Hello, this is my first time here and I hope everything will go for the best. This forum looks really interesting and very open-minded around KH so here I am ^o^ I would like to warn you that english is not my mother-tongue so if I make mistakes, please tell me (if you want/can 
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I warn you, this thread is looooong and there is no TLR, so make sure you have all your time to read it!
Anyway, first of all, I wanted to post this thread on the Days forum but I found out some weird stuff and I thought this will be a better place to talk about it. The logic of this might be a little awkward but please read till the end....which will take probably a long time... <
So, firstly, I never played KH days and I merely watched playthrough on youtube and the movie from KH 1.5 . Unfortunately, on these videos, you don't get the chance to look at the "secret" stuff, in this case, the secret reports. You can get them here. (They are also sorted by author.)
We know who is Xion, according to this wiki :
I read all of these reports and some little things rang a bell in my mind somehow. I'll begin with Xemnas's :
It might be something trivial, but why did he use her name and "she" on day 255? before and after that, he only uses "puppet" and "it". I found this quite awkward because it seems his second reports treats Xion as someone and not something like the two others.
When you read Saïx reports, it gets a little weirder. I'll begin on day 150 :
Indeed, why haven't they (well, especially Xemnas since he seems to be the one to keep her) replaced her if something better could have been made? According to Saïx, it seems Vexen was not that important in the Replica Program, as he wrote that the next Replica should be used (is he talking about Riku replica?). But then, did SaÏx truly knew all about the project?
This part is even more strange :
Smiling? what the duck?? I mean, it could have been a smirk , a grin, a sneer whatever I don't know, but a smile? The japanese part goes like this :明確な返答は得られず、笑うだけだった。 "Warau" can be written in two different ways 笑う or 嗤う. The former actually means "to smile, to laugh" while the latter means "to sneer". So they purposely showed it was a smile, which is more sincere than a sneer (YRLY). Why then? (perhaps he was thinking of something else, although I highly doubt it).
Furthermore, it shows that Xemnas is most likely leading all of this alone. Xigbar's reports enhance this fact and show that there is something strange between Xion and Xemnas :
Xigbar thinks Xemnas sees something else in her. When Xigbar says "something else in her", I thought he was talking about something as in something useful. However, the japanese part goes like this : 俺には奴に見えるが、おそらくゼムナスにはまた違った姿に見えているんだろう。(I can see him (that guy) but, as for Xemnas, he's probably seeing a (whole?) different figure/appearance.) So, I don't know if that sentence puzzled anyone, it's more like an information...but oh well....
Anyway, this report was written one day after Xemnas's (the one he speaks of Xion as someone). So Xemnas sees a girl, that's sure but who exactly?
Yeah, we might probably know in KHIII because (highlight) Xion appeared in both Coded and 3D and in 3D, she is seen in front of Xigbar and on the DI.. Anyway, only speculations and theories can come out of this so, let's continue.
Axel's reports point out that Xion might be totally someone else, although he first saw someone looking like Naminé :
I like the way he says " Xion is a girl"...No, really? come on, you guys wear high-heel and breasts sometimes?
At that time, Axel did know about the Replica program but not about Xion, for him, he saw her as someone. That's why he thinks Saïx is hiding something (but Saïx's report on day 174 might states that things might be hidden to him as well).
Anyway, here's the most interesting part :
That part is quite interesting because it shows that for Axel, Repliku was imperfect contrary to Xion but he had exceptional copying functionnality (personally , I don't get that part). However, was it because he looked exactly like the original Riku? in fact, the Replica encountered Riku quite a lots of time. People mostly thinks that Xion looks like Kaïri (and like Naminé from Axel pov), but the fact is she developed a sense of self at the beginning : she was, and people knew she was Xion. And when she went to pay a visit to Naminé, she didn't find any resemblance with her, well, she didn't have a problem with her... Furthermore, Xion is left-handed, no one else is (except Ventus, but only in early development); but her looks might match Kaïri's ( you'll notice it's a mirror of Kaïri's first haircut...somehow, mostly for the bangs ) although, IMO, her personality is quite different from Kaïri's and slightly looks like Sora's/Roxas's. ( She is shy (well, in the beginning...yes), but she is strong-minded, she's a fighter, she has her own free will (that's the point of her story, you'll tell me...yes)).
Anyway, Axel adds the possibility that she might be the Replica of someone else, something that might not be because of her looks. But there are few differences with Kaïri or Sora....What is the strangest for me is that she is left-handed...
I intended to end the thread here and ask for your opinions, if it was the developer's intentions to blur the origin of Xion with no real intention to dig any further or if it was made on purpose. But before I was going to write that down, I stumbled upon the strangest "thing" (I'm typing "thing" quite a lots of time, no? <XP ) ...
The logic might confuse you, but it's necessary.
When I played Birth by Sleep (I remind you I never played or watched KH Days until recently), I found quite interesting to have Xehanort's theme slightly looking like Strange Whispers (Ansem Sod 's theme plays in the beginning of Xehanort's theme, it's quite noticeable).
Now, Kh days features Xemnas's theme. At first, I find it really weird for him not to have something similar with Xehanort's or Ansem's theme...But...
What happened to Xion here? How lucky, it's the PERFECT timing !
Aaaah, la musique pour la tristesse de Xion, it has Kaïri's theme and Dearly Beloved playing in it...
This thread is already long, and I should finish here. Take your time to think and hear about all this stuff and please tell me what you think of it.
Thank you so much for having read so far and sorry for the mistakes I might have made (even though I read the post like 30 times...) , you quite deserve a sea-salt ice-cream for that effort!
By the way, on another note, and if you have the heart to answer this after all this reading : there is an entry from Xion which left me puzzled:
The last sentence is quite "violent" (not sure if it's the right term but you get the feeling). It's just a short sentence, subject-verb, and I don't know about you, but I have the feeling it's quite important. If she is made of memories, wouldn't she dream of Kaïri's or Sora's dreams? is it hers or someone else's? The last part of this entry is so weird to my mind...what do you think about it?
Edit : Is it just me or the videos don't work? I can't figure out why it's doing that....
).I warn you, this thread is looooong and there is no TL
R, so make sure you have all your time to read it!Anyway, first of all, I wanted to post this thread on the Days forum but I found out some weird stuff and I thought this will be a better place to talk about it. The logic of this might be a little awkward but please read till the end....which will take probably a long time... <
So, firstly, I never played KH days and I merely watched playthrough on youtube and the movie from KH 1.5 . Unfortunately, on these videos, you don't get the chance to look at the "secret" stuff, in this case, the secret reports. You can get them here. (They are also sorted by author.)
We know who is Xion, according to this wiki :
Spoiler Show
I read all of these reports and some little things rang a bell in my mind somehow. I'll begin with Xemnas's :
It might be something trivial, but why did he use her name and "she" on day 255? before and after that, he only uses "puppet" and "it". I found this quite awkward because it seems his second reports treats Xion as someone and not something like the two others.
When you read Saïx reports, it gets a little weirder. I'll begin on day 150 :
Day 150
As expected, the Duplicate is starting to show its limits. The Program showed promise, but a puppet is just a puppet: something to be toyed with until it breaks. I am utterly at a loss as to what Roxas and Axel see in that thing. How best to dispose of it merits my consideration going forward.
Indeed, why haven't they (well, especially Xemnas since he seems to be the one to keep her) replaced her if something better could have been made? According to Saïx, it seems Vexen was not that important in the Replica Program, as he wrote that the next Replica should be used (is he talking about Riku replica?). But then, did SaÏx truly knew all about the project?
This part is even more strange :
Smiling? what the duck?? I mean, it could have been a smirk , a grin, a sneer whatever I don't know, but a smile? The japanese part goes like this :明確な返答は得られず、笑うだけだった。 "Warau" can be written in two different ways 笑う or 嗤う. The former actually means "to smile, to laugh" while the latter means "to sneer". So they purposely showed it was a smile, which is more sincere than a sneer (YRLY). Why then? (perhaps he was thinking of something else, although I highly doubt it).
Furthermore, it shows that Xemnas is most likely leading all of this alone. Xigbar's reports enhance this fact and show that there is something strange between Xion and Xemnas :
Xigbar thinks Xemnas sees something else in her. When Xigbar says "something else in her", I thought he was talking about something as in something useful. However, the japanese part goes like this : 俺には奴に見えるが、おそらくゼムナスにはまた違った姿に見えているんだろう。(I can see him (that guy) but, as for Xemnas, he's probably seeing a (whole?) different figure/appearance.) So, I don't know if that sentence puzzled anyone, it's more like an information...but oh well....
Anyway, this report was written one day after Xemnas's (the one he speaks of Xion as someone). So Xemnas sees a girl, that's sure but who exactly?
Yeah, we might probably know in KHIII because (highlight) Xion appeared in both Coded and 3D and in 3D, she is seen in front of Xigbar and on the DI.. Anyway, only speculations and theories can come out of this so, let's continue.
Axel's reports point out that Xion might be totally someone else, although he first saw someone looking like Naminé :
I like the way he says " Xion is a girl"...No, really? come on, you guys wear high-heel and breasts sometimes?
At that time, Axel did know about the Replica program but not about Xion, for him, he saw her as someone. That's why he thinks Saïx is hiding something (but Saïx's report on day 174 might states that things might be hidden to him as well).
Anyway, here's the most interesting part :
That part is quite interesting because it shows that for Axel, Repliku was imperfect contrary to Xion but he had exceptional copying functionnality (personally , I don't get that part). However, was it because he looked exactly like the original Riku? in fact, the Replica encountered Riku quite a lots of time. People mostly thinks that Xion looks like Kaïri (and like Naminé from Axel pov), but the fact is she developed a sense of self at the beginning : she was, and people knew she was Xion. And when she went to pay a visit to Naminé, she didn't find any resemblance with her, well, she didn't have a problem with her... Furthermore, Xion is left-handed, no one else is (except Ventus, but only in early development); but her looks might match Kaïri's ( you'll notice it's a mirror of Kaïri's first haircut...somehow, mostly for the bangs ) although, IMO, her personality is quite different from Kaïri's and slightly looks like Sora's/Roxas's. ( She is shy (well, in the beginning...yes), but she is strong-minded, she's a fighter, she has her own free will (that's the point of her story, you'll tell me...yes)).
Anyway, Axel adds the possibility that she might be the Replica of someone else, something that might not be because of her looks. But there are few differences with Kaïri or Sora....What is the strangest for me is that she is left-handed...
I intended to end the thread here and ask for your opinions, if it was the developer's intentions to blur the origin of Xion with no real intention to dig any further or if it was made on purpose. But before I was going to write that down, I stumbled upon the strangest "thing" (I'm typing "thing" quite a lots of time, no? <XP ) ...
The logic might confuse you, but it's necessary.
When I played Birth by Sleep (I remind you I never played or watched KH Days until recently), I found quite interesting to have Xehanort's theme slightly looking like Strange Whispers (Ansem Sod 's theme plays in the beginning of Xehanort's theme, it's quite noticeable).
Now, Kh days features Xemnas's theme. At first, I find it really weird for him not to have something similar with Xehanort's or Ansem's theme...But...
What happened to Xion here? How lucky, it's the PERFECT timing !
Aaaah, la musique pour la tristesse de Xion, it has Kaïri's theme and Dearly Beloved playing in it...
This thread is already long, and I should finish here. Take your time to think and hear about all this stuff and please tell me what you think of it.
Thank you so much for having read so far and sorry for the mistakes I might have made (even though I read the post like 30 times...) , you quite deserve a sea-salt ice-cream for that effort!
By the way, on another note, and if you have the heart to answer this after all this reading : there is an entry from Xion which left me puzzled:
The last sentence is quite "violent" (not sure if it's the right term but you get the feeling). It's just a short sentence, subject-verb, and I don't know about you, but I have the feeling it's quite important. If she is made of memories, wouldn't she dream of Kaïri's or Sora's dreams? is it hers or someone else's? The last part of this entry is so weird to my mind...what do you think about it?
Edit : Is it just me or the videos don't work? I can't figure out why it's doing that....
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