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Alright, so I think I remember someone mentioned this in another part of the forums, and I've been thinking about it lately. I'm making this thread just to make sure I have everything straight and I'm not misunderstanding anything.
So we learned toward the end of Chi that the Dark Chirithy actually belonged to the Player. The Player has a Spirit Chirithy, but the darkness that had been cultivated in the Player's heart gave birth to a Nightmare Chirithy. The MoM says in Back Cover that a Spirit will turn dark and become a Nightmare, but here we see that the Nightmare is in fact a whole separate being that comes from the Player's own darkness.
Now, there has always been a bunch of theories and conversations surrounding the ABCN, but it seems to me that we can arrive at a pretty definitive answer. When Riku dove into Sora's dream, the Sleeping Worlds were split in two, or rather an entire other version of the world was created, with Riku's version nested inside Sora's version. Riku takes on the role of a Dream Eater - specifically, a Spirit that protects Sora. However, Xehanort and the New Org. put Sora to sleep immediately after touching down in TWTNW in the real world. As he sleeps, his heart starts becoming consumed by the darkness as per the plan, and Riku, still in Sora's dream, tries to help him. It is at that moment that the ABCN appears.
Given what we learned from Chi, would it be safe to say that the ABCN is simply a "Nightmare Riku" born from Sora's darkness, just as the "Nightmare Chirithy" was born from the Player's darkness? You can even see the tendrils of darkness come out of Sora and form the ABCN! If this is the case, I gotta say that's pretty cool. Also, my brother pointed out that, once again, Riku's enemy is himself, or rather his dark self.
And one more thing: The MoM nor the Foretellers ever use the words "Dream Eater", only Spirit and Nightmare. Does this mean that Spirits and Nightmares are the creatures themselves, and the phrase Dream Eater is just a descriptor for the role that they carry out? When DDD first introduces Dream Eaters, they are described as being creatures in the Sleeping Worlds that exist naturally, like Pureblood Heartless exist in the RoD. But then Back Cover shows that Spirits were originally created by the MoM, existing in the real world. So it seems like Spirits and Nightmares were made to be capable, but not restricted to, existing in the Sleeping Worlds. Of course, Yen Sid, even with all his exposition-y wisdom, wouldn't know about the Pre-Keyblade War events that we see in Back Cover. Anyway, it's looking like the rest of Unchained Chi and even KH3 will continue to expand on all of this Dream Eater stuff.
And hoooooly crap I just wrote a lot. Meanwhile, I have an essay sitting on my desktop that I've barely started working on. Anyhoodle, just wanted to write this to get it out there and start some discussion/clarification/correction. Hopefully most of this makes sense and I haven't jumbled the lore too much.
So we learned toward the end of Chi that the Dark Chirithy actually belonged to the Player. The Player has a Spirit Chirithy, but the darkness that had been cultivated in the Player's heart gave birth to a Nightmare Chirithy. The MoM says in Back Cover that a Spirit will turn dark and become a Nightmare, but here we see that the Nightmare is in fact a whole separate being that comes from the Player's own darkness.
Now, there has always been a bunch of theories and conversations surrounding the ABCN, but it seems to me that we can arrive at a pretty definitive answer. When Riku dove into Sora's dream, the Sleeping Worlds were split in two, or rather an entire other version of the world was created, with Riku's version nested inside Sora's version. Riku takes on the role of a Dream Eater - specifically, a Spirit that protects Sora. However, Xehanort and the New Org. put Sora to sleep immediately after touching down in TWTNW in the real world. As he sleeps, his heart starts becoming consumed by the darkness as per the plan, and Riku, still in Sora's dream, tries to help him. It is at that moment that the ABCN appears.
Given what we learned from Chi, would it be safe to say that the ABCN is simply a "Nightmare Riku" born from Sora's darkness, just as the "Nightmare Chirithy" was born from the Player's darkness? You can even see the tendrils of darkness come out of Sora and form the ABCN! If this is the case, I gotta say that's pretty cool. Also, my brother pointed out that, once again, Riku's enemy is himself, or rather his dark self.
And one more thing: The MoM nor the Foretellers ever use the words "Dream Eater", only Spirit and Nightmare. Does this mean that Spirits and Nightmares are the creatures themselves, and the phrase Dream Eater is just a descriptor for the role that they carry out? When DDD first introduces Dream Eaters, they are described as being creatures in the Sleeping Worlds that exist naturally, like Pureblood Heartless exist in the RoD. But then Back Cover shows that Spirits were originally created by the MoM, existing in the real world. So it seems like Spirits and Nightmares were made to be capable, but not restricted to, existing in the Sleeping Worlds. Of course, Yen Sid, even with all his exposition-y wisdom, wouldn't know about the Pre-Keyblade War events that we see in Back Cover. Anyway, it's looking like the rest of Unchained Chi and even KH3 will continue to expand on all of this Dream Eater stuff.
And hoooooly crap I just wrote a lot. Meanwhile, I have an essay sitting on my desktop that I've barely started working on. Anyhoodle, just wanted to write this to get it out there and start some discussion/clarification/correction. Hopefully most of this makes sense and I haven't jumbled the lore too much.