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LordMune said:
The guy on my right is god. You should prostrate to his sexy exterior. =/
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Thanks for all your help Akura!! I think i'll try to find some japanese schools. after all i live really close to a huge city, im sure i can find one.
What exactly is Onyomi and Kunyomi? also i had a few questions
the o-so common question of "wa" and "ha"
I hear things about it but i don't really understand when you use which for what. Like you write "ha" but it is pronounced "wa" or you use them for 2 different purposes. Can you clarify on the whole "wa" "ha" issue? thanks
Also, if you notice (which i'm sure you have) in kana there are 2 Ji's and Zu's, when do i use which one? Can you clarify on this
Thank you Akura-san.
What exactly is Onyomi and Kunyomi? also i had a few questions
the o-so common question of "wa" and "ha"
I hear things about it but i don't really understand when you use which for what. Like you write "ha" but it is pronounced "wa" or you use them for 2 different purposes. Can you clarify on the whole "wa" "ha" issue? thanks
Also, if you notice (which i'm sure you have) in kana there are 2 Ji's and Zu's, when do i use which one? Can you clarify on this
Thank you Akura-san.
The particle "wa" is written "ha". Everything else is pronounced as it is written.
As for the jis and dzu/zus, I dunno. Just use the correct spelling of the word. There is usually little audible difference between them.
I'm dying to see Akura's take on this, though. He is more pedagogic than me.
As for the jis and dzu/zus, I dunno. Just use the correct spelling of the word. There is usually little audible difference between them.
I'm dying to see Akura's take on this, though. He is more pedagogic than me.
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ah. affirmative. understood. so i would never ever dare write わたし わ
i would write は instead, right? affirmative.
i would also like to know how in bloody hell can you type in japanese on a keyboard? do japanese keyboards just have the hiragana/katakana written on the keys?
how can i type in japanese with an english keyboard? kthx
Japanese keyboards often have a dual rômaji/kana layout. You can type in Japanese on western keyboards using Japanese IMEs (Input Method Editors)- the roman letters you type are instantly converted to kana, and then you get drop-down lists for kanji.
Try the Office XP Global IME (Japanese), if you're running XP, that is.
EDIT: IMEs generally require a modicum of computer literacy to get running, just so you know. Start by installing support for the Japanese language from the Control Panel.
Try the Office XP Global IME (Japanese), if you're running XP, that is.
EDIT: IMEs generally require a modicum of computer literacy to get running, just so you know. Start by installing support for the Japanese language from the Control Panel.
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^ support for the japanese language? mind elaborating, pl0x?
i have the japanese language pack installed, and i think i have spanish installed on my western keyboard. might as well install japanese xD
EDIT: help. i have windows xp home edition. i added japanese to my built-in language input thing.
but when i type, it types in english even though the selection is on japanese x__x
i went to properties and made sure it input hiragana, but stilll nothing.
i have the japanese language pack installed, and i think i have spanish installed on my western keyboard. might as well install japanese xD
EDIT: help. i have windows xp home edition. i added japanese to my built-in language input thing.
but when i type, it types in english even though the selection is on japanese x__x
i went to properties and made sure it input hiragana, but stilll nothing.
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Oh, sorry for the everlong delay.
Here's a little pin on the whole "wa" trouble. It is は (ha) to begin with. At times, it is read as "ha" but others is read as "wa" (mostly only for particle standalone usage)
As for this statement:
Not particularly true. へ changes its pronunciation at times to plain "e".
BTW, folks, I no longer use the same method for Japanese typing. On my trip in Japan, I purchased a keyboard. It wasn't compatible at first with my computer but I had some tech geeks fix that problem. They're not adept to the whole Japanese writing system though so I have to slowly grow adapted to this darn thing. (The @ key is to the right of P)
Here's a little pin on the whole "wa" trouble. It is は (ha) to begin with. At times, it is read as "ha" but others is read as "wa" (mostly only for particle standalone usage)
As for this statement:
Mune said:
Not particularly true. へ changes its pronunciation at times to plain "e".
BTW, folks, I no longer use the same method for Japanese typing. On my trip in Japan, I purchased a keyboard. It wasn't compatible at first with my computer but I had some tech geeks fix that problem. They're not adept to the whole Japanese writing system though so I have to slowly grow adapted to this darn thing. (The @ key is to the right of P)
In my defence, THAT ISN'T TRUE but it is.アクラ said:
Sometimes, mind. Sometimes. Sigh...
Eclipse; So I am going to assume you already have the Language Bar? Jolly good. Select Japanese, Restore the bar to its original position, and choose hiragana/katakana instead of Direct Input under Input Mode.
Sounds familar. I might've run into that program in the past. That is, I wasn't very saavy with it at first but that was about some 20+ months ago. I wasn't very saavy in Japanese either.
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i have the language bar, and i added Japanese under language, and the keyboard layout is Japanese Inupt System (MS-IME 2002)
when i select japanese in the language bar, it doesn't work. I type onto ANYTHING and it just types out regular english letters like an american keyboard.
I'm not sure what else to do
and i'm not sure how to change the direct input into hiragana/katakana
help? thx
Eclipse said:
Are you sure you've added a Japanese keyboard layout? This is what it should look like; (just, please, don't be thrown off by "japanska", it's "japanese" in the language of my OS- swedish)
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^ weird. i did nothing, and it just started working. ok so it works now
but i have one problem.
x__x how do i find out how to type wa, and ka, and la etc.? do i just keep pressing the keys until i finally find the character i'm looking for? xD
but i have one problem.
x__x how do i find out how to type wa, and ka, and la etc.? do i just keep pressing the keys until i finally find the character i'm looking for? xD
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o__o oh
that would make sense...lemme test it out わたし
やった！！！
yay it works
i typed watashi, and then yatta
woot
woot
i'm such an idiot
now i have a question. must you type spaces when you type in japanese? because when i hit the "spacebar" it highlights the sentence and makes kanji or something.
Is that what the spacebar is for? to convert what you typed into kanji?
that would make sense...lemme test it out わたし
やった！！！
yay it works
i typed watashi, and then yatta
woot
woot
i'm such an idiot
now i have a question. must you type spaces when you type in japanese? because when i hit the "spacebar" it highlights the sentence and makes kanji or something.
Is that what the spacebar is for? to convert what you typed into kanji?
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womg.
japanese pwns. <333
but so spaces translate kana into kanji? cuz that's what it did to me x__x it's too bad i know absolutely zilch kanji at this point xD
one more question (off topic)
when writing/typing names in japanese, do you do it in katakana? cuz i know katakana is for typing foreign names and things, but say like Akura's name, i see it's in Katakana....err....why?
You usually only write foreign names and words in katakana- however, manga writers like to write the names of characters in katakana, because it is "lol teh kewl" or something. It also simplifies things, name-kanji would look out of place in a text of otherwise kana-majority.
And yes, the space bar is supposed to do that.
And yes, the space bar is supposed to do that.
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^ yay. mmk back to my japanese studies
*sticks pencil behind ear -- looking all nerdy*
must memorize that kana!! ka, ki, ku, ke, ko....
*sticks pencil behind ear -- looking all nerdy*
must memorize that kana!! ka, ki, ku, ke, ko....
Guess I never really did deal with that program before.
Good luck with all 92 characters.
Mostly just to clarify the name to everyone. It's difficult to transition such a scenario in Japanese but Kunyomi can have several pronunciations as were as a few fluxes with Onyomi. If written out in Katakana, the pronunciation is clear to everyone.
Well, I don't know about the answer but I'll say that there are many hononyms in Japanese. Be sure to select the correct kanji. (i.e. even the simplest kanji as in 日本 can be mistakened for 二本; one means "two things" and the other means "Japan". Kanji is very critical but crucial)
Good luck with all 92 characters.
Mune said:
Mostly just to clarify the name to everyone. It's difficult to transition such a scenario in Japanese but Kunyomi can have several pronunciations as were as a few fluxes with Onyomi. If written out in Katakana, the pronunciation is clear to everyone.
Clips said:
Well, I don't know about the answer but I'll say that there are many hononyms in Japanese. Be sure to select the correct kanji. (i.e. even the simplest kanji as in 日本 can be mistakened for 二本; one means "two things" and the other means "Japan". Kanji is very critical but crucial)
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