Why do you dislike Religion/ the religious?

[Onasi]

For all those atheists out there who don't like religion or the religious post why.

I think religion and the religious are holding back society and what it can do. Most notable in Government and Science.

How about you?

 

[RTP49]

moooom do we have to have so many portraits of the virgin mary around the house theyre so laaaaame but mooooooooooooooooooooooom

 

[Wehrmacht]

I don't necessarily dislike religion as in the belief itself (since there are and have been good things with it), but I certainly don't like its incredible amount of obnoxious, bigoted followers who largely think that just because you don't wake up early in the morning on Sunday to go pay thanks to a invisible, faceless deity that you don't believe exists is unworthy of stepping on the same ground they do and that you'll lead to society's collapse. It's fine that you have your beliefs and set of principles, but you shouldn't think yourself so great that you feel the need that everyone else live that way.

That is not to say that anyone who is irreligious is automatically innocent of the same crime, but that's another story.

I don't believe religion need be destroyed, but the less amount of people who are willing to blow up abortion clinics in the name of it, the better.

In summation:

I like your Christ; I do not like your christians

Although the quote directs christians in particular, it applies to religion as a whole.

 

[krexia]

I don't like that parents can indoctrinate children with their own beliefs - this applies to more than just religion of course, but terrifying kids with ideas of hell and eternal damnation can have demonstrable negative effects on the psyche.

I don't like that parents likewise deny their children - minors who are unable to make decisions for themselves - proper medical care based on religious beliefs. Again, this applies to others as well, like vegans who don't give their kids proper nourishment.

I don't like that religious views about the world have impeded the progress of science whenever discoveries contrary to established beliefs are made.

I don't like that religion is used as an excuse to justify countless atrocities - wars, massacres, and even now people are burned alive for being witches (or the local equivalent) in many parts of the world.

I don't like that a person's faith alone is used as a judge of their character; that people will vote for a candidate based on their religious views without knowing anything at all about their actual policies.

I don't like that laws are made based on religious beliefs rather than considerations of what is best for the people.

I don't like that many religious people flat-out refuse to discuss certain topics because they bring their faith into question; I can't stand this kind of wilful intellectual ignorance.

I don't like that just by labelling something a "belief" it can be put in a magical category where reasoning doesn't apply.

 

[Destiny of Sora]

vegans who don't give their kids proper nourishment

ive never heard of this

 

[soraworldseen]

What I don't like is that other religions try to debate against my religion and say that it is wrong. And the main religious folks will call you out of your name and down you, saying that you're supposed to be "christ like", but Christ never downed anyone so technically they aren't being christ like either.

Anybody ever seen Friday Night Cranks with Shirley Phelps on Youtube? Prime example. >_>

 

[Derick_Shadow13]

I'm against religion, and other groups that control the masses through lies.
Christianity = Biggest lie in the history of humanity.

 

[RTP49]

i suplex bearsssssssschea

 

[Urbane]

Again, this applies to others as well, like vegans who don't give their kids proper nourishment.

You know, I'm vegetarian, nearly vegan, and I'm doing just fine.

Well, I agree with pretty much every reason stated in this thread.

 

[Azrael]

Religion prevents the encouragement of free thought and expression while it usually supports a conservative power structure and a stagnant, isolationalist society.

Some religious ideals are good in theory yet could never be implemented in human civilization and I'm pretty sure that a man named Yeshua bar Yosef existed in first century Judea but that he was a socialist by modern standards.

 

[Onasi]

Religion prevents the encouragement of free thought and expression while it usually supports a conservative power structure and a stagnant, isolationalist society.

Some religious ideals are good in theory yet could never be implemented in human civilization and I'm pretty sure that a man named Yeshua bar Yosef existed in first century Judea but that he was a socialist by modern standards.

No sane man would follow all the rules of any holy book.

The bible alone says that no one can follow Jesus if they love their family, a rapist victim has to marry the rapist, kids who disobey their parents should be killed, and that soldier should feel free to take little girls and their mothers as sex slaves.

The Koran is even worse.

 

[Forever Atlas]

No sane man would follow all the rules of any holy book.

The bible alone says that no one can follow Jesus if they love their family, a rapist victim has to marry the rapist, kids who disobey their parents should be killed, and that soldier should feel free to take little girls and their mothers as sex slaves.

The Koran is even worse.

VERSES PLEEAAASEEEE. =/

 

[Onasi]

Saying slavery is okay and that slaves should obey everything their master says:
Ephesians 6:5,
Titus 2:9,
1 Peter 2:18
Jesus’ “Second coming” was supposed to happen when his apostils were still alive:
Mark 8:39 to 9:1 & 13:30 to: 33,
Matthew 16:28 & 24:34,
Luke 9:26-27
Snakes and donkeys can talk:
Genesis 3,
Numbers 22:1-35
Blood sacrifice:
Genesis 4:4 & 31:54,
Leviticus 1:9 & 9:18,
2 Kings 16:15,
Ezekiel 39:17
Human sacrifice condoned:
Leviticus 27:29,
Judges 11:29-39,
Numbers 31:31-40
Incest is fine:
Genesis 4; 9:1; 19:30-38; 20:11-12,
2 Samuel 13:1-15
Spouse abuse is okay:
Numbers 5:5-31,
Deuteronomy 22:13-21 28-29,
1 Peter 3:17
Child abuse is okay- Genesis 22
Deuteronomy 21:18-21; 23:2
Proverbs 13:10, 20:30, 22:15, 23:13-14
Psalms 137:9
(Preteen) Child molestation okay:
Numbers 31:17-18
Abortion okay:
Amos 1:13
2 kings 15:16
Hosea 9:11-16, 13:16
Numbers 5:5-31
Pillaging is fine:
Genesis 34:13-29
Deuteronomy 20:13-14
Numbers 31:7-12
Murder is okay:
Exodus 2:12
Judges 9:5, 11:29-39, 14:19
2 Samuel 18:15
1 Kings 2:24-25, 29-34, 46, 9:27, 10:7
2 Chronicles 21:4
Ezekiel 20:26
Cannibalism fine and dandy:
Leviticus 26:29
Deuteronomy 28:53
Isaiah 49:26
Jeremiah 19:9
Ezekiel 5:8-10
2 Kings 6:29
You can’t be a follower of Jesus without hating your family:
Luke 14:26
Child sex slaves okay:
Exodus 21:7-11
Rape victim must marry the rapist:
Deuteronomy 22:28-29
Look them up yourself. Every time I post the actual verse people always say "That's out of context!"

If you think they are out of context please find me the verse before or after the bad one that puts it in context.

Oh and none of that interpretation crap. If God wrote it we shouldn't have to interpret it. We would just be able to know it by reading it.

Please watch these 2 videos.


YouTube - 2nd Foundational Falsehood of Creationism


YouTube - We've Heard It Already Some More


More evil can be found at: Evil Bible Home Page

 

[Forever Atlas]

LoL. If I had a quarter for every time those verses have been thrown at me. That list is quite outrageous. Even people who don't believe in the Bible wouldn't go as far as to say half of the stuff in that list because it is OBVIOUSLY untrue. I'm not going to start a debate in this thread because it will go way off topic but all I have to say is - it's quite easy for anyone to take things out of context, twist, or misinterpret texts. Especially if it will help fuel their fire. Be it the Bible or any other written or spoken words.

However, I want to ask you something first. Have you yourself actually gone ahead and read the whole Bible? Or even if not EVERY SINGLE VERSE, at least most of it? I have talked to many people who are against the Bible or do not believe it, at least some of them have read it. I'll say my side of the debate and so on. Most of the time, they keep their opinion and okay, not everyone is going to like it. But if you aren't willing to go the extra step to look into the thing you judge so harshly for yourself then I'd rather not waste an explanation on you.

So have you read the books? If not then I suspect you are just taking the list that some Bible haters posted online. Then pointing the finger at those who are religious and saying that they are blindly following someone or something while you yourself are doing the same.

 

[Ophan]

The guy never said anything about his belief, so saying that
he is following something blindly is invalid. Although i will state
that this thread is a little redundant because the OP is asking
why someone dislikes religion, and then states why he dislikes
it as to stir up some kind of hate crowd. Maybe it wasn't his
intention, but this thread would have been well put if it was
someone religious who made this thread.

 

[Forever Atlas]

The guy never said anything about his belief, so saying that
he is following something blindly is invalid. Although i will state
that this thread is a little redundant because the OP is asking
why someone dislikes religion, and then states why he dislikes
it as to stir up some kind of hate crowd. Maybe it wasn't his
intention, but this thread would have been well put if it was
someone religious who made this thread.

Saying slavery is okay and that slaves should obey everything their master says:
Ephesians 6:5,
Titus 2:9,
1 Peter 2:18
Jesus’ “Second coming” was supposed to happen when his apostils were still alive:
Mark 8:39 to 9:1 & 13:30 to: 33,
Matthew 16:28 & 24:34,
Luke 9:26-27
Snakes and donkeys can talk:
Genesis 3,
Numbers 22:1-35
Blood sacrifice:
Genesis 4:4 & 31:54,
Leviticus 1:9 & 9:18,
2 Kings 16:15,
Ezekiel 39:17
Human sacrifice condoned:
Leviticus 27:29,
Judges 11:29-39,
Numbers 31:31-40
Incest is fine:
Genesis 4; 9:1; 19:30-38; 20:11-12,
2 Samuel 13:1-15
Spouse abuse is okay:
Numbers 5:5-31,
Deuteronomy 22:13-21 28-29,
1 Peter 3:17
Child abuse is okay- Genesis 22
Deuteronomy 21:18-21; 23:2
Proverbs 13:10, 20:30, 22:15, 23:13-14
Psalms 137:9
(Preteen) Child molestation okay:
Numbers 31:17-18
Abortion okay:
Amos 1:13
2 kings 15:16
Hosea 9:11-16, 13:16
Numbers 5:5-31
Pillaging is fine:
Genesis 34:13-29
Deuteronomy 20:13-14
Numbers 31:7-12
Murder is okay:
Exodus 2:12
Judges 9:5, 11:29-39, 14:19
2 Samuel 18:15
1 Kings 2:24-25, 29-34, 46, 9:27, 10:7
2 Chronicles 21:4
Ezekiel 20:26
Cannibalism fine and dandy:
Leviticus 26:29
Deuteronomy 28:53
Isaiah 49:26
Jeremiah 19:9
Ezekiel 5:8-10
2 Kings 6:29
You can’t be a follower of Jesus without hating your family:
Luke 14:26
Child sex slaves okay:
Exodus 21:7-11
Rape victim must marry the rapist:
Deuteronomy 22:28-29
Look them up yourself. Every time I post the actual verse people always say "That's out of context!"

If you think they are out of context please find me the verse before or after the bad one that puts it in context.

Oh and none of that interpretation crap. If God wrote it we shouldn't have to interpret it. We would just be able to know it by reading it.

Please watch these 2 videos.


YouTube - 2nd Foundational Falsehood of Creationism


YouTube - We've Heard It Already Some More


More evil can be found at: Evil Bible Home Page

I am guessing that he believes those statements since he is sorta promoting it.

 

[Ophan]

I am guessing that he believes those statements since he is sorta promoting it.

oh i see, i was thinking of religious belief,
but then....well okay...

 

[Informal Gluttony]

I can see why atheists dislike people that "push religion on them", but it works the other way around, too. People that are constantly trying to disprove my belief (I'm not actually very religious, but whatever) are just as bad as people that try to push their religion on atheists.

 

[Donna da Ragione]

Am I the only one who hasn't run into zealous pushy atheists in real life? Because I see all this "but atheists do it too!" and I wonder if they're just referring to the internet.

 

[krexia]

I can see why atheists dislike people that "push religion on them", but it works the other way around, too. People that are constantly trying to disprove my belief (I'm not actually very religious, but whatever) are just as bad as people that try to push their religion on atheists.

On the contrary, I dislike people who think no-one should ever discuss religion. I welcome anyone to try to push their religion on me and am very happy to explain exactly why I'm an atheist.

That said, I've never had atheists come to my door to try to convert me. Or yell in the street about how I'm an immoral person if I don't share their beliefs. Or follow me around while I'm out jogging trying to convince me to come to weekly meetings. (Dead serious. This chick on a bike followed me for a good twenty minutes, trying to convince me to go to church with her.)