- Apr 27, 2006
I know this a decade late but why do some fans hate the idea of Riku being a Keyblade master over Sora?
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This right here.A large portion of the fanbase has a weird fixation with Sora being acknowledged as the greatest Keyblade wielder in the history of forever, despite him saying flat out that he doesn't even care about being a Master. He didn't even want to take the exam in 3D until Riku said he wanted to.
Well I for one trust Xehanort's word regardless what Nomura says. Xehanort was speaking from the heart when he named Terra. We can trust Xehanort just like Terra did. That misguided old hero only wants to protect the light and lead us to a better future. KH3 told us so!Nope. Nomura stated that Terra was never a true master at the time no matter how much Xehanort said he was. Plus all of that was just a ploy to manipulate him
This was a excellent post, Dast. I certainly see what you are saying.So I agree with everyone saying the title is unimportant and Sora doesn't need it but I'd like to add that I don't see the Mark of Mastery as really being about how powerful a wielder is in battle, but more about strength of heart and character. In the BBS exam, Terra and Aqua's fight isn't about who is stronger and can win, but so Eraqus can perceive 'truths' about them and he finds the roots of darkness in Terra's heart, and it's this weakness of heart why he fail.
@Scoobert_Doobert I see the DDD exam in the same way: The important thing wasn't fulfilling the technical requirement of funding the 7 sleeping keyholes, but showing the strength of their heart. So Sora failed because his heart faltered and was nearly taken by darkness and Xehanort. Riku showed his resistance to darkness and so earned the Mark of Mastery. Even when Yen Sid tells Sora that he must regain his lost strength, the emphasis is on the mystical Power of Waking, rather than how hard Sora can bonk Heartless on the head.
And in KH3 you can see that Riku is much more mature and collected than Sora. Sora is shown to be anxious quite a lot during the game (for example after completing 100 Acre Wood he worries about losing connections with his friends), while Riku remains calm even when up against it in the Realm of Darkness. Even when they are about to be swept away by the Demon Tide, Riku doesn't lose his cool and reassures Sora, who is panicking and doesn't believe in himself. For me, Sora not being a Master then made sense. He does seem to mature after that so I guess he would be worthy of the Mark later but again, he doesn't need it and the commendation from Xehanort was enough for me.
It does raise the question of how Xehanort passed his exam but for now I am assuming it's to do with his ability to wield darkness without being taken over by it. I hope we get to see it in Dark Road. Anyway, I am sorry for the long post.
That's very nice of you to say and I am not offended at all. I am not a big fan of it's introduction either, along with the succession ceremony thing, in BBS and it doesn't really feel like a nececesary concept. It would have been nice if Keyblade lore had been planned out better from the start.This was a excellent post, Dast. I certainly see what you are saying.
My problem isn't that Riku passed and Sora failed. I agree that Riku is more mature then Sora. I just don't like this Keyblade Master title thing at all and how it's structured. I find it one of the worst retcons from BBS. I fully agree that the Mark of Mastery wasn't about strength of skill but heart. What I don't like is now the game is telling us Sora's way of doing things is wrong. Which is funny because I'm pretty sure he saved the world twice following his heart but now he needs to take a test? How is KH1 or KH2 not a Mark of Mastery exam for Sora after all he's been through already? And you can be a master and still learn things about yourself, the journey never ends. Aqua is still learning after all. I could go on but it would be a long rant.
Sorry if I came ranty. It's not towards you, Dast. I'm just not a fan of how they wrote this Keyblade Master title. And likewise I can't wait to see Xehanort pass his exam. Dark Road is going to be so entertaining, I'm going to have fun XD
Truthfully when Terra and Aqua were applying to be 'Keyblade Masters' I thought it just meant Eraqus was going to allow them to travel the worlds with their Keyblades. I didn't actually think it was a actual title. And it doesn't even bother me that it was. The problem is it should have stayed a old tradition. The Mark of Mastery exam was the thing that started to drive TAV apart to begin with. Had it stayed in BBS that would have been fine. I'm annoyed they are trying to make it a thing now in the present for characters that don't need it.That's very nice of you to say and I am not offended at all. I am not a big fan of it's introduction either, along with the succession ceremony thing, in BBS and it doesn't really feel like a nececesary concept. It would have been nice if Keyblade lore had been planned out better from the start.
Because KH3 paints Sora as Keyblade Jesus anyway and, under normal circumstances, differentiating weapon users under low/mid/high tiers USUALLY means that the high tier users are functionally or thematically better than the low/mid users but again KH3 says bump that. Chip and Dale rescue RangetsI know this a decade late but why do some fans hate the idea of Riku being a Keyblade master over Sora?
You're on a roll here, but I just wanted to note that I hadn't realized the added ridiculousness of ejecting Riku from this plotline given that the darkness used to (help) corrupt Aqua is Ansem SoD's-- a darkness which Riku has himself wielded. It's good to know the decision was made to forego even a semblance of thoughtfulness when mapping this particular plot detour. Really rub our faces in it.Well, Masters Mickey and Riku are now prepped to save the girl from her shadowy prison - a prison that ya boi Riku has INTIMATE RELATIONS WITH having harbored Ansem SoD's heart for some time, taken on his form, being sent to the RoD himself, and more.