I'm thinking the reason for the end of the unbirths and the rise of heartless and nobodies have something to do with the story Kairi's grandma told her about the rise of darkness and the hidden light within (dark/light balance). Second, if theories on Terra are true, it could be Terra=heartless, Ventus=nobodies, Aqua=unbirths. My guess is the creation of an unbirth happens during the creation of a person. Also, unbirths are more like animals. Any ideas?
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What? I don't get what you're saying with the Terra=.....
Well because Terra is supposed to become Xehanort, Ansems apprentice, who created(or unleashed) heartless. And Ven for some reason resembles Sora's nobody(and his body was frozen). Aqua seems to have disappeared because of the armor left behind in the room of sleep. I don't know, just something I realized, kind of far out there.
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I never thought of that before, but how do you actually fit the unbirths in?
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No, because heartless and nobodies weren't around back then.
But maybe they somehow created heartless and nobodies:31:
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Doubtful, what would the motivation be?
I don't know, but I just can't help thinking that they have something to do with it.... that's kind of why I just put that out there for other people to put the pieces together
Do you mean Terra Ven and Aqua? Well if Terra really accepted darkness in the end and he lost his memory, he would have waken up obsessed to know more. Here he is with this mysterious past and he is apprenticed to someone who studies and experiments with darkness, I would think he delves deeper and creates(or unleashes) heartless. I'm pretty sure that it is said somewhere in the game, too. And maybe Ven was trapped in his body and he did something to escape, creating nobodies? Just a guess...
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You don't create nobodies, once a heartless is made they are just made.
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Yes, you said because of somthing Ven did nobodies were created.
I know. I'm not talking about creating "A" nobody, I mean he might have created the "CREATION" of nobodies. Like before a strong heart wouldn't leave behind a shell, until something happened (or maybe somebody did something) to Ven that changed that. Maybe Aqua had something to do with it? Because she uses magic and she disappeared. How she looked into Ven's eyes... maybe a sacrifice? I don't know, maybe you have an idea?
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That makes no sense. Where would have the body, and soul gone then?
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I don't get what you're saying. creating the creation of nobodies?
They might not have taken a form, as with a weak heart, it just disappears.
It sounded better in my head, but in BBS, there are no nobodies. If somebody died, their body would disappear, even if they had a strong heart. Somewhere along the line, it came to be that if someone with a strong enough heart died, a nobody would be created. I was just thinking Ven had something to do with it.
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It wasn't if they died, it was if they were turned into a heartless. There was no heartless, so there was no effect of creating nobodies, it wasn't because someone didn't create nobodies yet.
Hmmmmm........ if nobodies were made after heartless. I can't let go of the idea of TVA being responsible....
EDIT: Okay sry i get it now. Hmmm.... do you have a theory? I just really want to understand unbirths- and BBS.
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with all this confusion my theory for the unbirths is maybe they're beings that never got the chance to be born
that makes sense
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