When are we expecting news?

[Liodin]

Excuse me if I’m misunderstanding what you’re saying, but how is compulsively consuming social media or buying stuff from the store the same thing as getting addicted to near-gambling type of ways to get stuff through gacha? I’m not trying to argue, just understand.

Well, for store stuff I can get that, because compulsive spending from shopping is a real addiction that must be treated as much as anything else, but consuming social media is more… manageable I’d say? However, as a Gen Z, I do see how it negatively affects the youth. Older generations, too.

I guess I’m just confused by the equivalency here, would you mind explaining it further?

Basically, what I'm saying is that a lot of things in our daily lives are set up to push us toward certain behaviors, whether it's buying something, watching a video, or getting hooked on a gacha game. These systems—like algorithms, ads, or game mechanics—are all designed to keep us engaged, and often, to get us to spend money.

You're right that there's a difference between scrolling through social media and playing a gacha game. Gacha games have that element of randomness and rewards, which can make them more addictive, almost like gambling. But my main point is that these kinds of influence tactics aren't just in gacha games—they're everywhere, including social media, which can also be addictive and harmful if we get too caught up in it.

For example, social media platforms use algorithms to keep us scrolling, liking, and sharing, which can lead to unhealthy habits. Stores use tricks to get us to buy things on impulse. These compulsive behaviors—whether we're shopping, scrolling, or rolling in a game—are all signs of how our environments are increasingly designed to grab our attention and money.

What I'm trying to point out is that these systems all work in similar ways. They play on our psychological tendencies to keep us hooked to spend our time/money on something we wouldn't do if it weren't for these tactics.

 

[BufferAqua]

What I'm trying to point out is that these systems all work in similar ways. They play on our psychological tendencies to keep us hooked to spend our time/money on something we wouldn't do if it weren't for these tactics.

Thank you for taking the time to explain! Sometimes information can jumble in my brain (my ADHD, I guess) so I appreciate it.

 

[redcrown]

This whole "Sora can't do anything because Disney" argument is bunk. Most of us old-timers told y'all for years that Sora wasn't in Smash because of one man: Nomura. And lo and behold, Tetsu-san told everyone that himself when the boy finally made it to Smash.

Tetsuya Nomura has a tighter leash on Sora than Disney ever did or will.

Which I am honestly very grateful for and actually find pretty inspiring in this day and age where most creators lose their precious creations the millisecond they sign them over to whomever is broadcasting/hosting them. I hope (naively) that KH will stay this protected long after Nomura is gone.

Like, I get it though. Everyone is dying in the desert for news with no water in sight and having KH in anything right now would be fun and tide us over until KH4, but I feel like the only one who is happy that it didn't get into Fortnite because it's a sign that Nomura still holds this series dear to his heart and still actually has control over it.

I'll probably eat my words a few months from now when Sora drops and can hit the griddy with Peter Griffin.

 

[Squood!]

Most people I see talk about Sora in Fortnite only through the lens that it'll make Sora and KH more popular and bring more people into the series.

But let's be frank today's generation in particular would probably get bored of KH within an hour.

 

[1millionsquats]

I don't personally see KH as a dying franchise in desperate need of attracting more players. It's very popular and well-known as it is, and the numbers for the steam release seem to reflect that.

I feel like the only one who is happy that it didn't get into Fortnite because it's a sign that Nomura still holds this series dear to his heart and still actually has control over it.

First of all I must say that I don't think I'm gatekeeping because I'm all for new people playing the games for themselves instead of falling into the usual "Kingdom Hearts is a cringe embarassing game" discourse because they saw an out-of-context screencap of Woody saying the word 'darkness'.

With that said, is it really necessary for Sora to do the floss in order for that to happen? Surely someone who wants nothing to do with Kingdom Hearts won't have their mind changed by seeing Sora, machine gun in one hand, chug jug in the other.
To me, Sora in the franchise soup that is Fortnite would only seem like "selling out", for lack of a better expression.

And before anyone mentions capitalism and enlightens me with the forbidden knowledge that companies want me to buy the videogame so that they can make money, and that includes KH: Ok man. But I do think that a strong creative might want to preserve the essence of a thing they created. A videogame might be a product but it is still a creative endeavor.

 

[Chie]

People historically have a weird amount of trouble telling the difference between developers and corporate executives. I've seen Nomura being blamed for UX's greed as if he's making any money off it, or even looked at the gacha part for more than half a second.

I also think people completely forget how small these companies were when Nomura et al first joined them...

I don't really care about the Fortnite thing either way, but just in general

 

[Phoenix]

It's funny because Disney certainly has the perception of being more careful with this kind of thing, at least historically. No news at the parks, no Goofy or Donald in Smash, very few cinematic sequels.

It's changed a bit. Live action remakes to already existing films, cinematic sequels to original animated films, Incredibles in Fortnite. They seem to be looser with restrictions now. Which will make money in the short term, but maybe there's a loss to branding? I dunno. It feels like between Marvel and Pixar and Star Wars, "Disney" doesn't really mean anything particularly special, aside from another megacorp that owns a bunch of properties.

All this to say, old Disney would have absolutely never have agreed to out its properties in a game where people use realistic guns to shoot each other, intended audience be damned. But new Disney just invested the GDP of an eastern European country in that company, so I have no idea where the dice fall. Sora flossing and machine gunning Goku feels wrong, but I'm also old, so *shrug*

 

[2 quid is good]

Most people I see talk about Sora in Fortnite only through the lens that it'll make Sora and KH more popular and bring more people into the series.

But let's be frank today's generation in particular would probably get bored of KH within an hour.

I don't think that's true at all

I think what IS true is that gaming is no longer the affordable hobby and kids space it once was. When games were super expensive in the 80s and 90s, those consoles spanned decades and had strong second hand markets. When games were pretty much all a one £20-40 price range for the 2000s-2010s, consoles were fairly affordable, and even for families that couldn't afford them, the Wii existed. You could find those for £20 a go when games were still being developed for it.

All this to say, yes. Of course free to play games are popular. What parent is shelling out top dollar for the prohibitively expensive latest and greatest?

 

[olu]

The thing with the potential Fortnite collab is that all three companies involved already work together. Disney owns a portion of Epic. Disney obviously works with SE on KH. And Square Enix works with Epic on developing almost all of their flagship titles including KH4. FFVIIR, and DQXII. Therefore, a collab between all three would be a no-brainer.

And remember this is the only the beginning of the Disney’s collaboration with Epic. Their plan is to create this whole metaverse thing that will likely having content tying into anything and everything Disney-related. It’s only a matter of time before KH is brought into that in some capacity.

Oh yeah, absolutely. Fortnite is a very fortunate case for Sora (if they do ever decide they wanna include him) but I was moreso referring to other collabs outside the reaches of Disney and Square Enix. Like Smash Brothers.

We can't expect any ambitious collabs like - let's say - Sora joining Tekken.

I. Did. Not. Say. Anything. About. Mobile. Games. You did. You even quoted my post where I didn't say anything about them and told me it was about mobile games. This is an argument you are having with yourself with an imaginary position you invented. I can't help you with that! I even listed an example of a mobile game I consider a game (Million Onion Hotel)! I could list more!

It is so weird to see someone bring up an unrelated topic and then tell me "the argument in question" is the thing they made up!

Okay. Missing Link is a video game for mobile devices.

Most people I see talk about Sora in Fortnite only through the lens that it'll make Sora and KH more popular and bring more people into the series.

But let's be frank today's generation in particular would probably get bored of KH within an hour.

Eh. KH doesn't need the popularity and I think newcomers would really enjoy the series if they're able to look past the corny dialogue and all the subliminal messaging behind it. All things considered, the KH series contains very solid ARPG titles. Even for today's standards.

 

[Dandelion]

Okay. Missing Link is a video game for mobile devices.

Knock it off.

 

[Squood!]

I'd take Sora in Tekken

Partially cuz he'd actually be a character and not a glorified costume

 

[olu]

Knock it off.

 

[NoWay]

In 2019 I really thought, at this point in 2024, we already would have gotten a new AA game and would be eagerly waiting for the next game. In reality at this point, I really don’t think that ML is going to release this year?? I mean, why the news drought if they were still considering releasing the game soon?

 

[Chaser]

I want this with Chirithy

https://twitter.com/x/status/1823163944313454628

 

[olu]

I want this with Chirithy

https://twitter.com/x/status/1823163944313454628

AND bundled up with the 'Dream Eaters' music track as we land, please.

 

[horto12485]

So No News for Kingdom Hearts 4 and Missing Link at D23 2024...

Nomura is trying to keep it away from the Events unless he's trying to hide a Secret from us...

Me (KH Fan): Nomura where is the news/Updates of Kingdom Hearts 4

Nomura: You won't be getting any news of Kingdom Hearts 4 never...

 

[HakaishinChampa]

So No News for Kingdom Hearts 4 and Missing Link at D23 2024...

Nomura is trying to keep it away from the Events unless he's trying to hide a Secret from us...

Me (KH Fan): Nomura where is the news/Updates of Kingdom Hearts 4

Nomura: You won't be getting any news of Kingdom Hearts 4 never...

c'mon, dont be so pessimistic

We'll get something eventually but Idk when. I'm honestly not expecting anything the rest of this year until maybe Game Awards if we're lucky

 

[olu]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1823573661477196012

A lot of people seem to think Disney doesn't care about KH because they don't include it in their bigger events but it's honestly sort of a blessing. Disney acknowledging and doing more with KH would be such a double edged sword. Because not only would they be more incentivized to take more control from Nomura if they were to embrace the KH series (which no one wants, trust me), but I don't want the series to be too closely or primarily associated with a company that causes the death of someone's wife due to an allergic reaction at one of their restaurants and tries to dismiss the following lawsuit that takes place because the widower had a Disney+ account??

I always knew Disney was super greedy as a conglomerate but this is just disgusting. Keep KH announcements/events on the Square Enix side of things, please.

 

[Keyblade Knight 1st Class]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1823573661477196012

A lot of people seem to think Disney doesn't care about KH because they don't include it in their bigger events but it's honestly sort of a blessing. Disney acknowledging and doing more with KH would be such a double edged sword. Because not only would they be more incentivized to take more control from Nomura if they were to embrace the KH series (which no one wants, trust me), but I don't want the series to be too closely or primarily associated with a company that causes the death of someone's wife due to an allergic reaction at one of their restaurants and tries to dismiss the following lawsuit that takes place because the widower had a Disney+ account??

I always knew Disney was super greedy as a conglomerate but this is just disgusting. Keep KH announcements/events on the Square Enix side of things, please.

This reminds of the rule that they have that if someone "dies" at Disneyland, they legally can't be declared dead until the body is removed from the premises. Because apparently no one is allowed to die at the "Happiest place on Earth". I'd like to think that Walt Disney would be absolutely appaled and disgusted with how his company handles tragedy. My heart goes out to this poor man and I hope the justice system doesn't fail him.

 

[Darkspawn]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1823729384534274100

If they are considering moving FFVIIR-3 to UE5, it could be a positive sign for how KH4’s development on the engine is going. If they were having significant struggles with it in KH4, I doubt they’d even be considering it for the final chapter of the Remake trilogy.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1823573661477196012

A lot of people seem to think Disney doesn't care about KH because they don't include it in their bigger events but it's honestly sort of a blessing. Disney acknowledging and doing more with KH would be such a double edged sword. Because not only would they be more incentivized to take more control from Nomura if they were to embrace the KH series (which no one wants, trust me), but I don't want the series to be too closely or primarily associated with a company that causes the death of someone's wife due to an allergic reaction at one of their restaurants and tries to dismiss the following lawsuit that takes place because the widower had a Disney+ account??

I always knew Disney was super greedy as a conglomerate but this is just disgusting. Keep KH announcements/events on the Square Enix side of things, please.

It is worth noting that Disney does not own or operate the restaurant where this happened. The restaurant is at Disney Springs and most of the businesses there are third party vendors. Unless there is more to the story, I don’t think a judge would hold Disney liable for the incident in this case.

Still, this would set dangerous precedent if the judge sides with Disney due to this particular claim. Hopefully they won’t. If they aren’t held liable, it should be for different reasons.

That said, there is no separating KH from being primarily associated with Disney. Regardlsss of who markets the game, it is still very blatantly a Disney product considering iconic characters like Mickey, Donald, and Goofy are front and center.

This reminds of the rule that they have that if someone "dies" at Disneyland, they legally can't be declared dead until the body is removed from the premises. Because apparently no one is allowed to die at the "Happiest place on Earth". I'd like to think that Walt Disney would be absolutely appaled and disgusted with how his company handles tragedy. My heart goes out to this poor man and I hope the justice system doesn't fail him.

This is just a myth. People have died on Disney property. The idea of this likely originated from the fact that if a paramedic starts lifesaving measures on someone en route to a medical facility, they have to keep performing them until they reach the medical facility. Basically, you aren’t allowed to die in the back of an ambulance. (This is in the US at least.)

Since it is rare for something to happen where a person would die instantly on the scene at a Disney park, they usually receive life saving measures from a paramedic. So that’s why you you don’t often see deaths in property,