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Its a mouse and if you hadnt noticed he lived a long time cause he was the first one created to help make disney. Also in the game they go back in time and Mickey was still alive but he never change only in the world.
 

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Its a mouse and if you hadnt noticed he lived a long time cause he was the first one created to help make disney. Also in the game they go back in time and Mickey was still alive but he never change only in the world.
I haven't seen a mouse change it's appearance.
 

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Well, there's the possiblity that MX+DS=Xehanort, which may already have a possible foreshadow...
Besides, honestly, I do not think MX lost to Ven, Aqua and Terra in BBS...

...If it weren't for Omni breaking this thing up, I would have NO idea what you said. But yeah Omni, VAT totally lost to MX and DS in BBS.
 

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Ok then if VAT lost then Sora would have been dead thats not the end end. Cause Mickey shows up to help. Also in the pictures he defends them off when the others cant like Ven. So if Mickey is stronger than he might be able to win. Also its made by Disney they go on happy ever after so they win to bring peace and they are the good guys.
 

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Well, if the new enemies are fast, that would give a bit of meaning to the term Chasers.

But...I just can't see DS as being the Xehanort we know and love.
>.>
DS could use a keyblade himself, couldnt he? I don't see why Xemnas/X's Heartless couldn't also have the power to use the Keyblade then. Afterall, that would help Xemnas a bit in that whole making a Kingdom Hearts thing. And thanks to Roxas(I almost just typed Naruto >.>) we know the power to use the Keyblade can be passed over...

Because he forgot all about the fact that he could use a keyblade? Roxas didn't get Oathkeeper and Oblivion back until he remembered who he was.

Also, that logic is most definitely flawed, because whoever Xehanort is, the two most likely candidates are DS and Terra. And since both can use keyblades...
 

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Ok then if VAT lost then Sora would have been dead thats not the end end. Cause Mickey shows up to help. Also in the pictures he defends them off when the others cant like Ven. So if Mickey is stronger than he might be able to win. Also its made by Disney they go on happy ever after so they win to bring peace and they are the good guys.

Um...o_O ok why would Sora die?? First off, Sora was very much alive during BBS. In fact, screens have shown Riku and Sora playing on the beach, and in the Trailer from TGS it said that Terra watched the two play. So, Sora would not have...died...wtf? And who says that the picture of Mickey defending Ven is taking place during the Secret Ending??! No one.

And who says they die? No one. Double pwn.


Check on your facts a little more.

About Hades' comment on DS being Xehanort: Nomura said in an interview that DS is a new character.
 

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About Hades' comment on DS being Xehanort: Nomura said in an interview that DS is a new character.

What definition of "new" are you using? New as in "recently introduced", "never before seen"? Specify. And no, Nomura has never said squat about DS. Link pl0x.
 
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If MX won then he would kill VAT and the world with it. That would mean Sora would not have gotten the keyblade cause he is young and would not be ready and he doesnt get it till he is 14 or 15. Also you can tell VAt won cause Mickey showed up then at the beginning of KH1 he was king. That doesnt take a short time to get the kingdom so he had little to worry about.

Also like i said he ran off cause Ds which is Xehenort in KH not BBS regained his memory so he went to find him again while goofy and donald looked for the key.

So Hades do you think DS has a little chance of being Xehenort.
 

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So Hades do you think DS has a little chance of being Xehenort.

I think he has a fairly significant chance, I think. Especially considering all this stuff I've been finding lately...
 

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As in what kind of stuff? At least it not just me first I thought MX was Xehenort but then. I put a good theory story and it all fits if he didnt die then just knocked out and found by Mickey. Then given to Ansem then so on. Thats why Mickey knows so much but never talks. Also it could be his fault from the start for helping him cause of his good heart to see him in the condition he was in.
 

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Well, the whole Ven being thirty/Sora's dad thing is hardly plausible..

Thanks for pointing our my f ups, Hades.
 

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Well i think MX did lose to Ven Terra and Aqua cause if Mickey showed up you know he wont lose only if he dies. But yet he showed up in 1 and 2 so he must've won and Mickey doesnt say much so he must know about Xehenort like he says in the game. You know what i think Mickey gave Xehenort to Ansem when he got knocked out when MX lost.

Please... If Terra, Aqua and Ven couldn't hold their own against MX and the DS, what could Mickey, just coming from training under Yen Sid, possibly do...? Nothing...

Ok i think MX is too obvious cause of the name and also he will be first pick. So if you go to DS he fits its cause of everything about him explains and that would be why the outfit keyblade and the reason why he wants to make KH. So just as he did Ansem he took the name to finish the project himself.

Name or not, MX and Xehanort hold too many similiarites to be brushed aside... I'd say FM+ has a better chance at leaving Japan than MX not being part of Xehanort...
Also, the DS and Xehanort currently have nothing in common...


Interviewer: What is the importance of story?
Nomura: For example, the name Xehanort is bought up in Kingdom Hearts 2. The game will answer several things like, "Why is the elderly person who appears in Birth by Sleep bringing up the same name?" and ,"Why is he wearing the same clothes as Ansem in the original Kingdom Hearts?"

Ok see this it says the name of Xehenort was brought up. He never said the person so Xehenort isnt his name this means he took it. Also if MX+DS=Xehenort then how come when he changed into a heartless MX and DS divided. Also Ven he could be a brother or someone that is related to Sora like a dad too. Cause Terra seen them in Destiny island. If you look at KH and their cloths from that part it matches the one in BBS. Also Terra could be watching over them for Ven cause he thought he might die and Ven and Terra became friend so Terra agreed.

No it doesn't... Just because Nomura never says Xehanort's name is Xehanort, doesn't mean he stole the name... Also, XH and Xemnas both shared many similiarites with MX, XH just happened to share more...

Ok then if VAT lost then Sora would have been dead thats not the end end. Cause Mickey shows up to help. Also in the pictures he defends them off when the others cant like Ven. So if Mickey is stronger than he might be able to win. Also its made by Disney they go on happy ever after so they win to bring peace and they are the good guys.

Why would Sora die...? Except Mickey is weaker than he is in KH1 & 2... Mickey had just left from training under Yen Sid, so I doubt Mickey could even hold his own to someone as all powerful as MX... Just because Disney is apart of KH, doesn't mean everything has to be happy... Unless you forgot, Disney isn't afraid to kill...

If MX won then he would kill VAT and the world with it. That would mean Sora would not have gotten the keyblade cause he is young and would not be ready and he doesnt get it till he is 14 or 15. Also you can tell VAt won cause Mickey showed up then at the beginning of KH1 he was king. That doesnt take a short time to get the kingdom so he had little to worry about.

MX could have won... After beating VAT, he could had attempted to absorb his KH and since he could not control the energy, he selfdestructed, fusing him and the DS together and erasing their memories...
Just because Mickey showed up in KH1, does not mean they defeated MX... Because, as you know, TAV do not show up...
 

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xazure777x said:
As in what kind of stuff?

Well, you've noticed that Xehanort looks like Terra+MX, right? So what if DS is a Terra Replica? That would explain the similarities...furthermore, there are a few things that connect DS and Terra...

1. DS and Terra both have acrobatic fighting styles. DS jumped to block Ven's swipe, then did a backflip to ride a keyblade tornado. Xemnas is also an acrobatic fighter.

2. DS and Terra both have a connection to Riku. DS has the outfit and the keyblade, and Terra has the name and the KK symbolism from Gathering.

3. Both Terra and DS use blizzaga shots.

4. Body shape:http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x243/HadesDragoon/sa404020bn9.jpg

Both DS and Terra have similar bodies. Torsos match, neck matches, etc.

4. Terra has an attack where gears pop up and spin around. DS's keyblade is designed with a "gear" motif.

You see?

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Thanks for pointing our my f ups, Hades.

You're welcome, =3.

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Also, the DS and Xehanort currently have nothing in common...

Actually, they do: acrobatic fighting style.
 

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Ok well first DS is a STUDENT of MX so thats where he got his skills. Two in the pictures Mickey held off DS when Ven was hurt and on the ground. But it may have been one on one but it seems he succeeded in defending Ven for the time.

Also it cant be Terra cause in KH2FM+ you fight Terra if you can beat the game. Also you know its Terra cause of the Keyblade he wields.
 

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Ok well first DS is a STUDENT of MX so thats where he got his skills. Two in the pictures Mickey held off DS when Ven was hurt and on the ground. But it may have been one on one but it seems he succeeded in defending Ven for the time.

Also it cant be Terra cause in KH2FM+ you fight Terra if you can beat the game. Also you know its Terra cause of the Keyblade he wields.

Skills or not, it still doesn't deny the physical and mental connections MX has with Xehanort...
You can say what you want, but as of now, there is no character with more similiarities with Xehanort then MX...


Actually, they do: acrobatic fighting style.

<_< You know what I mean and that's with Xemnas, not Xehanort because XH is anything but acrobatic... But of course, we've yet to see Xehanort fight, so...
 

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Also it cant be Terra cause in KH2FM+ you fight Terra if you can beat the game. Also you know its Terra cause of the Keyblade he wields.

That battle might not be canon, you know.

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You can say what you want, but as of now, there is no character with more similiarities with Xehanort then MX...

...except Terra, <_<;.
 
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