Hikari44 said:So my new official statement: FF IX is the worst PS2 FF besides X-2.
Guess what. FFIX was a PSone game. 0 sn4pz!1!shift1
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Hikari44 said:So my new official statement: FF IX is the worst PS2 FF besides X-2.
Hikari44 said:besides, garnet isn't exactly the strongest or most interesting main female lead....she kind of sucks, actually. At one point in the game, she ACTUALLY becomes useless and "forgets to concentrate" because she's so distraught about alexandria - who's emo and useless now?
Square Ninja said:Tifa, who has less personality for the entire game than what I leave in toilet.
Square Ninja said:Perhaps if she actually had some time for genuine character development and more than some vague hint of a backstory, then people might like her a little more.
KingM911 said:And she almost never did anything useful; always running around and getting captured... having the eidolons sucked out of her and such.
Wrong. Cloud was a real person, whom Hojo experimented on by injecting Jenova Cells into him in order to test his strength and to see if he was worthy of being in SOLDIER, which he was not. Thus, Cloud fails. Oh, and the whole "Strong enemy manipulates crappy hero" has been done before. It's called FFIV.CLOUD WAS A CLONE WHO WAS BEING MANIPULATED BY SEPHIROTH
There are such things as boob-reductions. Or she could wear baggier clothing. Or just not show them off everywhere she goes...either or.Also, I am aboslutely sick of people calling tifa an anorexic slut...because, I have a question for you - is it HER fault if she has gigantic boobs?!!!!
iamhappy said:what the hell difference does it make? And monkeybutt, CLOUD WAS A CLONE WHO WAS BEING MANIPULATED BY SEPHIROTH... AND one of his best friends was murdered in front of his eyes....AND the world is being destroyed by an evil corporation that he's desperately trying to stop, but there's only so much one man can do. I hardly think you would be a joy to be around if you had all that shit going down in your life. Why is everyone so goddam hard on Cloud?
leikomfgztifaishawt said:Also, I am aboslutely sick of people calling tifa an anorexic slut...because, I have a question for you - is it HER fault if she has gigantic boobs?!!!! honestly, there's nothing she can do about it. And besides, how the hell is she a "plastic doll?" did you even bother listening to the conversations she had with the various characters, especially cloud?
i<3cloudsbigsword said:besides, garnet isn't exactly the strongest or most interesting main female lead....she kind of sucks, actually. At one point in the game, she ACTUALLY doesn't follow your commands in battles and "forgets to concentrate" because she's so distraught about alexandria - who's emo and useless now?
yaaaright said:They develop her personality plenty. They go into her and Cloud and their hometown and how Sephiroth destroyed it and all. There's not THAT much backstory for the ff9 characters either - each one has, like, a town on the map and a basic reason they hate Kuja/Brahne. Same as the ff7 characters - each one has a town, and a reason to hate sephiroth. that's usually all that characters get backstory-wise, so you can't really rag on ff7 for that.
dundundun said:The summonings in FFIX weren't even useful; there were so many stronger attacks to be used. I still like the overall battle system of FFIX better, though, simply because it's more polished and solid. But one thing that really ticked me off is when you fought those effing Yans on that island in the center of the map. They would snort at you and blow one of your characters away, and there was nothing you could do about it. Then you'd have one character left, and they'd give you a virus or do way too much damage with the spell comet.
Also, why did Steiner's ability called Thunder Slash (I think that was the name) always miss? Never once did I hit an enemy with that attack...
i lost respect in you said:oh yeah! i totally forgot about that but its so true. She never was a very good character to have in battle, but she was always getting captured too! I don't remember Tifa getting captured at all in ff7...and if she did it was certainly less than garnet did.
monkeybutt said:Cid: I beat my wife, and will probably beat my kids. I smoke alot, and am obsessed with planes. For most of the game I have no story use other then the fact that I drive your plane. For the first half of the game I am kickarshe, but I suddenly have a random revaltion, and in a snap my character suddenly changed to a goody too shoes. After that I once again become practically useless.
monkeybutt said:And the opinion against mines is coming from someone named after the subject?
Hikari44 said:honestly monkeybutt you are just a mindless cloud-hater and ff7-basher. All your arguments against the characters of ff 7 are just quotes you made up like "oooh look at me im so and so and i lack this and that and blah blah blah..." but those aren't valid arguments at all. You provide no examples from the game or anything substantial whatsoever to argue with, and this is why i do not take your opinion seriously whatsoever. At least the other people had SOME form of example to hold up their case. quite honestly I laugh at your ff9-worshipping, ff7-hating self because you are pretty incompotent at making other people see your opinion seriously.
MegaFlare said:FFVII's graphics were horrible, the tunes were repetitive and irritating, not very catchy. Different location music wasn't as great as the music of FFIX.
Hikari44 said:Exactly...the pro-Cid comment is coming for the person named after Cid, obivously. Duuhhhh...
honestly monkeybutt you are just a mindless cloud-hater and ff7-basher. All your arguments against the characters of ff 7 are just quotes you made up like "oooh look at me im so and so and i lack this and that and blah blah blah..." but those aren't valid arguments at all. You provide no examples from the game or anything substantial whatsoever to argue with, and this is why i do not take your opinion seriously whatsoever. At least the other people had SOME form of example to hold up their case. quite honestly I laugh at your ff9-worshipping, ff7-hating self because you are pretty incompotent at making other people see your opinion seriously.
Regardless of personal preference, it's not right to be able to make Yuffie a fighter (take for example, Yuna, if you must) people who physically and mentally wouldn't be capable of the skills they can do. It's a downfall.Hikari44 said:"As for the battle system, no one in FFVII was unique, because none of them had their own special class (ie: black mage, white mage, fighter) You could make Yuffie the fighter and Cloud the White Mage if you wanted, or Mix n Match"
The battle system depends on personal preference, though. Some people like having a pre-set job for each character and others like to make their own characters' strengths and weaknesses for each one. It's not necessarily a worse battle system that 9's, just a differently structured one.
Even with the graphics of FFXII, FFVII's FMVs would still be the worst because of the scenes they consisted of. Poor direction and dull scenes. This has nothing to do with the graphics of the FMVs, this is what the consist of. FFVII's were disappointing, especially the opening and ending.Once again, you need to consider the technology back then. It's an apples-oranges comparison to compare 9 and 7 graphics-wise because back when 7 was made they didn't have the means to make FMV's like in 9.
MegaFlare said:Regardless of personal preference, it's not right to be able to make Yuffie a fighter (take for example, Yuna, if you must) people who physically and mentally wouldn't be capable of the skills they can do. It's a downfall.
Hikari44 said:what? what do you mean "physically and mentally wouldn't be capable of the skills..."? You mean, like, in real life? This is a video game - it's all very unrealistic lol
Square Ninja said:o rly? Didn't you bash me for using this very arguement in the other thread in which had a similar debate? Apparently, you're awfully selective when it comes to this arguement.
shortythugsta said:what case??? im confused...........