Nomura being such a big Star Wars fan this seems to be not that much of a surprise.

Although of course the SE side considering them does not necessarily mean anything to really come from it after all.

Disney...well, they wanted Chicken Little to be included as a summon to "promote" the movie, so I would certainly not be surprised if they want SE to include something of the new Star Wars animated series "Rebels" in KH 3 again for promoting purposes.

Really hope they don't add Star Wars or Marvel. I get that they're owned by Disney, but they're not Disney franchises, you know what I mean? Sora alongside Wolverine or Luke Skywalker would just not work in my opinion. Those worlds would throw off the Disney vibe, because they're not actual Disney-made properties. They don't have the same charm, for obvious reasons.

Would it ruin KH3 to include them? No, I doubt it. I just think it would make more sense to avoid them. It's one thing to include a world based on a single movie. It's another trying to include the entire Marvel or Star Wars universe into a single world. That'd be really difficult and probably wouldn't work.

If "nothing is off-limits" and they want a world with a lot of originality and what not then they really should consider Gravity Falls.

Also, I apologise a lot if none of my recent threads make sense. It's 1:30 am and I can barely keep my eyes open.

If there's not going to be a Hannah Montana world in KH3, I'm gonna be so dissappointed.

Thor Hammer for Donald, Captain America shield for Goofy, Lightsaber keyblade for Sora. That's as much Marve/Star Wars I ever want to see in Kingdom Hearts. I can accept Star Wars, but I'm not a fan of the series or it's inclusion in the Kingdom Hearts series. It's at least comparable to TRON or even Pirates of the Caribbean, so I could see it working.

However the thought of Spiderman, Wolverine, or the Hulk interacting with Sora and Disney characters...disgusts me even. It just sounds like an absolutely terrible fit. To be fair, I would have told you the same thing if you told me mixing Final Fantasy and Disney was a good idea before the original Kingdom Hearts was released.

I love both of those series to death, I consider the MCU my second KH in terms of how much I love it, but I don't want to see them in this or any KH game, it just wouldn't feel right at all. Like some were saying I could go for a small easter egg or promo thing, but I don't think a full blown world would go well in the game, there's WAY too much to both of them and it just wouldn't feel right.

Me I'd just perfer to have Miss Piggy as some sorta summon; I know that sounds wacked but she'd fit there really well. "You Heartless have had it!(Or in chara insults here) HIIII-YAH!"

But other than that and maybe some tiebacks, and possibly having some Star Wars in KH, I don't see what else'd fit very well.

I don't want to see Marvel or Star Wars in KH ever. Period.

I really think that there should be a Ducktales world.

KH and Star Wars is a match made in heaven but I'm afraid that is not going to happen for KHIII, and Marvel, I will like that too but Marvel is going to impose a lot of characters/worlds to promote their movies like the did with Marvel vs Capcom 3.

Sora would have to go to a Galaxy far far away...

It'd be really interesting to see how that would work. There's going to be plenty of ideas onward for any future installments.

All I want is a Gargoyle world and a Darkwing Duck cameo, is that so wrong?

Star wars should just be a gummi ship section.

*braces self for Imperial March Shimomura arrangement*

Well the Star Wars and Marvel worlds in the Kingdom Hearts series could work if done right.

The idea of Marvel or Star Wars being involved with KH at all makes me want to vomit. As much as I adore this series, I can honestly say their inclusion would ruin things for me.

It's not like I necessarily have a problem with those properties
But they just aren't "Disney."
And, let's be honest, they're both very very very large properties that I don't think can really be represented as a small KH world--especially not Star Wars, which itself uses several planets. And I don't want "Final Fantasy+Disney" to suddenly become "Final Fantasy+Marvel and Star Wars"
And of course, they both have more than enough media representation, including video games. They're pop culture powerhouses, so it's not like they'd even need to be included to promote new movies.

They may be owned by Disney, but they're still completely different. They're about as Disney as the Let's Players they acquired through Maker Studios.

Also kind of funny that nobody ever mentions Indiana Jones​, despite that also being a major Lucasfilm IP.

I don't like Marvel/Star Wars, but I, personally, don't understand, why some People are raging around and hatin' SE for it.

I really don't want 'em in KH, especially SW, 'cause they don't really fit into the Universe.
My friend himself is a SW and KH Fan, but he's thinking like me; They just don't fit.
^^

Alright, let's be serious here. I really don't see Marvel working as a world. And as a decades-old universe with thousands of comic series building upon it, it has way too much stuff to account for, so using it for a plotline would also be hard. Only way I see it working is for there to be a character or two as a cameo or secret boss, characters who could exist on their own in the KH universe without a world and more characters backing them. I can see a character like Deadpool appearing, for example. "Hey, another cross-over! How many does that make, already?"
But something like Spidey, the Fantastic Four or the X-Men? Nope.

As for Star Wars, I can sorta see it working better as a world than Marvel, but not by far. Darth Vader as a boss would be kickass, but he'd work just as well as a secret one.

Of course, they could always go the themed weapon route like someone else said. Or go the Chicken Little route instead and give Sora a summon based on one or the other.

The thing which interests me more is that "Nothing's off limits" implies that we could see some very unexpected stuff in KH3. Which is good for me because I like the unexpected.

I really don't want Marvel or Star Wars. BBS was SW enough, honestly.

Toss a lightsaber Keyblade or R2-D2 cameo ala JJ Abrams style in space or a gummi ship shaped like the Millenium Falcon, somebody says a Yoda quote.

Captain America shield for Goofy. Thor's hammer somewhere out there just sitting in an empty field that Sora, Donald, and Goofy heard a rumor about. "Powers of a god!?" and Donald gets that "look" in his eye as he runs off to try to pick it up and it only sort of budges when Goofy picks it up. Donald is bummed out and angry, Sora's kind of bummed but is like "We have something more powerful than whatever power we could get from that hammer, right guys?" in a lighthearted way before Donald and Goofy smile like "yeah~" because friendship and as they walk off the hammer sparks a little.

THAT'S IT. THAT IS ALL WE NEED. Big Hero 6 world AND THAT IS IT.

I want Disney TV shows like Gargoyles, Kim Possible, Darkwing Duck, Gravity Falls, Motorcity before I want to see Marvel and Star Wars. Can we visit those beloved series first then get multiverse up in here next saga?

The only Marvel property I want to see in KH is Big Hero 6. That has a universe, themes, and characters that would work extremely well in KH3 or the next saga. Plus the heroes in that movie are like a Disney version of the avengers. I'd rather see them than the actual avengers.

Summons could be cool like Vader or Yoda / Iron Man or Hulk, as well as themed Keyblades

But I agree with most people that they'd be weird as worlds.. I liked Space Paranoids, but The Grid felt off.. Port Royale is fun, and I wouldn't mind it coming back.

Can't think of any other live action worlds.

No character in Kingdom Hearts could ever be compared to the power of the Force.

The thing about Star Wars and Marvel is that they involve a lot of planetary travel. It would be difficult to condense that down into a "world". In BBS the Stitch world wasn't even really a "world" as the lore of KH defines one. It was just a ship out in the void of space. Nevertheless, I would be totally ok with them including aspects from those franchises in KH. I don't know how they would do a world, but having them appear in hub worlds or traveling through space or as summons/equipment, I think it could definitely work.

I'm fine with including elements from both franchises like weapons and gummi missions but please no worlds. This saga started with films of direct Disney origins and it should stay that way. Gotta feeling my wishes won't be granted.

So the only thing I can see from Star Wars is that your in the gummi ship, but your accidently sucked into a tractor beam by the death star. And basically Sora, Donald, and goofy end up in the death star at the same time that Luke, Han Solo, Chewbacca and Obi wan end up on the ship in the first movie. And you go with with Luke to save Leia(?). Afterward escaping from the ship you help them go down the trench to shoot a missile into the hole to blow up the death star.

I was thinking that Darth Vader uses the death star to blow up the worlds which essentially destroy's the heart of said world.

Idk, just an idea that could be possible for star wars.

I think SW could work as a world ... A friend of mine kinda forced me to watch both trilogies, and I found similar themes between SW and KH (especially BBS); after playing BBS (I kinda forced him too) he saw the same similarities: light and dark stuff for the most part.
I do agree the SW universe is way too vast to fit in one world, however it is possible to focus only on one episode or point in the story (finding Anakin> D Maul boss; or fighting clones> Grivious and Palpatine boss; or fighting watever (robots?)> Anakin boss; or just the death star; ...).

I don't know enough about the Marvel universe to give an unbiased opinion however ... But a Thor/Loki (Valhalla?) world could work well I think.

But whatever they throw at me, as long as I get my fix of KH3 it's done well, I'll gladly accept it :3.

Here we can have Frozen and Star Wars in the same game:

I was in the Studio Store at the same time as Nomura last night and he was browsing the Big Hero 6 merchandise pretty intently.

*begins chanting*

BIG HERO 6 <3 Like the others have said, it's honestly the only Marvel property (technically) I see working well.

I've talked with some of my friends about this. They thought it'd be a better idea to just give Darth Vader the Sephiroth treatment. Like he'd get a main story cutscene or two, but not a world, and just fight him at his best and he deserves to have the best boss battle treatment. >>

I could see Star Wars working as a world or a secret Darth Vader boss battle. Maybe the gummi ship getting pulled in by the death star and having that as the world. Then build the story from there teaming up with Luke fighting stormtroopers and heartless before finally facing Vader and the Emperor. As for Marvel.. maybe a Guardians of the Galaxy teamup rather than the Avengers? They're pretty comical and could fit in better it seems. I think it would be interesting to work with these ideas.

Well yeah but surely that could make it work without cursing lol. But think about it, maybe like Deep Space and Stitch it could be on Ronan's ship on his way to Xandar. You just team up with GotG to beat Ronan in an actual fight not a dance one lol and retrieve the orb. Keep the area and story simple and not confusing. I think its the most plausible way to include Marvel.

KH3 is trending on Facebook now because of this :D

I noticed that too. Probably because shortly before that they had colbert talking about star wars up on recent trends

Ugh if I have to stare at either in KH it better be done damn well and fit into KHverse rather than trying to merge the universes.

Man I have a feeling if a marvel and/or Star Wars world is announced there will be a huge divide in the fandom.

I'm neutral on the subject.

I mentioned in another thread about dlc worlds, and maybe a non-canon sort of way marvel and star wars could be add through dlc?

That way those worlds aren't forced on people who don't want to experience either of them.

It may be alright so long as they take whatever they're gonna take and alter it to fit into KH like they do with FF or TWEWY characters. KH is called a crossover but what it really does is take things and alter them to make it's own story. So long as they keep that up the damage and fan divide shouldn't be to bad......maybe......

I think that the most we should get in KHIII in terms of MARVEL or Star Wars is either a summon or a secret boss. Whichever they choose, that will be able to lead to a link to KHIV where they can incorporate the world(s). KHIII definitely doesn't need to be distracted by worlds that will be filled with a heavy plot. I want worlds that can easily adapt to the main story. I consider those worlds the ones that have been "done to death" like Halloween Town or Agrabah. Since those worlds lack any movie stories to follow, they can easily fold in the main story into those worlds. Other than that, the new Disney worlds should be ones that have a simple to follow plot that won't overload the already packed narrative of KH.

On a side note: Instead of focusing on Star Wars and MARVEL, which everyone is expecting, surprise us with KIM POSSIBLE!

lol Tai Yasue just can't stop spinning the rumor mill and spreading the gossip after he last talked about Frozen and Star Wars being possible worlds lol

It doesn't seem like he could say no about the possibility anyway,you gotta be as vague as possible to keep the hype train going.

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No. Just no. I can barely tolerate Tron and Pirates of the Caribbean. Not a big fan of Pixar either, but I can see how they at this point would have to bring Toy Story, Frozen and Finding Nemo into the mix. Although I'd argue there are still a lot of traditional Disney movies left to choose from (Pocahontas, The Great Mouse Detective, The Rescuers, The Sword in the Stone etc) along with cartoon series like Darkwing Duck and Chip 'n' Dale Rescue Rangers.

Honestly, if they're going to taint the image of the series with non-Disney series that they've basically just bought out of corporate greed then we might as well have Tomb Raider, Sleeping Dogs and Thief in it too.

I think those look like cool KH versions. I think if they have them appear in hub worlds or in DISNEY worlds that lack a movie plot, that could be interesting.

I just thought of another Disney animated show that could potentially work well in KH in some form: W.I.T.C.H.

If I remember correctly, the cartoon, at least, ran on Disney channel. And that had a pretty deep, and dark story with interesting characters and stuff (bonus points for the princess in it actually not being one of the main five characters).

The girls also all had powers, and were "guardians" who were meant to protect their world, Earth, as well as the world "Meridian". That right there sounds very KH-esque to me. Girl "guardians" with elemental powers, who are fighting to protect the different worlds?

And since different worlds are even canon in W.I.T.C.H, Square may even be able to work with that to their advantage, like they did with TWEWY in Dream Drop Distance.

And I've said it before, and I'll say it again: Percy Jackson would lend itself marvelously to KH. It would just work so well. I mean, Disney owns the books (or published them, or something), as well as the games, I guess.

And after having read the Heroes of Olympus series... My gosh, PJ pretty much IS KH in a lot of ways. I mean, Jason being Percy's Roman twin, like Roxas is Sora's Nobody? Check. (Okay, I'm not actually sure on that point, since I haven't read the last book yet, but there's been a lot of evidence to that, so I'm thinking that's what they were getting at, even though I don't know for sure yet.)

Characters trying to find and close doors (the Doors of Death, to be exact)? Check. Percy forgetting everything but the person he cares for most? Check. Percy and Annabeth pretty much falling into the equivalent of their worlds' Realm of Darkness? Check. The young heroes (Sora and the gang's age, btw) breaking up into groups of three to go on separate adventures with each other? Check.

Sora and Percy would be the best of friends, too. And another thing that adds fuel to this is that, unlike Marvel and Star Wars, Rick Riordan makes sure not to cross any lines that would keep kids from reading his work. He tows the line well, which is just like KH, tbh.

And before someone says they can't do it because of the gods in the Olympus Coliseum world, they could always just use the gods who weren't in Hercules: I.E. Percy who is the son of Poseidon, Annabeth who's the daughter of Athena, Piper who's the daughter of Aphrodite, Leo who's the son of Hephaestus, etc. I mean, when has KH ever completely represented a work and all of its characters anyway? Never.

There are also the Roman gods, like Nemesis, to consider, which wouldn't be hard to find stuff for in the books, since the second series (which is probably what Square should use, if they do this, as it's more grown up like KH is) pretty much revolves around them.

But what am I saying? This will never happen, because I really doubt that the people at SE would read these books to accomplish all this, but I can still dream:)

That Darth Vader looks cool, except for his lightsaber which looks absolutely bonkers.

For the love of Cosmos, PLEASE DO NOT PUT MARVEL AND STAR WARS INTO KINGDOM HEARTS III!!!

Sorry about that. Had to get it out of my system...

Seriously though, this series is convoluted enough as it is without adding even more elements from franchises that aren't truly Disney.

And at any rate, there are far too many works from both Disney and Square Enix that still need to be brought in first.

So since nothing's off limits will we see Pixar?:confused:

As much as I really, really love Marvel, It'd probably work out better if they referenced these things as easter eggs.

It'd be cool if Sora and Co. visited Endor. And none of the rest of the Star Wars universe existed. Just a world of Ewoks who get to meet Sora Donald Goofy.

That sounds great to me! I too don't think marvel or star wars would be a idea. But if they did decide to put in star wars, then it hastobe be the first, also known as the fourth.
But this also means we should be getting some pixar movies in there and newer movies like frozen! I was starting to get worried about which worlds were going to be in it.
But now they have a huge variety! And I trust that the worlds they choose will be the right ones for the game.

PLEASE DON'T LET US DOWN SE AND DISNEY and all the staff!

I think Star Wars will be in it some way...

While playing Kingdom Hearts 2 today, driving the Gummi Ship to Twilight Town. Feels like you're going against the Empire until you enter a trench inside of the Nododies ships. And when you escape you'll a giant beam trying to hit you; exactly as if it were to be the Death Star.

Although there are chances we might see a star wars world, a marvel world is really far fetched as of right now and even if they knew how to put it in the great scheme of things as a viable world there might be a chance Nomura-san and Square Enix won't include it as a potential world for future KH games, as we know there are going to be more KH games after Kingdom Hearts III. All in all, Pixar worlds should be pitched in first. They're perfect for the game and have had a long time coming to finally be included.

I mean a lot of expectations are riding on this game. Nomura-san and his team know they have to deliver upto those so including something as abstract and as flexible as a marvel oriented world is too big a risk as of now, and also a hassle considering the legal side of things. I'd love to see a marvel world as a big fan IF they are able to make it click with the theme and magic of the game.

^ I agree that they should wait until the next saga if they want to include Star Wars and Marvel. They still need to include Jungle Book like they've been wanting to and Pixar.

Pixar is definitely a more feasible choice in my opinion. The animation would mesh a lot better with the Kingdom Hearts-verse than the Pirates or Tron worlds have. And I even have an idea that a Toy Story world would help supplement the plot, since Ansem the Wise stated that anything can grow a heart, including a child's toy. Not to mention it seems like a perfect world for Sora and Co. to explore, being shrunk down to the size of a toy (or actually being one).

If Star Wars can get in Kingdom Hearts than I hope that they will consider a Percy Jackson/Heroes of Olympus world and a Kane Chronicles world in Kingdom Hearts. Disney owns the books the fans will buy anything that has Percy Jackson in it. Maybe they could make Percy and Annabeth secret bosses in Olympus Coliseum and have the Percy Jackson/Heroes of Olympus world for the next saga.

Kane Chronicles is Disney's first Egyptian Mythology IP and the series is very dark. We have the Chaos god Apophis trying to devour the Sun god Ra and end the world. The House of Life, who kills anyone who hosts a god in them and imprisons the gods in objects. The God of Evil Set, who in the first book tried to turn North America into a desert as his own birthday gift for himself. Setne, an evil ghost prince who has the book of Thoth, a book of magic that can cause so much chaos and destruction for the gods and the world. Walt, who is dying from a family cruse that dates back to his ancestor King Tut.

On the note of Marvel, if Marvel were to be included and it were NOT Big Hero 6, I would have to sit down and ask Square Enix what went wrong lol That's how obvious Big Hero 6 seems as a choice. I don't mean that offensively either, but Big Hero 6 is not only Disney, it has its own world (unlike the Marvel Universe which is all banded together) and it has great characters. Marvel problem solved (kind of...)!

It'd also be kinda weird to have Percy's world based on Greek myth along with Hercules. ತಎತ

Darth Tyranus / Ansem the wise in the same game would be cool. :)

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I've got to say, I'm still partially against a proper Star Wars world being a part of KH3, but if Vader looks like this, I would love to do battle with him in some form.