Jump Festa 2010 Official Discussion Thread! [TRAILER RELEASED]

[Apasstrife]

Re: Jump Festa 2010 Official Discussion Thread!

lol!!....didnt see it for the spoilers tags.....srry.....i didnt know it was lissar translation

 

[Yuuki]

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lol!!....didnt see it for the spoilers tags.....srry.....i didnt know it was lissar translation

its ok just check next time


does anyone else think ME is alive?

 

[Key]

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its ok just check next time


does anyone else think ME is alive?

well, if he was, don't you think he would've intervened in any of the later events? i don't think he's alive.

 

[SilentTrinity]

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ME is most likely not alive
unless he appears in KH3 then that would be just plain odd.
like where the hell where you for the last 11 years?
i was frozen or something else.
sigh ME is most likely gone

 

[Yuuki]

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well, if he was, don't you think he would've intervened in any of the later events? i don't think he's alive.

that means nothing, there was problems in bbs and we dont see him helping or doing anything, MX is stronger than TAV why would he send them instead of him going himself =/

he just doesnt fight, his a fat lazy bastard >.>

 

[Key]

Re: Jump Festa 2010 Official Discussion Thread!

that means nothing, there was problems in bbs and we dont see him helping or doing anything, MX is stronger than TAV why would he send them instead of him going himself =/

he just doesnt fight, his a fat lazy bastard >.>

LOL.....

well, we don't know, maybe he had to do something in LOD and he was too busy with other things so he HAD to sent TAV to do it....

 

[Nostalgia]

Re: Jump Festa 2010 Official Discussion Thread!

I'm wondering if there's something we can do to show people that these trailer impressions have been received and translated to prevent others from bringing it up again and again? The fact that it's shown at the beginning of the thread (and I'd imagine that it's also on the front page) doesn't seem to be helping. Maybe we should make a quick thread letting people know that we have it already.

As for my new quick theory, I have a couple ideas in mind to correlate to what we've been told along with others' theories.

I've been thinking about the whole 'blizzard vs any other spell' enigma. Now, this could be complete BS and too Sci-fi-influenced, but I'm wondering if the freezing allowed Ven to be preserved and kept alive. I'm also wondering why else we've been shown that he was frozen, but still alive in the original secret movie, and that he was recovered and brought to CO afterwords from the trailer impressions. As someone mentioned before, Master Sakaguchi could be referring to the newly transformed Xehanort (formerly known as Terra) and he may attempt to fight him. With that in mind, perhaps Aqua escapes to bring Ven to a secret place where Xehanort could never find him, the chamber of Waking in CO. If she is unable to retrieve Ven, his preserved body without a heart would remain in this chamber for years to come.

 

[JTD95]

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I found a very good description of the trailer at this site : Birth by Sleep Jump Festa 2010 Trailer!...Description! (Here there be SPOILERS!)
Don't know if this on has been posted here yet :/

[COLOR=#414141][FONT=Tahoma]DiZ is probably the one doing the narration...

DiZ: “Everything is born from sleep. Yes, even you...”
Ven is sleeping on a chair. We don’t know where it is, but is this the “Room of Awakening”?

Birth by Sleep

In Land of Departure Eraqus is speaking with Xehanort
Xehanort: “There is only a little that has come down to us about the Keyblade Wars. After the destruction creation slept. After the Keyblade Wars what slept? Are we destined to discover the light and be equal to it as it says in the legend? That is what I want to find out.”

In Land of Departure Terra and Aqua are trying to comfort Ven who looks depressed.
Terra: “My dream is to become a Keyblade Master.”
Aqua: “You mean it’s “our” dream, right?”
Terra: “Right. All of us. It’s our dream.”
Terra hands over a wooden keyblade. (On it is written “TERRA”)

In the Mysterious Tower Ven appears in front of Donald and Goofy
Donald: “Gaaaaaaaaaah!?”
Wrapped in light and unconscious [? maybe unconscious ‘fallen’] Ven us holding the King’s “star fragment” in his hand.
Donald: “The King!?”
Goofy: “Nope, doesn’t look like it.”

In Castle of Dreams Terra talks with the Fairy Godmother.
Fairy Godmother: “Terra, do you have a heart that believes in dreams?”

In Disney Town Captain Justice appears in front of Aqua.
Captain Justice: “Captain Justice at your service!”
Aqua: “Huh?” (cocks her head)

In Neverland Peter Pan appears in front of Ven.
Lost Boys: “Peter Pan!”
Peter Pan: “Who’s this?”

In Disney Town Terra seems to be asking Chip and Dale something.
Chip: “What are you doing!”
Dale: “That’s against the rules!”
Minnie: “No, I don’t think we can accept that...”

In Olympus Colosseum Zack asks Aqua out on a date.
Zack: “Hey, want to go on a date with me? Just one?”
Aqua: “I.. I...”
Aqua tries to decline.

In Dwarf Woodlands Ven is comforting Snow White.
Ven: “A heart that is scared will see illusions.”

In Olympus Colosseum Hercules talks with Terra.
Hercules: “Someday I’ll be a champ too, and then I’ll become a hero.”

In Deep Space Aqua gives 626 a charm.
Aqua: “This will be my connection to you.”
626: “?”
Aqua: “Will you be my friend?”

In Olympus Colosseum Hades tries talking to Terra.
Hades: “Why don’t you try controlling the darkness and becoming even more powerful?”

In Castle of Dreams, Ven and Jaq have made Cinderella’s dress.
Jaq: “Hurry! The ball is going to start soon!”
Cinderella: “Thank you so much.”

In Neverland Peter Pan hands Aqua a wooden keyblade.
Aqua: “This...”
Peter Pan: “Ven left that behind.”

In Dwarf Woodlands the Queen laughs as she makes Snow White eat the poison apple.

In Enchanted Dominion Terra seems to have realized something.
Terra: “What did you make me do!?”

In the wastelands Mickey stands over Ven, who has fallen.
Mickey: “A keyblade isn’t something you use to hurt people!”
He is pointing his keyblade at someone.

[Hikari plays]

Scenes from the opening movie and the Birth by sleep secret movie play.
- Terra and Aqua fight.
- Vanitas holds out his hand to Ven. (Reminiscent of the opening to KHII with Sora and Riku.)
- TAV look at the charm they hold in their hands.
- Three stained glass floors
- Ven is running. You can’t tell where, but afterward the darkness turns to light.
- Terra runs, in a place that looks like Castle Oblivion. Afterward the light turns to darkness.
- Aqua looks worried, holding her hands to her chest.
- Aqua then Terra then Ven fall with a lot of keyblades. Ven smashes the stained glass floor (Maybe the picture is Sora or Roxas?)

- Radiant Garden, Terra and Xehanort.
Xehanort: “Aqua and Ventus have light that is too strong, it will just make the darkness inside you more apparent.”

- In Land of Departure Eraqus asks something of Aqua.
Eraqus: “If the unthinkable happens and Terra really falls into darkness, bring him back to me immediately.”

Enchanted Dominion, Maleficent makes Terra’s darkness stronger.
Maleficent: “Look, look at the darkness that sleeps inside you.”

Land of Departure, Ven and Vanitas
Ven: “Who are you?”
Vanitas: “You’ll have to see for yourself, when Terra will stop being Terra.”

Radiant Garden, Xehanort speaks with Terra. They’re outside.
Xehanort: “You should know him, the masked boy. His name is Vanitas.”

Radiant Garden, Vanitas has fallen and Aqua gets close to him and tries to take off his mask.
Aqua: “Just who are...?”
Vanitas: “Hahahahahaha” (He suddenly starts laughing.)

Radiant Garden, Xehanort tries to get Terra to leave. They’re inside.
Xehanort: “Travel the worlds! And destroy that one who disturbed the balance, Vanitas!”

Mysterious Tower, Mickey and Yen Sid.
Yen Sid: “Mickey, it seems something terrible is going to happen.”

Wastelands, Xehanort and Ven who is holding his head, the King has fallen.
Xehanort: “You are losing [yourself?], you must take it all back, grab it anew!”

Unknown place, Someone is talking with Vanitas
??? (Xehanort?): “How is he, Ventus?”
Vanitas: “I must make him stronger.”
Vanitas holds his mask.

Destiny Island, Riku talks with Terra.
Terra: “Why do you want to go to other worlds?”
Riku: “I want to become stronger.”

Radiant Garden Aqua and the King have just save (?) Kairi.
Aqua: “I feel a light in this girl.”
The King: “There might be something special in this girl.”
Kairi just stares at them.

Radiant Garden, Ven runs past the two guardsmen.
Ven: “Leave him to me!”
Eleaus: “Wait!”
Dilan: “What can a child do!?”

Radiant Garden, Braig laughs slightly.
Braig: “You mean this kid is actually a pretty good keyblade wielder?”

Radiant Garden, Ven seems to have rescued Ienzo.
Even: “It seems we owe you thanks.”

Radiant Garden, Lea (Axel’s human) and a boy (Saix’s human, name unknown) are looking at Ven.
Boy: “Looks like you’re all ready to do it.”
Lea: “Of course, because we’re already friends. Got it memorized?”

Radiant Garden, the air is tense around Terra, Ven and Aqua.
Aqua: “I thought it when I saw you leave for other worlds. I thought you are getting too close to the darkness.”
Ven: “Aqua, what are you saying!? Terra wouldn’t...”
Terra: “So you’ve been watching me...”
Ven looks surprised, Aqua looks serious.

Birth by sleep Secret Movie, Aqua is glaring at someone, and Ven is covered in ice though he hasn’t given up yet.
“The bond of our hearts isn’t something that can be broken so easily by someone like you!”

Land of Departure, Eraqus is pointing his keyblade at someone.
“You shouldn’t exist!”

Battle, Minigame, Multiplayer
Style Change “Wing Blade” “Ice Blast”
Shoot Lock “Ultima Cannon” “Multi Vortex”
D-LINK “Donald”
Command Board “100 Acre Wood” “Disney Town” “Land of Departure”
Land of Departure special move “Keyblade Ride”, allows you to move where you want.
Etc.

Narration and scenes from the BbS secret movie.

DiZ: “The world has been almost been swallowed by darkness many times, but always a keyblade wielding boy has come to save it.”
- Land of Departure is swallowed in darkness, Terra looks up at it.
- Place unknown, Xehanort vs. Terra?
Xehanort: “You won’t be able to Ventus or Aqua!”
Terra: “I won’t forgive for this Xehanort!”
Xehanort: “Yes, let anger fill your heart with darkness!”
As Xehanort says, Terra starts pulsating with a dark aura.

DiZ: “Perhaps if it is him... the boy who can connect his heart with anyone...”
- Sora watching falling stars.
- On Destiny Island (?) a baby Ven is wrapped in white cloth and looks towards the sky.
- Aqua stands in front of Castle Oblivion.
- Vanitas stabs his keyblade into a fallen Aqua.
- Unknown place. Aqua is pointing her keyblade at someone.
Aqua: “My name is Master Aqua. And you will return my friend’s heart!”

DiZ: “Then he will be able to open the door and save those unhappy souls.”
- Ven glares at someone. He is synchronizing with that “someone” [what? I don’t really understand what this means... maybe it needs to be seen.]
- Aqua stands in a world of darkness and cries.
- Terra stabs his keyblade into the wasteland.
- A place that looks like Dive to Heart, Ven stands on the stained glass and yells.
Ven: “Our connected hearts are my power!”

DiZ: “His name is...”
- On Destiny Island, Sora stares at the sunset (wearing his clothes from KHII)[/FONT][/COLOR]

 

[Yuuki]

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LOL.....

well, we don't know, maybe he had to do something in LOD and he was too busy with other things so he HAD to sent TAV to do it....

damn right, he had to sleep all day drinking sake,playing bingo, you know when you see a old man playing bingo it means serious business!! oh no no he had too much work >.>

now lets get serious. what other thing could he be doing? the worlds are in danger and have a chance of being destroy, what more important than that?

I found a very good description of the trailer at this site : Birth by Sleep Jump Festa 2010 Trailer!...Description! (Here there be SPOILERS!)
Don't know if this on has been posted here yet :/

that was translate by one of the translators in this forum

 

[JTD95]

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that was translate by one of the translators in this forum

Oh, didn't know that... Sorry

 

[Lissar]

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I'm surprised no one really likes the name Sia! I guess it's because in Japanese Lea and Sia don't really sound girly (After all, 'a''s at the end of Japanese boys names are pretty common. SorA, TetsuyA etc.) I can see how Lea would sound like a girls name though, because it is a girls name! But as always Nomura really isn't thinking about the English speaking audience. I doubt he consults people who have to translate the games about the English sounding words he uses.

Or maybe he did.

Nomura: Hey guys I figured out Axel's human's name is: Lea!
Translators: Nomura, bud, Lea sounds like a girl.
Nomura: PERFECT! (skips away tralala~)

 

[Key]

Re: Jump Festa 2010 Official Discussion Thread!

I'm wondering if there's something we can do to show people that these trailer impressions have been received and translated to prevent others from bringing it up again and again? The fact that it's shown at the beginning of the thread (and I'd imagine that it's also on the front page) doesn't seem to be helping. Maybe we should make a quick thread letting people know that we have it already.

As for my new quick theory, I have a couple ideas in mind to correlate to what we've been told along with others' theories.

I've been thinking about the whole 'blizzard vs any other spell' enigma. Now, this could be complete BS and too Sci-fi-influenced, but I'm wondering if the freezing allowed Ven to be preserved and kept alive. I'm also wondering why else we've been shown that he was frozen, but still alive in the original secret movie, and that he was recovered and brought to CO afterwords from the trailer impressions. As someone mentioned before, Master Sakaguchi could be referring to the newly transformed Xehanort (formerly known as Terra) and he may attempt to fight him. With that in mind, perhaps Aqua escapes to bring Ven to a secret place where Xehanort could never find him, the chamber of Waking in CO. If she is unable to retrieve Ven, his preserved body without a heart would remain in this chamber for years to come.

...thus Xemnas looking for him after finding Aqua in the Chamber of Repose....... *cough* so Ven being frozen was like, cryogenic sleep type of stuff? (just saw Avatar, lol) again, good thing Aqua caught him.

like I've told my friends, this game is gonna be more epic than every other KH game in existence combined. I'm just sad it's a PSP game.

 

[djam2410]

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*Clap Clap Clap*

That was genius. Makes perfect sense!

well thanks;

and as for the end of the trailer where it says that sora is sitting on the papou tree alone,

i think that he didnt have every single last one of his memories back yet.

i think that at that point of the trailer, he truly recovered all of his memories of himself

and as he received those last memories, he was sitting there trying to think why they were the last keyblade

wielders and what happened to the others

 

[Key]

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I'm surprised no one really likes the name Sia! I guess it's because in Japanese Lea and Sia don't really sound girly (After all, 'a''s at the end of Japanese boys names are pretty common. SorA, TetsuyA etc.) I can see how Lea would sound like a girls name though, because it is a girls name! But as always Nomura really isn't thinking about the English speaking audience. I doubt he consults people who have to translate the games about the English sounding words he uses.

Or maybe he did.

Nomura: Hey guys I figured out Axel's human's name is: Lea!
Translators: Nomura, bud, Lea sounds like a girl.
Nomura: PERFECT! (skips away tralala~)

Hey, i LIKE Sia! D: as long as it's not pronounced See-a XP

But yeah, a lot of people have issues with names that end in "A." i have a friend that played through CoM TWICE before realizing Marluxia was a male. then again, pink hair and flowah powah doesn't help... >.>

EDIT- getting dragged to a party don't have too much fun while i'm gone D:

 

[Roxasness]

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Sorry if its a little late to post this, as it was on page 68/69

Originally Posted
They probably just used Blizzard because it fit and plus to show Ven didn't die from it.

I actualy did some scientific reserch into what degree metal (steel mainly) freeze's and breaks, to get an idea on how cold Ven was. "According to most codes (ASTM, ASME) the most common breaks in considering brittle fracture in steel are -20 degs F and -50 degs F."

Now from what I read, a child can live under colder tempetures such as a core tempeture of -50F degree's while most adults die at around 77F for core tempeture

Now for the person who said "Why didn't Aqua just use a fire spell on Ven..."

"In fact, many hypothermia victims die each year in the process of being rescued. In "rewarming shock."

Just some scientific fact behind BBS, of course it doesn't mean its ture in their world as it is ours

 

[Ikkin]

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LOL.....

well, we don't know, maybe he had to do something in LOD and he was too busy with other things so he HAD to sent TAV to do it....

Or, Master Eraqus is afraid that if he goes himself, he'll have to kill Master Xehanort, and he doesn't want to do that because their relationship is like one between old classmates?

 

[loke13]

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Or, Master Eraqus is afraid that if he goes himself, he'll have to kill Master Xehanort, and he doesn't want to do that because their relationship is like one between old classmates?

Old classmates is a far cry from best freinds.

 

[Nostalgia]

Re: Jump Festa 2010 Official Discussion Thread!

Sorry if its a little late to post this, as it was on page 68/69




I actualy did some scientific reserch into what degree metal (steel mainly) freeze's and breaks, to get an idea on how cold Ven was. "According to most codes (ASTM, ASME) the most common breaks in considering brittle fracture in steel are -20 degs F and -50 degs F."

Now from what I read, a child can live under colder tempetures such as a core tempeture of -50F degree's while most adults die at around 77F for core tempeture

Now for the person who said "Why didn't Aqua just use a fire spell on Ven..."

"In fact, many hypothermia victims die each year in the process of being rescued. In "rewarming shock."

Just some scientific fact behind BBS, of course it doesn't mean its ture in their world as it is ours

I applaud your effort, but we're talking about a universe in which a human body consists of 3 components, lol.

 

[Benihime]

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sooooooooooooooooooo

no trailer, i assume?

 

[Sign]

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Originally Posted by Nostalgia
I'm wondering if there's something we can do to show people that these trailer impressions have been received and translated to prevent others from bringing it up again and again? The fact that it's shown at the beginning of the thread (and I'd imagine that it's also on the front page) doesn't seem to be helping. Maybe we should make a quick thread letting people know that we have it already.

Actually, the neverending trailer summary full of dialogue isn't up on the homepage, but I'm also surprised that people are still bringing it up in new threads and links where people on other sites pretty much just copy/pasted Lissar's entire translation.

Originally Posted by Lissar
I doubt he consults people who have to translate the games about the English sounding words he uses.

I think he does...very rarely. Well, the only time I remember him doing that was the whole "Final Fantasy XIII" name for Luxord's cards or something.