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Like I said, all the major characters will have an important purpose it's just because by the nature of KH3 none of them will be examined in depth. Having a strong role doesn't necessarily mean having a strong character. As passive as she was Kairi had a very strong role in KH1 and she was in a "coma" most of the time.
Yes, but I'm obviously arguing in favor of a strong character as well. There's no reason I can't have my cake and eat it, too. :p

Again, as I said it's not just her but involving most of the characters is tricky business. Plus, as much as it pains the fans, the writers aren't really obligated to give more priority to Kairi, especially when many of the other characters are more foreseeably important, at least from an immediate point of view. It's questionable if the writers even see a real "problem" with her character.
I think the question as to what the writers are or aren't obligated to do is beside the point. I'm just here to share my desires and hopes for the installment, just like anyone else. :p

Fair enough, Sora did spend a good chunk of his time snoozing. BUT! I raise the "about a decade of competitive fighting with Riku" card again! :p
There's never been any indication that Kairi didn't participate in the fights and races and such on DI other than the fact that we didn't fight her or race her in the short period we spent on the Islands, because she was busy with the raft, unlike the lazy boys with an attention deficit. And in any case, I raise the "Nomura can retcon anything" card! x'D

In regards to Kairi being a tutorial character imma quote something I said in another thread:
Eh, I was just throwing it out there as a possibility. As with anything else, it's just as likely as not and vice versa.

Ultimately I suppose it's a matter of different perspectives because if Kairi were to come from nowhere and join in on the fray to start handing out ass whoops I'd be right turned off. But. BUUUUT. Again, again, again, it depends on how much time had passed. I don't think KH3 could take that long in universe but hypothetically speaking, if it's only supposed to be a few weeks, or a few months at most, even with vidiya gaem logik I think that's break my suspension of disbelief.
To be honest, the notion that Kingdom Hearts hasn't sufficiently tempered your suspension of disbelief astounds me. Haha.
Really, though, it's just a matter of different perspectives like you said. As I've suggested, I think Nomura's written himself all kinds of loopholes out of this particular dilemma, and I'm certain he intends to implement all of them in order to get Lea out on the field as a full-fledged GoL. As I see it, it wouldn't come off as any less believable if he did the same for Kairi, but that's just my opinion.


The way I took it Kairi being trained was more for backup purposes, in the case something bad does happen and she has no choice but to protect herself rather than her being trained prominently to face off against Xehanort and co. I reckon for the most part, or at least the intention is to have her stay in the Mysterious Tower under Yen Sid's watch.
I mean, maybe. But then why train her at all. Everyone who would be coming after her is Xehanort or Xehanort or Xehanort, at this point. :p

I also took it that in BbS's secret ending that Kairi learned, or at least had a better grasp of how there are certain times to act and certain times to wait.
Yeah, but again, she's the only character who has to learn this. Sora doesn't wait for sh&t, Riku doesn't either. And when Riku was impatient, he destroyed a whole freaking World. But still, he doesn't learn to be passive and accept things as they come; he becomes more active in making decisions for himself and not allowing his emotions to be swayed by envy and negative feelings towards others. Kairi has really never done anything wrong aside from being incredibly unfortunate, and yet she's expected to hang back and let the rest of the world take care of things. I don't know. I think she waited with incredible patience for over a year for Sora to find her again; and when Sora was fighting Ansem SoD, she waited then, too; and she waited again when he and Riku were lost in the Realm of Darkness. I think she has that part down. But at the beginning of KH, she was the one kicking the boys' butts into gear to build that raft so they could all go rashly and stupidly sailing off into the middle of the ocean; and she was the one who excitedly and rather sweetly suggested to Sora that they take off together, JUST THE TWO OF THEM! *GIGGLE GIGGLE JUST KIDDING*; and she was the one who jumped into a swarm of Heartless (uselessly, yes, but still) just to be reunited with her friend. The girl's got drive, and while she has been used as a plot device and has been given nowhere near the attention you would expect her to be entitled to as a member of the main trio, the potential has always been there and remains there still. It's not as if there's nothing to build upon, at least not in my opinion. And they have a whole game to do it. It doesn't have to be exclusive, it shouldn't be. But to make her wait AGAIN? I guess that's where they would break MY suspension of disbelief. :p

In the grander scheme of things, yes, it is better if Kairi tried to stay out of harms way because she's a PoH. Her existence helps keep the universe in balance as a substitute for KH. She is not only Sora and Riku's light, she is quite literally (one part that forms several) the universe's light. That's partly why the GoL exist, to protect the PoHs because it's vital that nothing bad happens to them. AS a PoH it's not recommended she do things that would put her in harms way, and for good reason.
I'll just reiterate: I don't believe there is such a thing as "out of harm's way" in this case. They're dealing with an Army of Xehanorts, which we as the audience have been led to believe is basically the greatest threat to the universe, ever. It would pretty much diminish that threat if we're also asked to believe they would have anything like a difficult time breaking into Yen Sid's tower and kidnapping a character who we have established is distinctly susceptible to being taken hostage. Maleficent has already done both of those things without hassle, albeit on separate occasions.

Her AS Kairi though? That's a different matter, the thing is Kairi isn't important to the plot so much because of who she is rather than because of what she is, and what she is is really important. But there isn't much leeway in KH3 to flesh out who she is. Having Kairi take control of her own fate? Improving as a fighter so she can defend her friends? Showing the capacity to do what's right by either fighting for it or sacrifice? These are things that would take time which she simply doesn't have.
I just think giving her a weapon and a purpose of her own would probably suffice. And I really think this is still a matter of singling out Kairi's role in the story. Sora is technically only importantly because he's a Keyblade wielder with random and unpredictable connections to characters who weren't even a part of the original story. Riku's only technically important because he's a bishonen tragic hero who keeps the fangirls invested. I'm being facetious now, but the point is if they can create compelling characters out of the archetypes they have going, they can do so for anyone, even the running Damsel in Distress. And really, how much time does it take for them to give Kairi a scene where she expresses that Sora (and maybe Riku if she remembers he exists) are important to her and she knows she needs to get stronger, for them and for herself, and then DOES IT? I don't know, I just think it wouldn't be anything difficult or time-consuming.

I've really enjoyed discussing this with you by the way. Seeing as I think we're bound to run in circles, though, I don't think I have much else to say. I totally respect your opinion and I think it's a valid one. :3
 

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I can see Kairi being a party member, but that is about it. And the Nomura made it sound in the interview, we will probably have the KH1/2 party system. We might get to control somebody besides Sora in the beginning, like in KH2, but I just don't think we will deviate from controlling Sora for 90-95% of the game.
 

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Perhaps there could be parts of the game we play as her, I can see it happening.
 

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I've really enjoyed discussing this with you by the way. Seeing as I think we're bound to run in circles, though, I don't think I have much else to say. I totally respect your opinion and I think it's a valid one. :3

Me too! While I disagree with your points it was nice getting your perspective on the matter. We'll just have to agree to disagree~
 

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I can see Kairi being a party member, but that is about it. And the Nomura made it sound in the interview, we will probably have the KH1/2 party system. We might get to control somebody besides Sora in the beginning, like in KH2, but I just don't think we will deviate from controlling Sora for 90-95% of the game.

That would be nice to control someone beside Sora.
 

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Little Eleanor and the Ultimate Video Game Character



There was once a girl named Eleanor

Who was playing a video game:

Kingdom Hearts 2

By Square Enix

When she saw a cutscene of her favorite character Kairi

Wielding a Keyblade.

Will the next game have her a

PLAYER CHARACTER?

“Oh,” said Eleanor,

“Will Kairi be playable in

The next game please?”

The next game introduced

Three new player characters,

But not Kairi.

Then Eleanor said,

“Kairi MUST be playable in the next game?”

Then came Dream Drop Distance.

This game featured a world based off of

Her favorite Disney movie, The Hunchback of Notre Dame.

The cathedral acoustics didn’t sound like in the movie.

And Eleanor said,

“This cathedral sounds like a

Frikken’ box,

Now I WANT KAIRI PLAYABLE—

SHE MUST BE PLAYABLE!”

Then Kingdom Hearts 3 came out.

Kairi was not playable in that game either.

Instead she was slain by the villain.”

Then Eleanor began to cry and wrote,

“If Kairi’s not playable I’ll die.”

And they replied, “You won’t die.

No gamer ever died yet from their favorite character not being playable.”

And Eleanor felt so bad

That when she got done she went to bed,

And she couldn’t eat,

And she couldn’t sleep,

And her heart was broken,

And she DID die—

All because of a character

Who was never playable.



(This story is based off of Shel Silverstein’s “Little Abigail and the Beautiful Pony”)
 

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Little Eleanor and the Ultimate Video Game Character



There was once a girl named Eleanor

Who was playing a video game:

Kingdom Hearts 2

By Square Enix

When she saw a cutscene of her favorite character Kairi

Wielding a Keyblade.

Will the next game have her a

PLAYER CHARACTER?

“Oh,” said Eleanor,

“Will Kairi be playable in

The next game please?”

The next game introduced

Three new player characters,

But not Kairi.

Then Eleanor said,

“Kairi MUST be playable in the next game?”

Then came Dream Drop Distance.

This game featured a world based off of

Her favorite Disney movie, The Hunchback of Notre Dame.

The cathedral acoustics didn’t sound like in the movie.

And Eleanor said,

“This cathedral sounds like a

Frikken’ box,

Now I WANT KAIRI PLAYABLE—

SHE MUST BE PLAYABLE!”

Then Kingdom Hearts 3 came out.

Kairi was not playable in that game either.

Instead she was slain by the villain.”

Then Eleanor began to cry and wrote,

“If Kairi’s not playable I’ll die.”

And they replied, “You won’t die.

No gamer ever died yet from their favorite character not being playable.”

And Eleanor felt so bad

That when she got done she went to bed,

And she couldn’t eat,

And she couldn’t sleep,

And her heart was broken,

And she DID die—

All because of a character

Who was never playable.



(This story is based off of Shel Silverstein’s “Little Abigail and the Beautiful Pony”)
Ok I was confused on this thread when I first saw it...then I saw that it hasn't been updated until now...6 years later. Needless to say, we're all disappointed that Kairi wasn't playable nor will she ever. I'm in the minority that's given up on her and only manga & fanfiction'll redeem her.

Now I wait for this thread to be closed.
 
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