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[Darkspawn]

How many more episodes are there?

I already told you, 9.

Just to clarify before you ask FMF, Chaser means there are 9 total. Not 9 more. So 3 left.

 

[Chaser]

Yes, sorry about that. Sleepy eyes missed the word “more”.

 

[Face My Fears]

Hmmmmmmmm I think it gave a lot more answers than might have been apparent on first viewing

Will post some thoughts on very interesting snippets tomorrow.

I'm anxiously awaiting your thoughts. I am very excited to read them because I feel like I missed something.

Just to clarify before you ask FMF, Chaser means there are 9 total. Not 9 more. So 3 left.

OK thanks!

 

[U.N. Owen]

I sort of want a Canadian-style PSA commercial. No one knows how to make unsettling PSA like Canadians.

 

[MATGSY]

Brainstorm: What if the episode is entirely animated like Simpsons/Family Guy?

 

[AdrianXXII]

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I'm still trying to figure out what the commercial is symbolizing so far each signified a chronological traumatic point in her life. With Lagos, we've reached Civil War, so I can't help feel that this one should be Infinity War. I think it's either her feeling she waited to long to use her magic to destroy the Infinity Stone which would have prevented Thanos from snapping half of life out of existence or her just giving up once he removed the stone.

 

[Chaser]

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I'm still trying to figure out what the commercial is symbolizing so far each signified a chronological traumatic point in her life. With Lagos, we've reached Civil War, so I can't help feel that this one should be Infinity War. I think it's either her feeling she waited to long to use her magic to destroy the Infinity Stone which would have prevented Thanos from snapping half of life out of existence or her just giving up once he removed the stone.

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I read an interesting theory that it's about present day Wanda. The boy is all alone and needs to survive and is given the item from the shark with the promise of a magic all, but in the end the boy is too weak to open it and dies. The theory says that Wanda, alone after her parents / brother / Vision have died, was offered something in exchange for something of hers. We know her powers are still incredibly strong so I don't think anything is sapping her, so I'm not sure what aspect the child's death could reflect.

Still, that's just a theory and there are countless other interpretations of what that commercial was all about.

 

[MATGSY]

A heads-up: Ep 7 has a mid-credits scene.

 

[Absent]

This episode was actually funny.

 

[Darkspawn]

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Agatha getting her own theme song was perfection. Kathryn Hahn is just absolutely nailing this role. I’d be totally fine if she’s the main threat for the rest of the show with maybe a tease of the Doctor Strange 2 villain near the end. Mephisto or Nightmare could still come into play.

Also, based on this commercial, we’ll probably find out about the Nexus that connects the Multiverses and Wanda may be the Nexus being of the MCU like she is for Earth-616 in the comics.

And that may have been the Darkhold in Agatha’s lair!

 

[Chaser]

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That ending was just what I needed.

 

[KingdomKurdistan]

I'm anxiously awaiting your thoughts. I am very excited to read them because I feel like I missed something.

OK thanks!

Heyy sorry for that! Life and work got in the way a bit and I forgot about this. I'll refrain from saying anything until I see today's episode in case it's already debunked and I look silly

 

[Oracle Spockanort]

Agatha's theme song is a mf bop

 

[AdrianXXII]

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This episode was really great. The ending with Agatha's theme song was just perfect, I've been listening to it quite a bit.

Alright so Agnes' awakening was indeed just a trick to get Vision to the boarder of the town. It was a clever trick on the writing staffs part to have Norm awake and say "You have to stop her" and then following it up with Agnes blaming it on Wanda. It's interesting that she's behind most things yet Wanda still seems to have quite a bit of control over this Town.

I assume the goal was the creation of the twins, but I don't quite understand what Agatha has planed for them or what she did to them. Part of me is scared that she turned one of them into the bug and the other into a Señor Scratchy double. If the theme song is to be believed she followed Wanda to the house before creating the whole Sitcom reality.

I wonder, if Agatha and Hayward are acting together or if they're perusing to separate plots. I'm more inclined to believe the second one, seeing Hayward is targeting the Vision and is willing to kill Wanda to get him and Agatha is interested in Wanda and her kids. But it would be odd, if they just happened to go after her at the same time.

The commercial was interesting, so they're going all in on Wanda being a Nexus. Presumably this is why Agatha went after her. Her being the Nexus also reinforces the idea that she might end up breaking the barrier of the multiverse. Part of me wonders, if that could actually end up rippling into the comic part of the multiverse.

"Pietro" is still a question mark. He didn't really act like Quicksilver, but he did have some of his memories and he looks like the X-Man counterpart Peter. He seems to have been under the influence of Agatha, but that doesn't mean he's her creation. I'm curious as to who he is, is he someone like Nightmare or Mephisto or is it possible he was pulled in from another universe and came under Agatha's control? I assume this should be addressed next week seeing Monica ended encountering him in the mid credits.

Talking about Monica, she's awesome! I really like how dedicated she is to helping Wanda. It seems the grieve she felt from Wanda really resonated with her She wants to help Wanda in the way she wished someone would probably help her wit her lose. The way the vehicle failed is interesting it seemed like they had planed for a lot of things, but this being magic means it's something she and her scientists aren't ready to deal with.

Yet still she powered through and broke through the barrier, gaining her powers in the process. I really loved the scene of her forcing her way through the barrier, holding on to herself as she's being pulled into all these versions of herself, yet coming out the other side with her sense of identity intact.
I honestly feel Monica would have broken through to Wanda had Agatha not stepped in.

All in all I'm really loving this show.

 

[Light’s Master]

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This episode was really great. The ending with Agatha's theme song was just perfect, I've been listening to it quite a bit.

Alright so Agnes' awakening was indeed just a trick to get Vision to the boarder of the town. It was a clever trick on the writing staffs part to have Norm awake and say "You have to stop her" and then following it up with Agnes blaming it on Wanda. It's interesting that she's behind most things yet Wanda still seems to have quite a bit of control over this Town.

I assume the goal was the creation of the twins, but I don't quite understand what Agatha has planed for them or what she did to them. Part of me is scared that she turned one of them into the bug and the other into a Señor Scratchy double. If the theme song is to be believed she followed Wanda to the house before creating the whole Sitcom reality.

I wonder, if Agatha and Hayward are acting together or if they're perusing to separate plots. I'm more inclined to believe the second one, seeing Hayward is targeting the Vision and is willing to kill Wanda to get him and Agatha is interested in Wanda and her kids. But it would be odd, if they just happened to go after her at the same time.

The commercial was interesting, so they're going all in on Wanda being a Nexus. Presumably this is why Agatha went after her. Her being the Nexus also reinforces the idea that she might end up breaking the barrier of the multiverse. Part of me wonders, if that could actually end up rippling into the comic part of the multiverse.

"Pietro" is still a question mark. He didn't really act like Quicksilver, but he did have some of his memories and he looks like the X-Man counterpart Peter. He seems to have been under the influence of Agatha, but that doesn't mean he's her creation. I'm curious as to who he is, is he someone like Nightmare or Mephisto or is it possible he was pulled in from another universe and came under Agatha's control? I assume this should be addressed next week seeing Monica ended encountering him in the mid credits.

Talking about Monica, she's awesome! I really like how dedicated she is to helping Wanda. It seems the grieve she felt from Wanda really resonated with her She wants to help Wanda in the way she wished someone would probably help her wit her lose. The way the vehicle failed is interesting it seemed like they had planed for a lot of things, but this being magic means it's something she and her scientists aren't ready to deal with.

Yet still she powered through and broke through the barrier, gaining her powers in the process. I really loved the scene of her forcing her way through the barrier, holding on to herself as she's being pulled into all these versions of herself, yet coming out the other side with her sense of identity intact.
I honestly feel Monica would have broken through to Wanda had Agatha not stepped in.

All in all I'm really loving this show.

this episode reminded me how much i hate waiting for weekly episodes and the finale 2 weeks after that because i dont want to wait and see what happens i want it to keep going!!! also the filming for the entire show is great switching from tv style to the mcu film style filming is absolutely aesthetically pleasing

 

[Oracle Spockanort]

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I'm leaning toward Quicksilver being Peter from the Fox-verse who was pulled into this universe by Wanda's wishes, but controlled by Agatha for her purposes. That would explain why he's so sus but looks like Peter and not Pietro.

Also I feel stupid but it was Agatha causing all of the distractions to keep Darcy and Vision away from Wanda.

Hayward and Agatha are probably doing their own things. Hayward wants a weapon to fight against invaders from space to prevent another Blip from happening.

Agatha seems like she has her own motive (probably in relation to Mephisto), but if she's evil or just a chaotic neutral party (similar to Loki), that remains unknown. I guess she could be evil since in the MCU the Skrulls are good...

 

[palizinhas]

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Agatha All Along is a really good song. That's my only opinion on the reveal

 

[AdrianXXII]

this episode reminded me how much i hate waiting for weekly episodes and the finale 2 weeks after that because i dont want to wait and see what happens i want it to keep going!!! also the filming for the entire show is great switching from tv style to the mcu film style filming is absolutely aesthetically pleasing

Haha I agree and disagree. I'm surprised how much I've actually like the spacing out of the episodes. For one the anticipation for the episodes feels really exciting and makes the episodes feel more impactful. I also like being able to digest the individual episodes and discuss them here.

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I'm leaning toward Quicksilver being Peter from the Fox-verse who was pulled into this universe by Wanda's wishes, but controlled by Agatha for her purposes. That would explain why he's so sus but looks like Peter and not Pietro.

Also I feel stupid but it was Agatha causing all of the distractions to keep Darcy and Vision away from Wanda.

Hayward and Agatha are probably doing their own things. Hayward wants a weapon to fight against invaders from space to prevent another Blip from happening.

Agatha seems like she has her own motive (probably in relation to Mephisto), but if she's evil or just a chaotic neutral party (similar to Loki), that remains unknown. I guess she could be evil since in the MCU the Skrulls are good...

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Yeah that's what my gut feeling says as well. It'd be too weird of a coincidence for her to have just randomly conjured up someone that looks like Peter or found someone that looks like him.

Well I mean up until the final reveal you could read it as Wanda wallowing in her misery causing her to subconsciously try and hold of her husband from comforting or confronting her.

I'd personally prefer her to be another chaotic neutral character, but it seems more likely that they'll make her an outright villain. At least she's a fun hammy one.

 

[KingdomKurdistan]

Has anyone seen Mulholland Drive? A coincidental Pietro recast that looks like Fox Peterbut doesn't actually mean anything but to play on audience perceptions is such David Lynch thing.

WandaVision is a Lynchian TV show that borrows from Twin Peaks and Mulholland Drive. People shouldn't be disappointed if it turns out to be "nothing". Because it isn't.

The scene below, one of the greatest in cinema history imo, is an example. Dreams, reality, the fuzzy line dividing them, and our own role as audiences are on display.

Not only does the character struggle to come to terms with the unreality of his existence, but we come to terms with our role in it and it's role in us. The fourth wall break here isn't to yank a character from x-men as a reality check for Wanda (and us) but to yank a character from his dreams ("I see him through the walls. He's the one who's doing it." Doing what, exactly? Is that man the director? Is he us?) as a reality check that he isn't actually real; that he's part of a movie (that's my own interpretation; others are available).

Now, I don't think people's fears that Peter won't be explained are founded. The show will almost certainly give an explanation (and it'll probably be weak and contrived). But if they didn't, it's not a sign of weak storytelling. There's a thematic and subtextual reason even if it doesn't serve the plot.

 

[Darkspawn]

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I'm leaning toward Quicksilver being Peter from the Fox-verse who was pulled into this universe by Wanda's wishes, but controlled by Agatha for her purposes. That would explain why he's so sus but looks like Peter and not Pietro.

Also I feel stupid but it was Agatha causing all of the distractions to keep Darcy and Vision away from Wanda.

Hayward and Agatha are probably doing their own things. Hayward wants a weapon to fight against invaders from space to prevent another Blip from happening.

Agatha seems like she has her own motive (probably in relation to Mephisto), but if she's evil or just a chaotic neutral party (similar to Loki), that remains unknown. I guess she could be evil since in the MCU the Skrulls are good...

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The way he delivered his line this episode gave me the same vibe as his portrayal of Peter in this Days of Future Past scene:

I’m probably looking too deep into a single line, but it definitely seems more like Peter than his performance of Pietro in the prior two episodes.
Even his outfit reminds me more of something Peter would wear in present day.

As for Hayward, it seems like there may be something to do with Ultron coming. The way Vision called attention to Ultron being part of him and Hayward trying to create sentient weapons is making me wonder if he might return in some way through whatever Hayward has or will build. Or maybe it’ll be sentinels or something.