I kinda can't take it as behind Terra's back when he couldn't fully well said what he thought to Terra's face. If the master is worried about his pupil straying, he can't quite say it to him. He always thought of Terra as a son and like any father, he tries to look after him while he doesn't know it. He believed it was best for Terra. All of his intentions were pure and good. And having Aqua look after him was a good move since they were friends.
...didn't Eraqus pretty much say this to Terra's face when assigning them their missions? About how Terra obviously can't control the darkness, and Eraqus keeps the Master title from him because he can't completely trust him? Tacking on, "I want Aqua to monitor your progress and report back to me. If her report is kind, you may receive your lost Master title" would have done the job without making it seem like she's spying, but merely helping him on his way to being a Master. It was possible.
Its like suspecting your son of doing drugs but you don't want to confront him on it so you ask his friends to make sure he is ok.
Except that Eraqus already confronted him about it. Multiple times.
Again, I don't really think it is spying if Aqua fully presents herself to Terra when they do meet and them never meeting at all. Practically at every world, Aqua is the last to come and Terra isn't there. She only comes to a world where Terra has already left. So, why is it considered spying if she can't even keep up? I blame it as faulty writing here. There is nothing in the game that constitutes as spying.
Still, she does take into account what she sees and hears and lets it affect her judgment of him at times. Actually, her judgment of him seems to be easily swayed depending on what she hears he did in the worlds she visits. If it's positive, she has faith in him. If it's negative, she loses faith and wants to continue her duties.
But, that's getting off the subject. Sorry, mindless observation.
It's not so much that she's spying on him, but rather what he's done, and making judgments based on them, with the intention of reporting it all back to Eraqus. It's pretty much the same thing.
Aqua doesn't think she is doing anything wrong. So, why should she act like she was? She didn't expect her friends to be hurt by this, for sure. I can't blame her for being hurt just the same. She thought she was doing good too. If it is justified saying that Terra didn't know, the same can be said for Aqua.
Wouldn't it be common sense that a friend would get pissed if he found out he was being spied on by his own best friend? It's kind of obvious, isn't it? And, of course, knowing Ven idolizes Terra would be knowing he wouldn't be happy by this bit of information either.
Besides, what kind of friend would be perfectly okay with spying on her own best friend? Good intentions or not, isn't that a betrayal of trust?
Ven is a tricky case. Being young and naive, he is easily pushed by his emotions. It becomes clear that Ven valued Terra above Aqua during Radiant Garden. He doesn't try to defend/understand Aqua's case. He flat out blames her and is disappointed. Its childish, but yeah. He is just a kid. Still, obvious whose his best friend.
Actually, Ven valuing Terra is obvious in the beginning of Ven's story; his reactions to Vanitas' words, and the flashbacks he has being mostly about Terra with a dash of Aqua here and there, make it pretty clear that, although he cares for Aqua, he prefers Terra, much like a son prefers his father or a daughter prefers her mother.
But yeah, that's why I can understand his side. He is still just a kid, he preferred Terra, and even if he
didn't prefer Terra, he'd probably take the accused's side over the accuser's.
the way i see it is this It was Terra & Ven who were in the wrong, Aqua was doing what her master told her & eraqus was right look what happened to the trio, its Terra & Ven who are flawed her not Aqua!
Aqua went about it the wrong way, though. Do you really hear her line, "And what's this dangerous plan, Terra? It doesn't sound like what the
Master told you to do." and think it sounds like an okay thing to say, especially to your best friend? Remember her
tone? It sounded like a kid who just caught their classmate trying to lie about a rule they broke.
For simplicity's sake, I'll just repost what I posted two posts ago (no point in retyping it all again):
First, Eraqus tells Aqua these orders
behind Terra's back. Terra wasn't aware he was even doing anything THAT wrong, so finding this bit of information would have been a huge blow, especially coming from the mouth of one of his
best friends.
Secondly, his first meeting with both of his best friends (save for that short conversation with Aqua 3 worlds ago) was to find out one of his best friends had been ordered to spy on him by his practically father figure,
and she was perfectly okay in doing so. True, she had good intentions. But hearing that she spied at all would have been tough to take; I'd be pissed, too, especially as, like I said, he didn't know he was even doing anything wrong.
And lastly, Aqua all but denied that she truly was spying on him. When Terra came up with the accusation, she didn't try to deny it, she tried to
justify it. It's pretty much the equivalent of, "Yeah, I was spying on you, but this is why". That wouldn't have sounded very good, either, finding out his best friend was spying on him.
As for Ventus, I do agree that he overreacted. At the same time, I can also see and understand why he would. His brother/father figure is being accused of some pretty awful stuff by his own sister/mother figure. He's trusted them both so much and never had any reason to distrust them. All of this coming to light out of the blue must have been pretty hard for him to take in, especially at that age. And since Aqua was the accuser, with Terra being the accused, Terra looks more like the victim here, while Aqua looks like she stabbed them in the back. Add that to him being closer to Terra than Aqua, and it's pretty obvious why he would act that way. Yes, we may disagree, but we're also third parties and can understand the situation a lot better than all three of them, because we can see everything in a much larger perspective while they can't. We can't expect them to understand the situations like we do, because they aren't presented with what we're presented with; they don't have that information.
You screwed yourself here it was a selfless flaw & as you said their was no way Aqua could have known of the ramifications of realising Terranort from the darkness. Invalid point is invalid, & as you said befor i see this more as a situational flaw
Actually no. She knew Xehanort had taken over Terra's body. That was one thing she DID know, so she
should have known the bad things that could happen if he was kept alive with nobody to stop him. She wouldn't know that he'd lose his memories, and considering that everyone who would try to stop Xehanort (herself, Ventus, and Eraqus) were out of commission (in Aqua's case, she knew she would be out of commission if she saved Terranort), that means that Xehanort would be loose with a possessed body and
nobodyto stop him. It would have been more selfless of her to NOT save him, and keep the obvious disaster from happening, considering how it'd affect EVERYONE in every single world, including the ones she's met and become friends with. She would have know ALL of this, would have known saving Terranort could mean certain doom towards a ton of people, and decided that ONE person was more important that hundreds of others. Tell me how that's NOT a flaw.
Aqua is only blinded by her love of her friends (which is displayed when she realises Terrahnort) never by her duties or titles. Aquas duties & title as keyblade master is what keeps her on the straight & narrow. Because of her title Aqua has to act professionally & always do the right thing as a keyblade master & follow Eraquses requests as his former pupil, as long as she was doing what Eraqus told her nothing went wrong shit didnt really hit the fan for her until she tried to save Terranort. Her only flaw was loving her friends to much, (the same flaw Xion had when attacking Roxas she had to do it so he would stop her because it was the right thing to do. Aqua fought Terranort and released him from RoD because she thought it was the right thing to do)
She is blinded by her duties at times. How soon we forget how she spoke to Terra in Radiant Garden. How she carried out her duties without having full knowledge of why. How she was willing to spy on Terra (as I said before, she never denied it, and tried to justify it instead) because it was her
duty, instead of taking a more friendly approach.
Yes, as a Master, she does need to follow orders. However, the main theme of KH is friendship, so when orders and friendship collide, friendship pretty much needs to come first. A good example would be your own favorite, Xion; as an Organization member, it was her duty to follow orders. She went against them for the sake of friendship. If you find this commendable, why would you not see Aqua's opposite actions as a flaw?
lol really only one now huh?
NOPE! 8D
dont worry sweatheart this is one game i have finished!
Wow, you finished the game and still ignore the parts of it that prove your point wrong? How sad. :c
to rap things up Aqua has hardly any flaws except the blind love of her friends which is an endering flaw often seen in the Mary sue archetype!
And it is also a constant theme in the series; anyone who DOESN'T have that kind of flaw is usually a bad guy. So all the good guys, like Xion, are Sues because they have that flaw? c:
Flaws aren't bad. Flaws make the character. Sure, Aqua takes her role very seriously. That doesn't make her less of a character. It makes her more realistic. That is a writer's goal for characters.
I agree with this completely. I prefer characters have flaws, and I tend to appreciate them more when they do. It makes them much more human, and easy to relate to. You can understand their side more easily, because you may share flaws with that character, or know someone who does. It makes the character more enjoyable.
