Kingdom Hearts 3 Story Discussion

[Nukara]

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Guys, I do not believe in the theory that Oozora is a MoM. Given that a similar guy in a raincoat on the behavior similar to MoM, we saw at the end of the secret ending.
Although I have a very crazy theory that maybe Oozora is a student of Riku from the future sent to help the main characters in their search for Sora. Given the very large similarity between Oozora and Riku, I do not think that this is a simple coincidence.
What do you think about this?
Answer, please.))

 

[wolfshadow0118]

I haven't beaten the game yet...

..but I just did the battle with the union x players and I have to say that felt like a kick in the gut. I understand that Nomura said that the top players for whatever the challenge was, would have their name in the game, but I was thinking it would have been for like highscores placeholders or something. But with having them be used for a main story battle felt like none of our characters who got chosen are special too.

sorry for the rant.

 

[Zettaflare]

Seeing Toy Story in KH was definitely well worth the wait. So many emotional moments.

I also love the sick burns Woody threw at Young Xehanort. "No one ever loved you" made my jaw drop

 

[breaktheice16]

So the Chamber is Repose was completely ignored? I figured it would be, but was hoping it wouldn’t.

Besides that, I LOVED the story. Somethings were expected, but I was surprised by so much of it!! I haven’t not been spoiled by a KH game since the original CoM! So proud of myself haha

 

[shady543]

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I love how considering the way Aqua, Kairi, Namine and Xion get treated in the game, this means that Larxene will obviously forever be the best female character. No one can say otherwise, although Olette was really good too. <3

 

[FudgemintGuardian]

It's kinda funny how Nomura's thrown so much shade at FFXV being an incomplete game and yet KH3 feels like a considerable chunk of story is missing.


Like, for one example, how the heckdid Xion come back? What happened to Demyx? There's also how a lot of the cast and plotlines barely get much screentime. All that sequel bait.... I'm probably forgetting other examples, but while I do like most (emphasis on "most") of what happened, this stuff really bugged me.

It really felt like Nomura was more interested with the next game than giving this saga proper closer.

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Rewatching the final boss I just realized, Daybreak Town is under Scala Ad Caelum! In the water phase you can see the clock palace in the background, even the gears can be seen drifting.

That's interesting. Good catch!

 

[shady543]

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Oh yeah, that is another complaint I have as well. Considering the fact that all the trios plus Namine are on the cover, they hardly contribute except for the ending, again. I'm even surprised that Aqua doesn't get saved until late since I thought at least her and Ven would be saved halfway through. Poor Ven doesn't even get screentime until the final, and Axel and Kairi get shown early then kind of.... don't get shown at all until the end? Kairi doesn't change her outfit until endgame? I personally feel that Roxas should have been saved early during Twilight Town and Aqua and Ven should have been saved halfway but eh.

 

[Tartarus]

Seeing Toy Story in KH was definitely well worth the wait. So many emotional moments.

I also love the sick burns Woody threw at Young Xehanort. "No one ever loved you" made my jaw drop

I love that part! The dialogue in general is really good in this game, imo.

I feel like people (not you, just in general) are just salty that they had to wait sooooo long for a new "main game" when it turns out a lot if thise side games have actually been just as if not more important to the narrative then the numbered titles. Heck KH2 was mostly made pointless by BBS and DDD. And honestly I kinda wish KH2 had been a subtitled game just so that the series as a whole would have been treated as one linear story instead of anything "side-game" related. In fact, I'm willing to bet there will never be another numbered installment.

I've played all the games except Chi and the fact that they were all connected to the story in one way or another doesn't make up for the fact that they were substandard games, imo, and much lower quality than KH1, 2, and 3. More importantly, for people like me who cared very little about most of the new characters added to the series KH2-onwards, there's the fact that the only game that we've had of Sora (and Riku) moving forward in their storyline between 2006 and 2019 is 3D. I can't remember if the real Sora even appears in re:Coded or not, but if he did, it was only briefly.

 

[shady543]

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Yeah was going to say, KH2 was the last game we ever had a real game involving Sora/Donald/Goofy exploring Disney worlds and the gummi ship involvement. Literally all of the games post KH2 except for DDD didn't involve Sora, and Sora was hardly himself in that game (coded doesn't count). Not going to lie, I did enjoy getting involved with other character's stories outside of Sora (I actually really love BBS) and I gained a new major favourite character post KH2. I think we also need to consider the platforms that a lot of the games were on as well. Since the only other platform that the series could go on is the Switch, hopefully this means that any other games that get made won't get hold back like BBS, Days and DDD did.

I actually wouldn't mind if we got another game not from Sora or Riku's perspective post KH3, maybe on the switch. I'd be disappointed if the next game only involved them two considering I have a lot favourites outside of them. Just as long as it's not more than one. Even like a DLC side-plot or something.

 

[Zettaflare]

Just finished Monstropolis Randall really should have been a boss. I was hoping we would fight him after the Unversed boss. Though him manipulating the factory into a series of Saw like traps was hilarious. Also like how Sully and Mike saved Sora from Vanitas. That was totally unexpected

I love that part! The dialogue in general is really good in this game, imo.

I know right?there is a lot of creative dialogue that's both hilarious and emotionally gripping.

 

[Miasthma]

Okay, I keep seeing people mention secret reports in KH3, but I have absolutely no idea how anyone got them in-game. I had no idea there even were any to be obtained. I certainly never got any from anywhere. Unless they are post-game battlegate prizes? Like...wat?

 

[UltimaXOmega]

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I give it a 9/10. Treatment of original worlds stop it from being a 10. I cried almost every time Xion appeared. Also WTF at tthe Xigbar scene.

 

[ImVentus]

It really felt like Nomura was more interested with the next game than giving this saga proper closer.

Taking the words right out of my mouth.

 

[Sephiroth0812]

It really felt like Nomura was more interested with the next game than giving this saga proper closer.

Yea, I got that vibe too when reading about spoilers of the endgame stuff.

It feels at least in parts as if Nomura wanted to "get over with" the current saga as quick as possible and resolve the mess he himself somewhat created in one giant big bang with so much being crammed into the finale marathon that much feels not in-depth enough.

Mentally he's probably already completely entangled and invested in the ideas and concepts for the new saga to which UX serves as the groundwork with some elements from KH III thrown in.

Thing is though, the new saga has the potential to become an even greater mess if it is approached with the same mindset as the just resolved one and has on top also a bunch of new, more complex concepts thrown in.

 

[NobodyImportant]

Okay, I keep seeing people mention secret reports in KH3, but I have absolutely no idea how anyone got them in-game. I had no idea there even were any to be obtained. I certainly never got any from anywhere. Unless they are post-game battlegate prizes? Like...wat?

Yes, they're rewards for those. Some are really tough.so watch out.

 

[Efflictim]

So I beat it. Loved the gameplay/worlds and some of the more hype moments, i.e. Yen Sid, Lingering Will, etc.. But yeah, the story jumps head first off a cliff once you reach The Final World. Glossing over shit like Luxord's card and LW vs. Terranort was an... interesting decision. The endgame dragged on for way too long and the countless Demon Tower fights throughout the entire game made me want to vomit.

I think my biggest issue, however, was the amount of reliance Nomura put on the player's knowledge of KHUX. If Nomura knew how important that story would be to KH3's plot, then why not make that a more accessible, fleshed-out console/handheld title to reach a wider audience, or provide a more in-depth recap than Back Cover? While Days, Coded, BbS, and DDD laid the groundwork for KH3, it ended up feeling like those games took a back seat to KHUX in the end and felt less impactful.

What it ended up doing - for me at least - was make KH3 feel more like a side game, or a bridge to the next chapter instead of a true finale to a 17-year journey. The constant winks towards KHUX just got annoying after a while, especially when it started to bite into the plot more towards the end of the game.

It's sad because I absolutely love the gameplay, but the story is just so all over the place, even by Nomura's standards, that it significantly hurt my experience with the game. Upon reflection, it just feels like Nomura didn't know what kind of game he wanted this to be.

Also the "btw sora's dead lol" shit was dumb, fight me.

 

[eiczerofour]

Okay, I keep seeing people mention secret reports in KH3, but I have absolutely no idea how anyone got them in-game. I had no idea there even were any to be obtained. I certainly never got any from anywhere. Unless they are post-game battlegate prizes? Like...wat?

They are post game battle gates.

 

[Miasthma]

Yes, they're rewards for those. Some are really tough.so watch out.

I see. Thanks for the info!

 

[FudgemintGuardian]

For me, the worst thing that happened, worse than scenes once again existing solely for having cool stuff in the trailers. Worse than plotlines happening and characters appearing, only to just be forgotten about. Worse than certain characters being idiots. Worse than the very blatant plotholes (how the heck can you forget that Pence is helping Sora, Ansem?) Worse than suddenly introducing a new character for us to pretend to care about. Worse than that easily missable cutscene!

No, what the worst thing was rewinding time after Sora rescued everybody. I don't know how those playing it felt, but as someone who was watching the scenes online I seriously thought the video glitched back. Like, Sora saves everyone, Kairi beings him back. The whole thing is acknowledged, and then events just...repeats itself like everyone forgot what happened.

I just don't see the point of it. Why did this happen? Why not just have them reappear before Terranort and have him get angry at their revival? Could they not afford to make another scene? Why, why, why???

Yea, I got that vibe too when reading about spoilers of the endgame stuff.

It feels at least in parts as if Nomura wanted to "get over with" the current saga as quick as possible and resolve the mess he himself somewhat created in one giant big bang with so much being crammed into the finale marathon that much feels not in-depth enough.

Mentally he's probably already completely entangled and invested in the ideas and concepts for the new saga to which UX serves as the groundwork with some elements from KH III thrown in.

Thing is though, the new saga has the potential to become an even greater mess if it is approached with the same mindset as the just resolved one and has on top also a bunch of new, more complex concepts thrown in.

^ This. How can I trust the next game will be better when this one was treated so poorly? Nomura has put himself in a bad position by rushing through the plot of this game.

 

[Ballad of Caius]

Just finished Kingdom of Corona. I absolutely loved it! A lot of attention to detail went into it. And I concur with the member that said that Marluxia is a competent villain in this world. I also love how there are callbacks to events from KH1 that make Sora reflective of what happens to characters from the worlds.

Am about to start Monstropolis.