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New Nomura sketch commemorating Unchained X's 1st Anniversary!

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KINGDOM HEARTS Unchained X celebrates its 1st anniversary today in Japan! To commemorate, Director Tetsuya Nomura has sketched a special piece of artwork, featuring Ephemer, Skuld, Ventus, and two mystery characters.

He also includes a message, thanking players for supporting the game through to its anniversary and hopes everyone is enjoying the latest updates.

Who do you think the mystery characters are? Let us know!

Source: KHUX_PR

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BlackOsprey

September 3, 2016 @ 03:49 amOffline

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No-pauldron Ventus makes yet another UX-related appearance. Something's sketchy about this, and it's not just the art style...

The_Echo

September 3, 2016 @ 03:56 amOffline

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Player
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Ventus

I wonder why there are a couple of unfinished figures in the sketch

Dandelion

September 3, 2016 @ 04:02 amOffline

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If the other two are Roxas and Xion and this is all happening in Sora's heart I will SOB.

Xera Highwind

September 3, 2016 @ 04:11 amOffline

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I believe the "mysterious unfinished characters" are supposed to be other generic Keyblade wielders from their gathering with Ava. If so, that should confirm Ven being the player.

Luxu

September 3, 2016 @ 04:20 amOffline

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Can't tell if Ven is Player, or just Dandelion.

Wait, if Ven is the Player why is he so weak?

I am also concerned of where that Chirity went, and I think those two figures could be Aqua and Terra (If Ven is in it at least, or perhaps other important Dandelions, or just important characters to the narrative of Chi. So one might be Sora, because Serect Episode.)

Wait if the Player awoke in the RoS, in present time how could they be Ventus? Loopholes? Then again, being right next to Ephemera and Skuld who are the poster children for the Dandelions is a bit odd. Also they have matching jackets!

Taochan

September 3, 2016 @ 04:36 amOffline

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Tinny
If the other two are Roxas and Xion and this is all happening in Sora's heart I will SOB.

Damn Tinny.

Damn.

Roxie1563

September 3, 2016 @ 04:45 amOffline

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Dang, that art work looks so fantastic!

Any chance I can get this in color for me as a change in avatar/signature?? :D

stareyedprince

September 3, 2016 @ 04:48 amOffline

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Those WIP characters are either the default avatars, previous characters like Terra or Aqua, OR they're completely new. Either way hopefully we'll get to see the finished sketch sometime soon.

I'm still wondering whats the deal with Ven. My guess is that we simply run into him during his 10 year sleep, but at this point anything's possible.

Luxu

September 3, 2016 @ 04:52 amOffline

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stareyedprince
Those WIP characters are either the default avatars, previous characters like Terra or Aqua, OR they're completely new. Either way hopefully we'll get to see the finished sketch sometime soon.

I'm still wondering whats the deal with Ven. My guess is that we simply run into him during his 10 year sleep, but at this point anything's possible.


The Daybreak Trio are most likely in the Realm of Sleep (Like the Player) So perhaps they just meet an become great friends, and maybe Ventus steals one of Ephemera's spare jackets

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ultima-demi

September 3, 2016 @ 05:14 amOffline

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Assuming for a moment those two sketches are new characters.Always liked the idea of the other 2 Norns being characters in KH,making it Skuld's previous trio or something.

Alpha Baymax

September 3, 2016 @ 06:12 amOffline

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stareyedprince
Those WIP characters are either the default avatars, previous characters like Terra or Aqua, OR they're completely new. Either way hopefully we'll get to see the finished sketch sometime soon.

I'm still wondering whats the deal with Ven. My guess is that we simply run into him during his 10 year sleep, but at this point anything's possible.


I have a good feeling that he's a key Dandelion that completes the trio with Ephemera and Skuld. It's not like having a quad group is impossible (just look at Roxas, Hayner, Pence and Olette). The key mystery is, what's Ventus relevance in all of this...

Luxu

September 3, 2016 @ 06:17 amOffline

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Alpha Baymax
I have a good feeling that he's a key Dandelion that completes the trio with Ephemera and Skuld. It's not like having a quad group is impossible (just look at Roxas, Hayner, Pence and Olette). The key mystery is, what's Ventus relevance in all of this...


He might help the Daybreak Trio out of the RoS, or maybe in Unchained he took the place of the Player.

(While the Player was inside the RoS)

But the bond Ephemera, Skuld, and the Player have, is not going to be easily beat. I really don't see why Ephemera and the Player became best friends after like an hour...

ShardofTruth

September 3, 2016 @ 06:21 amOffline

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Tinny
If the other two are Roxas and Xion and this is all happening in Sora's heart I will SOB.

There is an apocalypse in Sora's heart and everyone is invited? No wonder he doesn't feel well in DDD.

Luxu

September 3, 2016 @ 06:24 amOffline

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ShardofTruth
There is an apocalypse in Sora's heart and everyone is invited? No wonder he doesn't feel well in DDD.


Sora's heart is a freakin nuclear war. Not to mention Roxas and Ventus are controlling Sora's emotions

Dandelion

September 3, 2016 @ 06:27 amOffline

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Just sayin, it's not impossible that Ansem's data that was in Sora's heart contained the unchained realm =P

(I'm mostly messing)

Luxu

September 3, 2016 @ 06:30 amOffline

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Tinny
Just sayin, it's not impossible that Ansem's data that was in Sora's heart contained the unchained realm =P

(I'm mostly messing)


Yes, Sora is TOTALLY connected to Empherea, Skuld, and the Player. Unless Ven is a Dandelion

DarkGrey Heroine

September 3, 2016 @ 07:33 amOffline

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Woa.
Well, we don't know who or how Ventus was before Xehanort found him, or...how much did he live before...
Never thought the plot would give him once again more debate material. I dont mind, but I sure am surprised of this context

catcake

September 3, 2016 @ 07:43 amOffline

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I think Ven is probably a Dandelion. Also, I do kind of feel that the data Ansem put in Sora's heart has at least something to do with all this. In one way or another.

Luxu

September 3, 2016 @ 08:04 amOffline

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Why do people even think Ven is the Player anyway?

The Player has a Chirity and is in the RoS in the present

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Kokoko253

September 3, 2016 @ 10:43 amOffline

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Master Xehanort is over 60 in BBS and calls the same Keyblade War the Player participates in ancient. Ventus is about 12 when they meet. Unless Ventus time-traveled he is not the Player and not a Dandelion. Apparently, Chi takes place in the Data World, since Maleficient can acces it, and in the Realm of Sleep, because there are Dream Eaters. (By the way, is Chi.exe running on a computer in the RoS, or a computer is running Chi.exe, which takes place in the RoS?) The only way I can see a connection is Ventus's sleep. He is sleeping for 10 years, I guess in this time, he somehow entered the RoS where he somehow met the Dandelions and we will meet him in Unchained season 2.
Aqua got a game on her 10 years and Ventus might get one in the form of Unchained. I wonder if Terra gets something. Like Kingdom Hearts Poker, the Casino is Terra's heart and you can play against Xehanort. You can use Eraqus to cheat and look at some of Xehanort's cards.

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Curic21

September 3, 2016 @ 11:17 amOffline

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Luxu
Why do people even think Ven is the Player anyway?

The Player has a Chirity and is in the RoS in the present


Maybe cuz everything points in that direction. A think that is obvius all the plot in this game is happening in Ven's dream. I mean, for we know Xehanort could have been in the ancient war and He met Ven from before BBS. Also we dont know any memory from Ven before BSS and besides, what a coincidence the only one character in the present who is sleeping is Ven when UX is happening in the realm of sleep.

Maybe the theory for now has some plot holes but is the most coherent one by far.

catcake

September 3, 2016 @ 11:24 amOffline

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It's been so long since I last played BBS, so I've kind of forgotten what happened to Ven but... he fought Vanitas and sacrificed himself or something, and then his heart went to Sora? And then Aqua took him to the Castle Oblivion which she created, right? So is Ven's heart still inside Sora as of, let's say, the end of DDD which is the latest point in the timeline we can confirm right now? If so, then I guess that could somehow connect Sora to all this too.

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Karrawong

September 3, 2016 @ 11:39 amOffline

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Curic21
Maybe cuz everything points in that direction. A think that is obvius all the plot in this game is happening in Ven's dream. I mean, for we know Xehanort could have been in the ancient war and He met Ven from before BBS. Also we dont know any memory from Ven before BSS and besides, what a coincidence the only one character in the present who is sleeping is Ven when UX is happening in the realm of sleep.

Maybe the theory for now has some plot holes but is the most coherent one by far.


In the end it's still a theory. Though there isn't many things that point away from the theory being probable at the moment, that doesn't mean it is bound to happen (look at the rebirth theory, it was good when we didn't have much info but as more was revealed it was pulled to pieces). I'm not keen on Ven being the player in khx or khux but if it turns out he is the player then it might make for some interesting development for Ventus in kh3.

Also is it just me or does Ven look younger then Ephemer and Skold?

kirabook

September 3, 2016 @ 12:06 pmOffline

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*takes a deep breath*
All these Ven teasing is hurting me.

I'm not sure if Ven is the player, and of course, we're no where near confirming that Ven is a dandelion... but this is the second time now that Nomura has drawn in in close proximity on purpose. He even mentioned him recently. I don't know...

I feel as though this is pre-BbS Ven still.

Hirokey123

September 3, 2016 @ 12:10 pmOffline

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Hrm...if Ven is a dandelion that would confirm that the dandelions only got released a bit before BBS. Since that would be when he is freed from stasis and starts to age again.

Plot twist chi was all a dream of Ventus. It did happen but what we have been seeing is Ven's dream. His memory never full repaired itself after he lost it, but the memories of his past wouldn't be gone they would like surface temporarily while he sleeps. After all dreams hold their memories, kind of like how Sora experienced a hodgepodge of his own memories every time he slept.

Alpha Baymax

September 3, 2016 @ 12:21 pmOffline

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Hirokey123
Plot twist chi was all a dream of Ventus. It did happen but what we have been seeing is Ven's dream. His memory never full repaired itself after he lost it, but the memories of his past wouldn't be gone they would like surface temporarily while he sleeps. After all dreams hold their memories, kind of like how Sora experienced a hodgepodge of his own memories every time he slept.


Whoa, I'm liking this theory... but then that begs the question, who is Ventus and what is his role in the "dream"?

kirabook

September 3, 2016 @ 12:23 pmOffline

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I don't think all of the dandelions get released at once. I think they get released at their own rate. If the theory that the dreams are layered is true, they'd 'reach the surface' at different times depending on their progress.

Alpha Baymax

September 3, 2016 @ 12:26 pmOffline

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kirabook
I don't think all of the dandelions get released at once. I think they get released at their own rate. If the theory that the dreams are layered is true, they'd 'reach the surface' at different times depending on their progress.


I like where this is heading, however, I really don't think that the rest of the Dandelions will be as anywhere as developed or lore relevant to Kingdom Hearts as Ephemer and Skuld (and possibly Ventus).

catcake

September 3, 2016 @ 12:32 pmOffline

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The way Ven is portraid in the pictures so far, he seems to be a group together with Ephemera and Skuld, so it makes me feel he's more in the same situation/position with them, rather than being the one who's dreaming it all. It's interesting to see where this goes, but I somehow feel that Ven is just a dandelion like the rest of them. Whether or not he knew Xehanort in the past, of if he was just found by him after he awoke from the sleep though... who knows.

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Curic21

September 3, 2016 @ 01:09 pmOffline

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catcake
The way Ven is portraid in the pictures so far, he seems to be a group together with Ephemera and Skuld, so it makes me feel he's more in the same situation/position with them, rather than being the one who's dreaming it all. It's interesting to see where this goes, but I somehow feel that Ven is just a dandelion like the rest of them. Whether or not he knew Xehanort in the past, of if he was just found by him after he awoke from the sleep though... who knows.


Think about it. If this is Ven's Dream is because he has memories from the war. And if he has memories from the war its because he was there. Nomura sketching Ven with Ephemera and Skuld like if they were related somehow leads us to the player in Xi. Te main trio in the game are those three. And in the sketch the trio are Ven, Ephemera and Skuld.

Soo I keep thinking that all that we know for now, leads to Ven being Sleeping and remembering his lost memories from the past, and the player being Ven in those memories replaced by esthetic stuff.

Sorry if my English its not good enough and I cant explain myself good. Im from Spain :P

ImVentus

September 3, 2016 @ 01:11 pmOffline

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This is a great time to be a Ven fan:biggrin: so much potential for character development and explanation of his past.

gosoxtim

September 3, 2016 @ 02:35 pmOffline

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i dont know if you guys mention this yet there are five people in the drawings like they repesent the five unions in a way two mystery might be acer ursus union and anguis invi union while ven repesent gula Leopardosunion, skuld repesent ava vulpes union, and ephermer repesent ira Unicornis union i'm talking about there peronality and not which they are actually in

five people five unions

DefiantHeart

September 3, 2016 @ 03:00 pmOffline

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Aw, even his sketches are better then mine. :3 Not that I draw good or anything... I kinda think the two unfinished drawings might be a female and male version of the player. Though idk... it's always hard to include the player in concept art, as they could technically be anyone. It's a measure of one's creativity though... wonder how far Nomura will go with the player possibly being in KH. Still hoping for like a KH Virtual part where you as the player interact with the KH characters... but with current technology, it would be very limited interaction, mostly generic if it does happen. I hope someday though, we can interact with Sora and the others as if they were real, that would be cool. :3 Pokemon and KH irl interaction.... that would be a childhood dream come true. XD That would make it worth living all these years to me...

( I think one way it could be possible, is if Square hired people to play as Sora and the others... if that was the case, then irl interaction with no limitations could be possible... but those whom would play as them would have to be very convincing playing those roles...)

Sorakh212

September 3, 2016 @ 03:57 pmOffline

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There's definitely a lot of interesting theories, speculation, and conjecture going on this thread. I love it! There's definitely something to be said about having Ven in this art and I don't think it's a mere coincidence that Nomura would draw him that way or even at all for that matter. As for the two blank slots or characters I bet it has something to do with this aforementioned chapter two and my guess is Riku & Kairi might go there given how the art he's drawn for past anniversaries have had them in some way, shape, or form. I don't really know why they would be there or how even but it makes sense going with the themes of past artwork and what not. Guess we'll just have to wait and see if or where things go from here.

Ballad of Caius

September 3, 2016 @ 04:03 pmOffline

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Would be trippy if KHx is the War's recreation on the Tome; KHUx is the recreation on the Realm of Sleep; and KHUx Season II is the recreation on the data inside Sora's heart...! @_@

But I digress. Nomura once more included Ventus alongside Ephemera and Skuld. There is definitely something going on with those three. This begs to wonder, though, if they meet, will it be in past time, or present time...? Ventus could very well be an amnesiac Dandelion, or Ephemera and Skuld ended up meeting him in the RoS.

I dunno. Too many questions, and Nomura keeps making more pop-up with each story update and anniversary drawings, haha.

Sephiroth0812

September 3, 2016 @ 04:06 pmOffline

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Sign

KINGDOM HEARTS Unchained X celebrates its 1st anniversary today in Japan! To commemorate, Director Tetsuya Nomura has sketched a special piece of artwork, featuring Ephemer, Skuld, Ventus, and two mystery characters.


He also includes a message, thanking players for supporting the game through to its anniversary and hopes everyone is enjoying the latest updates.



Who do you think the mystery characters are? Let us know!


Source: KHUX_PR



Heh, looks like Ven's spikes got a little spikier again compared to the art on the x[chi]-card.

As for the other two "mystery" characters, maybe one of them is Maleficent as she's also supposed to play a rather important role in the "new developments" teased by Nomura.
The third one could then be Pete...or a Nort? Maybe Vanitas?

Xera Highwind
I believe the "mysterious unfinished characters" are supposed to be other generic Keyblade wielders from their gathering with Ava. If so, that should confirm Ven being the player.


Except that neither the Player nor Ephemer participated in that gathering with Ava, only Skuld was present among a bunch of other "generic" Dandelions.

Luxu
Can't tell if Ven is Player, or just Dandelion.

Wait, if Ven is the Player why is he so weak?


I'm really at a loss what it is with your constant stupid blabbering about now Ventus is apparently "so weak". That hasn't to do with anything discussed here nor is it even true in any regard so quit this shit!

stareyedprince
Those WIP characters are either the default avatars, previous characters like Terra or Aqua, OR they're completely new. Either way hopefully we'll get to see the finished sketch sometime soon.

I'm still wondering whats the deal with Ven. My guess is that we simply run into him during his 10 year sleep, but at this point anything's possible.


Terra and Aqua are of course also possible. Aqua gets "saved" by Terra's and Ven's Keyblades in the Realm of Darkness and is still firmly connected to them through her wayfinder. As the trailers for 0.2 show Aqua will encounter some illusions/memories etc. in regards to them on her journey.
Ven also still has his wayfinder so it is certainly possible that he will have some of that same stuff Aqua experiences as well.

Luxu
Why do people even think Ven is the Player anyway?


Because it is entirely possible perhaps? So far the "Player" is nothing but a faceless avatar that can have thousands of different faces and appearances.

kirabook
*takes a deep breath*
All these Ven teasing is hurting me.

I'm not sure if Ven is the player, and of course, we're no where near confirming that Ven is a dandelion... but this is the second time now that Nomura has drawn in in close proximity on purpose. He even mentioned him recently. I don't know...

I feel as though this is pre-BbS Ven still.


Nomura is definitely teasing for some story importance for Ventus that is somehow connected to the X[chi]-era, although in what manner is still completely up to debate.
This is only further strengthened by calling back into the mind that Ventus' awakening platform always had the Wastelands/Badlands as background, in both versions of the platform that exist. In the first without, in the second with the whole bunch of dead Keyblades.

VoidGear.

September 3, 2016 @ 04:26 pmOffline

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I...I kinda like it.
Can't say if I believe Ventus is the player or not, at least at this point.
Tbh when they included his armor as a nightmare in 3D I already suspected there'd be something up with him, even if those two things aren't really connected or anything.

JR199913

September 3, 2016 @ 05:49 pmOffline

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I think the two blank characters are supposed to represent us Players. One female and one male, blank because we can choose how we look so there is no definitive "character" for us.

As for the fact that Ventus is on the artwork, once again with Skuld and Ephemer. Well I still don't like the whole Dandelion theory, so for now I'm putting my Munny on the "he wandered into the RoS during his 10 year sleep" theory.

kirabook
I don't think all of the dandelions get released at once. I think they get released at their own rate. If the theory that the dreams are layered is true, they'd 'reach the surface' at different times depending on their progress.

Huh... I think this is the first part of the "Ventus is a Dandelion" theory I kinda like. Very interesting, because a thing that has been bugging me is, where are the other Dandelions if this theory is true. So that would explain that part.
ImVentus
This is a great time to be a Ven fan:biggrin: so much potential for character development and explanation of his past.

Meh... not really. Ventus is perfect the way he is. I'm afraid that this "deeper" connection, wich he apparently has, will make him one of those really complicated stupid characters. Like sure, there is potential for great character development, to make him even greater then he already was. But there is also a chance that they will screw this up and he becomes some stupid character. I don't want that happening to him.
gosoxtim
i dont know if you guys mention this yet there are five people in the drawings like they repesent the five unions in a way two mystery might be acer ursus union and anguis invi union while ven repesent gula Leopardosunion, skuld repesent ava vulpes union, and ephermer repesent ira Unicornis union

five people five unions

But it's been confirmed that Ephemer and Skuld are in the same Union :/

gosoxtim

September 3, 2016 @ 05:51 pmOffline

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JR199913
But it's been confirmed that Ephemer and Skuld are in the same Union :/
i mean there personality is simmiar to prevous union leaders

Luxu

September 3, 2016 @ 06:12 pmOffline

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What if the sketch is just people who are in the RoS? All info we currently have points to that, Ven has been inside the RoS for 10 years as of BBS ending. And Unchained is most likely a layer to the RoS where Skuld and Ephemera are

gosoxtim

September 3, 2016 @ 06:17 pmOffline

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Luxu
What if the sketch is just people who are in the RoS? All info we currently have points to that, Ven has been inside the RoS for 10 years as of BBS ending. And Unchained is most likely a layer to the RoS where Skuld and Ephemera are

isnt sora in the realm of sleep as of right now

Luxu

September 3, 2016 @ 06:19 pmOffline

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gosoxtim
isnt sora in the realm of sleep as of right now


No, but he did visit at the end of 3D

Alpha Baymax

September 3, 2016 @ 06:23 pmOffline

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gosoxtim
i dont know if you guys mention this yet there are five people in the drawings like they repesent the five unions in a way two mystery might be acer ursus union and anguis invi union while ven repesent gula Leopardosunion, skuld repesent ava vulpes union, and ephermer repesent ira Unicornis union

five people five unions


That's a very interesting analysis to point out. But didn't Skuld say that she joined a group that Ephemera joined? In that context, doesn't that make Skuld and Ephemera part of the same Union?

gosoxtim

September 3, 2016 @ 06:25 pmOffline

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Alpha Baymax
That's a very interesting analysis to point out. But didn't Skuld say that she joined a group that Ephemera joined? In that context, doesn't that make Skuld and Ephemera part of the same Union?
i meant there peonalaily like how skuld is simular to ava and ven is gula and ephemer is like ira

i odnt know it just a theroy

Sephiroth0812

September 3, 2016 @ 06:42 pmOffline

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Alpha Baymax
But didn't Skuld say that she joined a group that Ephemera joined? In that context, doesn't that make Skuld and Ephemera part of the same Union?


Not only are the Dandelions a group that goes beyond all the unions, it has also been shown and said that Ephemer is not bound to any of the unions at all.A
As you might recall, Ephemers "union" always differs depending on which union the player is.

And frankly, as I see it, for the bigger picture and the characters of Skuld and Ephemer themselves the five unions are completely meaningless.

Luxu

September 3, 2016 @ 06:55 pmOffline

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Sephiroth0812
Not only are the Dandelions a group that goes beyond all the unions, it has also been shown and said that Ephemer is not bound to any of the unions at all.A
As you might recall, Ephemers "union" always differs depending on which union the player is.

And frankly, as I see it, for the bigger picture and the characters of Skuld and Ephemer themselves the five unions are completely meaningless.


Is the main cast of characters in Chi in any union, after being called to join the Dandelion? Besides using it as a name sake?

kirabook

September 3, 2016 @ 06:57 pmOffline

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JR199913

Huh... I think this is the first part of the "Ventus is a Dandelion" theory I kinda like. Very interesting, because a thing that has been bugging me is, where are the other Dandelions if this theory is true. So that would explain that part.


That's always been a big part of my theory anyway. The idea came from Ava. Apparently Ephemera was "already close" and were were only just starting.... or something like that (when it comes to the "unchained". If the theory of Ven being a dandelion is true, there are probably still dandelions in that book, and there are dandelions who came out way before him.

If it's true that is.

Nomura seems to be making an effort to show that Ven is different from his BbS appearance too. No straps, no pauldron. Shorter hair.... although his hair hadn't changed in that 4 year time skip in BbS, his clothes certainly did.

Sephiroth0812


Nomura is definitely teasing for some story importance for Ventus that is somehow connected to the X[chi]-era, although in what manner is still completely up to debate.
This is only further strengthened by calling back into the mind that Ventus' awakening platform always had the Wastelands/Badlands as background, in both versions of the platform that exist. In the first without, in the second with the whole bunch of dead Keyblades.


I've been thinking a lot about the Badlands/Keyblade Graveyard. Before, I thought for sure that it was the same location as Daybreak Town, but it kind of seems like that isn't the case. If they aren't the same, that still brings the question of why that would be on his platform and if the platform really is just an "important place" to them.

And, I'm still not sure about Ven being the player. It could make sense... but I think it makes more sense that Ven was just the average dandelion and might not have known Ephemera and Skuld personally.

Sephiroth0812

September 3, 2016 @ 07:00 pmOffline

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Luxu
Is the main cast of characters in Chi in any union leading up to the Keyblade War? Besides using it as a name sake?


The "main cast" of characters (aka Sora & co, everyone from the other games) do not exist at the time leading up to the Keyblade War as they weren't even born back then so they can't be in any union at all.
And as I said it doesn't matter because the unions are not the point of this whole issue.
Nobody uses any union as "a namesake" so far, so I don't really get what you're talking about.


And, I'm still not sure about Ven being the player. It could make sense... but I think it makes more sense that Ven was just the average dandelion and might not have known Ephemera and Skuld personally.


It's all just theory and conjecture anyways so far, none has more credibility than the other at this point and while Ven's station featuring the Badlands/Graveyard does hint at a connection to that place in particular it doesn't indicate anything towards the era.
His placement alongside Skuld and Ephemera may also hint at a connection but it also doesn't need to be hinting particularily to the era they lived in either.
It is also completely possible that Ventus does not have a bond with Ephemer/Skuld from the past but that he forms one over the course of Unchained X Season 2 because he's somehow involved just like present-day Maleficent.

hemmoheikkinen

September 3, 2016 @ 07:00 pmOffline

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Ooh, that new Nomura artwork looks fantastic! Nomura, what are you teasing here? This is the second time Ven has appeared with stuff relating to Chi. It can not be a coincidence anymore at this point.

Luxu

September 3, 2016 @ 07:04 pmOffline

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Sephiroth0812
The "main cast" of characters (aka Sora & co, everyone from the other games) do not exist at the time leading up to the Keyblade War as they weren't even born back then so they can't be in any union at all.
And as I said it doesn't matter because the unions are not the point of this whole issue.
Nobody uses any union as "a namesake" so far, so I don't really get what you're talking about.


In Chi, the Chi era is KHX and KHuX. I am referring to the "heros" of that era of games, aren't they basically unionless when the Dandelions begin inviting people in?

Alpha Baymax

September 3, 2016 @ 07:12 pmOffline

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hemmoheikkinen
Ooh, that new Nomura artwork looks fantastic! Nomura, what are you teasing here? This is the second time Ven has appeared with stuff relating to Chi. It can not be a coincidence anymore at this point.


Nomura confirmed that Ventus is canon to the events of X/Unchained X. His purpose is the mystery we're solving and either Ventus being a Dandelion or the canon "player" character being Ventus seem to be the most plausible solutions so far.

Sephiroth0812

September 3, 2016 @ 07:16 pmOffline

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Luxu
In Chi, the Chi era is KHX and KHuX. I am referring to the "heros" of that era of games, aren't they basically unionless when the Dandelions begin inviting people in?


That's the whole point of why Ava did it in the first place, to have children beyond the unions.


And that they're unionless is important exactly how?
Skuld herself says it when that one wielder in browser chi askes her from which union she is:



Wielder B: Oh yeah? What Union are you from?
Skuld: That's completely irrelevant.




Alpha Baymax
Nomura confirmed that Ventus is canon to the events of X/Unchained X. His purpose is the mystery we're solving and either Ventus being a Dandelion or the canon "player" character being Ventus seem to be the most plausible solutions so far.


Nomura did not "confirm" anything in this regard.
The only thing Nomura did allude to was that both Ventus and Maleficent have something to do with "new developments" in Unchained X Season 2.

How you gather from this that Ventus is "confirmed" to be "canon" to the events of the era and has actually personally lived in/experienced the actual historical events is beyond me.
That's jumping to conclusions at its finest.

LightUpTheSky452

September 3, 2016 @ 07:59 pmOffline

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Hmm... Currently working on three theories about this. The first one is this:

Do you guys remember way back when in the Kingdom Hearts KH1 Ultimania, that Nomura said (or at least hinted at) that there were other Keyblade wielders (aside from Sora and Mickey, and Riku--I guess; since the Kingdom Key was originally meant for him) in other parts of the universe?

What if these people are Dandelions who were able to break through Unchained and enter the real world? And what if they're the same people Xehanort wants to assist him in recreating the Keyblade War? Because once they have the X-Blade, a door connecting all worlds will open, and Keyblade wielding warriors will flock to the Keyblade Graveyard to fight there. Yada yada ya.

...

Theory 2: Though I'll admit that this one has a lot of holes in it. This one's about how it could possibly make sense that Ventus is Player.

Okay, so we all know how at first Vanitas didn't have a face until Ven connected to Sora, right?

Well, what if Ventus also lost his face--because the damage of what had happened to his heart was so immense?

...At least maybe this happened in his idea of himself in his heart, because we clearly see him still with his face in certain cutscenes following his heart first being shattered (and who knows, maybe it's having connected to Sora that helps him keep his look physically, after something that traumatic happening to him?).

But roll with me here: What if Chi, or Unchained Key, or Season 2 (whichever) takes place in Ventus' dream, yes (or he wanders over there while dreaming), but during that short coma he entered after first meeting Eraqus, Terra, and Ven?

He ends up becoming Player, and the reason he doesn't have a set look is because his heart's so damaged, it can't focus on what he's supposed to look like in the dream?

So for this one moment, he's sharing this one thing with Vanitas and being featureless.

Yeah, this theory has a TON of holes in it--and it probably isn't true at all--but the fact that Vanitas at first didn't have a face, and so doesn't Player (at least not a consistent one) seemed like something that should at least be somewhat touched on here.

...

Theory 3:

One of those mystery people is Naminé.

One, because they sort of look like Dusks to me (and Naminé is a Nobody like those are).

And two, because she's a Nobody who has reached out and touched the hearts of people while they've been asleep. Sora, Ventus, maybe (because she seems to know about him in Coded, but then again: that seems as though it's more because she discovered him through Sora's memories, but didn't discover him himself, I'll admit).

But with the thing that Nomura did with Naminé at the concert, in trying to help Terra, I wouldn't be surprised if she's somehow connected to all of this. If she has reached out/is now reaching out to Ven, who may be a huge part of Chi, that is.

And Naminé's always been important in lining the pieces up, and explaining the plot, so I think her also being involved in Unchained Key S2 is possible.

And if Tinny is right, and all of this is all happening in Sora's heart, then it could even still be possible. Because Sora did create Naminé, so some piece of her might exist within his heart. He did see her while he was dreaming in DDD, after all.

Oh, and then there's the "Dreams hold our memories, sleep holds our dreams, and darkness--it holds our sleep" quote to consider. Naminé's a memory witch, who has put people to sleep and talked about (and coached people through) darkness before;)

catcake

September 3, 2016 @ 08:08 pmOffline

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How is it even possible that Namine talked to Terra, actually? How is she connected to him? Somehow through Ven's memories or...? I'm sure this has been discussed already, but I probably missed it since I haven't seen anyone talk about it.

gosoxtim

September 3, 2016 @ 08:15 pmOffline

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LightUpTheSky452
Theory 3:

One of those mystery people is Naminé.

One, because they sort of look like Dusks to me (and Naminé is a Nobody like those are).

And two, because she's a Nobody who has reached out and touched the hearts of people while they've been asleep. Sora, Ventus, maybe (because she seems to know about him in Coded, but then again: that seems as though it's more because she discovered him through Sora's memories, but didn't discover him himself, I'll admit).

But with the thing that Nomura did with Naminé at the concert, in trying to help Terra, I wouldn't be surprised if she's somehow connected to all of this. If she has reached out/is now reaching out to Ven, who may be a huge part of Chi, that is.

And Naminé's always been important in lining the pieces up, and explaining the plot, so I think her also being involved in Unchained Key S2 is possible.

And if Tinny is right, and all of this is all happening in Sora's heart, then it could even still be possible. Because Sora did create Naminé, so some piece of her might exist within his heart. He did see her while he was dreaming in DDD, after all.

Oh, and then there's the "Dreams hold our memories, sleep holds our dreams, and darkness--it holds our sleep" quote to consider. Naminé's a memory witch, who has put people to sleep and talked about (and coached people through) darkness before;)
what if sora in the realn as well the last thing of sora was heading back the dream realm for unfinshed business that when when he meet ven and the others

Alpha Baymax

September 3, 2016 @ 08:22 pmOffline

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Sephiroth0812
Nomura did not "confirm" anything in this regard.
The only thing Nomura did allude to was that both Ventus and Maleficent have something to do with "new developments" in Unchained X Season 2.

How you gather from this that Ventus is "confirmed" to be "canon" to the events of the era and has actually personally lived in/experienced the actual historical events is beyond me.
That's jumping to conclusions at its finest.


Well then, if Ventus is not directly affecting the events of Kingdom Hearts X/Unchained X then how else he supposed to be "alluded"? There's a difference between "jumping to conclusions" and "connecting the dots". I'm doing the latter because there's too many coincidences that makes Ventus presence in the X universe intentional.

And if Ventus was to only be alluded and not eventually confirmed to be present in the X/Unchained X storyline, why bother adding him in more than one promotional piece of artwork in the first place? And if you still believe that I am "jumping to conclusions", it's a very justified conclusion that I'm jumping to.

Sephiroth0812

September 3, 2016 @ 08:24 pmOffline

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But roll with me here: What if Chi, or Unchained Key, or Season 2 (whichever) takes place in Ventus' dream, yes (or he wanders over there while dreaming), but during that short coma he entered after first meeting Eraqus, Terra, and Ven?

He ends up becoming Player, and the reason he doesn't have a set look is because his heart's so damaged, it can't focus on what he's supposed to look like in the dream?

So for this one moment, he's sharing this one thing with Vanitas and being featureless.

Yeah, this theory has a TON of holes in it--and it probably isn't true at all--but the fact that Vanitas at first didn't have a face, and so doesn't Player (at least not a consistent one) seemed like something that should at least be somewhat touched on here.


I'll be honest and say that isn't even that much of a farfetched idea as it may sound in the first place.

When Ventus first came to Eraqus he obviously had his physical appearance intact, Terra, Aqua, Eraqus and Xehanort could all clearly see he's a blond boy with Chocobo-hair, thus his heart maintained the physical appearance. But his mind was literally nearly shattered and as Eraqus states to Terra after Ven collapses in pain due to "question overload" he doesn't remember anything beyond his own name.

In the BBS Ultimania Nomura states that while Sora saved and stabilized Ventus' broken heart, it was still not really healed and "not fully formed" according to Nomura's exact words.
Ventus recuperated over the four years between his arrival at Land of Departure and the beginning of BBS proper under the care of Eraqus, Terra and Aqua, forming very close bonds with their hearts in the process.

Dreams are not always meant to make sense and this combined with the still pitiful state of Ventus' heart could indeed open up the possibility that he experiences all these strolls into the events of chi during the coma he was in before BBS and constantly changes appearance because of his still damaged mind at the time. Even when he wakes after some time in that flashback of Aqua, his eyes are still pretty "lightless" and there is no guarantee that he didn't collapse a second or even third time during that four-year period he had to recuperate.
Being at LoD might actually also play a role in this since it cannot be completely ruled out that the world holds one copy of the BoP.

Alpha Baymax
Well then, if Ventus is not directly affecting the events of Kingdom Hearts X/Unchained X then how else he supposed to be "alluded"? There's a difference between "jumping to conclusions" and "connecting the dots". I'm doing the latter because there's too many coincidences that makes Ventus presence in the X universe intentional.

And if Ventus was to only be alluded and not eventually confirmed to be present in the X/Unchained X storyline, why bother adding him in more than one promotional piece of artwork in the first place? And if you still believe that I am "jumping to conclusions", it's a very justified conclusion that I'm jumping to.


He's alluded to play some role in regards to possibly Unchained X Season 2, which can just as easily be a scenario to intentionally connect the cast of X[chi], namely Ephemer and Skuld as they're the ones depicted with him, to KH III. It does not in any form suggest a direct participation of Ventus in the actual events of the original Keyblade War or any of the historical events from that era.
Maleficent is also obviously having a presence there but she also wasn't present for the original events.
Ventus does not have to be the Player nor one of the Dandelions to actually play a central role in whatever Unchained X Season 2 is about.
Sora in DDD also participates in events in worlds of the past without actually having experienced the very original events as the sleeping worlds only repeat them.

You're misunderstanding my reasoning. I am not arguing about Ventus' presence in the storyline being jumping to conclusions, but the reasons given for his presence there. Ventus + Ephemer + Skuld =/= they all originate from the X[chi] era. Ventus being from that era (be it Player or Dandelion) is not mandatory in order to form a connection between these three.


Moving away from KHUχ for a little, there was the 'Ventus' I drew for the KHχ 3rd anniversary card, and the 'Maleficent' that appeared in the KHχ Special Episode who left some deeply meaningful words. I hope these all clued you into the new developments that will be starting soon.


Here Nomura not only speaks about "moving away from KHUx a little", he also explicitly mentions both Ventus and Maleficent in the same vein, hoping that these may clue us in into new developments that haven't started yet and these new developments can very likely be establishing connections between the present-time and the characters from X[chi], with both Maleficent and Ventus being representatives of the present-time and thus the ones who will connect the whole x[chi] storyline with KH III.

LightUpTheSky452

September 3, 2016 @ 08:50 pmOffline

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Oh, wow. Thank you so much for the amazing reply to my theory, Sephiroth! I'm glad you liked it!

And now I'm glad that I even typed it up, as I had been thinking about just deleting the whole thing--when I had only had a few words down in my response, while thinking about the possible ramifications of said post.

But thanks a bunch for the vote of confidence! It means a lot!:D

Tbh, I do still think it's the one of my three ideas that has the most holes, but I guess I really need to remember how weird dreams can be, huh? Which could contribute to some of those strange things going on...

If Ventus being the Player is a thing that's even going on at all, that is (which it probably isn't, but for now we'll theorize what's going on with Ven until we can get a more clearer picture of what's really transpiring with him). :)

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Ven_Roxas

September 3, 2016 @ 09:31 pmOffline

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I have one issue with Ven being in the realm of sleep. How? At the end of DDD, Riku dove into Sora's dream (which is contained inside Sora's heart meaning not connected to the realm of sleep) and we clearly saw Ven (along with Roxas and Xion) inside Sora's heart. So he can't be in the realm of sleep.

palizinhas

September 3, 2016 @ 09:37 pmOffline

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LightUpTheSky452
Theory 3:

One of those mystery people is Naminé.

One, because they sort of look like Dusks to me (and Naminé is a Nobody like those are).

And two, because she's a Nobody who has reached out and touched the hearts of people while they've been asleep. Sora, Ventus, maybe (because she seems to know about him in Coded, but then again: that seems as though it's more because she discovered him through Sora's memories, but didn't discover him himself, I'll admit).

But with the thing that Nomura did with Naminé at the concert, in trying to help Terra, I wouldn't be surprised if she's somehow connected to all of this. If she has reached out/is now reaching out to Ven, who may be a huge part of Chi, that is.

And Naminé's always been important in lining the pieces up, and explaining the plot, so I think her also being involved in Unchained Key S2 is possible.

And if Tinny is right, and all of this is all happening in Sora's heart, then it could even still be possible. Because Sora did create Naminé, so some piece of her might exist within his heart. He did see her while he was dreaming in DDD, after all.

Oh, and then there's the "Dreams hold our memories, sleep holds our dreams, and darkness--it holds our sleep" quote to consider. Naminé's a memory witch, who has put people to sleep and talked about (and coached people through) darkness before;)

That does seem possible. I mean, Sora doesn't actually see her in DDD, he sees Xion AS Naminé, the reports say that it wasn't Naminé at all, but that is a bit of an unimportant detail, as they are still heavily connected. And even if she's entirely in Kairi's heart, the way Roxas and Naminé talk about seeing each other whenever Sora and Kairi are together means there is still at least some connection between hearts there. So it's possible she'd be able to reach Ventus even while inside Kairi.

And honestly, Naminé being involved in things at all is always fun, even if I... disagree with some of the ways they have done it. I still worry about Ven being involved at all and I don't care anywhere near as much about him.

Sephiroth0812

September 3, 2016 @ 09:51 pmOffline

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LightUpTheSky452
Oh, wow. Thank you so much for the amazing reply to my theory, Sephiroth! I'm glad you liked it!

And now I'm glad that I even typed it up, as I had been thinking about just deleting the whole thing--when I had only had a few words down in my response, while thinking about the possible ramifications of said post.

But thanks a bunch for the vote of confidence! It means a lot!:D

Tbh, I do still think it's the one of my three ideas that has the most holes, but I guess I really need to remember how weird dreams can be, huh? Which could contribute to some of those strange things going on...

If Ventus being the Player is a thing that's even going on at all, that is (which it probably isn't, but for now we'll theorize what's going on with Ven until we can get a more clearer picture of what's really transpiring with him). :)


No issue, it is really a point that can be used to further this particular theory. ^__^

I wouldn't say holes, but it is certainly the one with the most unorthodox approach as it would put the whole Unchained X storyline and whatever Ven's contribution to it is in the time period from 4 years before to the begin of BBS itself instead of the actual present (after DDD) or even the deep past of the x[chi]-era itself on which most theories base their predictions.

Like said with our current knowledge I see that all these theories have roughly the same plausibility and possibility. There isn't yet anything available that allows us to paint any of them as more probable or less probable than the others except personal bias.

The idea with Naminé is also intriguing concerning the mystery characters as if I recall correctly Nomura said something about different instances of the concert having different surprises.
Heck, there might even be a connection between Ven/Maleficent and Unchained X Season 2 and BBS 0.2 somehow.

Ven_Roxas
I have one issue with Ven being in the realm of sleep. How? At the end of DDD, Riku dove into Sora's dream (which is contained inside Sora's heart meaning not connected to the realm of sleep) and we clearly saw Ven (along with Roxas and Xion) inside Sora's heart. So he can't be in the realm of sleep.


Except that Sora's heart was connected to the Realm of Sleep as it itself was sleeping until Riku woke it up.
Ventus' actual essence being inside Sora's heart does not rule out him himself dreaming and entering the Realm of Sleep through different means.
Technically, Ventus already was in the Realm of Sleep the whole time Sora was in it during DDD as well because Sora carries his heart. It was shown in the end of DDD that Ventus smiled because he felt Sora's happiness with the Dream Eaters. That does not only prove that Ven's heart still has a connection with its body but also that he can access the Realm of Sleep via his connection to Sora.

Young Xehanort, Xemnas and Xigbar also repeatedly tried to stir Ven's heart within Sora over the course of DDD from within the Realm of Sleep so that's another point that goes for there being a connection.

And last but not least, Ventus' heart is sleeping since ten years and while part of that time was certainly needed to heal his badly damaged heart, there is also enough leeway for him to have accessed the Realm of Sleep somehow.

Riku meeting a projection of Ventus at the core of Sora's heart only proves that Ventus is not wandering the RoS at the particular point in time Riku makes his visit.

FudgemintGuardian

September 3, 2016 @ 10:12 pmOffline

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Curse you Nomura and your teasing!
Man, Ventus looks so young in this. He looks like how he should have..during BBS's...flashbacks...
Those two mystery characters has my curious of course. Neither of them are stupid-shaped so it's not Terra, and it looks like Nomura was already starting to draw the hair of the one right next to Ven.

Screw it, I'm saying it's Ava and Luxu because why the heck not.

Oh, and by the way:

I thought that sleeve was a boob at first XD

LightUpTheSky452

Theory 2: Though I'll admit that this one has a lot of holes in it. This one's about how it could possibly make sense that Ventus is Player.

Okay, so we all know how at first Vanitas didn't have a face until Ven connected to Sora, right?

Well, what if Ventus also lost his face--because the damage of what had happened to his heart was so immense?

...At least maybe this happened in his idea of himself in his heart, because we clearly see him still with his face in certain cutscenes following his heart first being shattered (and who knows, maybe it's having connected to Sora that helps him keep his look physically, after something that traumatic happening to him?).

But roll with me here: What if Chi, or Unchained Key, or Season 2 (whichever) takes place in Ventus' dream, yes (or he wanders over there while dreaming), but during that short coma he entered after first meeting Eraqus, Terra, and Ven?

He ends up becoming Player, and the reason he doesn't have a set look is because his heart's so damaged, it can't focus on what he's supposed to look like in the dream?

So for this one moment, he's sharing this one thing with Vanitas and being featureless.

Yeah, this theory has a TON of holes in it--and it probably isn't true at all--but the fact that Vanitas at first didn't have a face, and so doesn't Player (at least not a consistent one) seemed like something that should at least be somewhat touched on here.
Ven does look younger than how he does in BBS, and I like this theory a lot too!

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Karrawong

September 3, 2016 @ 11:44 pmOffline

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I think it is possible for a character that lived in the chi era could in fact still be alive in the present day.

The original X blade had to be destroyed by someone and in BBS the X blade's destruction (even if it was incomplete) didn't kill any of the characters. So if the original X blade was destroyed, would it have killed the remaining survivors of the keyblade war? If it didn't, it is possible that some of the survivors were thrown into to realm of darkness. In the realm of darkness time moves differently to the realm of light. Maybe a month or a year in the realm of darkness is equal to a hundred or even a thousand years in the realm of light.

The chi era world was enveloped by darkness at the end of the keyblade war. I think that it's possible that at least some of the survivors were thrown into the realm of darkness instead of being sent to a world in the realm of light. Maybe Ventus, if he came from the chi era, was in the realm of darkness for a time before being found by Xehanort?

I know the theory likely has a lot of holes in it. I just wanted to throw my two cents into the discussion :)

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Ven_Roxas

September 4, 2016 @ 02:21 amOffline

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I also had made a post elsewhere about how, if everyone's memories were effected by the keyblade war and they had forgotten about how the world was before it, then even if the keyblade war was a year ago, if no one remembers it first hand, it would be a legend in their perspective.

Dreaded_Desire62

September 4, 2016 @ 06:24 amOffline

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One of the mysterious figures makes me think of Absence The Wise when he disguised himself as DiZ for some reason. I am wondering why Ventus is in the sketch.

Ballad of Caius

September 4, 2016 @ 04:36 pmOffline

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Karrawong
I think it is possible for a character that lived in the chi era could in fact still be alive in the present day.

The original X blade had to be destroyed by someone and in BBS the X blade's destruction (even if it was incomplete) didn't kill any of the characters. So if the original X blade was destroyed, would it have killed the remaining survivors of the keyblade war? If it didn't, it is possible that some of the survivors were thrown into to realm of darkness. In the realm of darkness time moves differently to the realm of light. Maybe a month or a year in the realm of darkness is equal to a hundred or even a thousand years in the realm of light.

The chi era world was enveloped by darkness at the end of the keyblade war. I think that it's possible that at least some of the survivors were thrown into the realm of darkness instead of being sent to a world in the realm of light. Maybe Ventus, if he came from the chi era, was in the realm of darkness for a time before being found by Xehanort?

I know the theory likely has a lot of holes in it. I just wanted to throw my two cents into the discussion :)


There's a theory that suggests that the Realm of Sleep could be used as a time traveling mechanism. Maybe the MoM/Luxu are hiding in that Realm, waiting for the perfect moment to intervene...?

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Ven_Roxas

September 4, 2016 @ 04:42 pmOffline

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Ballad of Caius
There's a theory that suggests that the Realm of Sleep could be used as a time traveling mechanism. Maybe the MoM/Luxu are hiding in that Realm, waiting for the perfect moment to intervene...?


I might be wrong, but didn't Nomura say that X and unchained X would connect to post KH3? If so, maybe that idea connects to the villains after 3?

Ballad of Caius

September 4, 2016 @ 04:47 pmOffline

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Ven_Roxas
I might be wrong, but didn't Nomura say that X and unchained X would connect to post KH3? If so, maybe that idea connects to the villains after 3?


I don't remember, no. What I do remember is that he said that KHx's and KHIII's stories were being developed in parallel and that KH3 would use KHx's mythos.

Luxu

September 5, 2016 @ 02:51 amOffline

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[FONT="]I might be wrong, but didn't Nomura say that X and unchained X would connect to post KH3? If so, maybe that idea connects to the villains after 3?[/FONT]



A lot of people (Me included) think the Daybreak Trio is going to get involved with KH3 somehow, whether it be finding them to aid with the Guardians of Light and foil Xehanorts plan. Or learn the true history of the Keyblade War, as Xehanort lied to us or thought it was true (With his version)

And one of the biggest links is Ventus, he keeps appearing on artwork with the Daybreak Trio. Either, he is the Player or just a Dandelion that might have "admired" the Daybreak Trio. Or just some friend they meet in the RoS.

As for villains, the Maleficent we see in the special episode is the REAL DEAL.So its nice that we finally do justice to her as ourselves instead of Sora (Assuming, a big battle between them breaks out.)

Spikeyroxas

September 5, 2016 @ 01:20 pmOffline

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Maybe because in DDD sora went to the realm of sleep, and was put into a second sleep. The already connected-in-sleep ventus also went into a second sleep and Unchained X is his dream making him the player.
Afterall we already know that ventus is directly affected by Sora, since when Sora met up with his dream eaters at the end, it made Ventus smile in his sleep.

LightUpTheSky452

September 5, 2016 @ 09:04 pmOffline

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I just thought of another thing that could hint that Player's Ven, maybe.

I've been theorizing for a while now, that the way that the MoM was trying to get the X-Blade in Chi (or to perhaps make a replica of it that he could use for the same purpose) was by having the Keyblade wielders collecting lux but also unknowingly collecting guilt with that bangle, perhaps in equal shares.

So maybe he was going for the "equal parts light and darkness combined" approach that Master Xehanort was attempting himself in BbS.

And who else was a key component in a plot like that before--similar to how Player was quite a bit here? Oh, right. Ventus.

Dreaded_Desire62

September 5, 2016 @ 09:16 pmOffline

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Spikeyroxas
Maybe because in DDD Sora went to the realm of sleep, and was put into a second sleep. The already connected-in-sleep Ventus also went into a second sleep and Unchained X is his dream making him the player.
After all we already know that Ventus is directly affected by Sora, since when Sora met up with his dream eaters at the end, it made Ventus smile in his sleep.
It's very possible that Ventus might be the player and it would make sense.

Luxu

September 5, 2016 @ 11:51 pmOffline

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LightUpTheSky452
I just thought of another thing that could hint that Player's Ven, maybe.

I've been theorizing for a while now, that the way that the MoM was trying to get the X-Blade in Chi (or to perhaps make a replica of it that he could use for the same purpose) was by having the Keyblade wielders collecting lux but also unknowingly collecting guilt with that bangle, perhaps in equal shares.

So maybe he was going for the "equal parts light and darkness combined" approach that Master Xehanort was attempting himself in BbS.

And who else was a key component in a plot like that before--similar to how Player was quite a bit here? Oh, right. Ventus.


I doubt the Player was going to be used to forge the X-Blade, but the MoM did take extra steps for us by giving us two Chirithy. He was watching Ephemera and perhaps the Player. But the Player seems like a death weapon of sorts, being able to handle four of the Foretellers and still stand. So perhaps more exists to the Daybreak Trio than we know

BlackOsprey

September 6, 2016 @ 12:11 amOffline

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Luxu
But the Player seems like a death weapon of sorts, being able to handle four of the Foretellers and still stand.

Still stand? I'm pretty sure we saw the player fall over and nearly die.
Nevertheless, it is pretty impressive that the player was able to fend off four Foretellers in a row, with each one remarking about how strong of a wielder they were.

Dreaded_Desire62

September 6, 2016 @ 12:45 amOffline

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BlackOsprey
Still stand? I'm pretty sure we saw the player fall over and nearly die.
Nevertheless, it is pretty impressive that the player was able to fend off four Foretellers in a row, with each one remarking about how strong of a wielder they were.


Yeah, the player sure came a long way.

Luxu

September 6, 2016 @ 02:03 amOffline

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BlackOsprey
Still stand? I'm pretty sure we saw the player fall over and nearly die.
Nevertheless, it is pretty impressive that the player was able to fend off four Foretellers in a row, with each one remarking about how strong of a wielder they were.

Yeah, it's a big improvement of the "few days" before the Keyblade War when one strike from Aced knocked then out

Hallowseve

September 6, 2016 @ 05:33 amOffline

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Nomura is at it again with another great sketch. I personally hope the two masked characters are entirely new and we'll meet them later on in KHUX. Although, it they are new, I pray they make it into KHBCx somehow.

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