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It doesn't have to be a retread of the film's plot. Maleficent or someone can bring back Jafar because they need his powers as a sorcerer. Instead of turning into a genie, he turns into a snake for the last battle. I don't get why revisiting Agrabah means redoing a film plot. I actually hope for an original plot in Agrabah some day since I think it would be a great world to revisit given KH3's capabilities.
Because if we have to go back to Agrabah, everyone would rather have King of Thieves, not a revived Jafar.
I think that's debatable. I never saw King of Thieves and really don't care to because in my eyes the villain of Aladdin is Jafar. Even if it's an original story with Jafar revived somehow, that would be way more memorable than whatever King of Thieves can offer. I'm not saying that as an insult to King of Thieves, I'm saying it more so because casuals that play Kingdom Hearts probably don't even know King of Thieves (or Return of Jafar) exist. A lot of Disney fans haven't even watched Return of Jafar or King of Thieves and don't care for the straight to VHS sequels.
How would you know that Jafar revived again would be a more memorable storyline if you haven’t seen King of Thieves?
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Because people are obsessed with nostalgia. Jafar is nostalgic, King of Thieves is not. Anything with Jafar will inevitably be more memorable than anything related to King of Thieves in an already obscure video game which has its own nostalgia with Jafar.
& here I'm sitting, thinking to myself: "Gee, Mozenrath from the tv series would be awesome to have in KH!" Mozenrath was the originally intended villain for Aladdin 3, wish they stuck with that plan.
Jesus, what? Why didn't the 3rd film in a series get a remake? That a serious question?
There's a difference between nostalgia and repetition. The organization is something that I'd let slide because KH3 has shown they movesets to be both iconic and original.
Exploring the Cave of Wonders in KH3 graphics/world design would be amazing!& here I'm sitting, thinking to myself: "Gee, Mozenrath from the tv series would be awesome to have in KH!" Mozenrath was the originally intended villain for Aladdin 3, wish they stuck with that plan.
The way I see it, there's Disney Plus now, the King of Thieves is right there for anyone to catch up on at anytime. It is to Disney benefit for the KH series to motivate players to watch more D+ content. KH has already had a direct-to-video world in the form of the Three Musketeers (show of hands, has anyone even heard of that one before it was revealed for DDD?), & The Caribbean had Davy Jones as an example of a sequel villain that wasn't around the 1st time we went to a world. Basically there's nothing to inherently oppose KoT from happening.
Furthermore, this shouldn't need to be pointed out but....King of Thieves doesn't rule out a Jafar return! As long as the KH series is ever ongoing, there's always the chance of Agrabah making yet another appearance, KoT isn't the end of the line. They can do both. Heck, this is even true in the actual film continuity, an episode of the Hercules tv series had an Aladdin crossover with Hades reviving Jafar & it appeared to be set after the 3rd film:
(This ironically makes the show MORE canon to Aladdin than to its own film)
Jesus, what? Why didn't the 3rd film in a series get a remake? That a serious question?
Ok, how about this, KoT is worth putting in because it has a freaking Turtle/island/castle thing:
Does Jafar's revival come with a giant turtle/island/castle/dungeon with a bunch of puzzles & shit? No, I don't think it would. Nah, we'd be going to the Cave of Wonders for the umpteenth time.
I hope (and kinda expect) Hades to leave Olympus to chase after Sora for ruining his plans. I would like Hades to be his own force outside of Olympus and I would also expect him to team up with Jafar. Possibly they can even feud with Maleficent and Pete, as they feel betrayed by her.There's a difference between nostalgia and repetition. The organization is something that I'd let slide because KH3 has shown they movesets to be both iconic and original.
You won't find that after our fourth or fifth battle with Genie Jafar....at all. It's one thing to bring back Disney villains because they have potential. Hades and Jafar teaming up just like in the Herc tv show? I'd honestly like that. Maybe they have the potential to not only mess around with SDG, but to traverse to the other worlds in search of something of their own desire.
It's another thing to bring back a Disney villain so they can just be a one-and-done boss fodder like almost every other Disney villain after 2.
You can see my annoyance with Disney villain revival after Ursula who just decides to come back for the lols with so little explanation. twice.
I think you missed my point. If they're doing Agrabah again, then the boss fight should be Jafar. They can use whatever story they want, once the boss fight is Jafar. KH will lose its magic if every Disney world we go to ends up not having an iconic Disney villain as the boss fight. We already saw the outrage for KH3 only having 2 Disney boss fights, one of which was just fighting an evil version of your team-mate and was more of a minigame than actual fight.
It would! And Jafar doesn’t have to be around for us to do so!
Jafar can come back, but it’s just that having him be the villain in 1, CoM, 2, coded, and X, it’d be nice to have a new, fresh villain.
The purpose of the remakes is to take the original, first film featuring these characters and remake it. It comes down to the people up top whether it incorporates elements from sequels and other media. Beauty and the Beast’s remake proved this when it used elements from the christmas special.
This doesn’t invalidate it from being a movie that people grew up watching. Aladdin was VERY popular and this movie came out four years after the first film. While Disney wouldn’t disclose sales numbers, it apparently sold more than The Return of Jafar:
If they do King of Thieves then Jafar should not be anywhere near that. They shouldn’t be beholden to shoehorn in a boss battle with the first villain from the series just because. That’s like saying that the Pirates of the Caribbean world should have had us fight Barbossa instead of Davy Jones at the end.
OK dude, just watch the damn movie already. To be spending this much time & energy shooting down a Disney film you've never even seen before should only be permitted for Song of the South. D+ has a free 7-day trial. I've been watching it as we speak. It's called research.
A portion, but not all.
Heard yes, watched, not sure. There were a bunch of 'implement trio in setting x' movies back then.
No... That doesn't work this way. Just making a story and slapping a known face at the end is way to vague and would be way to risky for a lower level of quality. Not even mentioning the fact that it would be repitive to see these villains come back each damn time we visit a certain world and on top of that, just in order to be defeated at the end of the world story. I can just speak for myself here, but I would hate that. The Malefiz approach is way better.
And this proves ladies and gentlemen, that even both Square AND Disney DOES NOT KNOW how to make Disney worlds work in this game. So they just copy the worlds already in Chi!
That was truly a underrated take on Disney Worlds that I wish got more love then they get, even from the Days fanbase lol.
