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But from what i know the translations are done without change in dialouge, no?
Dogenzaka said:Yes, and it is the general opinion among the Kingdom Hearts knowledgeable that the fangirls who think there is some sort of romantic relationship between Axel and Roxas, and furthermore after 358/2, are balls on the wall insane.
how has dogenzaka not been banned by now lol.
Anywhooooo~ I can't see there being much AkuRoku now after playing Days, especially after that second-to-last interaction that Roxas had with Axel.
I can't even see it from Axel's side anymore since
1) The obsession finally had an explanation both for Roxas himself as well as everything Xion dumped on them.
2) AkuShi ouo nuff said.
3) AkuSaix XD~
And that's the reason I feel like leaving the forums altogether sometimes, and the reason I start wondering whether I should stop translating interviews, cutscenes, novels and coded.
You'd think that, with me having almost 20,000 more posts than you over 4 years of being on this forum, I'd know what constitutes a ban more than you.
I'm declaring my opinion on the matter similar to what some of you are doing.
Hence, the title of the thread.
^ This.
Having worked for the community before, let me give you some real-world advice.
What you do here will give you absolutely nothing in return.
Most importantly, you are a username. You are entirely replaceable.
What you do here should be out of the volition of your own will and kindness, expecting no reward.
Because nobody can give you any reward. No one here is paid, you know.
Nobody in the real world cares much about how much you've translated gushy second-party novels, etc.
If you are expecting anything out of your work for the community, you are doing it for the wrong reasons in the first place, and will be sorely disappointed.
And if you're using your work as a guilt-trippy "threat", then by all means you clearly have the wrong will about it.
It doesn't matter if you're respected, what opinion people have of you, whatever. None of that is important, nor should it affect your will to do what you like or don't like at all.
If you happen to care what the anti-AkuRoku people think about you, I'd dread to think what would happen to you if you were exposed to *gasp* the overwhelming number of people in the world who think Kingdom Hearts as a whole is a babied, simplistic, substance-lacking RPG for newbs.
I'd hardly say they laid it on thick. Especially at the end of the game, they kind of made it painfully obvious Roxas doesn't really think too highly of Axel >w>;;; if anything it's one sided.
Whether or not you take it that extra step forward is up to you and what you want to write in your fanfic.
I... don't think that's what they were going for. Lashing out at a friend doesn't necessarily mean you're not still friends with them. Roxas' idea of getting his life back includes Axel - he just doesn't trust Axel to give him the answers he's looking for (which is pretty reasonable, considering everything).
358/2 Days might have done a fair amount to sink AkuRoku, but I don't think it did quite so much to sink their friendship as you're suggesting.
Remember what Axel said? There are no "steps."
lols this guy takes things waaay too seriously.
in your display pic it shows zexions book as "book of doom". are you sure he just doesnt have a deathnote?
I never bought into the whole axel/roxas thing because I never saw it. I guess it's because I'm not immature. :\
NO ROXASXAXEL K
RoxasXNamine
NO person in any kh is gay got it
have a nice day!
It goes deeper than that. He lashed out at him quite a few times in the game, for things I found to be unreasonable. When even Xion came to Roxas and blinked at him being THAT upset over Axel using violence to -gasp- bring her back, when she was the one that drew the Keyblade first at Roxas, I call Roxas a person who has no idea what's going on around him and his accusations towards Axel unbased. Even when he yelled at him about how they were friends, it was as though to milk out the answers out of him, and when he did get the answers he was upset because he thought Axel was attacking Xion again. The kid might've been clueless and blank and unknowing, but that doesn't change the impression that he doesn't hold much from Axel anymore. Even the WINNER stick he left for Axel is just like what Axel said - final. He wasn't expecting Roxas back, and I don't think Roxas was planning to come back, not to Axel alone.
If he was to come back to Axel, chances are it was because Xion kept mentioning them as a threesome, saying it's just not the same without all three of them, rather than something Roxas himself felt up to.
Axel, after all, according to Roxas - wouldn't have missed him, so why should he be planning on coming back - unless it was for Xion's final words about being happy to have met BOTH of them?
It was actually worse than KH2 was for AkuRoku for me. In KH2 I thought they just didn't bother to put in that Roxas cared. Now they did bother to show in a way that he did NOT care (relatively speaking for Nobodies of course, regardless of Roxas being able to feel or not at the moment).
Axel also said he never really found love before. So I guess he wouldn't really know. Even him setting friends and lovers apart isn't really too true, seeing how a good relationship is established on what a good friendship is.
NO ROXASXAXEL K
RoxasXNamine
NO person in any kh is gay got it
have a nice day!
Well, yeah, it [i]was[/i] unreasonable. But it's not really Roxas' fault - he simply doesn't have the experience to understand what's really going on. Both Axel and Xion - as well as the player - know that, if Axel hadn't taken the extreme measures he did, Xion would have taken off and ended up being in even greater danger. But Roxas [i]doesn't[/i] know that - he thinks friends don't hurt each other, ever.
In my opinion, Roxas wants his time with Axel back just as much as he wants his time with Xion back. He just doesn't realize that Axel wants the same thing - all he can see is that Axel is being dishonest with him (and thinks that means Axel doesn't care). Plus, the only method Roxas has ever been shown for patching things up with his friends is waiting for them to come back to him.
The real issue is, Kingdom Hearts is about friendship - but it's not necessarily an idealized version of it. Nomura strongly believes that pain is an important aspect of friendship relationships, and is interested in exploring that. He's perfectly willing to let his characters who are friends hurt each other a lot, or go through phases where they seem like they don't care - and that's what happened with Axel and Roxas, except that Riku ensured they never really had a chance to resolve that.
Well, yeah, it [i]was[/i] unreasonable. But it's not really Roxas' fault - he simply doesn't have the experience to understand what's really going on. Both Axel and Xion - as well as the player - know that, if Axel hadn't taken the extreme measures he did, Xion would have taken off and ended up being in even greater danger. But Roxas [i]doesn't[/i] know that - he thinks friends don't hurt each other, ever.
In my opinion, Roxas wants his time with Axel back just as much as he wants his time with Xion back. He just doesn't realize that Axel wants the same thing - all he can see is that Axel is being dishonest with him (and thinks that means Axel doesn't care). Plus, the only method Roxas has ever been shown for patching things up with his friends is waiting for them to come back to him.
The real issue is, Kingdom Hearts is about friendship - but it's not necessarily an idealized version of it. Nomura strongly believes that pain is an important aspect of friendship relationships, and is interested in exploring that. He's perfectly willing to let his characters who are friends hurt each other a lot, or go through phases where they seem like they don't care - and that's what happened with Axel and Roxas, except that Riku ensured they never really had a chance to resolve that.
The point of that seems to be more that lover isn't the next logical step up from best friend, not that friendship and love aren't related. Friendship can become infinitely strong without necessarily turning into love - and love can sometimes be weaker than a really strong friendship.
And it's very boyish. One day they fight each other raw, and the next, they're back to best buds again or something >.>.