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honestly at this point, these arguments become kind of useless and i never see the point but that's what it all amounts to imo, confliction of world-views. itt we need to be exposed to more worldviews to gain a broader perspective and then talk. that's obviously not a sure fire method but it's a one that will either open up your mind or shut it down further to the point you're closed off by walls of your own creation
essentially both sides look the same to me except for the fundamental notions of belief and disbelief and everything in between
i don't take the comic seriously but what it repersents as what i see in debates and/or arguments? to a degree
but again, honestly everything's just starting to blur together for me