Xion Theory - A Nobody, But Whos...?

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is it possible for a nobody to be born from a memory? because since days takes place between kh1 and 2 then that would be the time where sora's memories were all messed up. if memories were located in the heart, one of sora's memories of kairi could've been missing or left his body or whatever, then that could create a nobody in kairi's image...XION!! plus that would be the "special birth" that the producers talked about

just another crazy idea...

 

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is it possible for a nobody to be born from a memory? because since days takes place between kh1 and 2 then that would be the time where sora's memories were all messed up. so if one of sora's memories of kairi was missing or left his body or whatever, then that could create a nobody in kairi's image...XION!!

I've heard this idea before... it could be possible.

 

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is it possible for a nobody to be born from a memory?

Personally, I wouldn't call it to be much of a Nobody, seeing how the definition gives thus far is "The Body and Soul left behind, cast away by a Heart moving on to become a Heartless" (which would explain Xion being a Special Nobody by her being 'cast away' without Kairi becoming a Heartless, or something, if she's really her Nobody)

 

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Personally, I wouldn't call it to be much of a Nobody, seeing how the definition gives thus far is "The Body and Soul left behind, cast away by a Heart moving on to become a Heartless" (which would explain Xion being a Special Nobody by her being 'cast away' without Kairi becoming a Heartless, or something, if she's really her Nobody)

I think Nomura indirectly saying that she's a nobody. Something like "who's nobody is she?" or "Where is her heart?"

 

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I think Nomura indirectly saying that she's a nobody. Something like "who's nobody is she?" or "Where is her heart?"

I meant a Nobody being made of Memories wouldn't seem like much of a Nobody to me. I'm not saying Xion's not a Nobody.

 

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or maybe kairi has 2 nobodies? because her heart left a body twice did it not? the first time being when DI was destroyed, her heart left her own body to go to sora's. that could've created Namine and her powers over sora because she joined sora's body and, therefore, access to his memories. the second time her heart left a body was when sora released her heart from his body with the dark keyblade. this would've created Xion and Roxas and would explain why they both can wield the keyblade

 

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or maybe kairi has 2 nobodies? because her heart left a body twice did it not? the first time being when DI was destroyed, her heart left her own body to go to sora's. that could've created Namine and her powers over sora because she joined sora's body and, therefore, access to his memories. the second time her heart left a body was when sora released her heart from his body with the dark keyblade. this would've created Xion and Roxas and would explain why they both can wield the keyblade

Uh, Namine was created along with Roxas, when Kairi's Heart left Sora's Body. Xion could've been made when Kairi's Heart initially left her body to move into Sora.

 

[Xziled]

how variants of kairi is nomura gonna make?

 

[bspat13]

Uh, Namine was created along with Roxas, when Kairi's Heart left Sora's Body.

haha wow i feel really dumb. completely forgot about that one

 

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how variants of kairi is nomura gonna make?

As many as the games he makes. He'll just throw up a good Watanabe-written female protagonist and then randomly connect the two girls.

 

[Genocide]

Uh, Namine was created along with Roxas, when Kairi's Heart left Sora's Body. Xion could've been made when Kairi's Heart initially left her body to move into Sora.

For that, there has to be darkness in her heart. There isn't.

Kairi's heart used Sora's heartless as it's darkness so Namine could be created.

 

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For that, there has to be darkness in her heart. There isn't.

Kairi's heart used Sora's heartless as it's darkness so Namine could be created.

We know the Darkness is needed because that's the only way the Heart would leave the Body - by becoming a Heartless. And yet Kairi's Heart not only left her Body despite never becoming a Heartless (a fun fact you forgot there), it did so when the Darkness enveloped the girl all over and then she disappeared - into the Darkness.
Possibility.

 

[Crimson Jazz]

Uh, Namine was created along with Roxas, when Kairi's Heart left Sora's Body. Xion could've been made when Kairi's Heart initially left her body to move into Sora.

But there was no darkness in Kairi's heart when it initially left her body. Without any darkness in her heart, a Nobody couldn't have been created.

 

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But there was no darkness in Kairi's heart when it initially left her body. Without any darkness in her heart, a Nobody couldn't have been created.

Ok then, explain to me this - how did her Heart leave the Body to begin with? PoH and all, right?

 

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@T-M
without any darkness a HEARTLESS can't be created. the nobody wasn't created as the result of a heartless being created but as a result of her heart leaving her own body to go to sora's. that would be why they refer to her as being a nobody of "a special birth" or something along those lines

 

[Xziled]

maybe after kairi's heart left her body, darkness took it over for A bit...

who knows, maybe the body kairi is using now could be a fake one like the riku replica...

 

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@T-M
without any darkness a HEARTLESS can't be created. the nobody wasn't created as the result of a heartless being created but as a result of her heart leaving her own body to go to sora's. that would be why they refer to her as being a nobody of "a special birth" or something along those lines

This. :thumbsup:
A PoH's own Nobody. I'd definitely call that 'special'.

who knows, maybe the body kairi is using now could be a fake one like the riku replica...

This can tie in nicely with the fact that Maleficent was the one to have found Kairi's "Body", and when Sora released her Heart from his Body it did what it initially did - and instead of becoming a Heartless, floated into the closest possible container.

 

[Crimson Jazz]

Ok then, explain to me this - how did her Heart leave the Body to begin with? PoH and all, right?

It wasn't never really explained HOW her Heart left the body, I believe...

@T-M
without any darkness a HEARTLESS can't be created. the nobody wasn't created as the result of a heartless being created but as a result of her heart leaving her own body to go to sora's. that would be why they refer to her as being a nobody of "a special birth" or something along those lines

And yet, Nobodies are born when a heart is swallowed by darkness and becomes a Heartless, leaving behind the Body and Soul.

No darkness = no Heartless.
No Heartless = No Nobody.

 

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It wasn't never really explained HOW her Heart left the body, I believe...

Which is to say, there is no way to contradict the assumption sasying the vast Darkness that filled the islands at the time and eventually claimed both the Islands and Kairi's own Body was what tore the Heart out of her Body and then corrupted said Body into a unique Nobody.

And yet, Nobodies are born when a heart is swallowed by darkness and becomes a Heartless, leaving behind the Body and Soul.

No darkness = no Heartless.
No Heartless = No Nobody.

Uh, it's more
No Heart-leaving-the-Body = No Nobody.
The Heart becoming a Heartless is one possible means. Kairi, being a PoH, no doubt presented another possibility in which a Heart left the Body without becoming a Heartless.

 

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Nobodies are born when the body and soul are casted off.
Xehanort never became a Heartless, but since he casted off his body, it turned into a Nobody regardless.