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interesting, would you like to give an example?
"Contradictions" in the bible
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For the post in the topic. I never learned that God hated or resnted the Angel that was cast out of heaven (a.k.a. The Devil). More dissapointed in him.
THink of it like this. A father's teenage son goes against all the rules that the father has put down. The father kicks his son out of the house for a little bit. The father doesn't hate his son, he's just dissapointed in him. (The father being God and the son being the Devil)
Also, I wanted to point out something out. Everyone knows how the bible says God is all powerful and loves all of us. And a lot of people say, "If God is real, why doesn't he make all the suffering go away."
Now I used to agree with this 100%. Then I read the book Angels and Demons. In it, a guard is confused on this topic and asks a priest. The priest responds by asking if he has a son. The guard doesn't and the priest tells him to pretend he has an eight year old son. And then goes on to say that the guard would let his son ride a skateboard, he would warn him of the dangers that could occur. But he's not going to hover over his kid to make sure he's safe. He's going to let the kid fall, scrape his knee and learn from his mistakes.
After reading that, I was like amazed had closed minded I was. I never thought of God's relationship with mankind to be like a father and son.
THink of it like this. A father's teenage son goes against all the rules that the father has put down. The father kicks his son out of the house for a little bit. The father doesn't hate his son, he's just dissapointed in him. (The father being God and the son being the Devil)
Also, I wanted to point out something out. Everyone knows how the bible says God is all powerful and loves all of us. And a lot of people say, "If God is real, why doesn't he make all the suffering go away."
Now I used to agree with this 100%. Then I read the book Angels and Demons. In it, a guard is confused on this topic and asks a priest. The priest responds by asking if he has a son. The guard doesn't and the priest tells him to pretend he has an eight year old son. And then goes on to say that the guard would let his son ride a skateboard, he would warn him of the dangers that could occur. But he's not going to hover over his kid to make sure he's safe. He's going to let the kid fall, scrape his knee and learn from his mistakes.
After reading that, I was like amazed had closed minded I was. I never thought of God's relationship with mankind to be like a father and son.
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^i heard somethign similar to that as well
as for pho, thanks for that, but weve talked about hell alot, care for one we havent discussed yet?
as for pho, thanks for that, but weve talked about hell alot, care for one we havent discussed yet?
Well, I was re-thinking me saying I'm aethiest. Im not, but I don't belong to any formal religion. So, my beliefs would determine that factor but it's about christianity.
Isn't that what i said before? THat whole exmaple was supporting what you just said.
Isn't that what i said before? THat whole exmaple was supporting what you just said.
On that note, what does a parent do when he sees a teenanger beating up his kid? His kid never chose to be beat up, his free will was denied. A parent who wants his child to learn from his mistakes would let the child make the mistakes, not allow others to violate his free will.
God doesn't care about kids being beatne up....
Anyways, the Bible is *full* of contradictions. In fact, there is a very big contradiction in the creation story. It says on the first day God created light and THEN he created the sun on the fourth day.
Genesis 1:2-4
the earth was formless and desolate. The raging ocean that covered everything was engulfed in total darkness, and the Spirit of God was moving over the water. Then God commanded, "Let there be light" - and light appeared.
Genesis 1: 14-17
Then God commanded,"Let lights appear in the sky to seperate the day from night and to show the time when days, years, and religious festivals begin; they will shine in the sky and give light to the earth"- and it was done. So God made two larger lights, the sun to rule over the day and the moon to rule over the night; he also made the stars.
How the hell can you have light without the sun or the stars?
Anyways, the Bible is *full* of contradictions. In fact, there is a very big contradiction in the creation story. It says on the first day God created light and THEN he created the sun on the fourth day.
Genesis 1:2-4
the earth was formless and desolate. The raging ocean that covered everything was engulfed in total darkness, and the Spirit of God was moving over the water. Then God commanded, "Let there be light" - and light appeared.
Genesis 1: 14-17
Then God commanded,"Let lights appear in the sky to seperate the day from night and to show the time when days, years, and religious festivals begin; they will shine in the sky and give light to the earth"- and it was done. So God made two larger lights, the sun to rule over the day and the moon to rule over the night; he also made the stars.
How the hell can you have light without the sun or the stars?
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er... either its part of gods all powerfulness, or the light was the existence of light and the sun was the source of it after, you cant have the sun if light doesnt exist. or something like that.
oh, and pho, whats your definition of free will? just wondering.
oh, and pho, whats your definition of free will? just wondering.
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