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[XIII Heartless]

I see what you did there.

 

[snow_flake40]

You're assuming that their Heartless had already been destroyed. All we know is the time the Nobodies were struck down; the Heartless could have been killed at any time.

Didn't Nomura say before that for the Somebody to return, both the Heartless and the Nobody had to be destroyed in that order? If the Organization members are back, then their Heartless must have been destroyed already.

Of course, this little tidbit could be easily retconned or simply forgotten...

 

[Sign]

Didn't Nomura say before that for the Somebody to return, both the Heartless and the Nobody had to be destroyed in that order? If the Organization members are back, then their Heartless must have been destroyed already.

Of course, this little tidbit could be easily retconned or simply forgotten...

He did say that, and in that same response later went on to say that it's also possible the other way around, so order really doesn't matter.

 

[Memory Master]

He did say that, and in that same response later went on to say that it's also possible the other way around, so order really doesn't matter.

Actually what he said was that the heartless had to be destroyed before the nobody for it to be a guarantee that the whole being would be restored. If the nobody was destroyed before the heartless then there was still a chance for them to become whole but there is also a chance that they will not become whole, as the body would eventually fade into nothingess without a heart to return to fairly soon.

 

[Oracle Spockanort]

Actually what he said was that the heartless had to be destroyed before the nobody for it to be a guarantee that the whole being would be restored. If the nobody was destroyed before the heartless then there was still a chance for them to become whole but there is also a chance that they will not become whole, as the body would eventually fade into nothingess without a heart to return to fairly soon.

And since Nobodies didn't really start getting destroyed until Sora woke up in KH2, and with how fast SDG, Mickey, Riku, and AtW dealt with the fake Kingdom Hearts, it is highly likely they did get their Heart back. At least that is how I imagine it.

 

[Sephiroth0812]

Actually what he said was that the heartless had to be destroyed before the nobody for it to be a guarantee that the whole being would be restored. If the nobody was destroyed before the heartless then there was still a chance for them to become whole but there is also a chance that they will not become whole, as the body would eventually fade into nothingess without a heart to return to fairly soon.

Here's the tidbit in question again, although Nomura speaks of the body being swallowed by darkness, not nothingness when the nobody is destroyed first. The original person being reformed once the heart is freed then still remains though.
The most easiest case is of course if a nobody hasn't even been born...just destroy the heartless with a keyblade and the person can come back.

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When the Heartless are defeated, what becomes of the stolen hearts? Also, when members of Organization XIII and other Nobodies are defeated, do they return to their original form?

When Heartless are defeated, essentially the owner's hearts are rejoined with their once extinguished body, whichever world it may be on. As for the whereabouts of hearts in KHII that turn up, this time they remarkably went to the Organization (there is a foot note here that says "In Kingdom Hearts II after Heartless were defeated, the many hearts were absorbed by the Kingdom Hearts of "people's hearts"). However, in the rare case that the body changed into a Nobody, when there is no container for the heart it resorts to a state of suspension.
In the case of a Nobody being defeated, it's a little more complicated. If the above mentioned hearts are liberated, they return to their original form. However, if the heart is still stolen by the Heartless, the Nobody's body is swallowed by darkness. If somewhere in the world their hearts are taken back, perhaps they might be able to return to their original human form.

 

[Chaser]

We really should be getting a site update soon. Even with all the news yesterday, I felt so unfulfilled ;~;

I knew it *dramatic faint*

 

[Memory Master]

Here's the tidbit in question again, although Nomura speaks of the body being swallowed by darkness, not nothingness when the nobody is destroyed first. The original person being reformed once the heart is freed then still remains though.
The most easiest case is of course if a nobody hasn't even been born...just destroy the heartless with a keyblade and the person can come back.

Spoiler Show

When the Heartless are defeated, what becomes of the stolen hearts? Also, when members of Organization XIII and other Nobodies are defeated, do they return to their original form?

When Heartless are defeated, essentially the owner's hearts are rejoined with their once extinguished body, whichever world it may be on. As for the whereabouts of hearts in KHII that turn up, this time they remarkably went to the Organization (there is a foot note here that says "In Kingdom Hearts II after Heartless were defeated, the many hearts were absorbed by the Kingdom Hearts of "people's hearts"). However, in the rare case that the body changed into a Nobody, when there is no container for the heart it resorts to a state of suspension.
In the case of a Nobody being defeated, it's a little more complicated. If the above mentioned hearts are liberated, they return to their original form. However, if the heart is still stolen by the Heartless, the Nobody's body is swallowed by darkness. If somewhere in the world their hearts are taken back, perhaps they might be able to return to their original human form.

Yes but remember Nomura said in the case of the nobody being destroyed before the heartless, he says they might return to their original human form. Meaning when the nobody is destroyed before the heartless there is a chance they will not become whole, but when the heartless is destroyed before the nobody it's guaranteed they will become whole once more.

So any nobody or organization member who was taken out before their heartless has no guarantee they will become whole, it's left to chance with them. Where as the ones who heartless were destroyed before them will for sure return.

So the question is, did Sora take out all of the oragnization members' heartless' before he destroyed each member, or were their some who were destroyed before their heartless was? Or perhaps some of them still have their heartless running around somewhere.