Regarding Master Xehanort...[SPOILERS AGAIN]

[Fagren]

Noooooooooo, all of you are wrong.. except those who aren't stupid.

Pureblood Heartless did not exist before Xehanort created them. He later created Emblems. This is confirmed in KH2. What you all saw was Ven being attacked by Unversed, of which are controlled by Vanitas.

MX has not heartless, nor a nobody.
Get this through your head people. There's a reason Nomura said that the heartless didn't exist during BBS.

Pick your face up from the floor because pure heartless were confirmed to exist in BBS.

 

[Genocide]

Fagman, whatever your name is, I was wrong, but don't you DARE call me on it. I lose gracefully if you let me. bitch
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'Noumra confirmed that Xehanort created the pureblood heartless twice. AND this was after he put it in an Ansem report.
Both KH1 and KH2.

It's called a retcon bitch. Learn it.

 

[Fagren]

Fagman, whatever your name is, I was wrong, but don't you DARE call me on it. I lose gracefully if you let me. bitch
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'Noumra confirmed that Xehanort created the pureblood heartless twice. AND this was after he put it in an Ansem report.
Both KH1 and KH2.

It's called a retcon bitch. Learn it.

It's called "That's what get for acting like you knew everything".You've been called out on it and now you mad.How hilarious, inb4retardedcomeback.

 

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HAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

 

[Genocide]

It's called "That's what get for acting like you knew everything".You've been called out on it and now you mad.How hilarious, inb4retardedcomeback.

Bitch I am right.
Nomura said it twice.
Then he put it in KH1 and KH2.

So that's four times. He lied and I believed it.
I'm not acting like shit. I act this way because I know.

But when Nomura cheated, the facts change. I was still right up until he retconned.
And until I saw that video, the game was still the same.

Again, it's called a retcon. If you weren't too stupid, you'd have read it.

 

[MeggieKeyblader]

OHMAIGAWD WHATTHEFUCKISTHISSHIT?

God, Nomura's a stupid jackass.
Why put Heartless in BBS after going out of his way to make that sure we understood heartless didn't exist back then?
Nomura's a bitch who needs to be fired and shot in the face.

Seriously, wtf?

Why is he changing all these things? They'res like no real facts that we can actually base stuff off of now, because everything seems to be changeable, even the concrete facts like this we THOUGH we had.


Nomura's annoying.facepalm


And yeah guys, Genocide is right. Nomura just changed facts around to fit the story.

 

[Genocide]

Nomura needs to be shot in the fucking face.

 

[Fagren]

Bitch I am right.
Nomura said it twice.
Then he put it in KH1 and KH2.

So that's four times. He lied and I believed it.
I'm not acting like shit. I act this way because I know.

But when Nomura cheated, the facts change. I was still right up until he retconned.
And until I saw that video, the game was still the same.

Again, it's called a retcon. If you weren't too stupid, you'd have read it.

Excuses doesn't make you right.You were wrong, got mad when you were proven wrong, now you're resorting to "lol I was right until I saw the truth".Fact is you were wrong all along.Get over it.

 

[MeggieKeyblader]

I really hope he doesn't change anything like this again... for example, I'm gonna get so pissed if we find out Terranort actually didn't lost his memories and lied in the Ansem Reports. I think it's cheap storytelling if he just changes shit around like the Heartless deal.


And Fagren, GENOCIDE WAS RIGHT... read the Ansem Reports. facepalm

 

[Fagren]

I really hope he doesn't change anything like this again... for example, I'm gonna get so pissed if we find out Terranort actually didn't lost his memories and lied in the Ansem Reports. I think it's cheap storytelling if he just changes shit around like the Heartless deal.


And Fagren, GENOCIDE WAS RIGHT... read the Ansem Reports. facepalm

My whole point is, he "would" have been right, but he's not now.Genocide got mad when I called him out on this.So mad that he negarepped saying "You're flaming me".That's why I find it hilarious because I haven't flamed at all while he's cursing at me lol.

 

[Killa DeX]

Agreed i had it concrete that there were absolutely no heartless cause they werent made during BBS's time but now there's heartless, so what we cant trust Noruma's word anymore? or he could have at least went back on his statement and told us this in like an interview or something

 

[Dentim]

Agreed i had it concrete that there were absolutely no heartless cause they werent made during BBS's time but now there's heartless, so what we cant trust Noruma's word anymore? or he could have at least went back on his statement and told us this in like an interview or something

True.
But it still doesn't mean Master Xehanort has a nobody. It was stated that they were a side effect of the creation of the Emblem Heartless and that hasn't been retconned yet.

 

[Genocide]

Excuses doesn't make you right.You were wrong, got mad when you were proven wrong, now you're resorting to "lol I was right until I saw the truth".Fact is you were wrong all along.Get over it.

Ansem Report 2 - This can be obtained after locking Agrabah.

The experiments caused the test subjects hearts to collapse, including those of the most stalwart. How fragile our hearts are!

My treatments proved no signs of recovery.

I confined those who had completely lost their hearts beneath the castle. Sometime later, I went below and was greeted by the most strangest sight.

Creatures that seemed born of Darkness.

What are they? Are they truly sentient beings? Could they be the shadows of those who lost their hearts to my experiments?

Ansem Report 3 - This can be obtained after defeating Ursula, in Atlantica

The shadows that crawl beneath the castle...

Are they people who lost their hearts, or incarnations of Darkness?

Or something entirely beyond imagination?

All my knowledge has provided no answer.

One thing that I am sure of is that they are entirely devoid of emotion. Perhaps further study will unlock the mysteries of the heart.

Fortunately, there is no shortage of test samples. They are multiplying underground even as I write this report. They still need a name.

Those who lack hearts..
I will call them the Heartless.

Ansem Reports - Kingdom Hearts Insider

Secret Ansem Report 5 In this realm, where all existence has been disintegrated, I have just barely managed to preserve my sense of self by continuing to think and write. It is a place where even time has lost all meaning. Eternity is but a moment here. I must make haste. Certainly their plans are already underway.

The heartless must be the key to unraveling this mystery. The six traitors were operating a laboratory that churned out those cursed shadows. Not only did they generate “pureblood” Heartless from living hearts, but they then used those Heartless to synthesize artificial versions of these creatures as well. These synthetic Heartless bore insignias and were called “Emblems.” Pureblood of Emblem, these Heartless act only to fulfill their instinctive needs. They single-mindedly detect hearts and swarm around them. A human’s command would be ineffective: the Heartless would easily steal the human’s heart and use it to increase their own ranks.

But what if an even stronger Heartless was giving the orders? If he cast aside his own soul and body and became a Heartless, wouldn’t he be able to control the otherwise intractable Heartless? Furthermore, wouldn’t he be planning to make use of the creatures’ instincts? If the heart-seeking Heartless have their sights set on a larger, more powerful heart, their goal is crystal-clear. The largest heart in existence – the heart of the world. This is all conjecture, but it would seem he is utilizing the Heartless in his search for a path leading to the heart of the world.

Secret Ansem Reports - Kingdom Hearts Insider

Are there new enemies you can confirm that are not shown in the screens?
TN: The new enemy is not a Heartless, or a Nobody. Because the story takes place before even they appear. I can give out more information little by little as time passes, an example being like the Shadow enemies that are heartless, and the Dusk enemies that are nobodies.

NI/KHBBS1 - Kingdom Hearts Ultimania

When the battle images were shown to the public, there was a new enemy that wasn't a heartless or a nobody, what is it?
TN: It is neither, a Heartless or a Nobody, this is a new type of enemy. Because the existence of these creatures came before Heartless and Nobodies a starting point needs to be imaged, and it became a wild concept to them.
YK: Basically it becomes wild. However, its moves are fast!

NI/KHBBS2 - Kingdom Hearts Ultimania
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My whole point is, he "would" have been right, but he's not now.Genocide got mad when I called him out on this.So mad that he negarepped saying "You're flaming me".That's why I find it hilarious because I haven't flamed at all while he's cursing at me lol.

orly?

t's called "That's what get for acting like you knew everything".You've been called out on it and now you mad.How hilarious, inb4retardedcomeback

Pick your face up from the floor because pure heartless were confirmed to exist in BBS.

You didn't say those things? I could get a link...

And I'm not mad. I'm laughing. This shit is funny to me. I don't get mad at trivial shit like this.
And when I call you a bitch, it's in the connotation of me saying "bitch plz" lol at LEafeon.
[link to reference]

And I negarepped you because it's funny. I don't care so much about the flaming. Hell, I love flame wars. Ask any of the platinums about me. In fact, ask Audo-oh wait, he's banned lol. But what about V.A>T.13, wait...she'd banned too shamisen
lol, I'm clever. hurrr. anywho, this is your first encounter with me, so don't get upset that I'm calling you a bitch. I called the old admin a homo. He changed the thread to "Fagging up the place" But I digress
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FUCK YOU FAGMAN, I am right. Nomura changed shit so I'm wrong. That doesn't mean I'm wrong. that mans he cheated. And needs to get shot in the face.

 

[Raiton Kensei]

Genocide posted what I was gonna say.

Ansem and his aprentices created heartless. Which in return created nobodies. So in BBS only unversed existed.

 

[roxasrwns]

Right now, its more like Xehanort discovered Purebloods, and then created Emblems.

 

[royaljminnis]

FUCK YOU FAGMAN, I am right. Nomura changed shit so I'm wrong. That doesn't mean I'm wrong. that mans he cheated. And needs to get shot in the face.

lol no dude your wrong cause the game says so then that games says no, well pretty much theres no winning here let the shooting of the face commence

also I would nega rep you but its the internenet and who gives a poop

 

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What does secret ansem report 5 prove?

 

[Raiton Kensei]

What does secret ansem report 5 prove?

It proves that Heartless weren't around until the aprentices started doing experiments on hearts, which wasnt until after BBS before KH1.

 

[Genocide]

That he created both purebloods and Enmblems.
AR2 says the expirement caused them to turn into Purebloods.

 

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It doesn't state they created the first pureblood heartless though.