Summary of Nomura Interview on KINGDOM HEARTS 3 & HD 2.8 FCP w/ Dengeki
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The latest issue of Dengeki Playstation, to be released tomorrow, contains an interview with Series Director Tetsuya Nomura on KINGDOM HEARTS HD 2.8 FCP and KINGDOM HEARTS 3. Zephyr has translated a brief summary of the interview, provided by blog.hokanko-alt.com.
It publishes an interview with director Tetsuya Nomura.
• In light of the remastered versions, it does not affect the progress of KINGDOM HEARTS III and the amount of staff falls into a good number.
• In 0.2, the worlds of Birth by Sleep have fallen into darkness and takes place during the timeline of its first work. In regards to the creation of new maps, they’ve had a difficult time balancing its volume/content. Continuing from the same areas wouldn’t be as interesting.
• The height-and-depth is one of the features that came from the map development team. Because of their strong teamwork, I have no worries about it.
• Even though some parts of the system may be fundamentally different in 0.2 and KH3, it’s become possible to experience a 'PS4 quality KH'.
• As for the lighting right now, we’ve wanted to present it without hurting the atmosphere, and we are receiving guidance from Visual Works and experimenting through trial and error. I think further improvements will be made in the future.
• There were trial and errors about the ‘Situation Command’ and how to display them so it doesn’t look like a simple QTE, etc.
• ‘Situation Commands’ are an evolution of KH2’s ‘Reaction Commands’ and they’ve become an integral part of KH3
• In 0.2, you immediately have access to top tier magic however I don’t think this is the case for KH3.
• The final trailer has been released with various characters, look forward to playing the game.
• We are unfamiliar with producing scenes in the next-gen engine and recreating all the character models were difficult.
• In KHBC, because the characters’ faces are hidden behind masks, we were mindful about their individualities.
• KHUx’s ’sin' is a keyword and I think experienced players might have also noticed.
• Since KH3D was a turning point for ‘Flowmotion’, KH3 began from there.
• I think a packaging illustration to connect KH1.5+2.5 will not be drawn.
• In KH3’s development, they are reworking all of the models but please be relieved to know it is progressing forward as well as the timing for the announcement of new information.
• We want to tie together information for the 15th anniversary for the KH series but it has not been decided yet.
• We want you to play 0.2 after seeing the secret movie of KHDDD. KHBC is not connected so you can enjoy viewing it anytime.
• As for KH2.8, the ‘Final Chapter Prologue’ in the title means that the story for KH3 has already begun.
Various topics were discussed.
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what do they they reworking the models?
what do they they reworking the models?
Literally they are reworking the models…
They've had problems with them and maybe they don't quite like the looks yet.
Literally they are reworking the models…
They've had problems with them and maybe they don't quite like the looks yet.
Finally...it was about time he said something to get us hyped :D
Finally...it was about time he said something to get us hyped :D
Speak for yourself~ I've been hyped the whole time :D
I am confused about this KHUX's sin though...what is he referring to?
At least people can rest easy that the Remixes have not affected....
What am I kidding, people still think that even when it's confirmed. The YouTube community is proof of that.
Sure, I've been hyped a lot lately too :D
I meant to say that since he didn't show any thing relevant at JF, this compensates :)
I am confused about this KHUX's sin though...what is he referring to?
The "Guilt" mechanics or "Special Attack Bonus", which is the official English translation.
I'm sad there won't be another artwork for the 1.5+2.5 cover.
| KHUx’s ’sin' is a keyword and I think experienced players might have also noticed. |
lol the second Ava's name came into the scene, people jumped on the "sin" ship. All we need now is for the Master of Master's name to be something like Superbia and we'll all be happy.
(Also gathering "special attack bonus" will forever be the worst English translation mistake ever lol)
| I think a packaging illustration to connect KH1.5+2.5 will not be drawn. |
Yeah, gotta draw that KH3 box art instead ;D
Glad they're not entirely content with the models yet, either.
lol the second Ava's name came into the scene, people jumped on the "sin" ship. All we need now is for the Master of Master's name to be something like Superbia and we'll all be happy.
(Also gathering "special attack bonus" will forever be the worst English translation mistake ever lol
Yeah, gotta draw that KH3 box art instead ;D
I'm happy with everything that I'm seeing so far except for this particular part...
As for KH2.8, the ‘Final Chapter Prologue’ in the title means that the story for KH3 has already begun.
Tai Yasue said that you don't need to play the previous title to "enjoy" Kingdom Hearts III, this statement seems kind of contradictory does it not?
Actually sin and guilt are the same but they are later clarified in the game by "another Chirithy" at 2:35.
[spoiler=Video][video=youtube;0GOCoDxvcFk]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0GOCoDxvcFk?t=155[/video]
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Tai Yasue said that you don't need to play the previous title to "enjoy" Kingdom Hearts III, this statement seems kind of contradictory does it not?
Glad to see they see the notice issues with lightning and models.
Tai Yasue said that you don't need to play the previous title to "enjoy" Kingdom Hearts III, this statement seems kind of contradictory does it not?
It doesn't have to be seriously vital, I think.
KH2 was playable kinda well without CoM so it shouldn't be impossible to link 2.8 to 3 yet make 3 a game that can be played as a standalone.
so how come kh fans are smarter then nomura i get it we found about the sin stuff before nomura even talk about it
How does "fans figuring something out" equal "nomura is dumber than the fans"
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How does "fans figuring something out" equal "nomura is dumber than the fans"
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Yeah, Nomura would already know this haha. I think he's just referring to players who've been keeping up with the series.
How does "fans figuring something out" equal "nomura is dumber than the fans"
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Yeah, Nomura would already know this haha. I think he's just referring to players who've been keeping up with the series.
so how come kh fans are smarter then nomura i get it we found about the sin stuff before nomura even talk about it
What? Nomura intentionally had "guilt/sin" in UX and then introduced Ava's name, then the rest of the Foreteller's until Dark Chirithy explained what guilt was.
He was planting the seeds for us all to notice and waited until most of the set up was done to talk about it (AKA now since BC is coming out).
Tai Yasue said that you don't need to play the previous title to "enjoy" Kingdom Hearts III, this statement seems kind of contradictory does it not?
The statement still applies. You can enjoy KH3 without the other games. Nomura is saying that 2.8 is setting up KH3's story. The series will obviously make more sense if you play the past games (and 2.8 especially considering the three titles in that collection will be very integral to the events of KH3) but they plan to make it so players can jump into KH3 without feeling like they can't enjoy the game and its story.
Glad they're not entirely content with the models yet, either.
Even WoFF's character models are closer to what I think people imagined they'd look like in an HD Kingdom Hearts game. They just need more people who are familiar with quality modeling and importing to UE4 to work on the project.
To this day, I'm surprised the Unchained team hasn't stealth-edited all of the "Special Attack Bonuses" back to Guilt with how important this concept keeps becoming.
It would be amazing if they could actually get the models and lighting closer to the Luminous footage,everything just looked perfect there,like no complaints at all.
It would be amazing if they could actually get the models and lighting closer to the Luminous footage,everything just looked perfect there,like no complaints at all.
Kingdom Hearts 3 was never ported to Luminous lol. Everything they showed us was either target render CG or just stuff they built and showed with Direct X11.
Kingdom Hearts 3 was never ported to Luminous lol. Everything they showed us was either target render CG or just stuff they built and showed with Direct X11.
Kingdom Hearts 3 was never ported to Luminous lol. Everything they showed us was either target render CG or just stuff they built and showed with Direct X11.
Didn't they start work on Luminous and move to unreal 4?
Either way i always assumed that this short footage,be it actual footage or a just target render was made from the Luminous engine.
[video=youtube;m2VV8kb15CQ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2VV8kb15CQ[/video]
Model and lightning wise,shouldn't it be possible to get something on par with that video on unreal 4 regardless?Nothing in that video seems impossible at all for current gen.
It's very clear they're reworking the models, based on what we've seen from Sora in 0.2 and Sora in KH3. Vastly different.
Didn't they start work on Luminous and move to unreal 4?
Either way i always assumed that this short footage,be it actual footage or a just target render was made from the Luminous engine.
[video=youtube;m2VV8kb15CQ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2VV8kb15CQ[/video]
Model and lightning wise,shouldn't it be possible to get something on par with that video on unreal 4 regardless?Nothing in that video seems impossible at all for current gen.
Seeing that trailer again... Man, I miss that clay look.
Didn't they start work on Luminous and move to unreal 4?
Either way i always assumed that this short footage,be it actual footage or a just target render was made from the Luminous engine.
[video=youtube;m2VV8kb15CQ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2VV8kb15CQ[/video]
Model and lightning wise,shouldn't it be possible to get something on par with that video on unreal 4 regardless?Nothing in that video seems impossible at all for current gen.
Nope. Luminous was still under development. The target render was CG made by Visual Works lol. Same for the FFXV trailer.
Around October 2013, Julien Merceron who was one of the leads of the Luminous Studio project actually left SE to work on the Fox Engine at Konami lol so at the time Luminous Engine was in a pretty bad place.
That trailer you linked was all DX11.
Conversation with Creators with Tetsuya Nomura Interview! - News - Kingdom Hearts Insider
And when Nomura referred to the game being "in-engine", he meant DX11 lol
UPDATE: Nomura Interview in Famitsu - Kingdom Hearts 3 and 2.5 Detailed! - News - Kingdom Hearts Insider
this pretty much confirms my thoughts that 2.8 is like a test. It's probably going to be a fun but deeply flawed game and the team is going to be listening to reviews and feedback, so be sure to speak your mind, folks
I'm happy with everything that I'm seeing so far except for this particular part...
Tai Yasue said that you don't need to play the previous title to "enjoy" Kingdom Hearts III, this statement seems kind of contradictory does it not?
To be honest...how much can you actually condense 15 years' worth of games storylines? I'm sure they'll do their best but I would bet real money that there's gonna be a lot of confusion from people playing KH3 when it first comes out - from people who don't read whatever codexes there are, or who haven't played any of the games beyond 1 and 2, or who played but forgot a lot, or who still don't get the plot (which is me on some things honestly). I'm sure they'll try their best but I feel like a lot of people are gonna be flocking to youtube to try and figure out stuff they're confused on.
This answered my question of whether there would be a brand new illustration to combine the artwork for 1.5 and 2.5. I wonder what the cover will look like since there won't be a new illustration drawn.
To be honest...how much can you actually condense 15 years' worth of games storylines? I'm sure they'll do their best but I would bet real money that there's gonna be a lot of confusion from people playing KH3 when it first comes out - from people who don't read whatever codexes there are, or who haven't played any of the games beyond 1 and 2, or who played but forgot a lot, or who still don't get the plot (which is me on some things honestly). I'm sure they'll try their best but I feel like a lot of people are gonna be flocking to youtube to try and figure out stuff they're confused on.
Also they can do something like with the Glossar or whatever that was in DDD
Ok that clears up a lot.
Seeing they could do that just on DX11,wondering they're having a tough time getting the visuals right with unreal 4.
How sad, he actually had to re-explain what "Final Chapter Prologue" means...
I guess Chuggaaconroy's asinine tweets were a huge helping in that.
I want a guidebook! Please a guidebook after 15 years!
Not that surprised they were having trouble with lighting/modelling. KH has had the same in engine look for about 12 or so years, and hasn't changed much outside of some tweaks. Not only are they skipping a console generation, they're also switching from an in house engine to an engine they haven't used before.
But if the final trailer is anything to go by, they're definitely making progress, and it's already looking better.
From the way he talked about the foreteller's masks, it sounds like we won't be seeing their faces anytime soon. A bit sad, but i'll take it.
But if BC and 0.2 aren't connected, then the guy in the black coat and goatblade standing by the keyblade graveyard in the final trailer (during the 0.2 segments) wasn't Luxu, but... YMX i guess? Either way, it's gonna be interesting for sure.
Also they can do something like with the Glossar or whatever that was in DDD
XBox owners both last gen and this gen can't play these, and I've seen a lot of people talking about how they don't want to bother with the movies or anything other than 3. The ones who don't want to bother playing or who won't even look up videos on youtube explaining are gonna be confused and it's their own fault, which is my point. The devs will do their best but it's not entirely on them to help people understand, especially when people are too lazy to even try and look things up beforehand.
They can just do some photoshopping work to combine the 2 covers or have one on front, one on the back. As long as they don't forget to edit out Riku's arms again.
Understandable. Remasters are usually outsourced.
Good to know they're dealing with that.
Thankfully they aren't as OP as KH2's. :v
Makes sense. You're playing as a character that was on the best of her abilities during the end of the game she starred. What I wonder is what reasonable explanation Nomura will have for Sora in KH3 to explain why he's starting with low leveled gear and spells.
In-between the lines: it'll be integral for the story of KH3. The same way he said "Unchained" would be important.
From the way he talked about the foreteller's masks, it sounds like we won't be seeing their faces anytime soon. A bit sad, but i'll take it.
No! Don't let this be true!
Anyway, I feel like Nomura just complimented us fans and called us smart. I feel really happy right now, because of that:D
Don't really know how I feel about there not being a new box cover for I.5+II.5, but it's probably for the best.
It's also nice to know that I.5+II.5 aren't taking away from KHIII's resources, but I didn't think that they were.
Glad he's talking about the models (now maybe people will stop harping on him so much, if they realize that Nomura notes the problems and is working on them)...
And it's good to know you can watch Back Cover whenever. Part of me wants to tell NicoB to play Unchained Key now because of that (before II.8 comes out--if he really wants to play something KH before getting to experience DDD and 0.2, that is).
Can't. Wait. For. II.8. And. More. III. News. Gah!
He also seems he treated the other part of the fandom as kinda slow puppies. Not that I find it unfair or untrue.
Makes sense. You're playing as a character that was on the best of her abilities during the end of the game she starred. What I wonder is what reasonable explanation Nomura will have for Sora in KH3 to explain why he's starting with low leveled gear and spells.
I hope it's a good one.
Usually the reasons for level 1 Sora were believable.
I hope it's a good one.
Usually the reasons for level 1 Sora were believable.
KHII's was kind of reasonable. But DDD's was far more reasonable. KHIII has my most interest.
He also seems he treated the other part of the fandom as kinda slow puppies. Not that I find it unfair or untrue.
I hope it's a good one.
Usually the reasons for level 1 Sora were believable.
KHII's was kind of reasonable. But DDD's was far more reasonable. KHIII has my most interest.
I'm looking forward to him explaining this exact thing for the entirety of the next saga too. I don't think he realizes people have taken this too seriously.
I mean if you think about it, there was absolutely no reason for TAV to be level 1 at the start of BBS. You're telling me Ventus was as strong as Terra and Aqua? And Aqua got to be a master at lvl 1?
TV Tropes thinks it'll probably because of what happened to Sora's heart at the end of DDD. We'll soon see if that theory has water or not:)
TV Tropes thinks it'll probably because of what happened to Sora's heart at the end of DDD. We'll soon see if that theory has water or not:)
This actually makes sense. Since his heart was fractured from Riku fighting, it'll be some time before he recovers and adapts.
For levels strictly, he can just make lvl 1 the "starting point" for Masters, and just go uphill from there. Magic and skills would prove much more difficult tho.
Eh, worst come to worst he can just GoW his way out of it and make some kind of enemy absorbing their powers or something.
I'm happy with everything that I'm seeing so far except for this particular part...
Tai Yasue said that you don't need to play the previous title to "enjoy" Kingdom Hearts III, this statement seems kind of contradictory does it not?
I enjoy KH games without giving much of a hoot about the plot; at it's best it's just a fun romp through colorful familiar locations, and in some of the games the gameplay is really good
In KH3’s development, they are reworking all of the models |
Oh yes ! They hear feedback
Tai Yasue said that you don't need to play the previous title to "enjoy" Kingdom Hearts III, this statement seems kind of contradictory does it not?
I specifically remember this was a question for Xbox One ports.
But I don't think it's contradictory though since it can be standalone but you'll just have a richer experience when you play the previous games.
Nomura: in kh3, you will be able to perform 'situation commands'. Now I know what you're thinking. 'Isn't that the same thing as a reaction command?' (laughs) This is an easy mistake to make at first glance-- However these flashy moves can only be performed in certain situations, and you will find that they are both incredibly bold but also very flashy.
interviewer: but how are they different from reaction commands?
Nomura: security, get this guy outta my goddamn studio. get him outta here
Thanks for the translation guys!!
• As for the lighting right now, we’ve wanted to present it without hurting the atmosphere, and we are receiving guidance from Visual Works and experimenting through trial and error. I think further improvements will be made in the future.
Praise the lord!!!
• We are unfamiliar with producing scenes in the next-gen engine and recreating all the character models were difficult. |
Yeah, no shit...
• In KH3’s development, they are reworking all of the models but please be relieved to know it is progressing forward as well as the timing for the announcement of new information. |
Yes yes yes! I am so happy that they know the models look awful and they are trying to fix them. A step in a good direction.
We want you to play 0.2 after seeing the secret movie of KHDDD. KHBC is not connected so you can enjoy viewing it anytime.
Do we think this is a new HD secret movie? or just the one from 3D. Otherwise it would suck having to wait to do 0.2 after DDD.
Do we think this is a new HD secret movie? or just the one from 3D. Otherwise it would suck having to wait to do 0.2 after DDD.
I think it's just the original secret ending.
It establishes [spoiler]Riku, Kairi, and Mickey in Yen Sid's study and that Sora is gone. 0.2 follows this with Mickey telling the story of Aqua and then Sora returns from his private mission.[/spoiler]
For newcomers, it's important to play DDD to view that scene before jumping ahead into 0.2 and being a bit lost.
Probably the usual DDD one because of all the spoilers.
ninjad and spoiled, sorry, didnt know we'd have to censor spoilers for DDD still!!
I just noticed the part about re-designing the worlds and I'm glad they're apparently catching up on the fact that no one wants to see the KH1 worlds ever again in the same way they were already displayed multiple times. xD
AND SORA AS WELL. DON'T EVER FORCE UGLY-ASS-SORA ON ME AGAIN, SE.
I think what they're going for is a mixture of DDD and what we're seeing in 0.2. DDD and 0.2 are clearly huge testing fields.
The problem with DDD was you could airslide over the entire map a lot of the time. There weren't really any interesting nooks and crannies. Not to mention how bland everything looked (the Fantasia world looked the best imo)
0.2, it still seems like Aqua can air slide over large distances, but the nooks and crannies seem to be peeking back through. Not to mention the amount of detail we've seen so far. My only hope is that in KH3, there will be more NPC's.
Like, can you imagine exploring Olympus in the clouds and now and then you meet a god/goddess chilling out or even offering a reward for doing something stupid/a challenge. I hope that will be how challenges are presented in KH3.
The problem with DDD was you could airslide over the entire map a lot of the time. There weren't really any interesting nooks and crannies. Not to mention how bland everything looked (the Fantasia world looked the best imo)
0.2, it still seems like Aqua can air slide over large distances, but the nooks and crannies seem to be peeking back through. Not to mention the amount of detail we've seen so far. My only hope is that in KH3, there will be more NPC's..
The difference is that in 3D you feel the need to slide through the whole maps because they're so outstandingly boring. When I played the demo of 0.2, I felt none of that. I felt like exploring every single corner even though I knew it was just a demo. The problem is not the possibilty to travel fast - it's the feeling of there being no reason not to do it.
Yes, that's what I mean. Nothing was interesting. There weren't really any hidden areas. You didn't really have any cool views of the rest of the environment. It all felt samey. The Fantasia world is the only one were i was like, "Oooo, I wanna see more."
Yes, that's what I mean. Nothing was interesting. There weren't really any hidden areas. You didn't really have any cool views of the rest of the environment. It all felt samey. The Fantasia world is the only one were i was like, "Oooo, I wanna see more."
The only world I was interested in was Traverse Town but they didn't pull it off too nicely in my opinion. :/ Still, I have a lot of faith in 0.2 in regards to this.
He talked about KH III, finally! That's the best news I've heard in a while. So, KH III story has already begun... Interesting. Please show KH III footage next month! I can't wait any longer!!!
He talked about KH III, finally! That's the best news I've heard in a while. So, KH III story has already begun... Interesting. Please show KH III footage next month! I can't wait any longer!!!
All i ever wanted from the worlds in KH was lots of secret/hidden/optional areas for each world.It was something i always wanted them to take more from the Dragon quest and FF series.
The worlds in KH are just too straightforward.You go through and there's generally nothing else to see outside the main path.
Kingdom Hearts 3 was never ported to Luminous lol. Everything they showed us was either target render CG or just stuff they built and showed with Direct X11.
Nope. Luminous was still under development. The target render was CG made by Visual Works lol. Same for the FFXV trailer.
Around October 2013, Julien Merceron who was one of the leads of the Luminous Studio project actually left SE to work on the Fox Engine at Konami lol so at the time Luminous Engine was in a pretty bad place.
That trailer you linked was all DX11.
Conversation with Creators with Tetsuya Nomura Interview! - News - Kingdom Hearts Insider
And when Nomura referred to the game being "in-engine", he meant DX11 lol
UPDATE: Nomura Interview in Famitsu - Kingdom Hearts 3 and 2.5 Detailed! - News - Kingdom Hearts Insider
Ok that clears up a lot.
Seeing they could do that just on DX11,wondering they're having a tough time getting the visuals right with unreal 4.
DX11 is not something you build a game with. It's not an engine. It's more like a component
So no, that footage was either CGI or the Luminous engine.
Frankly, Nomura throwing the "it's being built in DX11" around was kinda nonsensical.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_JkkqQ9qAg
Nomura just confuses me a lot sometimes,that in-engine comment he made me think it was something like that.
I just noticed the part about re-designing the worlds and I'm glad they're apparently catching up on the fact that no one wants to see the KH1 worlds ever again in the same way they were already displayed multiple times. xD
AND SORA AS WELL. DON'T EVER FORCE UGLY-ASS-SORA ON ME AGAIN, SE.
The difference is that in 3D you feel the need to slide through the whole maps because they're so outstandingly boring. When I played the demo of 0.2, I felt none of that. I felt like exploring every single corner even though I knew it was just a demo. The problem is not the possibilty to travel fast - it's the feeling of there being no reason not to do it.
Pretty much this.
Usually BbS is right at the bottom with KH II in terms of level design, but after playing it while paying attention to that, I think while still extremely poor, it had a few twists and exploration bits, more than DDD even if DDD has bigger areas.
The only world I really like from DDD is Symphony of Sorcery, I think they really aced that one.
I also agree on stop presenting KH1 areas, I love them in the first game but that's quite enough, and... sadly I still think we're gonna have a fair amount of ugly-ass-Sora ahead of us xD
KH3 new Screenshoot @_@
http://images.khinsider.com/2016%20Uploads/12/Dengeki/den%202.png
Isn't that from the trailer last year?
Edit: Eh, camera angle gets close to that shot.
Well, that sucks it's unlikely new artwork connection 1.5 and 2.5 won't be made. Would've been a great new piece of art to represent, well, the entire Xehanort Saga.
[FONT="]So what's this "secret movie"?
A new scene or the same secret ending as before?[/FONT]
[FONT='inherit']So what's this "secret movie"?
A new scene or the same secret ending as before?[/FONT]
The same secret ending as before.
Okay, thanks, just had to make sure :)
Muke
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