Perhaps Namine didn't bother fully restoring Donald and Goofy's memories since she figured they were non-essential anyway. 
This is probably the most likely answer though.
This is probably the most likely answer though.
Since Donald and Goofy didn't recognize Ventus after Sora showed them the picture of Roxas in KH2...
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Something that wasn't clearly established before isn't even a retcon.
They didn't rectify anything there because it was ambigious to begin with in the japanese original.
It's just a dumb translation error that really doesn't deserve to be made such a fuss over.
They didn't rectify anything there because it was ambigious to begin with in the japanese original.
It's just a dumb translation error that really doesn't deserve to be made such a fuss over.
After watching the KH2 cutscene in which Goofy "introduced" Pete to Sora by the tower, I would like to point out that even in Japanese, Goofy said "the King". This is his line, verbatim:
This translates into something along the lines of "Long ago, he only did bad things in our world. Therefore, the King (Ō-sama) locked him up in a prison in another dimension. He should have, but..."
But I digress; it's a topic for another day.
Goofy said:
This translates into something along the lines of "Long ago, he only did bad things in our world. Therefore, the King (Ō-sama) locked him up in a prison in another dimension. He should have, but..."
But I digress; it's a topic for another day.
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Well at least now we can't blame it on English translators.
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Goofy and Donald met Ven for what couldn't have been more than five minutes a decade prior in a relatively uneventful meeting while they were concerned about King Mickey. The only reason They gave Ven the time of day in the first place was because he knew Mickey but were overall uninterested in him as a person. It's much like when they first met Sora, they weren't all that interested in him per se, they were just intested in the fact that he had "The Key" and Mickey ordered them to go where ever the key went.
Besides, when it came to apperances, KH2 as a whole was kind of...weird. It's like it wasn't sure certain characters where supposed to look like others or not. Canonically, Sora, Ven, Roxas, and Vanitas are supposed to like similar with a few variations, as well as Kairi, Namine, and Xion. The games (particularly KH2) only aknowledge this when it's convinient. e.g., I'm more baffled that Donald and Goofy, or even Sora himself, didn't point out that Roxas looked like Sora when they saw the picture of him.
Meanwhile, Aqua notices that Sora is the spitting image of Ven even though there's a good ten year or so age difference, lol.
KH is over all weird when it comes to this sort of thing so I think this is a case where it's probably better to not mind it much and chalk it up to the writters being lazy.
Besides, when it came to apperances, KH2 as a whole was kind of...weird. It's like it wasn't sure certain characters where supposed to look like others or not. Canonically, Sora, Ven, Roxas, and Vanitas are supposed to like similar with a few variations, as well as Kairi, Namine, and Xion. The games (particularly KH2) only aknowledge this when it's convinient. e.g., I'm more baffled that Donald and Goofy, or even Sora himself, didn't point out that Roxas looked like Sora when they saw the picture of him.
Meanwhile, Aqua notices that Sora is the spitting image of Ven even though there's a good ten year or so age difference, lol.
KH is over all weird when it comes to this sort of thing so I think this is a case where it's probably better to not mind it much and chalk it up to the writters being lazy.
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And that wasn't even the only one, the translators also interpreted the dialogue between sora and roxas during their battle wrong as well.
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And come 4 games later we'll discover that Keyblades have genders. You know it's gonna happen...
Were there any other mistranslations like that? And I don't mean misspellings.
Hmm...I haven't played kh2 in a long time so I can't say off hand but I do remember the roxas one greatly because of the confusion it caused.
The line "his majesty" is also one such mistranslation but we didn't notice till bbs when it was actually Minnie that sent pete away.
Actually, as I've posted above, the "His Majesty" line (if you're referring to the scene with Pete by the tower in KH2) isn't a mistranslation. I think the writers forgot that the line existed and went on ahead to unknowingly create a new background story about Pete's banishment.
Not that it has to do with anything, but the writing quality of KH is not known to be stellar. That said, so that this post of mine is still at least loosely connected with the topic of the thread, let me just say that I still would hardly consider why Roxas didn't ring a bell to Donald and Goofy a retcon since there exists a plausible explanation that has been elaborated on the first few posts.
That's why I said we didn't notice till BBS as until then it was valid. Why it's listed as mistranslation ever since is because, as Sephiroth points out often, the line "majesty" in japanese has no gender. So despite the english version the original japanese is correct.
Except the Japanese words for His Majesty and Her Majesty (when used to address or refer to a king and queen) do differ from each other. King, or His Majesty, is 王様 Ō-sama (which was what Goofy said back then), while queen, or Her Majesty, is 女王様 Jo'ō-sama (literally, female king). It wasn't a mistranslation, and thus, there was a retcon even in the original Japanese version.
Nothing is wrong with that, and of course such a scenario is possible. I admit I might have gotten out of line by saying that it was retcon, but I just wanted to show that there wasn't any mistranslation regarding this line as opposed to what we previously believe.
However, since this is not a thread to talk about this matter and I believe I have made my point, I'm ready to drop it to make way for others who would like to continue their discussion on Donald and Goofy and their memories of Ventus.
However, since this is not a thread to talk about this matter and I believe I have made my point, I'm ready to drop it to make way for others who would like to continue their discussion on Donald and Goofy and their memories of Ventus.
Donald and Goofy only met Ventus for a few minutes at most and easily forgot about him in the 11 years that have passed.
Goofy was never there for the banishment of Pete, and more than likely they assumed that Mickey had banished him.
The end.
Goofy was never there for the banishment of Pete, and more than likely they assumed that Mickey had banished him.
The end.
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