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If Xigbar is actually Luxu then what happened during his recompletion? Because we know that Luxu has hijacked Braig's body, so why werent they recompleted as two seperate people like Terra and Xehanort? Or perhaps, Luxu completely got rid of Braig's heart, sent it to the afterlife so Braig is actually dead, but wouldnt that defy the natural laws? I mean why would Luxu keep that body upon recompletion and not get his original one?
 

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Luxu would have chosen weak vessels he could easily claim dominance over to avoid a situation like Terranort where the two hearts were locked in an eternal struggle for dominance. We can't say for sure if Luxu kicks out all of the hearts of his body-hopping victims, but whatever happened, the original Braig is no longer a factor in the equation.

I feel like the most likely case scenario is that Braig's heart is still in there somewhere, but Luxu was just so strong, he managed to completely smother him. If Luxu had given Braig the boot, then Braig's body would have reshaped itself in Luxu's image, and we know that didn't happen since the Foretellers didn't recognize him.
 
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then Braig's body would have reshaped itself in Luxu's image,
why would that happen? even when xehanort possesed terra, his body wasnt reshaped, it was just the eye and hair color. plus, they wouldnt want that to happen because Luxu's true form is kept secret for suspense XD.
 

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why would that happen? even when xehanort possesed terra, his body wasnt reshaped, it was just the eye and hair color. plus, they wouldnt want that to happen because Luxu's true form is kept secret for suspense XD.
I think he's revering to what happened to Riku. His body transformed into "Ansem's" once his heart was kicked out.
 
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I think he's revering to what happened to Riku. His body transformed into "Ansem's" once his heart was kicked out.
riku's case is kinda weird. because first, i think Ansem deliberately did that. Second, Ansem's human form is inconsistent. In KH1 it looked like a grown up riku with dark skin. In DDD, they changed it to look more like Terra. In KH3, MX mentions that Ansem and Xemans, their form is based on Terra. So idk how reshaping was cause Ansem SOD isnt stated to be based on MX otherwise shouldnt riku look like the MX or a younger version of his yet MX says that form was based off Terra even though Terra wasnt the dominant heart. Ik its confusing but it feels like the writters cant decide on it. in KH3 riku implies that Ansem is infulenced by his appearance.
 

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riku's case is kinda weird. because first, i think Ansem deliberately did that. Second, Ansem's human form is inconsistent. In KH1 it looked like a grown up riku with dark skin. In DDD, they changed it to look more like Terra. In KH3, MX mentions that Ansem and Xemans, their form is based on Terra. So idk how reshaping was cause Ansem SOD isnt stated to be based on MX otherwise shouldnt riku look like the MX or a younger version of his yet MX says that form was based off Terra even though Terra wasnt the dominant heart. Ik its confusing but it feels like the writters cant decide on it. in KH3 riku implies that Ansem is infulenced by his appearance.
True, but the point is that the heart can reshape the body, "Ansem's" heart was an amalgam of Xehanorts and Terras'. And we know from the Replicas that the body can reshape to reflect the hearts placed within them. It's implied that this could be true for other bodies too, after all Roxas took on the shape of Ven, thanks to Ven's sleeping heart remaining in Sora's body as Sora turned into a heartless.
 
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True, but the point is that the heart can reshape the body, "Ansem's" heart was an amalgam of Xehanorts and Terras'. And we know from the Replicas that the body can reshape to reflect the hearts placed within them. It's implied that this could be true for other bodies too, after all Roxas took on the shape of Ven, thanks to Ven's sleeping heart remaining in Sora's body as Sora turned into a heartless.

but we know from the epilogue that Luxu didnt reshape braigs body as the foretellers dont recognize him. So what happened here? Because xehanort possesing terra violated some natural law which is why they came back as two people. did Luxu not violate this rule? The only way i see this happenign is if luxu completely banished braig's original heart to somewhere like Final World so that it wouldnt return eever gain
 

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but we know from the epilogue that Luxu didnt reshape braigs body as the foretellers dont recognize him. So what happened here? Because xehanort possesing terra violated some natural law which is why they came back as two people. did Luxu not violate this rule? The only way i see this happenign is if luxu completely banished braig's original heart to somewhere like Final World so that it wouldnt return eever gain
We don't know yet. It really depends on how Luxu body hops and what rules are in play for his method contrasted to Xehanorts method. Also just because a heart can reshape a body, doesn't necessarily mean it has to, we don't know the rules so right now everything is possible.
 
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We don't know yet. It really depends on how Luxu body hops and what rules are in play for his method contrasted to Xehanorts method. Also just because a heart can reshape a body, doesn't necessarily mean it has to, we don't know the rules so right now everything is possible.
its not surprising after all. nobodies werent supposed to have hearts yet now we know that they can regrow one which xemnas knew about somehow
 

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why would that happen? even when xehanort possesed terra, his body wasnt reshaped, it was just the eye and hair color. plus, they wouldnt want that to happen because Luxu's true form is kept secret for suspense XD.
Coming back late to the party, but just so I don't leave this thread hanging:

Yes, I was indeed referring to the Ansem SoD and Riku situation in KH1, and also the whole deal with Roxas.

When Ansem SoD kicked Riku's heart out, Riku's body took on Ansem's form. When Sora's heart was removed from the equation, his body used Ven's remaining heart as a blueprint and reshaped itself in his image, resulting in Roxas taking on Ven's appearance.

Like Adrian said, different methods may have different rules and so on, and just like the answers to many of your other questions as of late, there are a lot of unknowns so we can't say for a fact that there's only one possible route or outcome. But this is what we have to go on for now.
 
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When Ansem SoD kicked Riku's heart out, Riku's body took on Ansem's form. When Sora's heart was removed from the equation, his body used Ven's remaining heart as a blueprint and reshaped itself in his image, resulting in Roxas taking on Ven's appearance.

So Roxas had Ven's heart?
 

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So Roxas had Ven's heart?
Yes, he did. I'll walk you through that whole debacle:

You'll recall at the beginning of BBS when Xehanort takes Ven to Destiny Islands as his final resting place. Here, Ven's heart makes contact with Sora's, on its way to entering his newborn body. Sora's heart offers to forge a connection with Ven to fill the hole caused by Vanitas's extraction. At the end of BBS, when Ven's heart is damaged once more, he follows the connection back to Sora. From this point on, Sora is in possession of Ven's heart.

Fast forward to KH1, when Sora stabs himself in Hollow Bastion. That act frees both his own heart and Kairi's heart, but Ven's damaged and dormant heart is unable to leave and remains with Sora's body, going on to become Roxas. Sora's body uses Ven's heart as a blueprint and reshapes itself in his image, causing Roxas to take on Ven's appearance instead. If Ven's heart wasn't in Sora's body at that time, Roxas would have looked like Sora, just like how the other members of the Organization look like their Somebodies.
 
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Fast forward to KH1, when Sora stabs himself in Hollow Bastion. That act frees both his own heart and Kairi's heart, but Ven's damaged and dormant heart is unable to leave and remains with Sora's body, going on to become Roxas. Sora's body uses Ven's heart as a blueprint and reshapes itself in his image, causing Roxas to take on Ven's appearance instead. If Ven's heart wasn't in Sora's body at that time, Roxas would have looked like Sora, just like how the other members of the Organization look like their Somebodies.
it makes sense especially considering roxas couldnt go trhough caslte oblvion but if Ventus heart is sleeping how come its able to change the appearance of Sora's body? Doesnt he have to actively reshape it? Why would Sora's body on its own use Ven's heart as a blueprint? Also, isnt Vens heart within Sora's so that it can heal?
 
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