evidence. However, in the past few weeks, I've since changed my mind on who the final three might end up being.

As odd as it seems, there's more upfront evidence that Terra will be one of the final lights to oppose Xehanort. Bare with me please, but as we've seen from short version of the Big Hero 6 trailer, Terranort is standing at the base of the Rising Ruins. We later see Lingering Will attacking Terranort (much to the later's surprise); indicating to me that LW shows up suddenly and at the last minute. All of this said, my guess is that Terranort will be more of a literal guard for the Seeker's while they carry out the final stages of their plan (explaining why we see 14 gold chess pieces- if we're counting Terranort's). This may put him in the perfect position to be saved, and ultimately assist Sora in his hour of need. Putting him as one of the final characters to oppose Xehanort.

Other than Terra, I still believe Roxas will be among the final three for a few reasons. 1) We see him at the base of the rising structure in the BH6 trailer (more on this later); 2) We know thanks to Nomura that Roxas will have a major role, we just don't know WHAT; 3) Roxas saving Sora would perfectly allow things to come full circle since Sora would have just recently revived him. His sudden appearance at the end also makes sense symbolically since we never see his chess piece in any trailer (implying that he could be an unforeseen wrench thrown into Xehanort's plans, similar to Aqua in BBS), and this may shed light on Eraqus' final move after supposedly being in "checkmate."

My resolve for this theory was strengthened by what this trailer shows. It immediately opens up with Sora on his knees pleading for help, all while showing shots of his lost friends. But you wanna know what's interesting? The first two shots are of Roxas and Terra specifically, THEN everyone else (also importent to note, this is from the opening that went out of it's way to introduce the trio's in chronological order). Coincidence? Maybe, until you realize that the same thing happened in the DDD opening. Roxas appeared first, then Terra second; followed by Ventus and Aqua. Furthermore, and correct me if I'm wrong, but have we seen a hint of anyone besides these three (in terms of the guardians) being present when the Seekers are on their rising platform (which I believe is after they already put down the Guardians of Light)? Yes we saw Riku, Mickey, Lea, Kairi, Donald, and Goofy fighting with Sora, but it was more so against a gigantic horde of heartless, Unversed, and Nobodies, rather than the actual Seekers themselves (which may explain how all the guardians were possibly beat while the Seekers seemed t remain perfectly fine [something I always found strange]). And we haven't seen even one shot of Ventus or Aqua in what I'm assuming is the end game scenario (suggesting that, for whatever reason, they may end up sitting this one out).

Overall, I somewhat like this idea. It gives Terra the chance to properly make up for his mistakes (fulfilling his promise), and it gives Roxas the chance to truly stop being selfish (unless forced otherwise) and finally repay Sora for working so hard to save him (something he himself was beginning to doubt was possible in DDD). I imagine there will be some heartfelt words between two (Roxas & Sora). During it all, Sora may finally end up fulfilling his destiny. Also- and I just now thought of this, if Roxas is the one to pick Sora back up from his despair (which would explain the upward shot of him in the BH6 trailer, since Sora's on his knees), then he'd be the "key" to helping Sora unlock his destiny. Sort of explains why he was thematically given the title: "Key of Destiny," doesn't it?

Oracle Spockanort

December 16, 2018 @ 05:42 pmOffline

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Sakuraba Neku
Besides the first scene, this trailer was as disappointing as I expected it to be.

And it's another trailer where Riku speaks and yet we don't have a english version to officially confirm David Gallagher's return. It's such a strange coincidence. I'm getting anxious...=\

Final Trailer so be it!


It’s a 30s CM for theaters. I don’t think there was much to expect from it, or anything to draw any conclusions from in terms of cast.

TheZX

December 16, 2018 @ 06:05 pmOffline

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The feels are real! Ya can't just hit me with Sora in pain like that from the start!

Luminary

December 16, 2018 @ 06:23 pmOffline

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This game is really going to have to work overtime if it wants me to think it isn’t good. It deserves GOTY for the little high five with Remy alone.

Sakuraba Neku

December 16, 2018 @ 06:24 pmOffline

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Oracle Spockanort
It’s a 30s CM for theaters. I don’t think there was much to expect from it, or anything to draw any conclusions from in terms of cast.

I know. I'm just not liking this strange coincidence of everytime we get an english trailer, it's one where Riku doesn't talk. We've already heard most of the major characters by now, including Master Xehanort's new voice.

The fact there still isn't any official confirmation of David Gallagher's return, as far as I know, doesn't help either.

the red monster

December 16, 2018 @ 06:38 pmOffline

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Zip
This game is really going to have to work overtime if it wants me to think it isn’t good. It deserves GOTY for the little high five with Remy alone.

It got my vote for goty because aquanort
real talk, if they dare killing aqua at kh3 i'm throwing my ps4 out the window.

TruestSyn

December 16, 2018 @ 07:53 pmOffline

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Twilight Lumiair
Alrighty, so I've had this idea for a weeks now, and thanks to this trailer, I'm much more confident about it. Since KH3 was first announced, I was one of the ones who believed, if nothing more than for the sake of poetic value (when looking at the title of the game) that there would at least 3 people left to oppose Xehanort when all was lost (KH1- Sora; KH2- Sora and Riku). For months, I personally believed, and hoped, that these potential three would be Sora, Roxas, and Ventus. The opening (from what we've seen) appeared to mildly support this idea: showing the three of them reaching out for the female of their trio before being left alone in the end, indicating to me that they shared a similar goal. Grant it, the openings have always been more conceptual than anything else, so this wasn't the strongest of evidence. However, in the past few weeks, I've since changed my mind on who the final three might end up being.

As odd as it seems, there's more upfront evidence that Terra will be one of the final lights to oppose Xehanort. Bare with me please, but as we've seen from short version of the Big Hero 6 trailer, Terranort is standing at the base of the Rising Ruins. We later see Lingering Will attacking Terranort (much to the later's surprise); indicating to me that LW shows up suddenly and at the last minute. All of this said, my guess is that Terranort will be more of a literal guard for the Seeker's while they carry out the final stages of their plan (explaining why we see 14 gold chess pieces- if we're count Terranort's). This may put him in the perfect position to be saved, and ultimately assist Sora in his hour of need. Putting him as one of the final characters to oppose Xehanort.

Other than Terra, I still believe Roxas will be among the final three for a few reasons. 1) We see him at the base of the rising structure in the BH6 trailer (more on this later); 2) We know thanks to Nomura that Roxas will have a major role, we just don't know WHAT; 3) Roxas saving Sora would perfectly allow things to come full circle since Sora would have just recently revived him. His sudden appearance at the end also makes sense symbolically since we never see his chess piece in any trailer (implying that he could be an unforeseen wrench thrown into Xehanort's plans, similar to Aqua in BBS), and this may shed light on Eraqus' final move after supposedly being in "checkmate."

My resolved for this theory was strengthened by what this trailer shows. It immediately opens up with Sora on his knees pleading for help, all while showing shots of his lost friends. But you wanna know what's interesting? The first two shots are of Roxas and Terra specifically, THEN everyone else. Coincidence? Maybe, until you realize that the same thing happened in the DDD opening. Roxas appeared first, then Terra second; followed by Ventus and Aqua. Furthermore, and correct me if I'm wrong, but have we seen a hint of anyone besides these three (in terms of the guardians) being present when the Seekers are on their rising platform (which I believe is after they already put down the Guardians of Light)? Yes we saw Riku, Mickey, Lea, Kairi, Donald, and Goofy fighting with Sora, but it was more so against a gigantic horde of heartless, Unversed, and Nobodies, rather than the actual Seekers themselves (which may explain how all the guardians were possibly beat while the Seekers seemed t remain perfectly fine [something I always found strange]). And we haven't seen even one shot of Ventus or Aqua in what I'm assuming is the end game scenario (suggesting that, for whatever reason, they may end up sitting this one out).

Overall, I somewhat like this idea. It gives Terra the chance to properly make up for his mistakes (fulfilling his promise), and it gives Roxas the chance to truly stop being selfish (unless forced otherwise) and finally repay Sora for working so hard to save him (something he himself was beginning to doubt was possible in DDD). I imagine there will be some heartfelt words between two (Roxas & Sora). During it all, Sora may finally end up fulfilling his destiny. Also- and I just now thought of this, if Roxas is the one to pick Sora back up from his despair (which would explain the upward shot of him in the BH6 trailer, since Sora's on his knees), then he'd be the "key" to helping Sora unlock his destiny. Sort of explains why he was thematically given the title: "Key of Destiny," doesn't it?


:O We have a very similar thought process! I was saying pretty early on that I want Lingering Will to show up if they go to the graveyard and battle either with Sora or solo against Xemnas and Ansem SoD and fuse them back to Terranort and then I want him to force himself on Terranort and when the armor melts away (similar to Armored Ventus Nightmare) we see the newly revived Terra, fully pissed and ready to kick some ass in the name of Ven (who may be corrupted) and Aqua.

Roxas is my favorite character and since that scene of him in front of the structure I expected he was showing up as a hero to make a line, similar to Lea in 3D, about showing up to save the day. I want him to taunt Lea in a way that implies he heard from inside Sora what was going on at the time because I feel like that lost sarcasm would come back to someone who can finally be himself again.

ROKU-SHI

December 16, 2018 @ 08:21 pmOffline

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Can we please have a jungle book world?

Twilight Lumiair

December 16, 2018 @ 08:26 pmOffline

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TruestSyn
:O We have a very similar thought process! I was saying pretty early on that I want Lingering Will to show up if they go to the graveyard and battle either with Sora or solo against Xemnas and Ansem SoD and fuse them back to Terranort and then I want him to force himself on Terranort and when the armor melts away (similar to Armored Ventus Nightmare) we see the newly revived Terra, fully pissed and ready to kick some ass in the name of Ven (who may be corrupted) and Aqua.

Roxas is my favorite character and since that scene of him in front of the structure I expected he was showing up as a hero to make a line, similar to Lea in 3D, about showing up to save the day. I want him to taunt Lea in a way that implies he heard from inside Sora what was going on at the time because I feel like that lost sarcasm would come back to someone who can finally be himself again.


Someone actually responded to this?! :o

Honestly, I do love the idea of the LW finishing what he started in BBS and taking back his body, I just didn't think it would actually happen till we saw the trailers. In hindsight, it actually makes more sense than I gave it credit for. Seriously, what other potentially corrupted character at this point would have the ability to save themself?That said, aren't Ansem SoD and Xemnas time displaced? I don't necessarily think that's how Terranort's coming back, but the whole concept of Ansem, Xemnas, Xehanort AND Terranort existing at the same time was just a trainwreck to begin with. That said, I do still believe it'll end with him getting saved at that moment, and him fighting on the right side in the end gives me hope for a proper conclusion of his character.

It terms of Roxas, I also had a really sneaking suspicion that he was probably saving Lea in that shot (and on that subject, we haven't seen a peice for Lea either, so I'm unsure what his status will be at this stage of the game). I definitely want some kind of interatcion between the two in the final battle, but I'm not confident if we'll get that or not. IMO though, it's one of the things that needs to happen if we're to get proper closure on those two characters.

TruestSyn

December 16, 2018 @ 08:32 pmOffline

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Twilight Lumiair
Someone actually responded to this?! :o

Honestly, I do love the idea of the LW finishing what he started in BBS and taking back his body, I just didn't think it would actually happen till we saw the trailers. In hindsight, it actually makes more sense than I gave it credit for. Seriously, what other potentially corrupted character at this point would have the ability to save themself?That said, aren't Ansem SoD and Xemnas time displaced? I don't necessarily think that's how Terranort's coming back, but the whole concept of Ansem, Xemnas, Xehanort AND Terranort's existing at the same time was just a Trainwreck to begin with. That said, I do still believe it'll end with him getting saved at that moment, and him fighting on the right side in the end gives me hope for a proper conclusion of his character.

It terms of Roxas, I also had a really sneaking suspicion that he was probably saving Lea in that shot (and on that subject, we haven't seen a peice for Lea either, so I'm unsure what his status will be at this stage of the game). I definitely want some kind of interatcion between the two in the final battle, but I'm not confident if we'll get that or not.


Of course, cause this is a bomb ass theory :cool:

Yeah, I didn't think about the time displacement when I first came up with the idea, which now after seeing Terranort already means that he's there somehow as a part of it all. He's in Terra's outfit though, not an Org cloak so there's no telling yet what actually goes on there.

Xehanort and his prophecy only state there had to be 7 Lights and 13 Darknesses, nothing said you can't have more or less of either. For all we know, we could still be thinking of the Chess pieces as the key to everything, but it could turn out the chess game is the heroes trying to stop the 13 darknesses from using the 7 pure hearts instead. For all we know, Xehanort may not be the 13 darknesses, there could be 13 dark hearts too. I do, however, strongly believe that Roxas will be good and Lea will definitely be a hero. In recent screenshots Lea is mentioning Ventus, so there may be more we see regarding his feelings towards these two friends that look the same and he has to save one (I've got a strong feeling Venitus will be "whole") while fighting alongside the other.

Twilight Lumiair

December 16, 2018 @ 09:02 pmOffline

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TruestSyn
Of course, cause this is a bomb ass theory :cool:

Yeah, I didn't think about the time displacement when I first came up with the idea, which now after seeing Terranort already means that he's there somehow as a part of it all. He's in Terra's outfit though, not an Org cloak so there's no telling yet what actually goes on there.

Xehanort and his prophecy only state there had to be 7 Lights and 13 Darknesses, nothing said you can't have more or less of either. For all we know, we could still be thinking of the Chess pieces as the key to everything, but it could turn out the chess game is the heroes trying to stop the 13 darknesses from using the 7 pure hearts instead. For all we know, Xehanort may not be the 13 darknesses, there could be 13 dark hearts too. I do, however, strongly believe that Roxas will be good and Lea will definitely be a hero. In recent screenshots Lea is mentioning Ventus, so there may be more we see regarding his feelings towards these two friends that look the same and he has to save one (I've got a strong feeling Venitus will be "whole") while fighting alongside the other.


Yeah, I never really considered Terranort to be a true seeker; I just thought of him as some kind of guard for Xehanort primarily cause of this-> The main reason I reference the chess board so much is because in one shot, we see Xehanort place a gold Terra peice down in front of him in direct opposition to Sora's piece (in the shot where Sora's piece is surrounded), and if you look at where Terranort is standing in the short BH6 trailer, you can see the rising platform that Xehanort and his Seekers are standing on in a later trailer. Even Sora crying hopelessly on the ground matches up with his peice being surrounded and with no way out on the chess board. I don't fault anyone for not fully trusting the chess sequence as any kind of foreshadowing, but for me at least, it still has some level of substance to draw conclusions from.

Hmm... I'd actually forgotten about that recent screenshot with Lea and Kairi. You're right that it could definitely be some negative foreshadowing for Ven; tbh I wouldn't be surprised if Venitas makes an appearance after all. That said, there are couple of things I'd like to point out such as Nomura stating in an interview that we'd get to see how all the characters felt about eachother in this game, including one's that don't normally interact. This could explain why Lea brought up Ven now as opposed to when he saw Roxas. Also, since Vanitas looks like Sora, that's just as much of a reason to keep his face hidden (especially for those who may not have played BBS) as him having possessed Ven. Anyway, I concur with the belief that Roxas won't be antagonistic (to any major degree at least), and I too hope Lea might do something heroic in the end (though his act at the end of DDD definitely satisfies that personal want too). If I had a gripe with all this though, it's that Xion will likely end up norted with no substantial heroic act of her own (which has, and probably will continue to tick me off).

TruestSyn

December 16, 2018 @ 09:09 pmOffline

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Twilight Lumiair
Yeah, I never really considered Terranort to be a true seeker; I just thought of him as some kind of guard for Xehanort primarily cause of this-> The main reason I reference the chess board so much is because in one shot, we see Xehanort place a gold Terra peice down in front of him in direct opposition to Sora's piece (in the shot where Sora's piece is surrounded), and if you look at where Terranort is standing in the short BH6 trailer, you can see the rising platform that Xehanort and his Seekers are standing on in a later trailer. Even Sora crying hopelessly on the ground matches up with his peice being surrounded and with no way out on the chess board. I don't fault anyone for not fully trusting the chess sequence as any kind of foreshadowing, but for me at least, it still has some level of substance to draw conclusions from.

Hmm... I'd actually forgotten about that recent screenshot with Lea and Kairi. You're right that it could definitely be some negative foreshadowing for Ven; tbh I wouldn't be surprised if Venitas makes an appearance after all. That said, there are couple of things I'd like to point out such as Nomura stating in an interview that we'd get to see how all the characters felt about eachother in this game, including one's that don't normally interact. This could explain why Lea brought up Ven now as opposed to when he saw Roxas. Anyway, I concur with the belief that Roxas won't be antagonistic (to any major degree at least), and I too hope Lea might do something heroic in the end (though his act at the end of DDD definitely satisfies that personal want too). If I had a gripe with all this though, it's that Xion will likely end up norted with no substantial heroic act of her own (which has, and probably will continue to tick me off).


I'm not saying we should disregard the Chess game, but Xehanort is a tricky bugger and has plans for his plan's plans so we don't know what he might pull.

Yeah, I was happy seeing Lea be a hero and act more like his BBS self again. Xion, however, from the beginning she's been nothing but a shell and I'm hoping this will finally be her chance to become a real person (the whole Pinocchio debate about puppets and hearts [they'll both become real boys in KH3!]) but she's not really had much reason to be heroic other than stopping the Org from killing Roxas early and sacrificing herself to let Sora reawaken. If she hadn't, Sora may never have woken up.

Maybe to please the Sora/Riku love interest crowd, she could become KH1 Sora like she was at the end of Days and she can run away with Riku Replica and be lovers lol JKJK

kaseykockroach

December 16, 2018 @ 09:16 pmOffline

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So....are we getting a musical mini-game with Elsa singing?
...Huh. Alrighty then. I'm up for it.

SWIM THIS WAY, WE'LL DANCE AND WE'LL PLAY NOW

TruestSyn

December 16, 2018 @ 09:19 pmOffline

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kaseykockroach
So....are we getting a musical mini-game with Elsa singing?
...Huh. Alrighty then. I'm up for it.

SWIM THIS WAY, WE'LL DANCE AND WE'LL PLAY NOW


DON'T YOU WISH THIS EVIL ON ME!

EDIT: Also they said from the beginning of Frozen's reveal that the Let it Go segment would be included because it's important. Obviously it takes place after Sora gets there, I wonder if he's there with her when it happens or if she runs from them before this happens. Maybe it's his encouraging words about her Ice powers that makes her confident enough to Let it Go.

kaseykockroach

December 16, 2018 @ 09:20 pmOffline

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Sorry, mommy! Your poopsies are toast!

alexis.anagram

December 16, 2018 @ 09:26 pmOffline

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"Watch Sora cry all his tears" was not part of the deal Nomura. Fix this

I hope "Let it Go" is a cutscene, it would be great to have the option to skip it.

kaseykockroach

December 16, 2018 @ 09:29 pmOffline

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I hope KH3's cutscenes are unskippable. I miss that from KH1. :)

"There's no way you're taking Kairi's heart!"

alexis.anagram

December 16, 2018 @ 09:32 pmOffline

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kaseykockroach
I hope KH3's cutscenes are unskippable. I miss that from KH1. :)

"There's no way you're taking Kairi's heart!"

Did you just guess or is it that common of a KH experience that this scene ruined the game due to how many times we were forces to watch it thanks to that stupid awful hard mean Riku boss fight.

kaseykockroach

December 16, 2018 @ 09:36 pmOffline

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Weirdly enough, I didn't have that problem as my difficulty in the game was elsewhere. The second Parasite Cage fight in Monstro still kicks my ass sometimes, yet I beat Riku on the first try. I only learned that was meant to be a toughie upon reading online reactions. Once I get Cura in Neverland, KH1 is no longer a challenge for me until I get to Xemnas in Hollow Bastion.

Oracle Spockanort

December 16, 2018 @ 09:43 pmOffline

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I will angry-sing “Let It Go”. This is how I cope.

Twilight Lumiair

December 16, 2018 @ 09:44 pmOffline

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TruestSyn
I'm not saying we should disregard the Chess game, but Xehanort is a tricky bugger and has plans for his plan's plans so we don't know what he might pull.

Yeah, I was happy seeing Lea be a hero and act more like his BBS self again. Xion, however, from the beginning she's been nothing but a shell and I'm hoping this will finally be her chance to become a real person (the whole Pinocchio debate about puppets and hearts [they'll both become real boys in KH3!]) but she's not really had much reason to be heroic other than stopping the Org from killing Roxas early and sacrificing herself to let Sora reawaken. If she hadn't, Sora may never have woken up.

Maybe to please the Sora/Riku love interest crowd, she could become KH1 Sora like she was at the end of Days and she can run away with Riku Replica and be lovers lol JKJK


This is true. Regardless of how much that chess can potentially foreshadow, we never get to see the conclusion, which means nothing I draw from it is truly set in stone.

I've already given my thoughts on Xion a number of times, but to summarize: Xion, to me, is someone who's always came across as naturally selfless and strong willed (at least much more than the average person); and if we're comparing her to Roxas (for example), it becomes a bit glaring. The way she outright disobeys orders and attacks her friends simply on the suspicion that she's being lied to and not acting within the greater good according to Namine (which she had no way of verifying at the time) shows, to me, that she's heroic at her core and has an extremely high level of empathy. Even before she knew she was harming Roxas, she was fully willing to face death for the sake of someone she didn't even know (Roxas, in contrast, said his iconic line: "I am ME! Nobody else!"). Her being norted would compromise all the work she did in 358 and undermines all the times she had to suppress her own personal desires (being with her friends primarily) which honestly- even as someone who's fascinated by large doses of pathos, just feels unnecessarily cruel. To be frank, she'd be doing precisely what she didn't want to do, and depower all of the things she did want to do. This is just my personal opinions though, but I figured I ought to explain. Ideally, for me neither her nor Roxas would be norted.


Lol, you say that in jest, but I bet that would please a whole bunch of people! XD

TruestSyn

December 16, 2018 @ 09:51 pmOffline

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Twilight Lumiair
This is true. Regardless of how much that chess can potentially foreshadow, we never get to see the conclusion, which means nothing I draw from it is truly set in stone.

I've already given my thoughts on Xion a number of times, but to summarize: Xion, to me, is someone who's always came across as naturally selfless and strong willed (at least much more than the average person); and if we're comparing her Roxas (for example), it becomes a bit glaring. The way she outright disobeys orders and attacks her friends simply on the suspicion that she's being lied and not acting within the greater good according to Namine (which she had no way of verifying at the time) shows, to me, that she's heroic at her core and has an extremely high level of empathy. Even before she knew she was harming Roxas, she was fully willing to face death for the sake of someone she didn't even know Roxas, in contrast, said his iconic line: "I am ME! Nobody else!"). Her being norted would compromise all the work she did in 358 and undermines all the times she had to suppress her own personal desires (being with her friends primarily) which honestly- even as someone who's fascinated by large doses of pathos, just feels unnecessarily cruel. To be frank, she'd be doing precisely what she didn't want to do, and depower all of the things she did want to do. This all just my personal opinions though, but I figured I ought to explain.

Lol, you say that in jest, but I that would please a whole bunch of people! XD


The thing is, with Vexen coming back to the Org, we don't even know what this new Xion is capable of. It could be Xion 2.0 and could just be used to fill the void. She did disappear after all. I'm very VERY intrigued to see where Xion is going in KH3

Oh I know it would lol

Recon

December 16, 2018 @ 09:58 pmOffline

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*slams fist on table* WHERE. IS. SAIX.

alexis.anagram

December 16, 2018 @ 10:01 pmOffline

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kaseykockroach
The second Parasite Cage fight in Monstro still kicks my ass sometimes

Replace "sometimes" with "all times" and it's like you know my pain. Who are you

kaseykockroach

December 16, 2018 @ 10:05 pmOffline

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I'm the answer to your prayers!

Twilight Lumiair

December 16, 2018 @ 10:05 pmOffline

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Recon
*slams fist on table* WHERE. IS. SAIX.


Who? That name sounds so familiar..

Recon

December 16, 2018 @ 10:10 pmOffline

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Twilight Lumiair
Who? That name sounds so familiar..


Twilight Lumiair

December 16, 2018 @ 10:14 pmOffline

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Recon


... Wha- who is this majestic, blue haired angel and why haven't I seen him in a trailer yet! >.>

TruestSyn

December 16, 2018 @ 10:15 pmOffline

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Recon


*pounds fist on own head* PROBABLY. TWILIGHT. TOWN.

We'll see more in 3, we can't know much about the darknesses just yet.

alexis.anagram
Replace "sometimes" with "all times" and it's like you know my pain. Who are you


Come with me my child, and I shall train your minds eye to overcome the power that is PARASITE CAGE II.

Twilight Lumiair
... Wha- who is this majestic, blue haired angel and why haven't I seen him in a trailer yet! >.>


Guess you're....OVER THE MOON FOR HIM???

I'll leave...

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notnow123487

December 16, 2018 @ 10:38 pmOffline

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I think it’s pretty clear that Saïx is the darkness of an unrevealed world since we haven’t seen him yet.

FudgemintGuardian

December 16, 2018 @ 10:53 pmOffline

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Saix for Gummi Bears world please.

Shogo-Kun

December 16, 2018 @ 10:56 pmOffline

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FudgemintGuardian
Saix for Gummi Bears world please.


I would kill for a world based on one of the Disney Afternoon shows...

*still sad about Gargoyles not making the cut*

Zettaflare

December 16, 2018 @ 10:59 pmOffline

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The only Disney world I can see for Saix is Brave, but that doesn't seem likely at this point. Can't really think of anything else, lol.

TruestSyn

December 16, 2018 @ 11:08 pmOffline

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Swoosh
The only Disney world I can see for Saix is Brave, but that doesn't seem likely at this point. Can't really think of anything else, lol.


Cause he's a bear? Lol

I wish we could get some stuff based off TV shows. Mostly want Gravity Falls.

Zettaflare

December 16, 2018 @ 11:15 pmOffline

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TruestSyn
Cause he's a bear? Lol

I wish we could get some stuff based off TV shows. Mostly want Gravity Falls.


Mostly because of similarities he had with the film's villain Mor'du. Plus his main weapon claymores are Scottish weapons

Echoecho6

December 16, 2018 @ 11:17 pmOffline

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I think it's possible that something happens to Isa Halfway causing him to not be in the final lineup. We have over 13 options now, even more if we believe Xion is in that one image, some people are going to get cut. Besides, it is pretty weird seeing him walk up to Lea on top of the clocktower like that...

Twilight Lumiair

December 16, 2018 @ 11:20 pmOffline

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Swoosh
Mostly because of similarities he had with the film's villain Mor'du. Plus his main weapon claymores are Scottish weapons


Interesting, I never noticed his character had any Scottish inspirations. I wonder why though? Hmmm..

Anyway, what are these similarities with Mor'du? I'm curious.

Alpha Baymax

December 16, 2018 @ 11:22 pmOffline

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Echoecho6
I think it's possible that something happens to Isa Halfway causing him to not be in the final lineup. We have over 13 options now, even more if we believe Xion is in that one image, some people are going to get cut. Besides, it is pretty weird seeing him walk up to Lea on top of the clocktower like that...


That goes against Isa's and Saix's character development. He's Lea's former best friend, having him change sides halfway stuns character development for both Lea and Saix.

It's not weird at all to see Saix climbing the clocktower. He would have been smart enough to know that it was Lea's former rendevouz point.

Echoecho6

December 17, 2018 @ 01:38 amOffline

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Alpha Baymax
That goes against Isa's and Saix's character development. He's Lea's former best friend, having him change sides halfway stuns character development for both Lea and Saix.

It's not weird at all to see Saix climbing the clocktower. He would have been smart enough to know that it was Lea's former rendevouz point.


It doesn't hurt character development at all if the keyblade fight happens halfway through the game like people theorized. They can show up and think it is the final showdown, something happens specifically with Isa during this fight, and then everyone leaves because it didn't go how they thought and now the real final battle is at an unknown world and we continue through the rest of the story, Saix not being in any Disney worlds to come because his arc was fulfilled in that climactic showdown which also causes them to replace him with either Vexen, or whoever.

KH2 was a huge story with beginning, middle, and end. If you think KH3 is only going to have a beginning and end you are crazy.

kirabook

December 17, 2018 @ 02:38 amOffline

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So yeah, that trailer for the opening was definitely a huge chop up of the real opening based on this 30s trailer.

FudgemintGuardian

December 17, 2018 @ 03:24 amOffline

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Swoosh
The only Disney world I can see for Saix is Brave, but that doesn't seem likely at this point. Can't really think of anything else, lol.
Because Saix is Scottish? XD

Luminary

December 17, 2018 @ 03:48 amOffline

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I still think Saix would be best in Atlantis since he draws power from the moon and Atlanteans draw power from their crystal. He also is like Rourke in that he doesn’t mind betraying people who get in his way. They both also have berserk modes.

I think Xaldin would be great in Brave though. He has a history with people transformed into beasts by curses. (Speaking of which, Beast would be a great link summon for the world.)

Zettaflare

December 17, 2018 @ 04:04 amOffline

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FudgemintGuardian
Because Saix is Scottish? XD

Well like I mentioned earlier Saix has a lot in common with the villain Mor'du. He had a close relationship with his brothers but he ended up driving them away for his own selfish reasons. That mirrors Saix and Axel's relationship. And both of them turned beastly, more in the case of Mor'du though

Recon

December 17, 2018 @ 05:32 amOffline

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I feel like Sora is a strong emotional character, that it would take a lot to make Sora cry. Maybe somebody is dead? shiiiiieeeet

kaseykockroach

December 17, 2018 @ 06:20 amOffline

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Recon
I feel like Sora is a strong emotional character, that it would take a lot to make Sora cry. Maybe somebody is dead? shiiiiieeeet

He’s crying because his game got leaked. Can you blame the lad?

DarkGrey Heroine

December 17, 2018 @ 06:38 amOffline

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kaseykockroach
He’s crying because his game got leaked. Can you blame the lad?


I'll take this explanation and fully embrace it

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