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If you would read my post you would have known that, I already changed it to Being with a Heart of Pure Light. I was already aware or the mistake thanks to lilmissrandom101 who had posted it before you. Thanks for the renotification though.

No problem Insomniac :E
Anyways I do wonder what Audo's theory is hmm :x
Also how come in BBS they're called BwHoPL instead of POH like in KH -_-
 

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No problem Insomniac :E
Anyways I do wonder what Audo's theory is hmm :x
Also how come in BBS they're called BwHoPL instead of POH like in KH -_-

I think that there are two possibilities as to why they would be called Beings with Hearts of Pure Light instead of Princesses of Heart. One possiblility would be that not all the beings are female and, maybe the male could be Ven. Another possibility could be that before Birth by Sleep the Being with Hearts of Pure Light were only legends and, that since no one has ever seen them they had the possibility or being male or female. Also Beings with Hearts of Pure Light were still being born so any of those children could easily be a male. Hopefully they will explain exactly why they are called Beings with Hearts of Pure Light in Birth by Sleep.
 

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They were called BwHoPL ONCE, when VAT were told that MX was chasing them. It makes perfect sense that VAT would only be told that, as MX had Just started chasing them. It wouldn't be until years later that it was All understood.
 

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Hmmm.

So far, we have:

the Heart Unlocker
Belle's Stained Glass Platform
DiZ restraining Namine
Xehanort's Heartless in the robe

Very interesting. I can sort of see a connection here.

Audo, you seem very confident that Belle is appearing in BBS, aren't you? And that Ven will meet her?

that fate comment makes me believe that Roxas looking like Ven had ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with Sora.
 

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Has anyone noticed that the heart unlocker does not have a key chain? Much like the keyblades of those of BBS. Course, this is mere speculation.
 

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So this is the 'guess the theory thread'?

I'll give it a try... (even though I feel I might let my wierd
theories poorly influence my guess)
<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com<img src=" /><o:p></o:p>
Okay... 4 clues...<o:p></o:p>
<o:p></o:p>
The first one was of the Dark Key which released Kairi's heart<o:p></o:p>
from Sora and then it returned to her vessel that had no heart.<o:p></o:p>
<o:p></o:p>
Possibly what the clue is hinting at is that Ven's heart was also<o:p></o:p>
in Sora and when Sora's heart turned into a Heartless, Ven's<o:p></o:p>
heart merged with Sora's left over vessel thus influencing<o:p></o:p>
Sora's Nobody to look like Ven.<o:p></o:p>
<o:p></o:p>
The second one is of DiZ preventing Namine from talking about<o:p></o:p>
Roxas' fate.<o:p></o:p>
<o:p></o:p>
Possibly what the clue is hinting at is that for whatever reason,<o:p></o:p>
(maybe cause Namine had access to Sora's memories and thus<o:p></o:p>
Roxas' memories) maybe Namine knew about what state Roxas<o:p></o:p>
was in and his relation to Ven's heart.<o:p></o:p>
<o:p></o:p>
The third one is of Belle's stainglass from Dive into the Heart in<o:p></o:p>
KH1.<o:p></o:p>
<o:p></o:p>
Possibly what the clue is hinting at is that the Princesses in the<o:p></o:p>
stainglass are Princesses of Heart that Ven encountered and that<o:p></o:p>
the last stainglass represent the three he never met (there's no<o:p></o:p>
indication of Agrabah being a world in BBS and Alice wasn't born<o:p></o:p>
yet, don't know why Ven wouldn't have encountered Kairi though)<o:p></o:p>
Maybe Ven will encounter Belle then.<o:p></o:p>
<o:p></o:p>
The fourth one is of Xehanort as solely a heart.<o:p></o:p>
<o:p></o:p>
Possibly what the clue is hinting at is that Ven's heart and Xehanort's<o:p></o:p>
heart are in similar states. Like how Ven is inside Sora and Xehanort<o:p></o:p>
is inside Riku. If Ven's heart takes possession of Sora's vessel when<o:p></o:p>
Sora's heart leaves it, creating a Sora's vessel/Ven appearence being,<o:p></o:p>
kind of like how Xehanort's heart takes possession of Riku's vessel when<o:p></o:p>
it pushes Riku's heart out of the vessel, creating a Riku's vessel/Xehanort's<o:p></o:p>
appearence being... (suddenly my sig makes alot more sense)
<o:p></o:p>
I'm probably way off, but is any
of what I said kind of close?<o:p></o:p>
<o:p></o:p>
And approximately when can we expect <o:p></o:p>
to hear what this theory really is?
 

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Why did someone bump this? Why? He's not even trying anymore. He's just posting random pics to see what crazy theory we can come up with.
 

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I thought it didn't have a keychain because it was made from the POH's hearts :x

Not true. Just because it does not have a keychain does not mean that it is fake, Xion and Roxas both have a KK and we all know that there is only one of those keychains. So its a chance that they could be fake and they have keychains.
 

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Not true. Just because it does not have a keychain does not mean that it is fake, Xion and Roxas both have a KK and we all know that there is only one of those keychains. So its a chance that they could be fake and they have keychains.
I never said it was fake, i said I thought it didn't have a keychain cause it was made from the POH's hearts -_- In fact i don't even remember what was that keyblade(heart unlocker) made from? :eek:
 
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Audo, you seem very confident that Belle is appearing in BBS, aren't you? And that Ven will meet her?
I never said anything like that.

So this is the 'guess the theory thread'?

I'll give it a try... (even though I feel I might let my wierd
theories poorly influence my guess)
<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com<img src=" /><o:p></o:p>
Okay... 4 clues...<o:p></o:p>
<o:p></o:p>
The first one was of the Dark Key which released Kairi's heart<o:p></o:p>
from Sora and then it returned to her vessel that had no heart.<o:p></o:p>
<o:p></o:p>
Possibly what the clue is hinting at is that Ven's heart was also<o:p></o:p>
in Sora and when Sora's heart turned into a Heartless, Ven's<o:p></o:p>
heart merged with Sora's left over vessel thus influencing<o:p></o:p>
Sora's Nobody to look like Ven.<o:p></o:p>
<o:p></o:p>
The second one is of DiZ preventing Namine from talking about<o:p></o:p>
Roxas' fate.<o:p></o:p>
<o:p></o:p>
Possibly what the clue is hinting at is that for whatever reason,<o:p></o:p>
(maybe cause Namine had access to Sora's memories and thus<o:p></o:p>
Roxas' memories) maybe Namine knew about what state Roxas<o:p></o:p>
was in and his relation to Ven's heart.<o:p></o:p>
<o:p></o:p>
The third one is of Belle's stainglass from Dive into the Heart in<o:p></o:p>
KH1.<o:p></o:p>
<o:p></o:p>
Possibly what the clue is hinting at is that the Princesses in the<o:p></o:p>
stainglass are Princesses of Heart that Ven encountered and that<o:p></o:p>
the last stainglass represent the three he never met (there's no<o:p></o:p>
indication of Agrabah being a world in BBS and Alice wasn't born<o:p></o:p>
yet, don't know why Ven wouldn't have encountered Kairi though)<o:p></o:p>
Maybe Ven will encounter Belle then.<o:p></o:p>
<o:p></o:p>
The fourth one is of Xehanort as solely a heart.<o:p></o:p>
<o:p></o:p>
Possibly what the clue is hinting at is that Ven's heart and Xehanort's<o:p></o:p>
heart are in similar states. Like how Ven is inside Sora and Xehanort<o:p></o:p>
is inside Riku. If Ven's heart takes possession of Sora's vessel when<o:p></o:p>
Sora's heart leaves it, creating a Sora's vessel/Ven appearence being,<o:p></o:p>
kind of like how Xehanort's heart takes possession of Riku's vessel when<o:p></o:p>
it pushes Riku's heart out of the vessel, creating a Riku's vessel/Xehanort's<o:p></o:p>
appearence being... (suddenly my sig makes alot more sense)
<o:p></o:p>
I'm probably way off, but is any
of what I said kind of close?<o:p></o:p>
<o:p></o:p>
And approximately when can we expect <o:p></o:p>
to hear what this theory really is?
I said it had nothing to do with any "Ven's heart is in Sora" sort of thing.

Why did someone bump this? Why? He's not even trying anymore. He's just posting random pics to see what crazy theory we can come up with.
Oh, I remember you, Mr. Sours Grapes.
They're only random if you treat them as such, but they are related to the theory.

Not true. Just because it does not have a keychain does not mean that it is fake, Xion and Roxas both have a KK and we all know that there is only one of those keychains. So its a chance that they could be fake and they have keychains.
Well, Nomura has said that the HU is artificial and he said that one of the obvious reason for that was that it was made from hearts and that there were other things to point to it being fake too (possibly that it is keychain less)
 

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I am guessing part of your theory is that Ventus is the voice that guides Dora in the first game that we personally never hear.

Are you thinking that Ven had a similar fate from the heart unlocker?

Well the stained glass, and the rode that XH was using kinda hint that he had to do something with talking to sora.

Actually you have some good ideas with all the possibilities from your clues.


Maybe when ven said erase me he ended up not being all there, and than he was only able to guide keybladers in dreams.

I have no clue how they are going to explain why ven looks like roxas, but those are just some ideas that popped into my head from your clues.

Another one, were you implying that ven wasn't supposed to exist with the Diz Nam(sorry I never remember how to spell her name) picture?

When ever I post on this site my posts ends up being longer than I thought they would be.
 

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I never said anything like that.

Hmmm, guess I'm seeing things that aren't there.

How about this:

Xehanort plans out for the Heart Unlocker to be made from the 6 Hearts of Pure Light. Each of those Hearts contains memories of Ven, which would be used to awaken him after BBS.

Which would mean that Ven has no real relation to Sora, just that Sora is a tool for Ven's awakening.

Not real thought out, but whatev.

I don't see how Namine would fit in, though. Unless it's something like she "shares Ven's essence with Roxas" or something like that.
 

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So Audo are you ever going to tell us your theory, or are you just going to tease us with some more clues and see what we can come up with? :x

Audo's got something, I bet.

Something so confusing and well thought out, that seeing us guess is just pure entertainment for him, I'm guessing.
 

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I'll bet he's just waiting for someone to come up with a brilliant theory, and then he's going to steal it which would piss me off And make me feel insanely honored, That's why I'm copyrighting all my post's.




Edit- Weird, I just made a theory, And for some reason, it seems like it could actually tie in with this one, Even though I have no idea what this one is. Oher than it has to do with..

-Hearts being unlocked*
-At the least, Being With Hearts of Pure Light, if not just the POH*
-Who Ven is
-Xehanort himself*
-And namine/DiZ

I have a feeling my theory could somehow have something to do with it. I'm probably wrong though. Anyone else think Kris just hasn't finished his theory, so he has no idea what it's going to come down to? And he's just throwing out images as he gets to them?





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