Master T said:
I suppose it depends on the person. I don't care if you donate or not, so I don't think it's wrong.
You can choose if you agree with the person's opinion on right or wrong or not, so you still decide.
Atheism vs. Religion
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I suppose it depends on the person. I don't care if you donate or not, so I don't think it's wrong.
You can choose if you agree with the person's opinion on right or wrong or not, so you still decide.
*makes finger/gun gesture*Hollow Bastion said:
Boo yah.
Going even deeper, I would think that figures in high power influence society's dictation on virtues and virtue-ethics. Hitler would be a popular example. If you go back, former society influenced that individual to think that way, so it's really one big cycle of influence. I only wish I had more to bring to the table on this discussion.
Anyway, I think I kind of strayed from this vague topic's mission, so are there any questions anyone would like to discuss?
Did Hitler truly influence the German public, or did he just amplify their views?
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Bit of both I guess.
Why would the entire German public have a dormant enmity for the Jews in the first place, if the latter is true? Perhaps Hitler just had a slick tongue for persuasion?Square Ninja said:
People are egotistical, so I guess it can be said true when Hitler amplified views, just perhaps not the hatred of the 'brews.
That was the view of German's general public?
How did that come?
How did that come?
To understand the 1930's-40's Anti-sematism, you must look at how Prussia became a world power prior to the turn of the 20th century. The kaiser at the time (I forget his name.) saw all of these industrious Jewish people in surrounding countries, so he decides to give them land if they come to Prussia. Thanks to the Jewish workers, Prussia thrives. After awhile, the kaiser, for some reason, decided that he didn't need the Jews anymore, so he started to kick them out and many left the state. The lack of those workers during World War I was seen to be partly to blame for Prussia's defeat. That is what caused the Anti-sematism in Germany. It laid dormant until Hitler started stirring up the pot, so to speak.
MaserT said:
Supposedly this is what we have a conscience and ethics for. Although I enjoy my claim that I have no conscience.
But truthfully, it's all down to culture. Where and how we are brought up affects how we see certain things, it's all based off of our conditioning, whether natural or otherwise.Some, if I may not claim many, religions frown harshly upon those who do not try to convert non-beleivers. These religions are self preservant in that the members are either convinced to beleive or are forced.
RiseAgainst said:
To some point this is what I beleive, but also I have acknowledged other efforts behind it, some less selfish and malicious. Benevolent efforts have also backed many religions on many occasions.
Noblethe3rd said:
I don't beleive scientism so much to be a religion as a philosophy, as is confucianism. I'd better define religion as a spiritual beleif standing. But then again this is simply my opinion.
Noblethe3rd said:
*applauds* Almost word for word what I've tried telling people so many times. Religion is a safehouse.
Square Ninja said:
Actually that would have been Josef Goebbels, but I realise your point. Fooling the mind of people is actually really easy. They're done memory experiments before, you couldn't beleive how easy it is to convince someone that something that hasn't happened, has. Admitted that many Germans probably already had some dormant anti-semitic beleifs, I can assure you the majority who followed Hitler did so simply out of respect for a genius mind.
Breaking Point said:
The only religion that I know of that does that is Christianity. Islam for example, accepts other peoples religions and acknowledges chirstian prophets. Maybe the reason there are so many atheists in america is the fact they were exposed to only chritianity.
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No, you'll most likely start devising conspiracy theories about brainwashing and such.
I love how you seem to think that Christianity is so much more corrupt than any other religion.
You could consider it to be more corrupt if you just stood it next to another religion for a comparison. What you have to take into account is that Christian is much larger than any other religion, which invariably makes the corruption look larger when that isn't necessarily true.
You could consider it to be more corrupt if you just stood it next to another religion for a comparison. What you have to take into account is that Christian is much larger than any other religion, which invariably makes the corruption look larger when that isn't necessarily true.
Square Ninja said:
It was started by the Kaiser? So because the Kaiser felt like he didn't need the Jews anymore, the ideology that Jews are unnecessary spread some how?
And since you know that, do you think you could explain racism in America?
There was racism against immigrants, but more so against blacks.
I understand there is resentment left from the emancipation of slavery, but why is the blame put on the backs of the feckless blacks?
quitejaded said:
No, the Kaiser at the time felt he didn't need to give the Jews so many benefits for living in Prussia, so he stopped giving them to the Jews. The Jews left, Prussia lost in WWI, and the Germans used the Jews as a scapegoat.
quitejaded said:
The issue of racism in the United States is an entirerly different matter better suited for a different thread.
It all makes sense now!Square Ninja said:
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