- Oct 17, 2015
I couldn't really see Demyx as a vessel but I really want to see his somebody in kh3.
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eh. nomura's "favourite member" changes like every interview lol.
Given the chess piece reveal, Luxord is almost completely confirmed already - which is great 'cause he was a lot of fun and I'd like to see more of him. Marluxia is also probably in, if only because he was fairly powerful (and because they're being "overwritten", it's not like his betrayal matters). Plus, we have Marluxia themed Nobodies which could be a pretty big hint.
Weakness of trust would've ultimately derailed the Org's greater goals, so those particular members died for their treachery. I think that was the issue there. Can't really use someone as a vessel if they're dead, y'know?Seemed to matter when Xemnas listed off weakness of trust.
Conversely, as BlackOsprey pointed out, you'd think that "actively against your all of your goals" would be worse than "betraying you, but really obviously".Seemed to matter when Xemnas listed off weakness of trust.
Ok. I'm a little confused about all of this a bit. Please correct me if I'm wrong about any of this. The purpose of the Organization is to fill all the members with Xehanort's heart so that they can all act as the 13 darknesses needed to form the X-blade right? And we know from the rules of time travel in KH that you leave your body behind when you time travel right? So only your heart can time travel. And the various forms of Xehanort in KH3D have clearly said that their looking for "empty husks" to fill with Xehanort's heart. So why are we all theorizing all sorts of people being in the new Organization? Isn't the new Organization a bunch of Xehanorts (in whatever form) that are inside other people's bodies? What I mean is, don't the bodies that make up the new Organization have to be of people that currently exist because bodies cannot time travel? That being said, during the events of KH3D whose body is Ansem in? Whose body is Xemnas in? Whose body is Young Xehanort in? And are we assuming that Ansem, Xemnas, and Young Xehanort took over those bodies so completely that they look like Ansem, Xemnas, and Young Xehanort? I can't make any of this make sense to me.
you gain the ability to transcend time once your heart leaves the body and you never lose it, so none of the time traveling characters are existences of only a heart aside from brownrobed Xehanort
Xion doesn't make any sense, she'd have to have become a vessel before she joined with Sora, since you can't alter things in time travel.
like i think we are meant to take kh3d as xehanort's attempt to get hero-ish characters on his side and it had to happen in the present and that's it. that's the only attempt he will make.
I find it very unlikely that a Disney or FF villain becomes a seeker of darkness/true org member/Xeha-disco-clone-gang, since Nomura tends to separate the three(+) universes somewhat.
No I know what you meant. But, a person who time travels must return to their original time and they cannot alter the path of fate. It can be implied then that they return the way they came. Making her a vessel is definitely altering her path of fate.Sorry, I didn't explain myself well. When I said using time travel - I meant YX would have to collect the Xion from before she merged with Roxas/Sora; probably from when she was first created, so that she wouldn't really have the will to resist. Although, I'm not too confident on my KH time travel logic, I believe this implies that Xion must have had a part of Xehanort inside her since the beginning... which could make sense - since Sora has been confused for Xehanort at least once (i.e. Lingering Will).