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My worry is with the director. The guy did DareDevil and completely ruined it. I think they also got a bad choice of actor. Cage is not Johnny Blaze. Hopefully it will honor the comic book it's based off. Ghost Rider has alot of potential.
 

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My worry is with the director. The guy did DareDevil and completely ruined it. I think they also got a bad choice of actor. Cage is not Johnny Blaze. Hopefully it will honor the comic book it's based off. Ghost Rider has alot of potential.

I thought DD was a good movie and i can tell this movie is going to bomb the box office. But thats my opinion.
 

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You liking DareDevil says something about your taste in film also. Films are more than just pretty suits and flashy graphics. There needs to be a deep and good story. MSJ, as a director, it's just so bad there aren't words for it.

You can't base a film off a trailer, I don't see it being that great at the box office, only way it may even do slightly good is because it will be attached to a new Spider-Man 3 trailer.

The director has proven he's terrible at character pieces, so I really don't see this film to be as gripping as it could.
 

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You liking DareDevil says something about your taste in film also. Films are more than just pretty suits and flashy graphics. There needs to be a deep and good story. MSJ, as a director, it's just so bad there aren't words for it.

You can't base a film off a trailer, I don't see it being that great at the box office, only way it may even do slightly good is because it will be attached to a new Spider-Man 3 trailer.

The director has proven he's terrible at character pieces, so I really don't see this film to be as gripping as it could.

I don't care what you say I'm a huge Marvel fan so i think the movies they make are damn good and i don't care what think about marvel movies or what the director makes them.
 

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You can't type worth shit kiddo. Marvel isn't making the films, they're just backing them. The films are in the director's and writer's hand. And this Director has proven he cannot make a movie with substance.

Everything is pretty much face value, and the character's just don't seem to have any personal arcs. It's more about getting from Point A to Point B. Look at DareDevil and Electra's relationship, that was the most rushed piece of love I've ever seen.

A better pacing would have been to not involve Electra so early, and not make her so important, he didn't save anything, which is what ruined the film. There was never a sense of danger, and DareDevil came off as some ignorant jackass.

If DD is any indication, Ghost Rider is going to suck and it won't honor the comics. You say you're a Marvel fan, if that was true then you would see the faults in DareDevil and why Ghost Rider has very little to go on in this director's hands.

Now GR could end up being good, maybe MSJ learned his lesson from DD, but I doubt it. That'd be like God admitting humans were a mistake. It'll never happen.
 

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You can't type worth shit kiddo. Marvel isn't making the films, they're just backing them. The films are in the director's and writer's hand. And this Director has proven he cannot make a movie with substance.

Everything is pretty much face value, and the character's just don't seem to have any personal arcs. It's more about getting from Point A to Point B. Look at DareDevil and Electra's relationship, that was the most rushed piece of love I've ever seen.

A better pacing would have been to not involve Electra so early, and not make her so important, he didn't save anything, which is what ruined the film. There was never a sense of danger, and DareDevil came off as some ignorant jackass.

If DD is any indication, Ghost Rider is going to suck and it won't honor the comics. You say you're a Marvel fan, if that was true then you would see the faults in DareDevil and why Ghost Rider has very little to go on in this director's hands.

Now GR could end up being good, maybe MSJ learned his lesson from DD, but I doubt it. That'd be like God admitting humans were a mistake. It'll never happen.


you just don't get it do you your so up tight about movies i don't care if other people don't like it it matters if i like it it matters to me I think GR will rule i don't care about the parts they rushed or crap I can tell your one of those people that don't like very many movies and rather instead watch porno you f*** perv.
 

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meh, i thought daredevil was ok, it could've been better. ghost rider does look cool tho. i also agree with i-d, it has the potential to be something great, and i hope it does. ill probably see it anyways because im a big movie fan.
 

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I never watched DD because it looked like shit. Ghost Rider definately looks good, but I agree with I-D, it should have a good story. He's right about Cage, he really doesn't fit the role of Johnny Blaze. It'll really be worth it to see that new Spider-Man 3 trailer. I just hope it doesn't completely suck.
 

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At least porn has a point, to get yourself off and enjoy your time alone. I'd rather watch something that isn't trying to amount to anything, then watch a movie based off a comic that I love be ruined by a dumbass director. The difference kiddo; I'm actually smart when it comes to films. I love film, it's a great art. I make small films myself.

But I hold it in a much higher regard than you obviously. A movie has to do more than look pretty to hold my attention. Especially something with such a rich history as a comic book. There has to be story, you may not respect that, but most people do respect a film's story rather than how it looks.

The old Star Wars films are a true testament to that. Before they were edited repeatedly.
 

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My worry is with the director. The guy did DareDevil and completely ruined it. I think they also got a bad choice of actor. Cage is not Johnny Blaze. Hopefully it will honor the comic book it's based off. Ghost Rider has alot of potential.

Nicholas Cage is one of the worst actors I've ever seen.
 

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Nicholas Cage is one of the worst actors I've ever seen.
WTF are you talking about? Nic Cage is a great actor. Go watch Lord of War or Weather Man. Awesome movies.

The only good thing about DareDevil was Kevin Smith's cameo. Ben Affleck is really not a good actor and even he admits.


I honestly don't see Ghost Rider doing all that well. Nic Cage is awesome and I know he wants the movie to do well (He's a comic fan and changed his last name after Luke Cage). But the director blows. And so does Ghost Rider's concept, IMO. Marvel thinks their super-heroes kick ass, but they need to go and re-think what being a hero is.
 

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You start with this
What do you think.
And then go on like this:
I don't care what think about marvel movies or what the director makes them...
i don't care about the parts they rushed or crap...

What do you care about? Forums are for other people's opinions. If you don't want to hear other peoples then you're in the wrong place, especially when you ask for them, lol.

Anyway, I haven't seen any trailer, but I have screenshots. It doesn't look anything special, but I've hardly seen anything about it.
 

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I hope the movie is awsome, cause i really enjoyed the actuall comic books and such. and i love Cage, he like my favorite actor. i hope he does a good job. and yes DD sucked. so did Electra. horrible.
 

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Personally, as a comic book fan, I don't think it'll be all that great. I love Nicholas Cage, but he's not Johnny Blaze. My friends and I have been saying that since he was announced as being attached to the role. I don't know who I would've cast as Johnny Blaze, but it wouldn't have been Nichloas Cage.

I'll give them credit though, at least they made Ghost Rider and his bike look damn good. I agree that movies are more than just flashy graphics, but I'm happy they didn't mess up his costume or anything.

As far as whether it's going to be a good movie or not, I'll reserve judgement until I see it next month. I'm hoping that it stays true to the comic and WILL actually be a good movie. HOPING. But, from the trailers, it looks like it's just trying to appeal to the mass audience and source material be damned! So I'll wait until I see it to pass my judgement on it.
 

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After seeing the trailer, I withdraw anything I've said to ever discredit this movie. It looks kickass. I don't know the comics so I can't judge it based on the source material, or comment on Cage's suitability to the role, but it does look like a good film (Of course, thats what trailer are meant to do though =/)
 

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This movie was kickin my ass,its like the movie new what i liked and made Ghost Rider,it was on my favorite movie of the year list,you cant say nothin bout Ghost Rider.:thumbsup: :thumbsup: Four Thumbsup and six when you count my thumbs.
 
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The movie looks terrible. I truly haven't seen special effects that bad since King Kong (original), and even Bridge to Terabithia might surpass Ghost Rider...
 

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The effects aren't that great. I saw it, and I was right. My opinions always hold true. Ghost Rider was a major let down, MSJ proves once again that he cannot direct a hero flick worth shit. The man is just such a terrible director, someone should really let him know how bad he is.

Plus, about the Caretaker, he was alright, but then, out of nowhere they give you this MAJOR "wha? huh?" part in relation and it just didn't make sense. Then there's Blackheart, a demon who can bend and warp reality and he's getting HENCHMEN, WTF? This guy was dangerous and badass in the comics, and what's with all the demons in black clothing, they had a chance for some major epic moments and didn't even utilize some creepy demonic forms for Blackheart and Memphisto.

Then there's the origin, which is really half-half. It doesn't stay true to the source, which has Johnny call on the devil himself, then tricked and cursed for doing what he did. In this origin Blaze just looks like an idiot, why even change that? It doesn't make sense, and the origin was such a critical point to setting up the story.

Lastly, Eva as Roxanne, worst casting decision ever. Cage does fairly well as Blaze, he has this way about him that allows him to balance out ALOT of the bad acting, but again, Roxanne was just such a terrible casting mistake. Her character was bland and her lines were uttered so dryly. Is that what MSJ considers acting? Because he's WAAAAAAAY off.

In my final decision, Cage was a good choice, but there were certainly better choices for someone to play Blaze. Anyhow, bring on Spider-Man 3. And never, NEVER allow MSJ to touch a Marvel film for the rest of his life, or I'll kill him.

And about Kevin Smith in DD, he only made the film worse, the stupid ****ing bastard. I hope he gets stabbed and dies.
 
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