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Rixie said:That sig is adorable!
Namine being on the Islands and Sora going ga-ga over her doesn't contradict anything; it just gave him a romantic interest in light of Riku being together with Kairi XD
Gah, just thinking how excellent a SoNami/RiKai combo could've been makes me furious in light of what we got instead SoKai being all but lacking, SoNami being wasted, and Riku ending up alone (because Xion disappeared until she'll come back as Aqua in KH3 in which case I call dibs on opening the Aqua/Riku FC >:3)
Post KH2 would be great for him to comfort her, yes. In a way, she's coming from where he already was, being at odds' ends with Sora on a lot of things, power and abilities being one of many.
I'd like to see her PoHness dealing with his Darkness.
In a way, I think that would've made me hate how they shove Kairi everywhere more XD if they'd have kept the words the same, of course.
My point exactly :3 Which is why I'm actually happy we got to see him so little in KH2, in light of how being seen is what all but killed Kairi and Sora x_X and I dare say even Namine. I donno, I liked her KH2 self a lot less than her CoM self, even at the end of it which was more KH2-like, but still different.
Whatever floats your boat :3
This just tied in with what I said above about Riku teaching Kairi how to fight. xD
I just might end up writing it, or at least plan something like it.
This reminds me of a story draft I wrote once, about how KH could still be KH with Kairi being the "Shadow" and Namine being the real Princess, going on a somewhat similar concept to yours :3 and a few random noob theories but oh well XD
See, Namine was the real girl on Destiny Islands, and she truly did disappear as Sora initially remembered (he later saw her on the Destiny Islands Memory World, but meh XD I already explained why I don't think that was too much towards the 'Kairi replacement' department - she didn't replace her, Kairi was just "Riku's" >:3). The reasons behind it can vary, seeing how Namine was not only a Princess of Heart - but also one with the strongest ties to the Keyblade Masters. Either kidnapped or pushed away willingly to keep both Sora and Riku safe, Namine disappeared, and erased herself from Sora and Riku's Memories.
Seeing however how dear they both held her, and how being Wielders and she was a PoH they had such a strong bond, and both had intensefully strong Hearts, not a Nobody was born, yet another being, truly being a Shadow - being Kairi.
Kairi was actually the longing in Sora and Riku's Hearts to have Namine back (since they knew something was missing, so they created something to lessen the loss), as well as Namine's regret for being forced to leave her home and loved ones behind.
As time went on, Kairi eventually made Sora and Riku want to make the raft and go on to other worlds - to them under the claim of wanting to find out more about her Home (she did appear out of nowhere on the night of the Meteor Shower, which was when Sora made his promise to Namine, and thus sealed her fate since going away to protect him was the least she could do - so Namine disappeared, making for Kairi's creation).
Kairi as a whole went inside Sora on the Night of the Storm, making for Namine - elsewhere - to collapse, making for the lifeless shell we see in KH1 :3 as KH1 went on, Sora kept seeing Kairi, who slowly became Namine over time as he began remembering her, and the question of who was he and Riku really fighting over was raised.
It's all but throwing CoM into KH1, I know, but it goes on from where, where Namine concludes to Riku that - seeing how Sora ended up being obsessed with her as he did in CoM - that it was best Sora forgot about her.
That leaves us with KH2, where it was Kairi who reached out to Roxas, doing again what she originally did - and reached out to "Sora" in Namine's stead, just like Namine wouldn't let herself do before she disappeared. That in turn mended the bonds Namine refused to remake with Sora, and let Sora eventually wake up - only DiZ still saw her as a threat due to her powers over Sora and Riku's Memories, and KH2 progressed on smoothly until it was really Namine that was kidnapped and who Riku saved, and then enter a joyous reunion for the three of them where Sora got to not only thank Namine, but be with her at the end <:
Kairi all along continues to be the Shadow that watches over the three, for that is the reason for which she was born - watching over Namine's smile, which was brightest when she was with Sora and Riku ^-^
*loves this*
*sigh*
I do that regardless, though I more see them as the cruel and ironic relationship where Sora's with Selphie because he can't bring himself to say no to her and thus break her heart, but that makes it all even worse :\
It wouldn't work in what I have planned, but it could make for a nice touch elsewhere regardless XD
It reminds me of my long-ass fic I had planned once going by the notion that Namine - being made more from Sora, was like a rejected transplanted organ and eventually was rejected from Kairi's Being, once again left to fend for herself. She awoke on Destiny Islands though, and it was Riku who conspired with Selphie and went as far as not only trap SoNami in the same cart on the ferris wheel, but ended up (accidentally but still) sabotage said ferris wheel to get the happy couple stuck at the top
Aww, that's a great sig Neo! I love it!
Our club should have a motto too: "Because it might as WELL be real!"
What we need to do is go back in time and convince Nomura and Watanabe that a SoNami/RiKai combo would've been awesome!
Mickey said it himself: in the KH universe, you can't have light without darkness. Riku and Kairi's love could've been a symbol of that! They come from opposite sides of the spectrum, but they can't live without each other. RiKai could've made for a fantastic couple in that aspect.
Well, who knows? We saw Riku on Destiny Islands in scans of Days, and Kairi's on Destiny Islands...maybe they'll get a scene together. At the very least, Xion wanted Riku to tell her more about his friends, so we might get some flashbacks. Watanabe's good with the flashbacks!
Well, obviously the dialouge would need to change a little bit to explain why Kairi's suddenly able to contact him from far away. Maybe because they're both longing to be reunited with their friends, so their hearts connect? But in that case, Kairi would still have to be informed of what was going on first, and then she could have the heart-to-heart (literally!) chat with Riku.
I like Namine in KH2. She was one of the few characters to treat Roxas kindly and give him the time of day. No wonder he was so happy to see her in the World That Never Was. And she saved Kairi; that was cool!
Yay! I want to read it; it sounds good!
And later on in the story, Riku realizes that besides seeking adventure, the real reason why he wanted to leave the Islands was to find Namine again.
I really like writing this SoRiKaiNami fic, but it's also driving me crazy because it will never measure up to some of the scenes Watanabe wrote. Curse him and his writing skills!
That's tragic. I like to think of them as being in a happy relationship because they both have these fun, free-spirited personalities.
Aww! You should make that into a one-shot!
MINE! D:<
"Because it's realer than the rest" '-'; sadly so. This beats even SoRiku.
I don't think Watanabe'll be that hard to convince neither would be whomever wrote the novels. What we do need is to assasinate Nojima.
Mmhm. I love that. Opposites attract and all that. SoNami have it too but in different ways. She's a Nobody that is as pure as an angel, and he's a tainted Keyblade Master constantly slipping away (Anti form <3)
He'd give her a meaning, be her own Proof of Existence (as was what she tried to do in CoM, actually, which puts her aside from the rest of the Nobodies - she didn't want to exist, she wanted someone else to acknowledge her Existence) and she'd be the light to keep him hanging on.
I still say no Kairi in Days :\ less so because of Kairi, more so because I believe more and more Xion is supposed to only appear to be Kairi related. Aqua seems far too detached from the whole mess and Xion seems far too Aqua related thus - she'd be kind of detached from Kairi as well.
Or they could've threw in the Light that threatened to eat Riku up somehow connected them, what with her being a PoH.
I still disagree with this since What I'm trying to do isn't rewrite the whole thing, only patch up the edges.
What I suggested - it being Namine that brought out Riku's concern and friendship towards Kairi - would've served that purpose while keeping the original context in tact.
True to both parts. I donno though, she just didn't feel as much Namine as she did in KH2. It was like... if I believe Watanabe'll turn Kairi into Xion/Aqua/Namine, then Nojima pulled Namine too much towards Kairi's attitude. It was OOC in a way, especially now that we see how she is in Days o_o she was just far too self confidence and secure, something which never was and never will be Namine, but is far more Kairi (and finally explains to me why I do support RokuKai. Because I liked Namine's behavior with Roxas, and she reminded me of Kairi in KH2 D: it finally fits)
I'm hard at work at it. Did I already say its name? D:
That's something from my fic too only I forgot to mention it :3 Kairi makes Sora and Riku leave under the pretense of finding her Home, but in fact, she's edging them to leave the Islands in search of Namine because Namine's loneliness was becoming excruciating in Castle Oblivion.
I'm driven insane more badly by the notion none of this would ever become real and we're stuck with Kairi the way she is today D:
Only for me to properly base Namine being there, it'd have to be long XD it would be cute though, Sora and Riku teaching her all about the world :3
Like the first time she ate Chocolate
*scribbles down a SoNami fic idea* +_+ inspiration.
Pick a random thing kids could do D: bunny me, c'mon.
Now, now, he didn't do a bad job with KH2.
*crickets chirp*
I'm in the minority about this one, aren't I?
Plus, Sora is so happy-go-lucky and boisterous, while Namine is timid and shy. He makes her feel more confident in herself (as we saw when she refused to keep helping Marluxia), and she can calm him down when he gets too overexcited.
Yes, but Aqua's significance mostly lies in BBS, as far as we know. They can't go around showing connections to the two of them, or it would be a big spoiler.
Besides, if they keep going to Destiny Islands, it's going to be hard not to include her. That's where she is. It doesn't have to be huge, it could just be Riku watching her from a distance.
True, and he didn't seem to find anything odd about her being there. Namine took that form because he knew he'd trust her if she did. So obviously there's some affection for Kairi there.
I guess Roxiri's a good complement to SoNami, but then it leaves us, once again, with Riku all alone.
No, you haven't. What's it called?
That would be cute! Of course, if you just want to write a one-shot, there's always two letters that come in handy: AU.
Well, ok, here's one that I thought of for Valentine's Day, but I couldn't think of how it would end for the life of me. It's February, and Riku and Kairi are dating, but Kairi can't stop thinking about Sora. This is very frustrating to her, because she already knows that she only likes him as a friend, and she doesn't understand why a part of her feels sad when she's kissing Riku. It's because Namine loves Sora. I just don't know how it would go from there without being tragic!
*bitchslap* D:< YOU AND YOUR SILLY IDEAS!
Mmmyeah. Notice that other FC in my signature? The one not for any couples? Get my drift?
While with RiKai it's the opposite XD
But yes. Sora offers Namine the Energy and Joy while she offers him Serenity and Comfort. They work so ridiculously well together ;;
I think that more than affection, it's like "oh lookie, the PoH that is already involved ridiculously in the entire mess is here to guide me out. Why am I not surprised?"
Also, it could've truly been more like in the manga, where there wasn't anyone there, rather a voice. To make Riku to feel a bit more relaxed in light of someone he at least recognizes, he 'saw' Kairi, but without her being there. If it was a hallucination, and an obvious one at that, he'd accept it without even being too close to her.
Well, that's the thing - SoNami don't have to come as a pair. Namine went the distance already, remember? Sora's false Memories had a part dedicated specifically to SoRiNami. That's the true beauty of it, the original designed relationship structure, and the true reason why Riku didn't get a romantic interest -
Because KH is based on friendships, and trios.
So even if you were to take it beyond friendships, Riku wouldn't be 'alone'. He would still have both Sora and Namine around, either romantically (;; YES *cough*) or not. The kind of bonds they displayed between both Sora, Riku and Namine are ones that can live out even after and beyond romance.
One Piece gave it a good definition by using the term 'Nakama' - they're not family, yet they're far closer than friends. They're all but romantic partners in the sense they care so much for each other.
The physical aspect is optional but isn't needed.
I think I'll let you guess >:3
Actually, SoNami has an amazing loophole available for that sort of thing XD I mean, they already based an AU inside the OU. I love them. I'm so gonna abuse it in a series of fics. One bunny is already hopping around in my mind.
That is actually a good bunny o.o I'm calling dibs on it.
In a way, I actually like that better, that he's hallucinating, and who does he think of when he believes that all is lost? Kairi.
And that would work, except that we see a glimpse of Namine as Kairi talks to Riku, and she confirmed that it was her when Riku asks her.
Yeah, I like the friendship theme! I think, in a way, they really are like family, not biologically, but they'd sacrifice themselves and do anything for each other. In fact, all the friendships in KH are like that: Sora, Riku, and Kairi; Sora, Riku, and Namine; Roxas and Namine; Roxas and Axel; Sora, Donald, and Goofy; Leon, Yuffie, Aerith, and Cid; Sora and Winnie the Pooh...the list goes on.
"I Hate Kairi But I Thought I'd Give This a Shot Anyway"?
Exactly. You could even say that it was a memory that Namine created for Sora during Chain of Memories.
Oh, I never said Riku saw it like that. That was still Namine donning Kairi's form, only not presenting herself as actually there to make it somewhat more believable.
Kairi is a PoH after all, and Riku later one seemed hardly surprised to meet Namine and connect the two. It's likely he didn't believe it really was Kairi, but the familiar face was sufficient.
Throwing back the guilt issue, Kairi disappeared on him in the Destiny Islands Memory World and he took it hard in light of all he did to her. Her showing up then might not be really him being close to Kairi as much as him taking it as a sign that somewhere out there, possibly, he was ever so slightly forgiven, which ties in with Namine's words telling him to accept both Darkness and Light.
But again, he hardly seemed surprised it was Namine and not Kairi, so it's not like he really thought it was her.
You forgot Riku and Mickey.
That's also why the Paopu fruit's legend is somewhat vague - it ties them together forever. It hardly needs to mean anything romantic, and it's Selphie that dictated it being as such. I doubt it really was supposed to be like that, and Riku and Sora having shared a Paopu at one point in their life would tie in with too much all around (before Kairi even made it to the Islands, which would explain at least Sora not remembering it since he was too young, while Riku had an extra year ahead and would've taken it more seriously in light of his jealousy and possessiveness issues).
BZZT.
We're discussing how awesome it would've been to have a SoNami/RiKai combo, and giving SA plot bunnies so she can write a SoNami fic!
She's tough enough to handle it, yet caring at the same time.
Actually, I didn't, but I figured I had made my point, so I stopped.
Though, if we want to look at it from a romantic perspective, Namine's good-luck charm looks awfully similar to a paopu fruit, wouldn't you say? It's like she symbolically shared one with Sora in the fake memory!
Just kidding!
I'm starting to suspect that you don't have one...