Kairi's keyblade?

[Zubine]

Im not sure if this belong on this forum or not but whatever here it goes: Remember when Kairi got to use the keyblade in KH2? Riku said that he 'remembered' something and that's how he summoned it? What if he somehow remembered Xion and thats how he was able to summon that flower keyblade thing? I just though of this now maybe its worth something to someone

 

[WwhiptailwW]

I doubt it, but it could be possible I suppose. But if he did remember Xion, it must not have been a very vivid memory, otherwise he may have mentioned her to someone.

 

[Smile]

Remember when Kairi got to use the keyblade in KH2? Riku said that he 'remembered' something and that's how he summoned it? What if he somehow remembered Xion and thats how he was able to summon that flower keyblade thing? I just though of this now maybe its worth something to someone

I was afraid this would somehow link to Kairi being a Wielder. Thank god.
I actually theorized about this a good long while ago.
http://forums.khinsider.com/future-kingdom-hearts/116547-xion-namin-kairi-s-keyblade.html
Seeing my views on him Duel Wielding, however, I'd sooner blame that Memory resurfacing on Xehanort's Heartless' Memories of wielding a Keyblade resurfacing, and hence - Duel Wielding Riku.
Though to be fair, that still doesn't contradict that along the way, Memories of Xion were pulled out, and hence the DI Keychain, as it ties in both with Xion looking like Kairi, Kairi being from the Islands, and Riku interacting with Xion on the Islands as well.

 

[Endless Warrior Sora]

When Xion was died, this forced everyone who knew her to forget about her. Though it may be possible since the essential memories are still there, but the last time I checked, she only used the Kingdom Key.

 

[Smile]

What Xion herself used doesn't matter as the Keychain would've surfaced from Memories inside Riku. He'd have to remember Xion, not... the other way around. XD

 

[UnstoppableSound]

Im not sure if this belong on this forum or not but whatever here it goes: Remember when Kairi got to use the keyblade in KH2? Riku said that he 'remembered' something and that's how he summoned it? What if he somehow remembered Xion and thats how he was able to summon that flower keyblade thing? I just though of this now maybe its worth something to someone

Wow. Points for you, I did not think of that.
The only problem is I don't think they had the concept of Xion developed at that time. Though who knows how much earlier they planned 358/2 Days.

Nice job pointing this out once again.

 

[State]

Im not sure if this belong on this forum or not but whatever here it goes: Remember when Kairi got to use the keyblade in KH2? Riku said that he 'remembered' something and that's how he summoned it? What if he somehow remembered Xion and thats how he was able to summon that flower keyblade thing? I just though of this now maybe its worth something to someone

Correction, [I]Riku's[/I] keyblade, not Kairi's, he just lend it to her. It's been stated various time since Xion is a memory, after she get's erased, no one and nothing will remember her, she said it during her last moments in the Roxas Vs. Riku battle at TWTNW's Memory Skyscraper.

 

[Smile]

Correction, [I]Riku's[/I] keyblade, not Kairi's, he just lend it to her. It's been stated various time since Xion is a memory, after she get's erased, no one and nothing will remember her, she said it during her last moments in the Roxas Vs. Riku battle at TWTNW's Memory Skyscraper.

1) he never said the Keyblade was Kairi's o.o; in fact, this whole thing was to show what it was that got Riku to wield it. What better way to get us all to get what he's talking about than say "the Keyblade Kairi used" though? Hell, he didn't even say anything about that out of place. Kairi did indeed use that Keyblade, regardless of where it came from.
2) The Memories are still inside his Heart. Even when Sora couldn't remember Kairi properly, he could still somehow use the Oathkeeper in CoM (Cards = him having the Memories to form them out of). Hence, Riku wouldn't need to actively remember Xion, just have Kairi serve as the trigger for those Memories to resurface and give basis to the Keychain.

 

[Saix's bane]

1)
2) The Memories are still inside his Heart. Even when Sora couldn't remember Kairi properly, he could still somehow use the Oathkeeper in CoM (Cards = him having the Memories to form them out of). Hence, Riku wouldn't need to actively remember Xion, just have Kairi serve as the trigger for those Memories to resurface and give basis to the Keychain.

Holy shit. That is right. This theory has some potential. I likey.

 

[Smile]

I theorized it ages ago XD; It would indeed be sweet if XH's Memories of wielding dragged out along with them Riku's Memories of Xion, hence giving him both another Keyblade as well as the Keychain on it. Since Riku forgot Xion, the delinked Memories would no doubt sink into the Darkness of his Heart - where XH was lurking. The Memories together would bubble up, hence giving us the Keyblade

 

[DestinyKid]

im starting to like this :lol:

 

[Endless Warrior Sora]

I theorized it ages ago XD; It would indeed be sweet if XH's Memories of wielding dragged out along with them Riku's Memories of Xion, hence giving him both another Keyblade as well as the Keychain on it. Since Riku forgot Xion, the delinked Memories would no doubt sink into the Darkness of his Heart - where XH was lurking. The Memories together would bubble up, hence giving us the Keyblade

When Ansem the Wise died, didnt that wipe out XH? Is so, then after that happened, couldn't the memory have resurfaced, giving Riku the incentive to give Kairi the keyblade? Even if all these theories were correct, how does the Keyblade relate to Xion?

 

[Smile]

When Ansem the Wise died, didnt that wipe out XH? Is so, then after that happened, couldn't the memory have resurfaced, giving Riku the incentive to give Kairi the keyblade?

If we go by the likely theory that XH was why Riku even had that Keyblade, and seeing how Xemnas didn't care about Kairi as far as Keyblade wielders went, I think it's safe to say the "Gayblade" took off with XH.

Even if all these theories were correct, how does the Keyblade relate to Xion?

The Keychain, basically.

 

[Reverie]

Technically, the Keyblade is not really Kairi's. True, it was named "Kairi's Keyblade", but it's not really her's. she actually borrowed it from Riku.

 

[Smile]

1) The interviewer in Another Report was the one that said it, and Nomura went along with it.
2) It's easier saying "Kairi's Keyblade" than "the Keyblade Riku gave Kairi". Especially since I think most of us didn't have time to recover from the shock of Riku pulling out another one before we had to deal with Kairi holding it 8D

 

[Igshar]

When Ansem the Wise died, didnt that wipe out XH? Is so, then after that happened, couldn't the memory have resurfaced, giving Riku the incentive to give Kairi the keyblade? Even if all these theories were correct, how does the Keyblade relate to Xion?

But Ansem dies after Riku gives Kairi the Gayblade. =X

The Keychain on it relates to the Paopu fruit which is clearly something very very important as

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Aqua mentions its skin and makes charms identical to those little flower ones in Birth By Sleep

It definitely has some deep connection with Kairi and, by extension, Xion, as
she was based off of memories of Kairi

So yeah, I think Smile and the OP may be right on target here. o-o; I don't like avoiding the idea that the charm is identical to the one Namine gave Sora+Repliku in CoM, though. >>; *still gonna stand by Grace Assassin's theory here*

 

[Smile]

But Ansem dies after Riku gives Kairi the Gayblade. =X

I'm half afraid he means it as "give permanently to Kairi".
I hope I'm wrong.

It definitely has some deep connection with Kairi and, by extension, Xion, as
she was based off of memories of Kairi

Namely, the face, and Riku meeting Xion on the playground island

So yeah, I think Smile and the OP may be right on target here. o-o; I don't like avoiding the idea that the charm is identical to the one Namine gave Sora+Repliku in CoM, though. >>; *still gonna stand by Grace Assassin's theory here*

You mean that Repliku's Memories went into Riku, Much like how Xion gave back the Memories she took from Sora?
Meh. Never saw the relation in that aspect.
As for the charm, it's a Paopu fruit. Repeating motif doesn't make it a connecting motif.

 

[Igshar]

I'm half afraid he means it as "give permanently to Kairi".
I hope I'm wrong.

How he wrote it, it seemed he was talking as though Riku gave the Keyblade to Kairi after being purified, which isn't the case. >>; I hope you're wrong on that, too...

Namely, the face, and Riku meeting Xion on the playground island

This is true, but a single visit to the island wouldn't, in my opinion, make Xion so connected to it that her memories manifest themselves in way of a Paopu charm.

Not sure if that counts as spoilers, but better safe than sorry.

You mean that Repliku's Memories went into Riku, Much like how Xion gave back the Memories she took from Sora?

That and his really long Unversed one I read yesterday which basically says Repliku giving his memories back to Riku awakened the second Keyblade (Gayblade) within Riku in much the same way as Xion returning to Roxas/Sora awakened the second one there. The Charm is connected to Repliku closely.

Meh. Never saw the relation in that aspect.
As for the charm, it's a Paopu fruit. Repeating motif doesn't make it a connecting motif.

It's a fruit found, apparently, only on Destiny Islands. That in itself makes it connecting, as anyone who knows of it must have been to Destiny Islands at one point in time, or at least heard of it from someone who went to Destiny Islands.

 

[Smile]

This is true, but a single visit to the island wouldn't, in my opinion, make Xion so connected to it that her memories manifest themselves in way of a Paopu charm.

It's a tricky one, and I'll tell you just why.

There's quite a few days in which Riku and Xion were apparently together, but we've no idea what went on there. As the Ultimania itself said - [quote=Ultimania]Riku helps Xion, and explains about Sora. After this they will work together for a time.[/quote]
This goes on for about 20 days. Quite a bit could happen during that time, especially seeing how this period of time began with them meeting on DI and ending with Xion and Riku showing up before Axel and Roxas in TLTW.

That and his really long Unversed one I read yesterday which basically says Repliku giving his memories back to Riku awakened the second Keyblade (Gayblade) within Riku in much the same way as Xion returning to Roxas/Sora awakened the second one there. The Charm is connected to Repliku closely.

This is more to him than to you but since you're the messenger:
Xion's Memories had within them Memories of wielding a Keyblade, not the Soul Eater. And then of course we have Ven complicating things. More so than the act of her giving Roxas the Memories back waking the Keyblade up, I'd put my money on what Memories she gave back, linking back to Ven.
To top it all, Roxas was seen with both Keyblades immediately after the Xion fight. Riku most likely had a period of time with a single Keyblade, before the Memories would've 'kicked in'. And if Memories of Kairi pulled it along I fail to see why give so much significance to an act that took place more than a year before.

It's a fruit found, apparently, only on Destiny Islands. That in itself makes it connecting, as anyone who knows of it must have been to Destiny Islands at one point in time, or at least heard of it from someone who went to Destiny Islands.

But that's my point exactly. Saying Riku had the Paopu charm on a Keyblade that was no doubt based on DI in design linked to anything is saying Aqua and Riku are related because she knew about the Paopu too :\ it's a motif. People will know about it and give it form. Just because two people used it doesn't make them related in the sense you're trying to argue.

 

[Azrael]

I'm going to bet that "Kairi's" Keyblade was from Riku absorbing Repliku since like the original Riku, I bet that the clone could meet the requirements of wielding the Keyblade.