Cartoon/TV ► WandaVision

[Roxas_Falcon04_#13]

Personally, I like the weekly format in some instances, because I can speculate with other people about what will happen in next week's episode without avoiding being spoiled and also because I'm not always going to be able to just drop what I'm doing to binge watch the entire season of a new show. Although I prefer binge watching in most situations, simply because it feels like I'm watching one long movie and because that way it feels like a cohesive plot instead of just small things happening in one episode and having to wait until the next episode to find out what is happening. It also depends on the length of the season. For instance, I think the weekly format works better for shows that have longer seasons of 13+ episodes (just about any major network show). With shows that have shorter seasons of 10 episodes or less (The Mandalorian, WandaVision, just about any Netflix original series as well), binge watching would be much better. I didn't like having to wait a week for new episodes of the Mandalorian and I don't like doing it now either with WandaVision, yet I still do it to avoid spoilers and to speculate with my friends who are also fans of these shows. If I didn't care about spoilers or speculating with other fans, then by all means, I would wait until all episodes are available and watch the entire season in one day. Ultimately though, the real reason Disney+ is doing this is so that people will stay subscribed so they can get more money, but I don't care very much, because the weekly format doesn't take away from the overall quality of the shows. The Mandalorian is the best Star Wars stories in a while and I am enjoying WandaVision so far. They are good shows, so as long as the quality of these shows does not begin to drop, I think the price of admission and the weekly wait is worth it.

 

[Luminary]

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That “recast” though! I’m interested to see where they take that. Is he plucked from the Fox universe? (Doubt it will be that literal.) Is he really Mephisto messing with Wanda? Or just another random person her subconscious turned into Pietro?

Also, I’m weirdly suspicious of the mailman and thought it was funny how they referenced her not having her Scarlet Witch moniker yet. Which means it’s coming.

 

[MATGSY]

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That “recast” though! I’m interested to see where they take that. Is he plucked from the Fox universe? (Doubt it will be that literal.) Is he really Mephisto messing with Wanda? Or just another random person her subconscious turned into Pietro?

Also, I’m weirdly suspicious of the mailman and thought it was funny how they referenced her not having her Scarlet Witch moniker yet. Which means it’s coming.

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I find it interesting that when they went over her backstory, they made such a point that she didn't have an alias & stated her parents' names, which were things the films kinda brushed over. Like they were purposefully calling attention to the fact her MCU origins are different from her comic counterpart. & that they do this in the same episode where they bring in Xmenverse Quicksilver. That lends towards multi-verse connections.

On the other hand, he wasn't actually called Pietro in the XMen films, but "Peter Maximoff" but he's definitely Pietro here, suggesting that's in fact not the same one & just a meta-casting gag.

What's Lagos? This week's ad escaped me. EDIT: Oh, it was the city at the begining of Civil War, ok.

 

[AdrianXXII]

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Wow what an episode. So apparently Wanda's agony is being broadcast to all the people in the Hex, which explains why they know she's involved in it.

Tommy and Billy are interesting, they seem to be seperate from the rest of the town and more aware. Still they are pushing their mom to break the rules and resurrect the dead. While that could be them being kids having to deal with death for the first time i wouldn't be surprised of ot was a nudge like for the children.
Another thing I'm fascinated by is the fact that they seem to have the same powers. They both can age and ward off Wanda's magic. I feel like their more distinct powers will manifest next episode.

Wanda herself has become a enigma. So she wasn't aware in the beginning (or maybe she's just telling Vision that) but has grown so attached to this new reality that she can't let go. She can influence this bubble, but isn't in complete control (Dog & Pietro). However she can come and go as she wants.

Also what SWORD did to Vision is horrible no wonder Wanda is in so much more pain. It's funny how the acting Director criticized wanda for reviving him, while dissecting and analysing him himself.

I like Monica's insight and think her symaphising with Wanda, shows that even though Wanda's influence was painful, she didn't feel like there was malice in it.

Can't wait to see where this goes, it's been an exciting ride!

 

[Oracle Spockanort]

I had free time during my lunch break to watch and holy shit.

I think Wanda has absolutely cracked the multiverse and probably pulled Fox’s Quicksilver into it as he would be the closest adjacent to her Pietro.

The boys are an anomaly, which means either Wanda has created them from something (Mephisto’s soul) or has pulled them from another reality. Nothing in her bubble exists from nothing. Everything is changed from something existing within that town or is brought in.

 

[Absent]

I just wanna warn people that there’s leaks online about episode 6. There’s also a leaked Funko toy that includes spoilers about next episode too. Be careful.

 

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[KingdomKurdistan]

Inside WestView that was possibly the best episode yet.

But the stuff outside is just so poor in comparison. Like an afterthought. That scene when where Wanda comes out to play was outstanding though. And Monica is great.

 

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Omg, the same thing happened with the Mandalorian! They spoiled the Dark Troopers before they were even fully shown.

 

[Oracle Spockanort]

Inside WestView that was possibly the best episode yet.

But the stuff outside is just so poor in comparison. Like an afterthought. That scene when where Wanda comes out to play was outstanding though. And Monica is great.

It’s because the boss is really lame. He ruins every scene he’s in haha

Monica being juxtaposed as the main character in parallel to Wanda is fantastic.

also she has beef over her favorite aunt and I need to know what went down and why she’s dodging any topic about Carol.

I s2g Carol had better been there when Maria died in between traveling space or I’ll be bitter.

 

[Face My Fears]

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OMG!!! The show is finally picking up!

I am so shocked and happy to see the X-Men Quicksilver in the MCU! My question is... what exactly is he? Everything inside The Hex is real - even if it's just a corpse (like Vision). Was he someone in WestView that she just recast as Pietro? That can't be it because she seemed to be telling the truth about not having him ring the doorbell.

My theory is that "Peter Maximoff" exists in the MCU, but as someone else (the guy that was at the door). The same way J. Jonah Jameson is in the MCU, but completely different from the original Spiderman films.

OR Agnes is Mephisto or someone else and is trying to see how powerful Wanda is. The way she asked if Wanda could bring people back from the dead was interesting.

The way they went over Wanda's backstory and powers means that it must be something relevant. I just found it kind of annoying how they got it wrong, even when they had the chance to explain it. They say that she has telepathic and telekinetic powers, but then go on to say that she's warping reality and had the power to kill Thanos. Like which is it? I also hate that they made her so OP with that "she could kill Thanos" line drop. It also annoys me because she's not telepathic in the comics and never showed any signs of being a telepath in prior films. If she really was one, she could have used that power on Thanos during their fight.

 

[AdrianXXII]

The way they went over Wanda's backstory and powers means that it must be something relevant. I just found it kind of annoying how they got it wrong, even when they had the chance to explain it. They say that she has telepathic and telekinetic powers, but then go on to say that she's warping reality and had the power to kill Thanos. Like which is it? I also hate that they made her so OP with that "she could kill Thanos" line drop. It also annoys me because she's not telepathic in the comics and never showed any signs of being a telepath in prior films. If she really was one, she could have used that power on Thanos during their fight.

I hate to be the "Well actually guy", but when she first debuted in Age of Ultron her main focus was her mind manipulation and reading. She didn't use that power much afterwards, but it's a well established part of her powerset. At the moment no-one, but the audience is aware that she is using untamed magic for all of this, so they think she's using telepathy and telekinesis.

 

[Face My Fears]

I hate to be the "Well actually guy", but when she first debuted in Age of Ultron her main focus was her mind manipulation and reading. She didn't use that power much afterwards, but it's a well established part of her powerset. At the moment no-one, but the audience is aware that she is using untamed magic for all of this, so they think she's using telepathy and telekinesis.

Oops, I haven't seen Age of Ultron since it was in cinemas because I thought it was horrible. I forgot all about that. Thanks for the reminder.

 

[Luminary]

Next week should be the Halloween episode. Which means we’ll finally see the scene from the trailer where Vision wakes up Agnes. Hoping that means we’ll get some answers about her character.

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That moment still throws me off a bit of how much Agnes could be manipulating things if she’s under the influence of the hex. That said, it at least seems like coming out of the hex doesn’t affect her emotionally the way it does everyone else as she’s pretty composed about it in the trailer.

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OMG!!! The show is finally picking up!

I am so shocked and happy to see the X-Men Quicksilver in the MCU! My question is... what exactly is he? Everything inside The Hex is real - even if it's just a corpse (like Vision). Was he someone in WestView that she just recast as Pietro? That can't be it because she seemed to be telling the truth about not having him ring the doorbell.

My theory is that "Peter Maximoff" exists in the MCU, but as someone else (the guy that was at the door). The same way J. Jonah Jameson is in the MCU, but completely different from the original Spiderman films.

OR Agnes is Mephisto or someone else and is trying to see how powerful Wanda is. The way she asked if Wanda could bring people back from the dead was interesting.

The way they went over Wanda's backstory and powers means that it must be something relevant. I just found it kind of annoying how they got it wrong, even when they had the chance to explain it. They say that she has telepathic and telekinetic powers, but then go on to say that she's warping reality and had the power to kill Thanos. Like which is it? I also hate that they made her so OP with that "she could kill Thanos" line drop. It also annoys me because she's not telepathic in the comics and never showed any signs of being a telepath in prior films. If she really was one, she could have used that power on Thanos during their fight.

That line drop didn’t make her OP. That was a direct reference to the power she displayed in Endgame where she absolutely would have killed Thanos had he not told Ebony Maw to reign fire down on the battlefield. She was about to rip him apart, but couldn’t keep her focus with missiles coming down on her.

And yeah the mind control was used in Age of Ultron and to a lesser extent in Civil War when she brought Vision to his knees. So it isn’t a question of which is it. She can do all those things. The reality warping is certainly an evolution of the powers we’ve seen before, but it’s definitely rooted in the comics.

I’m hoping you’re right about Quicksilver being “the same, but not” as his Fox counterpart. And I hope they use this to retroactively explain Jameson’s appearance in Far From Home. I’m thinking the multiverse has been cracked open and characters from non-MCU films will have the potential to pop up. Just like when people enter Wanda’s bubble though, they’ll be changed to fit into the MCU. It’s still too early to tell if he’s truly an AU Quicksilver, but I think Billy or someone else may have pulled him from the multiverse after Wanda told the kids about him being far away rather than dead.

Monica being juxtaposed as the main character in parallel to Wanda is fantastic.

Agreed. She’s the heroic lead of the show right now with Wanda currently being the villain. Also, her scans coming out as just white light make me think she may already be developing her powers.

 

[Face My Fears]

Next week should be the Halloween episode. Which means we’ll finally see the scene from the trailer where Vision wakes up Agnes. Hoping that means we’ll get some answers about her character.

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That moment still throws me off a bit of how much Agnes could be manipulating things if she’s under the influence of the hex. That said, it at least seems like coming out of the hex doesn’t affect her emotionally the way it does everyone else as she’s pretty composed about it in the trailer.

That line drop didn’t make her OP. That was a direct reference to the power she displayed in Endgame where she absolutely would have killed Thanos had he not told Ebony Maw to reign fire down on the battlefield. She was about to rip him apart, but couldn’t keep her focus with missiles coming down on her.

And yeah the mind control was used in Age of Ultron and to a lesser extent in Civil War when she brought Vision to his knees. So it isn’t a question of which is it. She can do all those things. The reality warping is certainly an evolution of the powers we’ve seen before, but it’s definitely rooted in the comics.

I’m hoping you’re right about Quicksilver being “the same, but not” as his Fox counterpart. And I hope they use this to retroactively explain Jameson’s appearance in Far From Home. I’m thinking the multiverse has been cracked open and characters from non-MCU films will have the potential to pop up. Just like when people enter Wanda’s bubble though, they’ll be changed to fit into the MCU. It’s still too early to tell if he’s truly an AU Quicksilver, but I think Billy or someone else may have pulled him from the multiverse after Wanda told the kids about him being far away rather than dead.



Agreed. She’s the heroic lead of the show right now with Wanda currently being the villain. Also, her scans coming out as just white light make me think she may already be developing her powers.

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I dunno. I still don't like the idea of a character being able to obliterate another with ease. If she were able to do it in EndGame, why didn't she do it in Infinity War? Having a character declared so powerful (like Captain Marvel and now apparently Wanda) tilts the balance of power in the world and asks you to suspend too much disbelief. If Wanda really could have torn Thanos apart, why wasn't the plan in Infinity War to clear the path for Wanda to target Thanos and do her thing? It's just not really good writing to have OP characters because it opens up questions to why didn't X do Y to solve Z.

The reality warping isn't the power I have a problem with. It's being a telepath since she is not one in the comics. But as it was pointed out to me earlier, she had those powers in Age of Ultron but were rarely used again. With the reality warping, I wonder if The Hex will be a reverse House of M incident where she creates mutants. Like you said about Monica's scans being white, that could be a sign that she's becoming a mutant.

Quicksilver showing up was clearly not Wanda's choice... which makes me think that it may have been done by Agnes or the children. If you think about it, they made such a big deal about how if it's from the time period, no changes will be made to whatever enters The Hex. Peter Maximoff is from the 80's in the X-Men timeline and he hasn't changed at all in WandaVision. I think they're going to open up the multiverse because of the way they were so specific on explaining who Wanda's parents were. If this Quicksilver mentions Erik Lensherr/Magneto, Wanda will have no idea who that is, but will confirm to us that the multiverse is real.

Or if Peter is really just like J. Jonah Jameson and the same person, but different backstory... then does that mean Magneto exists in the MCU? Now that X-Men are involved, I'm really invested in this show.

 

[Luminary]

I dunno. I still don't like the idea of a character being able to obliterate another with ease. If she were able to do it in EndGame, why didn't she do it in Infinity War? Having a character declared so powerful (like Captain Marvel and now apparently Wanda) tilts the balance of power in the world and asks you to suspend too much disbelief. If Wanda really could have torn Thanos apart, why wasn't the plan in Infinity War to clear the path for Wanda to target Thanos and do her thing? It's just not really good writing to have OP characters because it opens up questions to why didn't X do Y to solve Z.

In Infinity War, she was busy trying to destroy to render Thanos’ goal impossible to complete as she was the only one capable of destroying it. Thanos had the near full power of the Infinity Gauntlet when she faced him and she still was able to hold him back with one hand while simultaneously destroying the Mind Stone. After she destroyed it, she was understandably weakened, giving Thanos the chance to turn back time and get the stone.

Even though she has powerful abilities, she is still written with qualities that keep her grounded, such as her grief from the trauma she’s experienced and her focus on wanting a normal life with Vision. On the power level side of things. there’s also the fact that she’s a glass cannon. She has uber powerful abilities, but she can’t take a hit like others can.

In my opinion, the MCU has done a great job of having those kind of checks and balances for its highly powerful characters like Wanda and Thor. We haven’t seen it yet with Captain Marvel, but I have a feeling a certain mutant is on her way to change that.

I do agree with the rest of your post though. I’m incredibly excited at the possibilities going forward with the show and how it’ll impact the MCU at large.

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I think Reed Richards has a good chance of being the aerospace engineer Monica referred to. No one else I can think falls as neatly into that occupation as he does. And there’s supposed to be a major cameo down the line according to Elizabeth Olsen (assuming she wasn’t taking about Evan.) If John Krasinski shows up as Reed, I will pass out.

 

[Alpha Baymax]

Can Agent Woo be the Coulson of the Disney Plus shows please?

I want him to lead the Agents of Atlas. I don't care whether it's the classic team or the Asian team, Jimmy Woo is a cool character that has a lot of untapped potential.

 

[Face My Fears]

In Infinity War, she was busy trying to destroy to render Thanos’ goal impossible to complete as she was the only one capable of destroying it. Thanos had the near full power of the Infinity Gauntlet when she faced him and she still was able to hold him back with one hand while simultaneously destroying the Mind Stone. After she destroyed it, she was understandably weakened, giving Thanos the chance to turn back time and get the stone.

Even though she has powerful abilities, she is still written with qualities that keep her grounded, such as her grief from the trauma she’s experienced and her focus on wanting a normal life with Vision. On the power level side of things. there’s also the fact that she’s a glass cannon. She has uber powerful abilities, but she can’t take a hit like others can.

In my opinion, the MCU has done a great job of having those kind of checks and balances for its highly powerful characters like Wanda and Thor. We haven’t seen it yet with Captain Marvel, but I have a feeling a certain mutant is on her way to change that.

I do agree with the rest of your post though. I’m incredibly excited at the possibilities going forward with the show and how it’ll impact the MCU at large.

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I think Reed Richards has a good chance of being the aerospace engineer Monica referred to. No one else I can think falls as neatly into that occupation as he does. And there’s supposed to be a major cameo down the line according to Elizabeth Olsen (assuming she wasn’t taking about Evan.) If John Krasinski shows up as Reed, I will pass out.

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I thought the MCU did a great job balancing mega powerful characters as well. I liked seeing Iron Man and Thor fighting each other in Avengers and Iron Man actually having a chance. It's just my feeling on it, but I think with Wanda and Captain Marvel they're stepping too far into unbalancing things. Wanda was fine before WandaVision where they explained her powers more in-depth and verbally expressed how OP she is. I mean, reality warping, telepathy, telekinesis on the scale of an entire town is fine for a comic book, but for film (or a film universe) it has the potential to make that character seem too unbalanced for future fights. This is kind of ironic because I disliked how they kept her powers vague in the films and now that they explain them more, I don't like it.

It would be hilarious if Chris Evans does cameo, not as Captain America but Johnny Storm lol.

 

[Luminary]

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I thought the MCU did a great job balancing mega powerful characters as well. I liked seeing Iron Man and Thor fighting each other in Avengers and Iron Man actually having a chance. It's just my feeling on it, but I think with Wanda and Captain Marvel they're stepping too far into unbalancing things. Wanda was fine before WandaVision where they explained her powers more in-depth and verbally expressed how OP she is. I mean, reality warping, telepathy, telekinesis on the scale of an entire town is fine for a comic book, but for film (or a film universe) it has the potential to make that character seem too unbalanced for future fights. This is kind of ironic because I disliked how they kept her powers vague in the films and now that they explain them more, I don't like it.

It would be hilarious if Chris Evans does cameo, not as Captain America but Johnny Storm lol.

I think part of that is because they want to reiterate how powerful she is to show the threat level now that she’s become a villain of sorts. They want the audience to wonder how anyone is going to be able to stop Wanda. They didn’t change her power level simply by explaining the things we’ve already seen her do. As for future stuff, I trust Marvel to find a way to keep things balanced, whether by having her mainly face opponents of similar power level, nerfing her powers, or something else. They’ve done well so far with this stuff, so I’m not concerned until they give me a reason to be.

 

[AdrianXXII]

It also seems we've reached the point in the MCU where more and more powerful characters will be introduced such as Spectrum(Monica), the Fantastic Four and eventually the X-Men, we've already got pretty powerful characters like Doctor Strange and Captain Marvel, so I don't feel she's too overpowered in comparison.