Why do people keep saying Saix is second in command?
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They are not necessarily ranked by the number given by when they join. Ex/ Xigbar is 2nd, but he is to retrieve new members or something along those lines. Marluxia was in charge of CO, but there could be other reasons for that. *shrugs* Not sure if Nomura said anything about it, but that's the way they seem to work. Not to mention Saix seems to show some loyalty to Xemnas.
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Exactly. In Chain of Memories Vexen is arguing with some other member, forgot who, and he joined before Vexen and yet Vexen was being ordered around by him. Joining number usually means little.
^ Think it was Marluxia.
But that was sort of what I was getting at ^^
But that was sort of what I was getting at ^^
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Saïx is considered to be second in command because it is shown through KH2 that he is the most trusted one of Xemnas' underliings. The most loyal and the most willing one to follow directions.
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I'm pretty sure that the only thing near to being official is the evidence within the games of Saïx being more important than even Xigbar.
yeh, that's probably it. . .
by the way,, he & Xemnas are the only members who have yellow eyes, right.??
Xemnas, Saix, and Xigbar all appear to have yellow eyes.
Have to say that I agree with LiLo there.
Despite Xigbar's rank being number II, Saix was shown to be far more important than him, which is most likely where the idea of him being second in command originated.
Have to say that I agree with LiLo there.
Despite Xigbar's rank being number II, Saix was shown to be far more important than him, which is most likely where the idea of him being second in command originated.
The official ranking system is the chairs they sit on. The higher the chair, the higher their rank, that's how it works. If I remember correctly, Saix and Xaldin's chairs are higher then everyone elses, except Xemnas of course.
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Not neccessarily. The chairs are all adjustable according to Nomura, the only reason they did not go higher than Xemnas was because they would feel bad for doing so.
This too.
As stated, the number of an Organization member does not reflect their rank but rather the order in which they joined the Organization (or possibly for the original 6, the order in which they were created).
It is the height of their chairs that reflects their ranking. Xemnas' chair is obviously the highest while Saix's and Marluxia's seem to be tied, but I will go against my love for the Graceful Assassin and say that Saix's is slightly higher, making him 2nd in command. This is based off of the following:
- in 358/2 Days, Saix is the one who gives out missions to the other members, meaning he takes direct orders from Xemnas and then hands these orders out to the rest of the Organization.
- when Castle Oblivion is found, Marluxia is sent out to oversee the research while Saix is kept close at hand. To send your second-in-command further away is unwise and often leads to downfall.
And then there's everything everyone has seen from KH2.
HOWEVER, all of this evidence could work in the opposite way to prove Saix was only 3rd until Marluxia's betrayal and eventual death. For example, I don't see giving out missions as such a prestigious job for 2nd-in-command while Marluxia gets to lounge about the place, even when he takes Roxas out to fight. And then it could also be thought that the 2nd-in-command SHOULD be the one to oversee the 2nd base of the Organization. Who else?
It all depends on how you see it.
Either way, Saix was definitely 2nd in command AT LEAST during KH2.
(he must have done Xemnas some personal favors, in my opinion wink wink nudge nudge say no more)
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Also, the chairs' height only changes in the game aspect, not the story aspect. For example, in KH2 you can run around doing nothing as long as you want before the final boss, but that won't be reflected in the storyline. You could fail at every mission as Saix, but in every cutscene he's in sitting on his chair, the height will always be higher than the others.
It is the height of their chairs that reflects their ranking. Xemnas' chair is obviously the highest while Saix's and Marluxia's seem to be tied, but I will go against my love for the Graceful Assassin and say that Saix's is slightly higher, making him 2nd in command. This is based off of the following:
- in 358/2 Days, Saix is the one who gives out missions to the other members, meaning he takes direct orders from Xemnas and then hands these orders out to the rest of the Organization.
- when Castle Oblivion is found, Marluxia is sent out to oversee the research while Saix is kept close at hand. To send your second-in-command further away is unwise and often leads to downfall.
And then there's everything everyone has seen from KH2.
HOWEVER, all of this evidence could work in the opposite way to prove Saix was only 3rd until Marluxia's betrayal and eventual death. For example, I don't see giving out missions as such a prestigious job for 2nd-in-command while Marluxia gets to lounge about the place, even when he takes Roxas out to fight. And then it could also be thought that the 2nd-in-command SHOULD be the one to oversee the 2nd base of the Organization. Who else?
It all depends on how you see it.
Either way, Saix was definitely 2nd in command AT LEAST during KH2.
(he must have done Xemnas some personal favors, in my opinion wink wink nudge nudge say no more)
EDIT:
Also, the chairs' height only changes in the game aspect, not the story aspect. For example, in KH2 you can run around doing nothing as long as you want before the final boss, but that won't be reflected in the storyline. You could fail at every mission as Saix, but in every cutscene he's in sitting on his chair, the height will always be higher than the others.
Actually, no, it's not just for Days, he said that before the game was even announced.
According to the final mix scenes, Xaldin's chair is second highest and Xigbar's chair is third.
saïx is the close to xemnas plus the fact that gives out missions under xemnas orders could mean is the 2nd in command
The chairs can move up and down. They don't show rank.
Saix seems to be the #2 because he is seen with Xemnas more than any other member and seems to have some power over the other members.
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