it's surreal seeing these images come from America of all places
It's surreal to think they let a bunch of clowns inside the Republic's most important building, when Representatives and Senators were inside, specifically ratifying the Electoral College Votes.
For fuck's sake.
These images ran around the world in a matter of seconds. Congress is gonna be one big ass target now. "Oh hey, those random white guys intercepted the federal Capitol. Guess we can do worse damage if we're more careful" - some terrorist, somewhere.
Thank GOD the USELESS security chief of Capitol Hill resigned.
For fuck's, fucking sake.
I didn't sleep all of last night because Georgia.
Yeah, the Senate's 50/50 now. Kamala is gonna be the decisive vote.
First you impeach the shitheel so he can't send out any more pardons and lock him out of running again, then you prosecute and lock up everyone you can get. This is treason and sedition, plain and simple. I'm not an american, but you don't need to be to see that. Remove the Republicans that voted against Biden, because they are compromised. And for god's sake reform the police department. Some got hit doing their job, but there were plenty that didn't mind letting them through.
And don't forget to find a way to make sure his crotch spawn can't get into power themselves.
The confederate flag got into the capitol. That's closer than it ever did during your Civil War. Ban that shit to the level of nazi symbols (because at this point there really isn't much of a distinction anymore) and undo the brainwashing of his base that started ever since Fox News came on air. Because just locking up Trump and some of ringleaders here isn't gonna cut it: you basically have a terrorist organisation at this point. "Ya'll Quada" wasn't far off the mark.
If there is any justice left, Trump would only be able to look outside through bars for the rest of his life.
I think the most they'll do is make sure he won't ever run for a public position again. Neither him nor his family. Trumpism is a cancer that needs to die. Trumpism woke up, agitated and agglomerated all the racist sentiment in the United States.
The GOP cling on to power throughout states and in DC by blatant cheating that exists nowhere else in the Western world.
Re: Gerrmandering. But both parties do this. Both parties are responsible for many shitshows we've gotten.
I wonder in what capacity the republican party will continue to exist.
They're in a meltdown. If people thought Democrats had a problem with Progressives, hoo, boy, is the Republican Party in some deep shit now. Candidates will have to choose between appealing to moderate Republicans or Trumpists. It's gonna go to the point that I just think we're gonna have a third party that comes out of the GOP: a nationalist party. An alt-right party. These people have the money, logistics and media to do it.
It wouldn't surprise me that Democrats retain both Houses during Midterms next year.
It's clear that most of the republicans have been toeing the line for the past 4 years and don't actually care for Trump.
They knew Trumpism had to die, otherwise, it was a cancer that was gonna end up eating the GOP.
It's too soon in this clusterfuck to predict anything, but depending on who's running I'm guessing the next couple of election cycles will make clear just exactly how large Trump's base was compared to the republican voter that just votes anything with an R next to the name.
DiSantis, Scott, Rubio, Paul... hahaha, the GOP is gonna have a meltdown.
it's embarrassing how confrontational politics has become.
Thanks Republicans and they're Culture Wars. Barry Goldman introduced the Culture Wars in the 60's in order to win the Republican Presidential Nominee from Rockefeller. Henceforth, they've utilized this philosophy to win elections: Nixon, Reagan, so forth.
Republicans used Culture War to win, and Democrats tokenism to win. They're literally two evils.
do seem to have a spine and at least some respect for the US constitution so that they didn't go along with Trumps ugly game
I presume Pence did it to uphold his pledge to the Constitution. Mitch? lol he did it for the numbers.
No worries. Pelosi *will* Impeach him again in the next two weeks, which will ensure he can never run for office again whether or not the Senate will remove. Hopefully NY arrests him not long after he leaves office on state-level charges. Long-term, the plan post-presidency (which was the same if he'd lost four years ago) is going to be to start his own news channel so he and Russia can keep his cult brainwashed for years to come and displace the U.S.'s stability further.
The Impeachment process would either have to be expedited, because it takes a long time, or impeach him as a former President, which is something that hasn't been done before.
Isn't that the call of the political party to make?
Here's what could happen:
*Trump runs under the GOP*
*GOP inhabilitates/suspeds him from running*
*Trump makes a third party*
*Trump could win under that third party*
Tbh I wasn't exactly sure why they now cry for a second impeachment because there are less than two weeks left before this crook has to leave anyways so it would only be symbolic.
Impeachment can be used to declare him guilty under a political trial in the House, Senate is the jury, find him guilty, thus he is in habilitated to run.
Trump returning is a much bigger threat to the Republic right now.
Eh, I'd prefer it if Trump vanished out of public entirely, but even then his person is not the root or the cause of the overall main problem at hand.
Hopefully the Media stops covering him after all is said and done. They're partly responsible for his candidacy.
and it was Vice-President Pence who did the call.
I still wonder if this is true. The Vice President doesn't have the power to summon the National Guard. That's only a power the President has. Unless Pence was Acting President, he couldn't have done that. It could have been Trump who did a late summoning, but then we have the Secretary of Defense confirming it was Pence that called the National Guard.
It was a shit show.
MAGA Country dragged Obama's name all over the mud, but holy shit was Wednesday's attempted coup THE worse performance the US has ever been witness to.
If convicted in the senate he can be barred from holding office.
Correct. Like I mentioned: political trial is done in the House, the Senate is the jury.
Also, because our laws and systems are based on norms and values. When they're torn asunder like this, we either make an example of the perpetrators or concede that the norm and value no longer exists. It will he worse next time. They'll be more competent next time. It won't be Trump next time.
Thankfully the Founding Fathers built the Republic to specifically prevent a dictator.
I forgot to mention: Trump distanced himself pretty hard from protesters. It's possible that Trump Country is gonna feel betrayed.