Xion theory(?) may have been said already, maybe not...

[Smile]

A fake is still a fake. *shrugs* "Mixing up definitions" is irrelevent here. If something is false, then it has nothing of it's own... and Nobodies didn't have anything of their own, by theory. You can't make a fake someone. That's like making a clone and expecting it to be somebody like the original. Harsh... but it's a pretty hard thing to contest.

...they had a Body and a Soul all their own, original o.x;;;
Repliku in a way also had those, they were just modeled after someone else to begin with and weren't "leftovers".

Good point~. But to the original point, why not create a Nobody who could wield a Keyblade? I realize they COULD make a somebody, or close to it, but that still doesn't disprove the synthetic Xion theory~ Your avatar is so cute, by the way~

Because the Keyblade would be fake? Riku said as much about Xion's Keyblade. the Keyblade chooses its Wielder, I doubt they could just shove one, least of all on a Heart they made or tampered with.

 

[Ren]

Grah. I don't feel like getting the video or the quote.

But anyways, even after KH is uhmm broken? Could I use that word for it?
Yeah. Xemnas' KH is broken, he says he'll rebuild it, then he attacks Sora.
Clearly he didn't need Sora, if he attempted to kill Sora.

Ah, I noticed that. That part never made sense to me. I always assumed he just went crazy.
Well, at a point in time, they needed Roxas/Sora.

 

[satokiba]

Because the Keyblade would be fake? Riku said as much about Xion's Keyblade. the Keyblade chooses its Wielder, I doubt they could just shove one, least of all on a Heart they made or tampered with.

You win. xD I'm curious, do you have your own theory or any thoughts on the matter of Xion?

 

[Gabo]

Ah, I noticed that. That part never made sense to me. I always assumed he just went crazy.
Well, at a point in time, they needed Roxas/Sora.

I think that just made things a bit easier, to be honest.
I don't feel they ever needed Roxas or Sora.
Especially since when Roxas originally ran off, the plan was to kill Roxas.
Never bring him back.
Then it was changed to bring him back first.
They were never once like OMG. WE NEED ROXY BACK!
And that was prior to Sora waking up too.

 

[Faris]

Proven by KH2, Roxas is Sora's true nobody, so Xion can't be. I don't buy this :/

not so fast, the Ven Prospect. BBS will have answers.

 

[Smile]

You win. xD I'm curious, do you have your own theory or any thoughts on the matter of Xion?

She's related to Aqua. I don't really wanna go beyond that, and if that isn't true, they failed because it could've been the loose end to tie BBS, Days and onwards to KH3 since we don't know what happened to her at the end.
SRK already showed us they like a motif of reunion and lasting bonds. Xion being Aqua-related will uphold that principel for TAV, what with Roxas being the Ven, Xemnas being the Terra, and Xion filling in the Aqua role.
Then it'll all hit the climax and ending in KH3.

 

[Thrax]

Hm. De isch doch kei Transe mann.

 

[Smile]

not so fast, the Ven Prospect. BBS will have answers.

The Ven prospect explains why Roxas looks like Ven, indicating a relation between Sora and Ven. Ven didn't give Sora another Body and Soul (maybe Soul which would explain actually why Sora managed to regain human form but meh) so that Roxas could be anything other than Sora's Nobody.

 

[Ren]

I think that just made things a bit easier, to be honest.
I don't feel they ever needed Roxas or Sora.
Especially since when Roxas originally ran off, the plan was to kill Roxas.
Never bring him back.
Then it was changed to bring him back first.
They were never once like OMG. WE NEED ROXY BACK!
And that was prior to Sora waking up too.

In the end, it was all a matter of convenience?
I still don't understand. How would Xemnas have rebuilt Kingdom Hearts? D:

I don't recall of them throwing Roxas away before then.They knew that if they couldn't bring Roxas back, he would have ended up merging with Sora. They had already started changing their plans and setting their sights on Sora.

Xaldin: Sora is coming back.
Axel: *looks up* Then... [Then what about Roxas?]
Saix: Then what's left is to eliminate No. 13?
Xaldin: If he has no intention to come back to us, then that's the only thing we can do.
The other members stayed silent.
Demyx: So we're... eliminating the traitor?

Source.

 

[Gabo]

In the end, it was all a matter of convenience?
I still don't understand. How would Xemnas have rebuilt Kingdom Hearts? D:

I don't recall of them throwing Roxas away before then.They knew that if they couldn't bring Roxas back, he would have ended up merging with Sora. They had already started changing their plans and setting their sights on Sora.

~shrugs~
Apparently he thought there was a way.

Look at the first scene in FM.

And I doubt they knew he was going to merge with Sora just yet.
How would they know?

Its doubtful that the Order knew anything about what happened to Sora after the events of CO.
Especially since the one survivor of that castle was Axel.
And I wasn't aware he could be trusted.

And it wasn't as if Roxas was leaving to merge with Sora.
He was only leaving to meet with him or whatever.

Idunno.
Its too confusing

 

[Ren]

~shrugs~
Apparently he thought there was a way.

It was more of a rhetorical question XD

Look at the first scene in FM.

And I doubt they knew he was going to merge with Sora just yet.
How would they know?

Refresh my memory on that scene? I don't feel like looking it up. D:

Its doubtful that the Order knew anything about what happened to Sora after the events of CO.
Especially since the one survivor of that castle was Axel.
And I wasn't aware he could be trusted.

And it wasn't as if Roxas was leaving to merge with Sora.
He was only leaving to meet with him or whatever.

Idunno.
Its too confusing

But Roxas was kidnapped after he said he was leaving.
They probably guessed who it was and why. They seem smart enough for that. I mean, they said "Sora is coming back" which means they knew before Axel went to get the crap beaten out of him by Roxas.
I'm confused, too. Maybe I should stop.

 

[Frozura]

My geuss is Ven's heart was sealed in the keyblade and he vanished from the world. a few years later sora finds the keyblade and as a result him and roxas merge. when sora is turned into a heartless by the keyblade i forgot which one but rikus special Keyblade which thus ven is out but when he joins the organization xemnas changes his name to roxas and as for xion is probably a result from aquas heart being sealed in her keyblade then when kairi is given the keyblade aqua is awakened and thus her name changes to xion. namine is awakened from kairi like aqua but the thing is missing is who is namines actual person?

 

[Smile]

My geuss is Ven's heart was sealed in the keyblade and he vanished from the world. a few years later sora finds the keyblade and as a result him and roxas merge. when sora is turned into a heartless by the keyblade i forgot which one but rikus special Keyblade which thus ven is out but when he joins the organization xemnas changes his name to roxas and as for xion is probably a result from aquas heart being sealed in her keyblade then when kairi is given the keyblade aqua is awakened and thus her name changes to xion. namine is awakened from kairi like aqua but the thing is missing is who is namines actual person?

1) Roxas and Ven are not the same person, confirmed by Nomura.
2) Sora couldn't have found the Keyblade, it was with Riku until he took it from him. How does that settle in for you?
3) The Keyblade Kairi wields was given to her by Riku for it is Riku's Keyblade representing his Memories from Home.
4) Namine came from Sora.