Birth by Sleep: A massive piece of Fridge Brilliance

[The Dead Skin]

Split into a few spoiler boxes due to being too big. I found this on TVTropes. ^^

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The χ-Blade. χ is the first letter of the Greek spelling of Christ, and the Keychain resembles the symbol of the Keys to the Kingdom of Heaven—which are also represented by the Kingdom Key (silver-shafted key) and Kingdom Key-D (gold-shafted key) that open Kingdom Hearts. Basically, all the meaningless symbolism—and several things which didn't even look like it—have been transformed into half-obvious references to Catholicism.

It gets even better when you remember that Nomura was the creative producer of The World Ends with You, which also took a lot of inspiration from Catholic theology.

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You know how every main game has a fight with the reflection of the character at the Awakening taking form of the enemy introduced in said game?

Birth by Sleep notably doesn't do this until you learn that it DOES, only at the end of the game instead of the beginning. Vanitas is fought at Ventus's Awakening and is his literal reflection, making him the first Unversed.

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Doesn't what Pete get banished for seem rather petty? Just trying to steal some prize? Look carefully at his stance, at what he was doing when he was trying to steal the prize.

He was about to assault a city official. Not just any official, but the QUEEN. He was going to attack Minnie just to get the Million Dreams Prize. Not only does it make more sense and fit more with what was said in past games, but it also fits his petty, selfish character.

And now for the greatest piece of Fridge Brilliance:

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The Very Definitely Final Dungeon of the first game, End of the World, had some parts of Snow White's, Cinderella's and Sleeping Beauty's worlds, that by now we know as Dwarf Woodlands, Castle of Dreams and Enchanted Dominion respectively.

These three worlds are all next to each other, and next to Mirage Arena, where the teleport that links the save point with the main room works pretty much like the so-called "prison of the worlds" in End of the World.

This may lead us to think that Mirage Arena, Dwarf Woodlands, Castle of Dreams and Enchanted Dominion actually are End of the World as it was in the beginning, since it's pretty much a chaotic mash-up of them.

Now stop for a moment to think about one of the closest worlds to this mash-up:

The fact that Radiant Garden was next to the then-future End of the World creates a striking parallel with the fact that Hollow Bastion was also next to it in the first game, making the left half of the BbS world map the past of the right half of the Kingdom Hearts world map...

while the other world next to the then-future End of the World, Land of Departure, is the world whose remains were used to create Castle Oblivion - the place Sora went to right after his visit to End of the World, thus happening between the first KH and Kingdom Hearts: Chain of Memories.

WOW.

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[Lanydx reborn]

Whoa I had a feeling on something like this, but whoa.

 

[ChaoticHeart]

kh cannot draw inspiration from catholocism, there are no whoores being stoned, no whips and no paedophelia

 

[Sign]

Oh no, TvTropes! D:

Must...stay...away...

 

[The Dead Skin]

kh cannot draw inspiration from catholocism, there are no whoores being stoned, no whips and no paedophelia

Now that's offensive.

I was just listing some meaningful-in-hindsight moments.

 

[Reika]

I remember reading that first one from TV Tropes. But all of them are really interesting. ^_^
Gotta love TV Tropes.

kh cannot draw inspiration from catholocism, there are no whoores being stoned, no whips and no paedophelia

I agree with The Dead Skin, that's really offensive, not to mention uncalled for. :/

 

[gelandporn]

there are no whoores being stoned,

no whips

no paedophelia

 

[The Dead Skin]

Now that was epic. XD

But wait, Selphie uses a jump rope.

 

[Zulkir]

Mwhaha my Xehanort Pedosmile strip has spread across the threads like wildfire.

 

[MomentoMori]

Split into a few spoiler boxes due to being too big. I found this on TVTropes. ^^

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The χ-Blade. χ is the first letter of the Greek spelling of Christ, and the Keychain resembles the symbol of the Keys to the Kingdom of Heaven—which are also represented by the Kingdom Key (silver-shafted key) and Kingdom Key-D (gold-shafted key) that open Kingdom Hearts. Basically, all the meaningless symbolism—and several things which didn't even look like it—have been transformed into half-obvious references to Catholicism.

It gets even better when you remember that Nomura was the creative producer of The World Ends with You, which also took a lot of inspiration from Catholic theology.

Spoiler Show

You know how every main game has a fight with the reflection of the character at the Awakening taking form of the enemy introduced in said game?

Birth by Sleep notably doesn't do this until you learn that it DOES, only at the end of the game instead of the beginning. Vanitas is fought at Ventus's Awakening and is his literal reflection, making him the first Unversed.

Spoiler Show

Doesn't what Pete get banished for seem rather petty? Just trying to steal some prize? Look carefully at his stance, at what he was doing when he was trying to steal the prize.

He was about to assault a city official. Not just any official, but the QUEEN. He was going to attack Minnie just to get the Million Dreams Prize. Not only does it make more sense and fit more with what was said in past games, but it also fits his petty, selfish character.

And now for the greatest piece of Fridge Brilliance:

Spoiler Show

The Very Definitely Final Dungeon of the first game, End of the World, had some parts of Snow White's, Cinderella's and Sleeping Beauty's worlds, that by now we know as Dwarf Woodlands, Castle of Dreams and Enchanted Dominion respectively.

These three worlds are all next to each other, and next to Mirage Arena, where the teleport that links the save point with the main room works pretty much like the so-called "prison of the worlds" in End of the World.

This may lead us to think that Mirage Arena, Dwarf Woodlands, Castle of Dreams and Enchanted Dominion actually are End of the World as it was in the beginning, since it's pretty much a chaotic mash-up of them.

Now stop for a moment to think about one of the closest worlds to this mash-up:

The fact that Radiant Garden was next to the then-future End of the World creates a striking parallel with the fact that Hollow Bastion was also next to it in the first game, making the left half of the BbS world map the past of the right half of the Kingdom Hearts world map...

while the other world next to the then-future End of the World, Land of Departure, is the world whose remains were used to create Castle Oblivion - the place Sora went to right after his visit to End of the World, thus happening between the first KH and Kingdom Hearts: Chain of Memories.

WOW.

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Wow.

Just....wow.

That's awesome.

 

[skyfoxx]

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Wow... that... was absolutely brilliant! 0_0

 

[Allister Rose]

i don't agree too much on the end of the world because that was more fan interpretation. i dont see any of those worlds in there

 

[Sign]

i don't agree too much on the end of the world because that was more fan interpretation. i dont see any of those worlds in there

Really? I saw it on my last playthrough of KH1. It was pretty clear.

Mwhaha my Xehanort Pedosmile strip has spread across the threads like wildfire.

It's spread through various other forums as well. Except they don't seem to notice it's meant to show off the pedosmile ^^

 

[Allister Rose]

Really? I saw it on my last playthrough of KH1. It was pretty clear.

again interpretation, it didn't look like anything in BBS from previous games....though the style is similar i didn't see anything specific that i could absolutely tell it's from these worlds.

 

[Vice]

Your part 4 dosnt make much sense. I went to see the playtrough of EOTW and The little forest is simply the representation of 100 acer wood not Dwarf
Woodlads. I dont see anything resembling Castle of Dreams of Enchanted Dominion

 

[Allister Rose]

and even that wouldn't make sense because 100 acre woods is fine. end of the world is the remains of the worlds mashed up into one

 

[Memory Master]

Split into a few spoiler boxes due to being too big. I found this on TVTropes. ^^

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The χ-Blade. χ is the first letter of the Greek spelling of Christ, and the Keychain resembles the symbol of the Keys to the Kingdom of Heaven—which are also represented by the Kingdom Key (silver-shafted key) and Kingdom Key-D (gold-shafted key) that open Kingdom Hearts. Basically, all the meaningless symbolism—and several things which didn't even look like it—have been transformed into half-obvious references to Catholicism.

It gets even better when you remember that Nomura was the creative producer of The World Ends with You, which also took a lot of inspiration from Catholic theology.

Spoiler Show

You know how every main game has a fight with the reflection of the character at the Awakening taking form of the enemy introduced in said game?

Birth by Sleep notably doesn't do this until you learn that it DOES, only at the end of the game instead of the beginning. Vanitas is fought at Ventus's Awakening and is his literal reflection, making him the first Unversed.

Spoiler Show

Doesn't what Pete get banished for seem rather petty? Just trying to steal some prize? Look carefully at his stance, at what he was doing when he was trying to steal the prize.

He was about to assault a city official. Not just any official, but the QUEEN. He was going to attack Minnie just to get the Million Dreams Prize. Not only does it make more sense and fit more with what was said in past games, but it also fits his petty, selfish character.

And now for the greatest piece of Fridge Brilliance:

Spoiler Show

The Very Definitely Final Dungeon of the first game, End of the World, had some parts of Snow White's, Cinderella's and Sleeping Beauty's worlds, that by now we know as Dwarf Woodlands, Castle of Dreams and Enchanted Dominion respectively.

These three worlds are all next to each other, and next to Mirage Arena, where the teleport that links the save point with the main room works pretty much like the so-called "prison of the worlds" in End of the World.

This may lead us to think that Mirage Arena, Dwarf Woodlands, Castle of Dreams and Enchanted Dominion actually are End of the World as it was in the beginning, since it's pretty much a chaotic mash-up of them.

Now stop for a moment to think about one of the closest worlds to this mash-up:

The fact that Radiant Garden was next to the then-future End of the World creates a striking parallel with the fact that Hollow Bastion was also next to it in the first game, making the left half of the BbS world map the past of the right half of the Kingdom Hearts world map...

while the other world next to the then-future End of the World, Land of Departure, is the world whose remains were used to create Castle Oblivion - the place Sora went to right after his visit to End of the World, thus happening between the first KH and Kingdom Hearts: Chain of Memories.

WOW.

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Wow, I love this. Espicialy the end of the world thing, I doubt it's truly cannon like that but I never compared the world maps of KH1 and BBS to get that result but wow that actually makes sense lol

i don't agree too much on the end of the world because that was more fan interpretation. i dont see any of those worlds in there

It was in those passages at the bottom of chernabog's volcano. You see trees on some land that looks almost exactly like Enchanted Dominion's forest. Then you see trees with Scary faces like in the forest of Dwarf Woodlands, and then you can see some thorns possibly from Enchanted Dominion around Maleficent's Castle. Also some pillars and stuff that look like part of the castle in Castle of Dreams.

 

[Raz]

Your part 4 dosnt make much sense. I went to see the playtrough of EOTW and The little forest is simply the representation of 100 acer wood not Dwarf
Woodlads. I dont see anything resembling Castle of Dreams of Enchanted Dominion

There's this creepy cave area close to the end of the game.
If you go into first person view and look at the wall you'll see the castle from Castle of Dreams, some forest scenery that clearly draws inspiration from Enchanted Dominion, and Snow White's cottage from Dwarf Woodlands.

 

[Allister Rose]

It was in those passages at the bottom of chernabog's volcano. You see trees on some land that looks almost exactly like Enchanted Dominion's forest. Then you see trees with Scary faces like in the forest of Dwarf Woodlands, and then you can see some thorns possibly from Enchanted Dominion around Maleficent's Castle. Also some pillars and stuff that look like part of the castle in Castle of Dreams.

again fan interpretation. i dont see it. i can see similarities only but nothing hinting it's that

 

[The Dead Skin]

Uh, can anyone take a picture of said wall in End of the World?