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Dengeki: Nomura discusses OST, MOM, Kingdom Hearts going on break

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Published on November 18, 2020 @ 04:06 am
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Kingdom Hearts series creator and director Tetsuya Nomura recently spoke with Denegki Online about Kingdom Hearts Melody of Memory including stories about its development, the release of the Kingdom Hearts III, II.8, Unchained χ & Union χ [Cross] Original Soundtrack, the lack of PS3 and PS Vita games in the series, and the upcoming break in releases until 2022.

Full translations will be coming soon, but for now you can read the highlights below:

  • Nomura didn't want Indieszero to just make a Theatrhythm version of Kingdom Hearts, but something that combined the action of Kingdom Hearts with the music to make the rhythm game

  • Nomura didn't want to have to add songs after the release through DLC so he asked that they could fit as many songs in as possible

  • Dark Road is not a project that was released with the future of the series in mind, but rather something that the UX team decided they wanted to do

  • There were no releases for the PS3 or Vita, but Nomura did have a vague idea about it. He was working on Final Fantasy Versus XIII, though, so nothing was ever really considered. Vita had high specs for a handheld console, so it was believed that it would be better to focus on a stationary console instead 

  • Developers have been announcing games for the PS5/Xbox Series X, but if Kingdom Hearts were to announce anything, it would be a late comer. Nothing has been announced for Kingdom Hearts on the newest console generation, though

  • Nomura asked Yoko Shimomura to compose Kingdom Hearts because of how easy it was to work with her when they were working on Parasite Eve together

  • Nomura learned from overseas staff that Shimomura is called "goddess" and he is called "papa" by fans

  • The song that left the greatest impact on Nomura has been "Hikari" by Hikaru Utada. When the song was finished, he listened to the song in the recording studio and the impact of the song was so much more greater when the song came through the high tech audio equipment. He still remembers the goosebumps he got when he heard it the first time

  • Now that Melody of Memory is out, they will be taking a break from new releases in the series

  • Nomura hopes to deliver good news during the 20th anniversary in 2022

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Chaser

November 18, 2020 @ 04:19 amOffline

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We’ve been spoiled with yearly releases for like a decade now, and three releases this year!, that having next year off just feels so.... empty.... ??

Ah well, they have big games to make and need the time to do so. It’ll all be worth it in the end ??

Oracle Spockanort

November 18, 2020 @ 04:19 amOffline

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I'm shocked that this has been up for 11 minutes and like none of you are like "oh my god KH on a break here comes the news drought"

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Idreamaboutcats

November 18, 2020 @ 04:25 amOffline

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This is actually somewhat good news for me. I just splurged on a new laptop and am thinking of giving it a ram upgrade, antimalware subscription, the works. I was tempted to splurge more money to buy a PS5, but with one of two game series I love down and out, I can resist the temptation better.

Oracle Spockanort

November 18, 2020 @ 04:38 amOffline

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Idreamaboutcats

This is actually somewhat good news for me. I just splurged on a new laptop and am thinking of giving it a ram upgrade, antimalware subscription, the works. I was tempted to splurge more money to buy a PS5, but with one of two game series I love down and out, I can resist the temptation better.


I feel that. I don't feel so inclined to rush out there to get a PS5 now knowing that KH isn't even close to being on it. By time it happens, there will hopefully be a PS5 revision and price drop.

The_Echo

November 18, 2020 @ 04:40 amOffline

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Oracle Spockanort

Nomura asked Yoko Shimomura to compose Kingdom Hearts because of how easy it was to work with her when they were working on Parasite Eve together

Where's the Parasite Eve Remake, Nomura
I'm waiting

Oracle Spockanort

November 18, 2020 @ 04:41 amOffline

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The_Echo

Where's the Parasite Eve Remake, Nomura
I'm waiting


#BringBackAya2021

Chaser

November 18, 2020 @ 04:56 amOffline

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It’s been quite impressive that they were able to remaster five old games, make seven hours of HD cutscenes for two other games, and build a 3 hour playable proof of concept before releasing, within the last two years, a massive and graphically detailed AAA game, 15 impeccable boss battles, and a long time fan requested musical game.

It’s a shame the series may be going dark for a bit but I’m sure there’ll be bits and pieces of light to guide us through, like the ultimania translation.

Also means that when they choose to reveal the next game, it’ll be further along in development and closer to release which is good.

Also I couldn’t believe Nomura would drop the Versus XIII name. He spoke the forbidden words ?

SweetYetSalty

November 18, 2020 @ 04:57 amOffline

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Truthfully, I was planning to take a break from KH after the release of the last KH3 Novel. I've been in KH mode non stop since 2018 and I need to recharge, think of some new crazy theories and such. I'll still likely be playing some Melody of Memory, KH3 Data Org, and Data Greeting on and off in 2021, but I'll likely be doing most of it by myself away from the community. And like Spockanort said, I don't need to rush to get a PS5. One less thing. Kingdom Hearts could use the drought to rest too.

A shame this likely means no DLC for MoM. So many songs weren't in the game that I was hoping for.

Darkspawn

November 18, 2020 @ 05:03 amOffline

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I’m hoping if the next KH won’t be announced until 2022, maybe we’ll see FFXVI come out sooner than expected and/or an official announcement (and maybe release?) for FFVII Part 2 sooner.

Also, if the next project is taking longer to develop, it should be able to take better advantage of the new gen tech. That’ll be helpful if we’re getting a game that has a significantly different graphic style compared to previous games.

bambii (aka foreteller)

November 18, 2020 @ 05:11 amOffline

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The bit about Dark Road is interesting. From what I can tell (using Google Translate lol) the gist of what he’s saying is that he had a rough idea of the story sitting in the backburner, but it’s really being driven by the Ux team now without much direct connection to mainline series developments.

What I can’t decipher is whether he’s implying the Dark Road story will only become relevant much later, or perhaps that it’s not very significant to the overall plot at all. The latter would be disappointing, as I would like to see DR in Unreal Engine cutscenes someday. This makes me question his overall gameplan with Ux/DR, given how the main series (i.e. KH3/ReMind/MoM) has largely ignored them and their lore/plot developments, with the exception of a few subtle nods and Easter eggs (and the Foretellers, whose story was told independently of the mobile games anyway).

Oracle Spockanort

November 18, 2020 @ 05:20 amOffline

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Zip

I’m hoping if the next KH won’t be announced until 2022, maybe we’ll see FFXVI come out sooner than expected and/or an official announcement (and maybe release?) for FFVII Part 2 sooner.

Also, if the next project is taking longer to develop, it should be able to take better advantage of the new gen tech. That’ll be helpful if we’re getting a game that has a significantly different graphic style compared to previous games.


The (possible) landscape of SE in 2021:

[LIST]
[*]Bravely Default II
[*]Final Fantasy 7 Remake next-gen port with Tifa story
[*]TWEWY
[*]NieR Replicant ver. 1.22474487139...
[*]New NieR project
[*]Probably another FFXIV expansion
[*]Surprise Parasite Eve late Q3/early Q4
[/LIST]

And we will receive updates on projects like Project Athia (targeting 2022/3), FFXVI (targeting early 2022), Avengers overhaul and move to F2P...

I'm probably wrong, though xD

Cumguardian69

November 18, 2020 @ 05:29 amOffline

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....

Now would be a PERFECT time to remaster Re:coded and Days...

Just saying...

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Xagzan

November 18, 2020 @ 05:38 amOffline

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Please please PLEASE OST Plus like FF7R is getting. There are at minimum 50+ tracks that were left off this one, at most around 80 by my count.

I NEED that Xigbar in Olympus track...

Zettaflare

November 18, 2020 @ 05:44 amOffline

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Yup, Yoko is certainly a Goddess :)

While I'm excited for the next game It's kind of nice to be on a break from major releases after KH3, Re:MIND and MoM. At least there is still Dark Road and Chi to give us new things to talk and speculate about

the red monster

November 18, 2020 @ 05:45 amOffline

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This might be a good thing. i have huge backlog and i couldn't really focus on it with all the kingdom hearts goodness we got lately.
plus 2021 is probably FFXVI year anyway.

SuperNova

November 18, 2020 @ 06:13 amOffline

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I take this as a good thing, I needed a break from all of the KH nonsense anyways, now is a good time to catch up on my backlog.

Clue.Less

November 18, 2020 @ 06:47 amOffline

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I love that we are all relieved ?

Darkspawn

November 18, 2020 @ 06:53 amOffline

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Oracle Spockanort

The (possible) landscape of SE in 2021:

[LIST]
[*]Bravely Default II
[*]Final Fantasy 7 Remake next-gen port with Tifa story
[*]TWEWY
[*]NieR Replicant ver. 1.22474487139...
[*]New NieR project
[*]Probably another FFXIV expansion
[*]Surprise Parasite Eve late Q3/early Q4
[/LIST]

And we will receive updates on projects like Project Athia (targeting 2022/3), FFXVI (targeting early 2022), Avengers overhaul and move to F2P...

I'm probably wrong, though xD


Sounds pretty spot on to me. A next gen port for FFVIIR makes a lot of sense. It’d be (relatively) easy to do at a time when other projects have been pushed back, it would help transition the Remake series to next gen, and it could explain why they haven’t bothered patching the game. Seems likely to be a matter of when than if. Gimme that Tifa story.

From other comments I’m seeing from the interview, it sounds like Nomura plans to really shake things up with the next installment. So I’m happy they’ll be taking their time to hopefully get it right.

MATGSY

November 18, 2020 @ 06:54 amOffline

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There were no releases for the PS3 or Vita, but Nomura did have a vague idea about it. He was working on Final Fantasy Versus XIII, though, so nothing was ever really considered. Vita had high specs for a handheld console, so it was believed that it would be better to focus on a stationary console instead



Kinda weird reason to omit the Vita. Like they could've just ported 1.5 & 2.5 if nothing else. Of course I say literally the same thing about Switch. :cautious:

rokudamia2

November 18, 2020 @ 07:00 amOffline

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MATGSY

Kinda weird reason to omit the Vita. Like they could've just ported 1.5 & 2.5 if nothing else. Of course I say literally the same thing about Switch. :cautious:


I recall an interview from around 2012 where nomura said he wasn't interested in the vita.

NoWay

November 18, 2020 @ 07:06 amOffline

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Still hoping for a KH3 Final Mix for PS5. I want a PS5 optimized version..

Cumguardian69

November 18, 2020 @ 07:31 amOffline

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No, lets not deal with 3 anymore...the ship has sailed years ago. Look to the future of KH, we just finished MoM and KHDR is going to be years of fresh content with a well paced, badass story that tells of the Dark Seeker's plight with the realm of light. And our good boy Sora will need rescuing in 2022 with KH: Unreality's release

GreyouTT

November 18, 2020 @ 07:43 amOffline

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Oracle Spockanort


There were no releases for the PS3 or Vita, but Nomura did have a vague idea about it. He was working on Final Fantasy Versus XIII, though, so nothing was ever really considered. Vita had high specs for a handheld console, so it was believed that it would be better to focus on a stationary console instead.


Yeah that figures. Makes me think we really might have gotten a PS3 game had Versus not taken so long.

Oracle Spockanort

Nomura learned from overseas staff that Shimomura is called "goddess" and he is called "papa" by fans.


THE JIG IS UP



Honestly I don't have a problem with a drought of news. The plot is in a good place, we still have UX/DR plot, and honestly the yearly releases was getting exhausting. I'll be excited to see what they have to show in 2022 and after they've taken their time with the next game. Plus we don't have to worry about engine shenanigans taking up a bunch of development and they can focus on the things we care about.

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horto12485

November 18, 2020 @ 07:48 amOffline

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Darn now Kingdom Hearts is taking a Break for 2021 and now we have to wait until 2022 for the next Kingdom Hearts Entry well everyone we're going to have to use our Brains and Thinking for what Great Ideas for the Next Kingdom Hearts Games (Storylines, Development for Characters and Disney Worlds for the Next Saga)

Katsagu

November 18, 2020 @ 09:42 amOffline

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I mean, if next year has Nier, BD2 and possibly FF XVI and now TWEWY 2, I'm fine with KH taking a break, SE already has a good output for me.

I'll miss KH hype though ?



Nomura didn't want to have to add songs after the release through DLC so he asked that they could fit as many songs in as possible



WELL THEY DIDN'T ADD ENOUGH KH3 SONGS!!!!

ShardofTruth

November 18, 2020 @ 10:49 amOffline

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So no new KH game next year, that's fine I guess. Even if they ruled out a song DLC for MoM from the start I still wished they were more party customization options to unlock instead.

Sephiroth0812

November 18, 2020 @ 11:16 amOffline

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I'm actually pretty fine with these news.

The whole modus operandi of releasing a KH game every year was somewhat stressful in multiple ways and I dare say it didn't do the overall quality much good.

Taking a break and possibly reassess everything related to the franchise in a more peaceful way might actually do wonders to whatever will come about in 2022 when the anniversary is nigh.

Not to mention there being still Dark Road and (at least for now) UX being around and considering the snail's pace of actual important updates arriving might actually fill the majority of 2021 with some smaller stuff.
2020 is as good as over anyways with only 1 1/2 months remaining.

Alpha Baymax

November 18, 2020 @ 11:17 amOffline

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A 358/2 Days Remake on the Vita would have been nice.

okhi12

November 18, 2020 @ 11:37 amOffline

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I'm glad they take a break. There's already several games in development I'm interested in for the PS5 but I don't want to buy the console in 1-2 years at the very least. A next gen KH game being announced too soon would make me want to buy one on impulse, only KH has that power over me. I'll also wait for a price drop next year before I get MoM, that will be enough to feed my KH hunger in 2021 anyway. That, UX/DR story updates and I still have to replay KH3 to get the PRO codes trophies.
They can take ther time to make sure the next KH game is as good as it can possibly be without having such a long developing time as KH3 did.

Squood!

November 18, 2020 @ 01:05 pmOffline

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Given that he's working toward getting the next game out in 2022, if the other interview implies, that year is gonna be a news blast.

SweetYetSalty

November 18, 2020 @ 01:45 pmOffline

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Katsagu

I'll miss KH hype though ?

Just think of all they hype it'll get after such a break. The KH community will explode when we get a 2022 trailer.

okhi12

I'm glad they take a break. There's already several games in development I'm interested in for the PS5 but I don't want to buy the console in 1-2 years at the very least. A next gen KH game being announced too soon would make me want to buy one on impulse, only KH has that power over me. I'll also wait for a price drop next year before I get MoM, that will be enough to feed my KH hunger in 2021 anyway. That, UX/DR story updates and I still have to replay KH3 to get the PRO codes trophies.
They can take ther time to make sure the next KH game is as good as it can possibly be without having such a long developing time as KH3 did.

Same. While I have many games on it now besides KH ones, I bought my PS4 mainly for KH3. I was that invested and KH is just that powerful. Trophy hunting during this time sounds good.

Alpha Baymax

November 18, 2020 @ 01:47 pmOffline

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Union Cross will finally finish for 2021. I'm expecting major plot revelations for a game that's been around for 6 years.

redcrown

November 18, 2020 @ 01:48 pmOffline

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I just hope whatever game might come out around 2022 will be available on the PS4. I like to wait a good 4+plus years before buying a new console since I'm a poor gamer, and more games would have come out on it to justify buying it for $300 or under.

Launchpad

November 18, 2020 @ 04:45 pmOffline

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The games that came out during their 'get-one-out-every-year-dad-gummit' phase were obviously rushed and contributed more and more to the worst design mistakes in the franchise. The command deck seemed like a band-aid for an undercooked system in and of itself-- Yeah, combos feel icky, barely any exploration, enemies don't seem to be reacting to much of anything and have no coded patterns... But look at all the sick shit you can do with commands! Thunder Surge! Fire Dash! This is variety!!

They very well may be going right into KH4, so if we see nothing for a long time, that's only a good thing. The hope is still alive for the next big KH game to be the best in the series.

Rydgea

November 18, 2020 @ 04:54 pmOffline

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Now you all have plenty of time to study and get good grades on your MoM tracks.

okhi12

November 18, 2020 @ 05:30 pmOffline

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Rydgea

Now you all have plenty of time to study and get good grades on your MoM tracks.

I read MoM as Mark of Mastery and it still makes sense, lol.

WaltK

November 18, 2020 @ 05:32 pmOffline

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“I never said there would be a new release for the 20th anniversary, I just said I hadn’t forgotten about it”.

Sign

November 18, 2020 @ 05:53 pmOffline

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I expect all of you to get the MoM platinum during this year off ?

MATGSY

November 18, 2020 @ 07:29 pmOffline

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Sign

I expect all of you to get the MoM platinum during this year off ?

Well maybe if Nintendo would finally implement a damn achievement system.

AdrianXXII

November 18, 2020 @ 07:58 pmOffline

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I'm feeling torn on one hand I'm fine with a year break on the other I kind of wish they had just taken this extra year to work on MoM a bit more to let us customize our parties and other simple small things, like multiple skins for characters.

Also surprised that Nomura is still taking a strong no DLC stance, figured things might change once the games been released.

Oracle Spockanort

Nomura hopes to deliver good news during the 20th anniversary in 2022

On another note this is the second time I've seen it worded like this. Does that mean there's going to be an announcement on the 20th anniversary or that we can expect a game for that year?

Oracle Spockanort

November 18, 2020 @ 08:02 pmOffline

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AdrianXXII
On another note this is the second time I've seen it worded like this. Does that mean there's going to be an announcement on the 20th anniversary or that we can expect a game for that year?


I think he’s been vague enough to make it hard to tell.

AdrianXXII

November 18, 2020 @ 08:05 pmOffline

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Oracle Spockanort

I think he’s been vague enough to make it hard to tell.

Fair wouldn't be Nomura, if it weren't ambiguous with room for trolling.

AegisXIII

November 18, 2020 @ 08:07 pmOffline

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I think going on a break is not that surprising. They finished their first main act (although I would argue that the first act was 1, com and 2) and now they are waiting for the next gen to get enough users before releasing their new game. A lot of devs are doing this right now. Either go cross-gen or wait 1-2 years that enough consoles are out there to make it worth the investment.

If you ask my opinion, 2022 will be the next big installment tied with a ps5 optimized compilation with some new features.

GreyouTT

November 18, 2020 @ 08:08 pmOffline

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AdrianXXII

I'm feeling torn on one hand I'm fine with a year break on the other I kind of wish they had just taken this extra year to work on MoM a bit more to let us customize our parties and other simple small things, like multiple skins for characters.

Also surprised that Nomura is still taking a strong no DLC stance, figured things might change once the games been released.


On another note this is the second time I've seen it worded like this. Does that mean there's going to be an announcement on the 20th anniversary or that we can expect a game for that year?


Announcement for a game that's 1-2 years out is the most likely thing. Less likely and more optimistic thing would be: Nomura had another team besides the MoM and Kh3 teams, and they've been working since 2019. So that's a good three years of development, and I doubt they had to spend a lot of time on the engine; which would mean a game close to finishing.

Xblade13

November 18, 2020 @ 09:14 pmOffline

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Oracle Spockanort

The (possible) landscape of SE in 2021:

[LIST]
[*]Bravely Default II
[*]Final Fantasy 7 Remake next-gen port with Tifa story
[*]TWEWY
[*]NieR Replicant ver. 1.22474487139...
[*]New NieR project
[*]Probably another FFXIV expansion
[*]Surprise Parasite Eve late Q3/early Q4
[/LIST]

And we will receive updates on projects like Project Athia (targeting 2022/3), FFXVI (targeting early 2022), Avengers overhaul and move to F2P...

I'm probably wrong, though xD

The Final Fantasy XIV expansion is highly likely, as the name "Forspoken" was trademarked by Square and is likely the name of said expansion, plus following the pattern of XIV expansions happening every two years since Heavensward, with the off years being post-exapnsion story updates and gameplay tweaks.

2 quid is good

November 18, 2020 @ 09:21 pmOffline

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Oracle Spockanort

I'm shocked that this has been up for 11 minutes and like none of you are like "oh my god KH on a break here comes the news drought"

Is a 1-2 year dry season even really a dry season? We've been through so much worse at this point

Absent

November 18, 2020 @ 09:27 pmOffline

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Hopefully they can do some rest and reflecting.

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KeyToDestiny

November 18, 2020 @ 09:32 pmOffline

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I don't mind since I'm very meh towards KH these days. Probably because of RL stuff and other interests. I only really came back to discuss about MoM because I do like rhythm games and I like the KH music. Then got roped into all the story discussion stuff and yeah. Basically, let the teams do their thing and take whatever time needed to make the products good enough for their fans without overworking themselves.

Oracle Spockanort

November 18, 2020 @ 09:34 pmOffline

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2 quid is good

Is a 1-2 year dry season even really a dry season? We've been through so much worse at this point


To me, no. It’s par for the course with Kingdom Hearts, but on Twitter there has been a lot of moaning about it.

bambii (aka foreteller)

November 18, 2020 @ 09:53 pmOffline

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GreyouTT

Announcement for a game that's 1-2 years out is the most likely thing. Less likely and more optimistic thing would be: Nomura had another team besides the MoM and Kh3 teams, and they've been working since 2019. So that's a good three years of development, and I doubt they had to spend a lot of time on the engine; which would mean a game close to finishing.


IIRC Nomura did indeed confirm back in January that there was one additional team already working on something new (he mentioned KH3, UX, and 2 other teams, one of which turned out to be working on MoM). But assuming they're going for a AAA next-gen title, I wonder whether 3 years is overly optimistic. Unless they're going for something a little less ambitious and cross-gen for 2022, and saving their big next-gen splash for the Osaka team.

Sakuraba Neku

November 18, 2020 @ 10:49 pmOffline

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I wouldn't worry about it, because it's not really "going on break" behind the scenes.

Remember the drought that was after KH2 release, with Nomura and KH team being too busy with Versus 13, and no other team available to make proper KH games?! Those were the darkest times. It's different nowadays. We have different KH teams and Nomura is already planning new announcements for 2022.

We may not have a 2021 KH game, but we have been spoiled enough with yearly releases. This year we got KH ReMind DLC, KH Dark Road and KH MoM. Even if you're like me and don't play the last two, we still have to recognize their efforts.

SuperSaiyanSora

November 18, 2020 @ 11:51 pmOffline

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KH YouTubers are gonna have to get creative. ? I kid, I kid... But I think a break would do everyone good. After KH3, MoM, Dark Road and UX... A breather is nice, that way when the next big title drops, we're all refreshed and ready to be excited again. Remember the last time we all felt genuinely excited? Not "I'm cautiously optimistic/hyped with baited breath" excited, but actual scream-into-the-void hyped? I miss that. So I'm cool with a break.

And I mean, UX and DR will keep people fed here and there throughout the year. Not to mention, I'm sure there'll probably be some interview from Nomura within 2021 that'll get people a little excited as per usual. So it's definitely not going to be like how it was post-KH3D where the only thing we had was the Chi Browser story updates. Now that was a drought.

SweetYetSalty

November 18, 2020 @ 11:59 pmOffline

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SuperSaiyanSora

KH YouTubers are gonna have to get creative. ? I kid, I kid... But I think a break would do everyone good. After KH3, MoM, Dark Road and UX... A breather is nice, that way when the next big title drops, we're all refreshed and ready to be excited again. Remember the last time we all felt genuinely excited? Not "I'm cautiously optimistic/hyped with baited breath" excited, but actual scream-into-the-void hyped? I miss that. So I'm cool with a break.

And I mean, UX and DR will keep people fed here and there throughout the year. Not to mention, I'm sure there'll probably be some interview from Nomura within 2021 that'll get people a little excited as per usual. So it's definitely not going to be like how it was post-KH3D where the only thing we had was the Chi Browser story updates. Now that was a drought.

Well the KH Youtubers could always do special challenges with KH3 Pro Codes and MoM related challenges. There is enough to keep them going for 2021. But a break is good for everyone. But yeah, I don't think the droughts will ever reach the post KH3D levels again... hopefully not.

SuperSaiyanSora

November 19, 2020 @ 12:16 amOffline

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SweetYetSalty

Well the KH Youtubers could always do special challenges with KH3 Pro Codes and MoM related challenges. There is enough to keep them going for 2021. But a break is good for everyone. But yeah, I don't think the droughts will ever reach the post KH3D levels again... hopefully not.


A lot of them tend to do KH3 Pro Code challenges, and with MoM having so many songs to burn through... I like to think Square gave us so much content with that in mind, knowing that it'll be a bit until the next title, so give people something to chew on for a year or so until then. Plus with the two mobile games still going, there's still a lot that can be done. So many of them should be able to get at least a good chunk of the year with content.

Any time people worry about a drought... I point them to the KH3D - KH Unchained X era. Or even KH2.8 if we're talking about a brand new console experience. We gained a lot of fans due to the 1.5 and 2.5 releases, but new story info? Oof. Only other drought that felt probably worse than that was KH2FM - BBS, because of how important and mysterious it was at the time. It's actually kinda funny how people love Days now, cause back in the day, people hated it lmao. Although KH1.5 turning it into a movie is pretty much responsible for why it's so loved now.

Oracle Spockanort

November 19, 2020 @ 12:30 amOffline

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SuperSaiyanSora

KH YouTubers are gonna have to get creative. ? I kid, I kid... But I think a break would do everyone good. After KH3, MoM, Dark Road and UX... A breather is nice, that way when the next big title drops, we're all refreshed and ready to be excited again. Remember the last time we all felt genuinely excited? Not "I'm cautiously optimistic/hyped with baited breath" excited, but actual scream-into-the-void hyped? I miss that. So I'm cool with a break.

And I mean, UX and DR will keep people fed here and there throughout the year. Not to mention, I'm sure there'll probably be some interview from Nomura within 2021 that'll get people a little excited as per usual. So it's definitely not going to be like how it was post-KH3D where the only thing we had was the Chi Browser story updates. Now that was a drought.


I think a lot of them have been branching out into other things anyways xD

GreyouTT

November 19, 2020 @ 12:37 amOffline

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IIRC Nomura did indeed confirm back in January that there was one additional team already working on something new (he mentioned KH3, UX, and 2 other teams, one of which turned out to be working on MoM). But assuming they're going for a AAA next-gen title, I wonder whether 3 years is overly optimistic. Unless they're going for something a little less ambitious and cross-gen for 2022, and saving their big next-gen splash for the Osaka team.


My guess is the Osaka team split into two groups of different sizes after 3 went gold; one for the DLC and the other for pre-production of the next game. Then after ReMind, they went back into one again and went into full production.

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The Dead Skin

November 19, 2020 @ 12:52 amOffline

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But look at all the sick shit you can do with commands! Thunder Surge! Fire Dash! This is variety!!


You didn't use Mine Square?

SuperSaiyanSora
KH YouTubers are gonna have to get creative. ?


They'll be fine. KHTubers usually kill time by dogpiling randos on Twitter.

SuperNova

November 19, 2020 @ 01:52 amOffline

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I'm not worried about the KHTubers they have plenty of material to work with towards their next "_____ IS THE MOM" theories complete with visual glitches and random little details in KH3 that CLEARLY point towards the MOM.

kingofgame981

November 19, 2020 @ 02:44 amOffline

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I was excited when I read the summary news on Gematsu about the future of the series. And when I came back here for further detail news (like always), I felt sad to hear that KH will go on break. (lol)

But I understand if this must have happened. Here hoping for new wave of joyful news in the next 2 years to everyone.

Elysium

November 19, 2020 @ 04:36 amOffline

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I didn't really expect anything for KH in 2021, with the possible exception of the inevitable series re-release on PS5 (including the Re:Mind comment on disc). I planned to wait until at least next Fall to get the PS5 anyway, since the systems always have a few bugs they need to iron out when they're first released; hopefully it'll drop to $400 or less at some point in the next year or two. Probably the first game I'll need it for will be FFXVI. It'd be great if XVI surprised and came out in 2021, but I would never expect it that early.

2 quid is good

November 19, 2020 @ 10:11 amOffline

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To me, no. It’s par for the course with Kingdom Hearts, but on Twitter there has been a lot of moaning about it.

Every day I become more convinced that the KH fanbase on twitter consists of far newer fans than other places on the Internet. Nothing wrong inherently with that of course but it makes for interesting observations of the different trends present there and here

Alpha Baymax

November 19, 2020 @ 11:14 amOffline

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Also surprised that Nomura is still taking a strong no DLC stance, figured things might change once the games been released.


He'd have to negotiate with IndiesZero to finalise that and he already has his work cut out for himself as is.

2 quid is good

Every day I become more convinced that the KH fanbase on twitter consists of far newer fans than other places on the Internet. Nothing wrong inherently with that of course but it makes for interesting observations of the different trends present there and here


Twitter is a virtual sneeze, people unwillingly catch content through other peoples likes and comments. It's why brands market most often on Twitter.

AegisXIII

November 19, 2020 @ 11:18 amOffline

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In two years, the fanbase will be different. New people getting ps5 that are waiting to join the cult of Nomura.

KingMickeyMouse

November 19, 2020 @ 01:56 pmOffline

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We still have the KH3 manga which will be regularly releasing throughout the year.

(inb4 I’m the only person here who cares about the manga...)

Squood!

November 19, 2020 @ 05:07 pmOffline

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I vote we spend all of 2021 in regards to KH pretending it's 2003 complete with the website aesthetic.

Alpha Baymax

November 19, 2020 @ 05:16 pmOffline

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Blenderudit

In two years, the fanbase will be different. New people getting ps5 that are waiting to join the cult of Nomura.


They have it so easy. If we ignore the X games, they have the whole franchise under the roof of one system.

AegisXIII

November 19, 2020 @ 05:17 pmOffline

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Alpha Baymax

They have it so easy. If we ignore the X games, they have the whole franchise under the roof of one system.

Back in our time, we had to work all summer to buy a game boy advance, a nintendo DS, a PSP, a Nintendo 3DS.
Kids these days. They know nothing of true dedication towards a franchise.

Oracle Spockanort

November 19, 2020 @ 06:08 pmOffline

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KingMickeyMouse

We still have the KH3 manga which will be regularly releasing throughout the year.

(inb4 I’m the only person here who cares about the manga...)


The manga is great! Now if only they could publish Vol 2 so we can finally get it in the west sometime at the end of next year xD

NoWay

November 19, 2020 @ 06:17 pmOffline

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Blenderudit

Back in our time, we had to work all summer to buy a game boy advance, a nintendo DS, a PSP, a Nintendo 3DS.
Kids these days. They know nothing of true dedication towards a franchise.


I wasn’t even able to play BBS till 2015 when I first got a PS3 and 1.5 & later 2.5..

AdrianXXII

November 19, 2020 @ 08:18 pmOffline

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The manga is great! Now if only they could publish Vol 2 so we can finally get it in the west sometime at the end of next year xD

Personally I am waiting for the manga to appear on the European Comixology. Honestly even if there's no KH games announced or releasing next year there's still plenty of KH keep my attention and to drain my bank account.

AegisXIII

November 20, 2020 @ 06:50 amOffline

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NoWay

I wasn’t even able to play BBS till 2015 when I first got a PS3 and 1.5 & later 2.5..

And how did it feel playing it for the first time?

NoWay

November 20, 2020 @ 07:28 amOffline

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Blenderudit

And how did it feel playing it for the first time?

My first walkthrough was on critical mode. I literally thought “what could possibly go wrong? You’ve also played KH1 and 2 on critical mode”... And I hadn’t had quite understood how the command melding worked which wasn’t a big problem until I met Vanitas and Terranort. :LOL: I really had a hard time but I loved BBS especially everything that happened during KG as well as the Final and Secret Episode.
Nowadays I unfortunately feel like BBS didn’t age quite well although I love playing Aqua’s scenarios. I miss ReMind’s fast combat.

AegisXIII

November 20, 2020 @ 07:31 amOffline

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NoWay

My first walkthrough was on critical mode. I literally thought “what could possibly go wrong? You’ve also played KH1 and 2 on critical mode”... And I hadn’t had quite understood how the command melding worked which wasn’t a big problem until I met Vanitas and Terranort. :LOL: I really had a hard time but I loved BBS especially everything that happened during KG as well as the Final and Secret Episode.
Nowadays I unfortunately feel like BBS didn’t age quite well although I love playing Aqua’s scenarios. I miss ReMind’s fast combat.

Yes I agree. Of all the games, bbs feels the most outdated. And I think it mostly come to the fact that polygons are reduced and menus do not feel hd.

GreyouTT

November 20, 2020 @ 09:45 pmOffline

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I also played BbS for the first time on the PS3, for me it felt like a downgrade from Re:Coded when it came to everything related to commands and abilities. It was like "Why do I have to find a recipe item to know what melding makes?", compared to Re:Coded which tells you what the melding will make right from the get go. Plus while I didn't mind how abilities worked at the start, by the end I was wondering why they made it complicated and unclear what I get from melding. Again, compared to Re:Coded where abilities are unlocked through progression on the Stat Matrix and are clearly labelled.

Oracle Spockanort

November 20, 2020 @ 10:01 pmOffline

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GreyouTT

I also played BbS for the first time on the PS3, for me it felt like a downgrade from Re:Coded when it came to everything related to commands and abilities. It was like "Why do I have to find a recipe item to know what melding makes?", compared to Re:Coded which tells you what the melding will make right from the get go. Plus while I didn't mind how abilities worked at the start, by the end I was wondering why they made it complicated and unclear what I get from melding. Again, compared to Re:Coded where abilities are unlocked through progression on the Stat Matrix and are clearly labelled.


BBS was the predecessor to Re:coded’s command deck, so it benefitted from the lessons learned from that game. It sucks when you play things out of order so to speak, because you realize just how rough the previous game was.

SweetYetSalty

November 20, 2020 @ 10:45 pmOffline

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KingMickeyMouse

We still have the KH3 manga which will be regularly releasing throughout the year.

(inb4 I’m the only person here who cares about the manga...)

Oracle Spockanort

The manga is great! Now if only they could publish Vol 2 so we can finally get it in the west sometime at the end of next year xD

The KH Manga franchise is like my favorite part of the franchise. Can't wait to see their take on KH3 with it's ongoing releases.

NoWay

My first walkthrough was on critical mode. I literally thought “what could possibly go wrong? You’ve also played KH1 and 2 on critical mode”... And I hadn’t had quite understood how the command melding worked which wasn’t a big problem until I met Vanitas and Terranort. :LOL: I really had a hard time but I loved BBS especially everything that happened during KG as well as the Final and Secret Episode.
Nowadays I unfortunately feel like BBS didn’t age quite well although I love playing Aqua’s scenarios. I miss ReMind’s fast combat.

LOL, that sounds like my first playthrough of BBS. I started on Critical Mode too, thinking it wouldn't be so bad. Oh to be young again. Did you start with Aqua too?

kingofgame981

November 21, 2020 @ 07:38 amOffline

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I didn't really expect anything for KH in 2021, with the possible exception of the inevitable series re-release on PS5 (including the Re:Mind comment on disc). I planned to wait until at least next Fall to get the PS5 anyway, since the systems always have a few bugs they need to iron out when they're first released; hopefully it'll drop to $400 or less at some point in the next year or two. Probably the first game I'll need it for will be FFXVI. It'd be great if XVI surprised and came out in 2021, but I would never expect it that early.

I agree. Being able to endure with the long await of KH3 released day back then has made me less focusing on each day for news (compare to when the trio 358/2 Days, BBS and coded being announced. I miss those days of joyful and flood of news)

Violet Pluto

November 21, 2020 @ 11:45 amOffline

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The_Echo

Where's the Parasite Eve Remake, Nomura
I'm waiting

Seeing how Square treated the series after T̴̲̹̭̖́̕h̵͓̥̹̔̃̈́͝ȉ̸̻̞̋̑͐r̶͓̠̻̮̉d̴̨̳́́͒ ̶̢͚̥͍̋B̴̡̦̦̌̄̀͠i̶̟͙͗r̶͉͖͒͑t̴̨̙̾̽ḩ̶̹̹̆d̸͕̈́a̸̝͈̮̔y̷͓͍̺̍̃͌ I don't think that's too likely right now.

Oracle Spockanort

November 22, 2020 @ 02:44 amOffline

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Violet Pluto

Seeing how Square treated the series after T̴̲̹̭̖́̕h̵͓̥̹̔̃̈́͝ȉ̸̻̞̋̑͐r̶͓̠̻̮̉d̴̨̳́́͒ ̶̢͚̥͍̋B̴̡̦̦̌̄̀͠i̶̟͙͗r̶͉͖͒͑t̴̨̙̾̽ḩ̶̹̹̆d̸͕̈́a̸̝͈̮̔y̷͓͍̺̍̃͌ I don't think that's too likely right now.


Tabata is gone so perhaps PE has hope now.

The_Echo

November 22, 2020 @ 03:00 amOffline

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Oracle Spockanort

Tabata is gone so perhaps PE has hope now.

Gotta make sure Motomu Toriyama is nowhere near the project as well

Face My Fears

November 22, 2020 @ 06:49 amOffline

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I think it's good that the series is going on a break for a while. It's been on a roll since 2017 where we started to actually see KH3 become a reality with the trailers. They've given us enough to chew on regarding Phase 2 for a year and as much as I love the series, I was starting to feel overwhelmed. I thought after ReMIND came out, I would have a chance to replay all the games with the story set for a while, but then Dark Road and MoM were announced so it was more story to keep up with.

Also, I think Nomura deserves a little break from KH. Especially after KH3 was released and the vitriol dumped on him for almost 2 years. He should take a year off and just personally celebrate that he created this multi-game/multi-decade spanning franchise. I don't think there's many people in the video game industry that can say they helmed a franchise for its entirety - a franchise that had one consistent plot.

Chaser

November 22, 2020 @ 07:52 amOffline

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It would be nice if they got some time off, but they're just taking a break from giving updates and announcements for the games. They're working hard on the next titles, and will continue to do so throughout 2021; they just won't talk about it until 2022.

Nomura seems like a work-a-holic, especially with FFVIIR2 under his belt, so I don't think he'll be taking any substantial time off soon.

Sign

November 22, 2020 @ 04:35 pmOffline

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Face My Fears

Also, I think Nomura deserves a little break from KH. Especially after KH3 was released and the vitriol dumped on him for almost 2 years. He should take a year off and just personally celebrate that he created this multi-game/multi-decade spanning franchise. I don't think there's many people in the video game industry that can say they helmed a franchise for its entirety - a franchise that had one consistent plot.

Nomura doesn't give two shits what people on the internet say, and he's gotten far worse from the FF fanbase.

He also uh... isn't taking this time off. They won't be sharing any news but the work continues behind the scenes. He's still writing new stories and contributing to the 2 mystery KH games still in development, as well as the ongoing UXDR.

KH is his baby. Prior to the Versus debacle, he was entirely prepared to leave FF behind and only contribute character designs/artwork while he focuses on KH full time. This series isn't just another responsibility to him.

SuperSaiyanSora

November 22, 2020 @ 06:38 pmOffline

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Sign

Nomura doesn't give two shits what people on the internet say, and he's gotten far worse from the FF fanbase.

He also uh... isn't taking this time off. They won't be sharing any news but the work continues behind the scenes. He's still writing new stories and contributing to the 2 mystery KH games still in development, as well as the ongoing UXDR.

KH is his baby. Prior to the Versus debacle, he was entirely prepared to leave FF behind and only contribute character designs/artwork while he focuses on KH full time. This series isn't just another responsibility to him.


Yeah, I doubt Nomura at the core of it cares honestly, because more people love what he's done than the people that don't. Loud minority, but if people really thought the games he made were terrible, KH3, ReMind, MoM (might be too early to tell though, plus, rhythm game lmao) and FF7R Part 1 would all be flops. The sales are nice, the reviews are high and most fans love the games, so that's really all that matters.

People also should remember that 7R Part 2 is in full development, so he's going to be involved with that as well. And there's the TWEWY anime and whatever else that countdown is going to end up being. That's not even tossing in the potential Disney Plus series that may or may not exist, because you know he's gonna be involved with that in some way. So he's definitely not taking a break next year.

Nomura's one of those guys that has the work-ethic that allows him to be as busy as he is. When you're that passionate about what you do, it happens, so he might be the kind of person that's not comfortable with doing nothing for too long. It's admirable, but I do hope the guy takes the rest he needs when he gets the chance to.

Violet Pluto

November 23, 2020 @ 12:27 pmOffline

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Oracle Spockanort

Tabata is gone so perhaps PE has hope now.

Sadly that isn't the problem that I see. If they do make a new one, they will probably either:
Reboot (which isn't my preferred) or ignore TB (Best case).
Third birthday is such a stain to them that SE has basically done all they can to make sure no one can see the ending without jumping through massive hoops. Hopefully they will ignore their misgivings and do something good with the series again.

Sign

November 23, 2020 @ 03:50 pmOffline

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KH is taking a break because 2021 is the year of TWEWY ?

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