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It really is one of those words that is extremely subjective. Depending on the context, kokoro can mean heaps of things, including 'mind'. Don't hear people saying Nobodies have no minds, though.

For the record, I didn't know it was different in Japanese and always used to use 'kokoro' for all sense of the word 'heart', and Japanese people never used to know what I was talking about. I take this to mean when they hear 'kokoro', they don't get any 'cardiac' images at all, becase they couldn't make the connection between what I meant (shinzou) and what I was saying (kokoro). (This was more than one person, too, old and young... because I am retarded. Thank god for electronic dictionaries)
 

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I'm guessing in the context it's used in KH is to mean "emotions, heart, feelings", considering that's what they refer to in the game when speaking to each other. I doubt Roxas and Axel's conversation was about minds o.o.

And thanks for the example. It just kind of strengthen what I meant about Nomura not fooling with minds, and saying the correct Japanese character for what "heart" KH centers on.
 

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I'm guessing in the context it's used in KH is to mean "emotions, heart, feelings", considering that's what they refer to in the game when speaking to each other. I doubt Roxas and Axel's conversation was about minds o.o.

I know, I know. In KH, the whole idea of 'kokoro' evolves into it's own little thing. I just meant, it's a really tricky word to translate as it is.

And thanks for the example. It just kind of strengthen what I meant about Nomura not fooling with minds, and saying the correct Japanese character for what "heart" KH centers on.

S'what I was trying to do ^__^ I don't think the influence of the English language can be dismissed so easily, since the game is half Disney and was going to be translated from the get-go for one, but when it comes to hearts, there is no proof that nobodies haven't got physical beating hearts in their chests.

I was so impressed that you knew the difference between 心 and 心臓!! Have you studied Japanese before?
 

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I know, I know. In KH, the whole idea of 'kokoro' evolves into it's own little thing. I just meant, it's a really tricky word to translate as it is.

Oh, okay.

S'what I was trying to do ^__^ I don't think the influence of the English language can be dismissed so easily, since the game is half Disney and was going to be translated from the get-go for one, but when it comes to hearts, there is no proof that nobodies haven't got physical beating hearts in their chests.

I was so impressed that you knew the difference between 心 and 心臓!! Have you studied Japanese before?

Oh! xD Guess it was the time of the night that made me slow o.o. And yes, and I think them having a beating heart makes more sense, in a way. To me ^^;. As for the Japanese, I wish xP. The whole thing came when a translator, like yourself, mentioned the different characters on the word Heart in Japanese, so I just searched it on my own, because it was interesting, as this might give more credibility to them having the organ heart, so to speak.

Otherwise, I don't know anything Dx.
 
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