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Sora...more of a plot device than character?



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@ Sephiroth0812 - Good catch, man! You're absolutely right about him saying that, and I actually remember reading that article myself. The only thing is though, I remember him mentioning that only as an explanation as to why Vanitas resembled Sora. I'm not certain that he was observing that it could have been anyone who healed him, or simply mentioning the process by which Vanitas had a different face.
 

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He explained the look of Vanitas by stating it was the conection Ven shares with Sora, which in turn affected him as Vanitas was still conected to Ven (heck, Van's heart evolved out of a shard of Ven's heart) and that anyone else connecting with Ven would have resulted in Vanitas looking like that person.

That connection between Sora and Ven however was actually specificially formed because of Sora's heart healing Ven's injury.
The healing and why Vanitas has a different face are linked!
I may lean out of the window with this, but I think it has to do with:

1. The time, it was exactly when Sora was just born.
2. The location, Destiny Islands.

If all that happened a year earlier at the same location it would have been Riku's heart that was in place there. The question would then be if Riku's heart would have stopped and offered Ven its help or not.
 

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@ Smile - I think Riku, if indeed the ability is universal, would have also. The differences that separated Riku and Sora's hearts only came faaaaar later. In fact, I think I remember a scene at the end of BBS where Riku was encouraging Sora to open up his heart. So, up to that point, at least, I believe they were very similar...

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Wait a second...a rather painful thought just occurred to me. What if the moment when Terra passed Riku the Keyblade was the moment that Riku and Sora began to diverge, in terms of the nature of their hearts? Further, what if by doing so, Terra sealed Riku's eventual fate by feeding his curiosity and desire to see other worlds?

If so...? Then Terra has yet another unintentional sin to lay at his feet. At least, though, we can say that in the end Riku was restored to light.

@ Sephiroth0812 - I'm not disagreeing with you about WHY Vanitas looks like Sora. Or, anyone else for that matter. All I am saying, is that what was Nomura answering? Simply the how and why of Vanitas' appearance, or was he actually hinting at the nature of Sora's powers? Maybe, (this is one of those chicken-egg things) the act of opening his heart to Ven is what GAVE Sora his ability to connect with people? That by forming so deep a connection with someone so young, he actually began the process of training his Heart to do the same, instinctively, with all the people he meets?

Mmmmm....

P.S. @ Sephiroth - For a second there, when you shorthanded "Vanitas" to "Van", I thought you were refrencing FFXII's Vaan. I was about to have a very confused moment... :p
 

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@ Smile - I think Riku, if indeed the ability is universal, would have also. The differences that separated Riku and Sora's hearts only came faaaaar later. In fact, I think I remember a scene at the end of BBS where Riku was encouraging Sora to open up his heart. So, up to that point, at least, I believe they were very similar...

The ability itself may or may not be universal. But if it is I think the decision if one heart will help an injured other one still lies by the heart if it want to help (or even noticed a heart needs help). Sora's heart said in the BBS prologue that Ven's bright light and his pain actually caught its attention.
But I've to agree with Smile, Riku most likely would have done the same.
I even rather would say most hearts would do this when they notice it.

Sakima said:
Wait a second...a rather painful thought just occurred to me. What if the moment when Terra passed Riku the Keyblade was the moment that Riku and Sora began to diverge, in terms of the nature of their hearts? Further, what if by doing so, Terra sealed Riku's eventual fate by feeding his curiosity and desire to see other worlds?

If so...? Then Terra has yet another unintentional sin to lay at his feet. At least, though, we can say that in the end Riku was restored to light.
Riku's desire to see other worlds was already there due to the story of "the kid that left" and Terra sensed that Riku is similar to him (searching/longing for Power to protect those he loves).
That trait can be exploited by others as we saw with Terra and MX and also with Riku and Maleficent.
The darkness in Riku's heart simply grew when he opened that door in KH 1 and Ansem SoD might also have had a hand in this.
Furthermore, in theory it could also have something to do with Vanitas.

Sakima said:
@ Sephiroth0812 - I'm not disagreeing with you about WHY Vanitas looks like Sora. Or, anyone else for that matter. All I am saying, is that what was Nomura answering? Simply the how and why of Vanitas' appearance, or was he actually hinting at the nature of Sora's powers? Maybe, (this is one of those chicken-egg things) the act of opening his heart to Ven is what GAVE Sora his ability to connect with people? That by forming so deep a connection with someone so young, he actually began the process of training his Heart to do the same, instinctively, with all the people he meets?

Mmmmm....

P.S. @ Sephiroth - For a second there, when you shorthanded "Vanitas" to "Van", I thought you were refrencing FFXII's Vaan. I was about to have a very confused moment... :p

That's actually a new spin on this, however this would indicate Sora became special the moment he was born. That would contradict Nomura's repeated claims that Sora is just a normal boy (which in my book is a claim that can't be sufficiently kept as of now anyways).
It's not a subject to debate that the connection between Ventus and Sora is as of now probably the deepest and closest we have seen so far in the series (and deepened even more when Ven's heart found shelter within Sora's four years later).
So the possibility that this very first and deepest connection actually caused Sora's heart to develop an ability to form "special" connections with nearly all people he meets over time is actually there.

Lol, I never thought Vaan from FF XII needs to be shorthanded...his name is already so short...*ggg*
 

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Ummm...so, you just put *snip*?

I'm a tad confused...

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