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Re: Do Sora's & Ven's Hearts share feelings?

Like mabey Ven's heart is inside Roxas and Sora at the same time? or am I just twisting things?

Wait he could still use the same keyblade he is sora's body and soul so the keys would be the same. Wouldn't they?
 

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Re: Do Sora's & Ven's Hearts share feelings?

Like mabey Ven's heart is inside Roxas and Sora at the same time? or am I just twisting things?

Wait he could still use the same keyblade he is sora's body and soul so the keys would be the same. Wouldn't they?

Um, no. They were using two different Keyblades. One was Ven's, the other Sora's. How can a heart be in two places at once?
 

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Re: Do Sora's & Ven's Hearts share feelings?

No I mean that's why they look the same "kingdom key'
 

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No I mean that's why they look the same "kingdom key'

I'm not sure why either Sora or Roxas has that keychain actually, since Ven's memories are supposed to be dormant. Yet again, Sora and Roxas are basically two sides of the same coin, so it doesn't suprise me that they would have the same keychain.
 

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Re: Do Sora's & Ven's Hearts share feelings?

TIME TRAVEL!

Ok so mabey not but sora could duelweild due to Roxas ( and Roxas could becuase of Xion), and Xion could weild becuase of Sora...... Am I confusing myself already?
 

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Re: Do Sora's & Ven's Hearts share feelings?

TIME TRAVEL!

Ok so mabey not but sora could duelweild due to Roxas ( and Roxas could becuase of Xion), and Xion could weild becuase of Sora...... Am I confusing myself already?

Yes, yes your are........
 

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No I don't think I am......... Ven has a key, Roxas has a key, Sora has a key, Xion has a key, but It doesn't matter their all connected so they can. The question is do Ven, Roxas and Sora share emotions.
 

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Re: Do Sora's & Ven's Hearts share feelings?

Um, no. They were using two different Keyblades. One was Ven's, the other Sora's. How can a heart be in two places at once?

Nomura said that the keyblade that Roxas and Sora used were the same one, and that both used it at the same time.
 
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Re: Do Sora's & Ven's Hearts share feelings?

No I don't think I am......... Ven has a key, Roxas has a key, Sora has a key, Xion has a key, but It doesn't matter their all connected so they can. The question is do Ven, Roxas and Sora share emotions.

Xion's key is fake. Roxas key is Sora's.
 

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Re: Do Sora's & Ven's Hearts share feelings?

Roxas is Sora's body and soul and through the mystic power of kingdom plot holes he and Sora can both weild the same keyblade at the same time. Sora most likely could have been dual weilding since kh1. But he didnt because that power had yet to be awakened. As Sora's nobody Roxas shared this sleeping power until Xions death. The trauma of the event was the "key" to unlocking this power for Roxas. When Roxaas returned to Sora he also awakened Soras ability to dual weild. But the dual weild ability itself come from Sora connection to Vens heart.
 

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Re: Do Sora's & Ven's Hearts share feelings?

You may be a PMF be I'm pretty sure your just PMSing.

Oh wow, a joke from 2005. How clever. [/sarcasm]

Look Ven's heart did become a part of sora's be it was slpit away from sora when he sacraficed himself. Roxas's heart can't be made up of sora's and ven's heart. THERE CAN ONLY BE ONE.

And why exactly not?

And when I say body a tend to mean body and soul since they don't really split up that much.

Shells. Got it.

Roxas was made up of Sora's body and soul and Ven's heart as a said befor.

If only you had said Sora's and Ven's heart.

And can you even explain to me what a hearts Truly. CAN ANY OF US?!?!

An in depth definition with blatantly canon reference points? Well, I'm not sure. I don't think I can, but then again, I'm not a retarded fangirl, so I can't really say what a heart is with the works.

I can say this though:

A heart. The basic fundamental entity that controls who we are and what we are. A heart, something so simple, yet so complex determines so much to who we are. It determines our ages, physical appearance, even our gender. Certainly there must be some sort of clue inside as to what a heart is. Unfortunately, there is not. All research on this subject is only fictional, and cannot be referenced directly. But with this I intend to figure out what a heart is.

Before you are born, your heart passes through a place called the Station of Awakening…or Chamber of Waking. Whatever Nomura’s calling it these days. A bright orb of light carrying all the data of the person to be traverses this empty room. It enters a sort of apex before it crosses over into the realm of light. But it is not seen doing so. It goes inside of the body to be born and then… it’s…born. Now, I’m just a simple fireman/ porn star/ adventurer/ slacker, but before a baby is born, it has to enter the womb via means of “donor material“. And I’ve seen enough hentai to know that this “donor material” is white and shiny, just like a heart. That has no purpose, I only thought it was funny. The donor material makes a baby, and the baby grows through phases; embryo, fetus, etc. This whole time, this entity to be born lacks a heart. One could say that it share’s its mother’s heart, but I think I’m going too far back. The point of this paragraph is to say “GENETICS BE DAMNED.” This explains physical appearance.

A bastard youth by the name of Ven forsook his family and followed a man to the ends of the worlds as his apprentice. This man’s name…is Master Xehanort; effectively known as MX from here on out. Through an event unforeseeable by his parents, Ven’s heart became split into 2: Ventus, the original, and Vanitas, his darker half. This caused Ven to go into a coma. Considering that our heart is what makes us what we are, it’d make sense that he’d go to sleep once his heart fractured. His heart, being programmed to do what it does sought to return to Kingdom Hearts. As it passed through the Station of Awakening for what would be it’s final return to the source, the heart of fate was born; a boy called Sora [you say the whole thing] Ven’s heart asked Sora’s heart if it could sponge off of it for a while, and Sora being who he was, said yes. Ven’s heart, being the leech like it did, took refuse in Sora’s heart. And that, altered sora’s appearance to look like Ven. So it’s not so much as Roxas looks like Ven, it’s the Roxas looks like Sora who looks like Ven.
At the age Ven connected his heart to Sora’s was his mid teens. So when Sora in HIS teens released his heart, it released Ven’s heart, which was permanently frozen at the age of 15. At the same time, Sora released Kairi’s heart at the same time. Kairi’s heart used Sora’s shell as an intermediary to create Namine, a femanle nobody.

All in all I can say this, judging by the info given in game about the heart, one could say that the heart is the essential building block for a person. Without it, the shell is just a blank, pointless, empty, nonessential husk with no identity. Considering that the heart is not only our gender, it determines our age, appearance, and who you are, I’d say that our shell without our heart, has no real identity of our own. The heart, for all intents and purposes, is a sort of identification card. And given that the heart is also the proof of life, I’d also say that without one, in the KH Universe, your ass is…Grass.

Alright I get it now. But whaddya mean by " It's been confirmed since 2004" how is that possible.

chain of memories...duh.
 
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I agree with the Roxas = Sora's Shell + (1/4 Sora's + 1/4 Ven's Heart) therory.

Also wow, Genocide you put a lot of thought into the heart. I would probably have just said: It contains ones memories, emotions as well as ones darkness and light. I wouldn't have thought of the rest.
 

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Re: Do Sora's & Ven's Hearts share feelings?

Oh wow, a joke from 2005. How clever. [/sarcasm]



And why exactly not?



Shells. Got it.



If only you had said Sora's and Ven's heart.



An in depth definition with blatantly canon reference points? Well, I'm not sure. I don't think I can, but then again, I'm not a retarded fangirl, so I can't really say what a heart is with the works.

I can say this though:

A heart. The basic fundamental entity that controls who we are and what we are. A heart, something so simple, yet so complex determines so much to who we are. It determines our ages, physical appearance, even our gender. Certainly there must be some sort of clue inside as to what a heart is. Unfortunately, there is not. All research on this subject is only fictional, and cannot be referenced directly. But with this I intend to figure out what a heart is.

Before you are born, your heart passes through a place called the Station of Awakening…or Chamber of Waking. Whatever Nomura’s calling it these days. A bright orb of light carrying all the data of the person to be traverses this empty room. It enters a sort of apex before it crosses over into the realm of light. But it is not seen doing so. It goes inside of the body to be born and then… it’s…born. Now, I’m just a simple fireman/ porn star/ adventurer/ slacker, but before a baby is born, it has to enter the womb via means of “donor material“. And I’ve seen enough hentai to know that this “donor material” is white and shiny, just like a heart. That has no purpose, I only thought it was funny. The donor material makes a baby, and the baby grows through phases; embryo, fetus, etc. This whole time, this entity to be born lacks a heart. One could say that it share’s its mother’s heart, but I think I’m going too far back. The point of this paragraph is to say “GENETICS BE DAMNED.” This explains physical appearance.

A bastard youth by the name of Ven forsook his family and followed a man to the ends of the worlds as his apprentice. This man’s name…is Master Xehanort; effectively known as MX from here on out. Through an event unforeseeable by his parents, Ven’s heart became split into 2: Ventus, the original, and Vanitas, his darker half. This caused Ven to go into a coma. Considering that our heart is what makes us what we are, it’d make sense that he’d go to sleep once his heart fractured. His heart, being programmed to do what it does sought to return to Kingdom Hearts. As it passed through the Station of Awakening for what would be it’s final return to the source, the heart of fate was born; a boy called Sora [you say the whole thing] Ven’s heart asked Sora’s heart if it could sponge off of it for a while, and Sora being who he was, said yes. Ven’s heart, being the leech like it did, took refuse in Sora’s heart. And that, altered sora’s appearance to look like Ven. So it’s not so much as Roxas looks like Ven, it’s the Roxas looks like Sora who looks like Ven.
At the age Ven connected his heart to Sora’s was his mid teens. So when Sora in HIS teens released his heart, it released Ven’s heart, which was permanently frozen at the age of 15. At the same time, Sora released Kairi’s heart at the same time. Kairi’s heart used Sora’s shell as an intermediary to create Namine, a femanle nobody.

All in all I can say this, judging by the info given in game about the heart, one could say that the heart is the essential building block for a person. Without it, the shell is just a blank, pointless, empty, nonessential husk with no identity. Considering that the heart is not only our gender, it determines our age, appearance, and who you are, I’d say that our shell without our heart, has no real identity of our own. The heart, for all intents and purposes, is a sort of identification card. And given that the heart is also the proof of life, I’d also say that without one, in the KH Universe, your ass is…Grass.



chain of memories...duh.

Wow. Genocide, you jsut put an amazing amount of thought into the Heart. If we still had rep, I'd rep you right this instant.

I agree with the Roxas = Sora's Shell + (1/4 Sora's + 1/4 Ven's Heart) therory.

Thank you for finding sense in my theory.
 

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Re: Do Sora's & Ven's Hearts share feelings?

I am starting to agree with the Roxas = Sora's Shell + (1/4 Sora's + 1/4 Ven's Heart) theory but I have a question.

Since Ven and Sora's heart are basically one heart now, 1/2 of Sora's heart was in Roxas. How can Sora survive with only half a heart?
 

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How can half a heart exist as a human?
 

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As a matter of fact, I was referring to you.
 

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Re: Do Sora's & Ven's Hearts share feelings?

I am starting to agree with the Roxas = Sora's Shell + (1/4 Sora's + 1/4 Ven's Heart) theory but I have a question.

Since Ven and Sora's heart are basically one heart now, 1/2 of Sora's heart was in Roxas. How can Sora survive with only half a heart?

How can half a heart exist as a human?

Okay, this is the part where Kairi, Xion, and Namine come in. Like many of you do know, Kairi made a vessel of light for Sora. Since they have a strong connection to each other, Sora was able to connect to Kairi's Heart, but on a much smaller scale then Ventus did. However, that would not last forever. When Namine took apart Sora's memories, it damaged and broke the connection Sora had with Kairi's Heart, although the light vessel still stayed in tact. Due to this fracture, Sora's memories flowed into Xion. However, not only the memories got into Xion, but Sora's stability was almost gone as well. Thus, Sora could not wake up until not only with all of his memories, but the other half of his Heart as well, the part which Roxas contained.
 
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