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Was it really necessary to bring back a post from half a year ago just to revive this discussion?

And since we're here, I never considered her the main character of the game. She's the one who cleans things afterwards, sure, but her route through the main game feels less relevant than the other two since we just deal with the fall out of their actions until the big showdown.

If anything, it's almost like Aqua's actual side of the game doesn't really start until the Endgame + Extra Route because everything before that is just a build up.

It's sorta like saying Riku is the main character of 3D because he deal with the ending.
 

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Aqua is in the centre for the HD 2.5 Remix cover. I think that's telling as to who's considered the main protagonist of that trio.
 

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I'm going to leave this open since the discussion has already progressed but please stop bumping old threads, guys. 3 months is the cutoff. Just make a new thread, it'd save you the trouble of digging through the archives.

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I certainly don't. She's a boring miss goodie two shoes. I don't like hate her but the other two are much more interesting to me. Besides i reckon 90% of her fans only like her because she has certain assets, which a good character does not make.
Excuse you, I resemble that remark.

Aqua is the main lead of BBS.
Honestly though, it's because her magic.
The boobies are (flips through notebook) fifth on the list.
1. Magic <3
2. Cartwheel
3. She don't hold her Keyblade like a moron.
4. She's internally tough, having to make the hard choices.
5. Dem tiddies
6. Thigh gap <3 <3 <3
7. Blue hair <3 <3
8. Her heart is stronger than both Terra's and Ven's (though that second one isn't much of a feat)
9. She's not an amnesic heart parasite.
10. She's the only one of the BBS trio to get their own game.
11. She's the only one to attain the rank of Master.
12. She's not Ven.
 

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Excuse you, I resemble that remark.

Aqua is the main lead of BBS.
Honestly though, it's because her magic.
The boobies are (flips through notebook) fifth on the list.
1. Magic <3
2. Cartwheel
3. She don't hold her Keyblade like a moron.
4. She's internally tough, having to make the hard choices.
5. Dem tiddies
6. Thigh gap <3 <3 <3
7. Blue hair <3 <3
8. Her heart is stronger than both Terra's and Ven's (though that second one isn't much of a feat)
9. She's not an amnesic heart parasite.
10. She's the only one of the BBS trio to get their own game.
11. She's the only one to attain the rank of Master.
12. She's not Ven.
Sorry but I respectfully disagree with you, here’s why
Ventus is better (imo)
1. Strength + Speed + Magic = balanced<3
2. The classic dodge roll (nothing beats this:p)
3. Unique style of holding his keyblade (u jealous)
4. will take his own life to save his loved ones
5. Better keyblade glider at least better then aqua’s weird looking one
6. looks like Roxas nuff said
7. Roxas beautiful hair style
8. Umm they are all have equally strong hearts what game have you been playing?
9. Amnesia parasite? let xehanort split aqua’s heart in half then lets see how she acts, Despite being split in half and getting amnesia, ven still stays strong
10. Well Duh she wasn’t targeted by MX she was the lucky one between the three cause he didn’t include her in his plans
11. Terra is a a true master obviously, if Eraqus was a better teacher and wasn’t racist toward the darkness, then terra would have passed, eraqus and aqua are blinded by the light
12. How many times did ventus save “Master Aqua” from vanitas again? Lol yea she wishes she was as awesome as ven.
13. (Bonus) ventus didn’t Doubt his friend (terra) like a certain girl with blue hair who believed in the rumor that terra did bad things when he actually didn’t

Edit: leave my boy ven alone xD
 
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2. The classic dodge roll (nothing beats this:p)
I love the cartwheel more, but to be fair, Dodge Roll is God-Tier evasion.

3. Unique style of holding his keyblade (u jealous)
AAAAHAHHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHA *COUGHS FROM LAUGHING*

no

4. will take his own life to save his loved ones
Yes, being emo makes him cool.
"pwease kill me guise. I dun wanna be a kiblead"
/s

6. looks like Roxas nuff said
And now you disrespecting Roxas?

9. Amnesia parasite? let xehanort split aqua’s heart in half then lets see how she acts, Despite being split in half and getting amnesia, ven still stays strong
And was the first to die in the original timeline. Ven is the Kingdom Hearts version of Yamcha.

11. Terra is a a true master obviously
debatable

if Eraqus was a better teacher and wasn’t racist toward the darkness, then terra would have passed, eraqus and aqua are blinded by the light
I'm not going to argue with you on this point, because it is true.

13. (Bonus) ventus didn’t Doubt his friend (terra) like a certain girl with blue hair who believed in the rumor that terra did bad things when he actually didn’t
Ven's a kid. He literally gave Anakin the benefit of the doubt because "we're friends".
Aqua's not a child. She knows Terra better than Ven. And all she does is try to talk to him and convince him to not do evil stuff. Ven follows like he's codependant.

Trash talk my precious boy again and I will attack your precious wifi or waifu? Either way you have been warned!!!! xD
As convinced as I am that Ven is the MoM, until he grows up, he sucks. He's the first to get his ass beat, and the second-to-last to do something relevant. He's been a pawn his entire life. Even when he does have clout, he's being used by someone else. Condoms get used once. At least they're functional, but that's the thing. They only get used once.

Ven is a mark.
 

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I love the cartwheel more, but to be fair, Dodge Roll is God-Tier evasion.



AAAAHAHHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHA *COUGHS FROM LAUGHING*

no



Yes, being emo makes him cool.
"pwease kill me guise. I dun wanna be a kiblead"
/s



And now you disrespecting Roxas?



And was the first to die in the original timeline. Ven is the Kingdom Hearts version of Yamcha.



debatable



I'm not going to argue with you on this point, because it is true.



Ven's a kid. He literally gave Anakin the benefit of the doubt because "we're friends".
Aqua's not a child. She knows Terra better than Ven. And all she does is try to talk to him and convince him to not do evil stuff. Ven follows like he's codependant.



As convinced as I am that Ven is the MoM, until he grows up, he sucks. He's the first to get his ass beat, and the second-to-last to do something relevant. He's been a pawn his entire life. Even when he does have clout, he's being used by someone else. Condoms get used once. At least they're functional, but that's the thing. They only get used once.

Ven is a mark.
My God you’re such a troll xD I can’t tell if you’re joking around or being serious or not but I will respond anyway


1. Looks like you never saw backhanded sword (or dagger) style cause it’s better then Aqua “I’m fabulous” style

2. Hahah you serious his the least emo in the bunch

3. At least his not Im ms perfect doubt your friend and ruin your friendship

4. This Yamcha (ven) beat vanitas in the rematch fight the same vanitas that Aqua got a draw with in neverland lol

5. It’s not debatable, since she didn’t show any feat that puts her above terra in bbs

6. Trusting a villain who you barely know over your own friend who lives with you and know you your entire life? I guess your love for aqua blinded you, I can see that you maleficent and Pete can be Good friends

7. Well yea he got his ass beat cause his the least trained probably Eraqus was afraid he will gain power so he didn’t bother to train him as much, yet despite being the less experienced one (cause his the youngest) his still close to Terra and Aqua in power and that’s when his still in training
 

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My God you’re such a troll xD I can’t tell if you’re joking around or being serious or not but I will respond anyway
Yeah. I've had years of practice at this. In fact, when I first joined KHI, people would get in trouble for derailing threads, but I'd often wind up fine because it was so damn funny.

1. Looks like you never saw backhanded sword (or dagger) style cause it’s better then Aqua “I’m fabulous” style
I don't think that style works well for Keyblade wielders. It's beautiful and all, but Aqua's cartwheel adds love fluff to my heart.

2. Hahah you serious his the least emo in the bunch
3/4 serious. He did literally beg Terra and Aqua to kill him.

3. At least his not Im ms perfect doubt your friend and ruin your friendship
My point with that statement was that Aqua is smarter and more mature. she can think with an adult brain. Whatever's jamming up Ven's jelly is keeping him biologically frozen at 15. And she didn't ruin their friendship. If anyone did, it was Terra and Xehanort.

To be fair, Aqua was right to question him. His very first world, he forged a very questionable friendship. First of all, it's dumb to trust someone names Maleficent. The prefix alone means evil. Under possession, he snatched someone's heart. Terra's kinda dumb.

4. This Yamcha (ven) beat vanitas in the rematch fight the same vanitas that Aqua got a draw with in neverland lol
Yes, and even Yamcha beat Goku once.

5. It’s not debatable, since she didn’t show any feat that puts her above terra in bbs
Resisting the allure of darkness. The title of Master isn't solely based off of strength and you know it; otherwise, Sora would have been a Master in KH2.

6. Trusting a villain who you barely know over your own friend who lives with you and know you your entire life? I guess your love for aqua blinded you, I can see that you maleficent and Pete can be Good friends
Maleficent strikes me a "Lucielle Bluth" evil. Like, she'd probably invite Sora to her wedding if her and Pete ever got hitched.
And hell yeah, I'd get drunk with Pete.

I'd also have no issue siccing Heartless on people if they meant me harm.
 

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Yeah. I've had years of practice at this. In fact, when I first joined KHI, people would get in trouble for derailing threads, but I'd often wind up fine because it was so damn funny.



I don't think that style works well for Keyblade wielders. It's beautiful and all, but Aqua's cartwheel adds love fluff to my heart.



3/4 serious. He did literally beg Terra and Aqua to kill him.



My point with that statement was that Aqua is smarter and more mature. she can think with an adult brain. Whatever's jamming up Ven's jelly is keeping him biologically frozen at 15. And she didn't ruin their friendship. If anyone did, it was Terra and Xehanort.

To be fair, Aqua was right to question him. His very first world, he forged a very questionable friendship. First of all, it's dumb to trust someone names Maleficent. The prefix alone means evil. Under possession, he snatched someone's heart. Terra's kinda dumb.



Yes, and even Yamcha beat Goku once.



Resisting the allure of darkness. The title of Master isn't solely based off of strength and you know it; otherwise, Sora would have been a Master in KH2.



Maleficent strikes me a "Lucielle Bluth" evil. Like, she'd probably invite Sora to her wedding if her and Pete ever got hitched.
And hell yeah, I'd get drunk with Pete.

I'd also have no issue siccing Heartless on people if they meant me harm.
the only one with normal fighting stance in this franchise is eraqus and possibly terra, meanwhile Aqua stance is hmm I feel like it’s just like everyone else, not saying it’s bad but just like Sora riku kairi and Xion, it’s a stance you don’t often see anyone use in real life, heck even ventus’s stance look more real (with dagger as weapon) except the spinning part, also what is weird is that they are wielding a key+sword kind of weapon but instead him holding his keyblade backwards is what bothers you lol but eh I don’t mind if you don’t like it it’s your opinion we are all free to voice opinions, I love his keyblade stance anyway:p Also

1) hmm asking someone to kill you is considered emo? That is new to me cause when I say emo I’m talking about characters like KH2 Riku+versus13 Noctis+Yozora, point Is to assure their safety he wanted to die just to protect his friends not for selfish reasons, if you see that as emo then don’t know what to say to you, I Guess whatever makes you sleep at night.

2) she may be wise but that’s it, just like terra and ven she made mistakes, also terra didn’t help maleficent you blind or what lol again can’t tell if you’re just messing around or serious, she manipulated him he wasn’t in control he didn’t trust her or even help her, you’re just covering for Aqua’s mistake cause you like her cause she has boobs cause she is A Girl!!! Probably the main reason why she’s soo popular lol I like aqua because of her character unlike fake guys who love her cause she’s a strong female fighter, point she made a big mistake believing in maleficent lies and distrusting terra, don’t cover for her, the fact the three of them made a mistake shows they have flaws which what makes them human, in my eyes she made mistakes like everyone and I think she’s a cool character but you and aqua fans making me hate her even more when you try making her look flawless and never made a mistake,

3) then Aqua is much weaker then I thought struggling against vanitas who is a small fragment of yamcha (ventus) lol ok let’s put the yamcha jokes aside now it’s getting ridiculous, overall ventus is not weak despite being the less experienced one he grew on his journey and got stronger to the point he could beat vanitas on his own without Mickey’s help in the final battle that’s fact no need for a debate

4) obviously strength alone isn’t enough to be a master, but Terra is a master in using his keyblade and using magic and just like Aqua he knows everything about the knowledge of the keyblade, his only struggle is to face his darkness
(like we said already Eraqus darkness racism is why he failed) and that is not easy specially when you have Master xehanort lurking around every corner trying to make him trip every second, his a master but not in title and yea just like you said his like Sora, except Terra is more experienced on using the keyblade since he was trained by a keyblade master.

about the last one... Eh I actually like maleficent she’s my favorite Disney villain so I wouldn’t mind being friends with her and hear her witchy laugh.
 
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